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Pat Burrell

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Here's a thought...why not trade for Pat Burrell?

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On Sportscenter last night they said the Phillies are looking to move him and would probably be willing to eat a decent amount of his contract.

Here's his line:

AVG .258 | HR 29 | RBI 95  | OBP .388 | SLG .502  

His splits:

VS. LEFT: .290 / 1.012
VS. RIGHT: .244 / .837

He has a full no trade clause but it doesn't mean its not worth looking into.

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Re: Pat Burrell
   Who would you trade and how much would the Phillies want?  They would go for a starting pitcher for sure.

by tribe204854 on Nov 11, 2006 5:02 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
I'd give up Lee...maybe Westbrook, if they eat half the contract. Unlike a lot of people I'm actually reluctant to give up Westbrook or Lee, at least for someone who strikes out a lot and has a career .258 batting avg.

Though he does put up great numbers and was 7th in the NL in walks.

by world dictator on Nov 11, 2006 5:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
If you're the Tribe, you don't give up Westbrook for Burrell.  Westbrook is an inning eater and someone who keeps the Indians competitive.  Westbrook is someone the Tribe looks to sign for an additional 3-4 years.

by SpringTrainingFun on Nov 11, 2006 6:21 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
If we go ahead and re-sign Westbrook, I wouldn't trade him either.  

I wouldn't give up four years of Lee for two years of Burrell.  

by Chiefroy on Nov 11, 2006 6:35 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
They'd probably love a groundball pitcher like Westbrook in that park, even for just a year.
Burrell would probably help us lead the league in strikeouts, but he does put up some big numbers.  Maybe they'd eat half his contract.

by Chiefroy on Nov 11, 2006 5:43 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
  I think that Westbrook is our most reliable pitcher. He doesn't lead the league in anything but when he pitches the Tribe seems to win or is in the game. Maybe we can dump Michaels back to them along with a couple guys from the minors.

by tribe204854 on Nov 11, 2006 6:36 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
This wouldn't happen. Burrell has  a no trade clause and will only play for Boston or new York (or that is whathe says right now).

by BoDiaz1974 on Nov 11, 2006 7:30 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Burrell is one of those guys I really would like to get, but he would make us a lot weaker team.  His power looks like exactly what we want, but then you factor the switch in leagues, his mediocre defense, strikeouts, etc... and he's not that great of an option.

now, if we can get him for paul byrd, i'm all ears (especially with the phils eating some of his contract), but that's not going to happen.

BillyBeast

by willthompson on Nov 11, 2006 11:18 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
I really don't think Burrell is a good fit here at all. The knee-jerk reaction is to go after someone with nice numbers but I don't think that is a good idea here. The offense was not the problem last year and it already got better with J-Barf replacing IgLuna at 2nd. Defense has also gotten better with that move. The one glaring hole is still the bullpen. Pat Burrell is not really going to help us there and moving a pitcher to get him would be doubly damaging.
Wait 'til next year... or something like that

by fwembt on Nov 11, 2006 11:42 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Would we have to give up that much if we just take on his whole contract? Its not the same as what the Yanks were able to do with Abreu, but you get the picture. Hey we actually have money to burn this year, I think its possible that they take less talent to simply dump that bad contract.

I will make note that I don't advocate going after him if it somehow restricts our pursuits of a closer and/or another starter, or in resigning Haf or CC. But if we can do those things and still take on Burrel's contract, than I'd definetly look into it.

by hans on Nov 12, 2006 1:57 AM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
I think its possible that they take less talent to simply dump that bad contract.

I think the Abreu deal makes that abundantly clear, and I think this is exactly the same situation.  I think they would give Burrell and his contract away.

by Jay on Nov 12, 2006 11:08 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Given those circumstances do you think it would be a good pick up Jay?

by world dictator on Nov 12, 2006 11:20 AM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Look, the past two years he has a .389 OBP and a .503 slugging average.  He also played in a league with weak pitching and his home field was a bandbox.  So he'd be great to have in LF, but he's not worth a king's ransom.  If the Indians could get him for nothing, I'd take him.  But the no-trade is going to dictate the course.

by Jay on Nov 12, 2006 8:46 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Burrell isn't coming to Cle because of his no trade contract.

And Shapiro has already said he undervalued defense. He is not going to pick up a defensive liability.

by ronh on Nov 12, 2006 6:05 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
From Rosenthal

Phillies left fielder Pat Burrell has informed the club that he would accept a trade only to the Yankees, Red Sox or a west-coast club, according to a source with knowledge of his thinking. The Phillies badly want to move Burrell, who has a complete no-trade clause.

by ronh on Nov 15, 2006 3:32 PM EST   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
The Phillies have no one to blame but themselves for giving Burrell the no-trade clause. Burrell hasn't been in MLB long enough to have 10-and-5 rights.  

by Ryan on Nov 15, 2006 8:07 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
And they did the same thing with Abreu before that.  Someone needs to stage a no-trade-clause intervention with Philadelphia's front office...

by Jackdaw on Nov 15, 2006 8:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
They did.  They fired the guy a year ago.

by Jay on Nov 16, 2006 11:49 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Consarn it, all my punch lines come too late.

by Jackdaw on Nov 16, 2006 7:21 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: Pat Burrell
Watch it with the rough language, buddy.

by Jay on Nov 16, 2006 7:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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