I have noticed in the first two weeks of the season that Jay has been very quick to point out when an excellent pitching performance results in a loss. It is obvious that he must be hearing arguments from many people that certain pitchers really are "winners", and that they really do have some way to control their own team's offensive production. I think Jay has posted something of this nature in just about every game thread, and I'm thinking now that he is probably just pissed off at Bob Dolgan(one of the apparently many who try to make this argument).
I addressed this topic today in my blog, looking at the differences between Kevin Millwood and Cliff Lee in the 2005 season. You can read it here:
I would really appreciate any feedback as well as any thoughts that all of you might have on the subject.