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Guthrie Out, Mujica to Buffalo

Not sure on the rules of quoting sources... so if this needs to be changed, let me know or feel free to change it.

Cleveland Plain Dealer Paul Hoynes reports that Betancourt is being activated while Guthrie is going back to AAA.

http://www.cleveland.com/weblogs/pdsports/index.ssf?/mtlogs/cleve_pdsports/archives/2006_05.html#141 491

And Akron Beacon Journal Stephanie Storm reports that Mujica is being promoted to AAA.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/baseball/minor_league/akron_aeros/14589602.htm

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Re: Guthrie Out, Mujica to Buffalo
So I would guess the bullpen pecking order looks like this:

Closer: Wickman
8th: Betancourt
7th: Davis
MR: Mota, Cabrera
LR: Carmona
Garbage: Saurbeck

Hopefully Raffy hits the ground throwing.

by Ryan on May 16, 2006 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Guthrie Out, Mujica to Buffalo
Really? You think the FO thinks that highly of Davis already?

by Joe. on May 17, 2006 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Guthrie Out, Mujica to Buffalo
He pitched the ninth last night, so he's pretty high on the trust chart.

by Ryan on May 17, 2006 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Should have gotten rid of Sauerbeck!
Hello everyone,

tyler - thanks for the info.  I knew they promoted Mujica to Buffalo yesterday, where he went 2.0 IP, giving up 2 hits, but no runs.

I hope the Indians aren't going to hold on to Sauerbeck all year if he continues to struggle just because he is a lefty.  Why hold on to a lefty who can't get lefties out?  An overpowering righty or at least a solid righty has a better chance of getting a left-handed batter out than a struggling lefty in my opinion.  If the righties in our bullpen were going well, I'm not sure they would have that much difficulty handling lefties since they all have good stuff.

If righties had such a problem getting lefties out, then why do some right-handed starters handle lefties so well.  It can be done; just because you have a left-handed reliever doesn't automatically mean he is the best choice to face tough lefties, just like a lefty can handle a right-handed batter if he has good enough stuff and command.  

I think sometimes, managers and GMs focus too much on the statistics of righties getting righties out and lefties getting lefties out - that doesn't apply to all right-handed pitchers or left-handed pitchers, just like Travis Hafner and other good left-handed hitters do pretty well against left-handed pitching.  I think managers and GMs need to keep that in mind.

Just my 2 cents on that. :-)

That's why Sauerbeck can't get anyone out - his command isn't good enough - it's either off the plate where no one will chase or it's right down the middle where it gets crushed for a homerun.

Personally, I thought Guthrie was one of our better performing relievers - the only ones who did better in my opinion were Wickman and Cabrera, since he returned.  I think both Guthrie and Davis are about neck-and-neck, though I think I would give Guthrie a slight edge over Davis, as I think Davis has given up more runs and has had a few more tougher outings than Guthrie.

I still think both of them are better than Sauerbeck.  If Sauerbeck doesn't figure it out by the end of this month, I would release him, just like they did with Graves.

Just my 2 cents. :-)

Take care and keep the "faith"!

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on May 16, 2006 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Why managers get ulcers
Last night I looked at Sauerbeck's splits and found lefties batted .162 against him (2nd best in the league!) and righties batted .377.

So what would you do this year?  Only let him pitch to lefties, right?  Bad move, in 3.1 innings pitched against lefties he has a 12.00 ERA.  But against righties he's pitched 5.0 innings and given up only 1 hit and no earned runs! He's one of our most successful relievers against right handed hitters this year!

What's a manager to do?

by LeftyCatcher on May 17, 2006 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Why managers get ulcers
What's a manager to do?

Probably not put too much stock into 25 outs. SMALL SAMPLE SIZE!

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on May 17, 2006 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Why managers get ulcers
I love it when somebody else says this.  

by Thommy on May 18, 2006 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Small sample size may have something to do...
with that.

Hello LeftyCatcher,

You make good points, though I believe small sample size may have something to do with that.

First, I did not know Wedge let Sauerbeck pitch to that many righties.  Second, I did not know Sauerbeck retired them that well.

However, I think there are two main problems:

  1. Wedge doesn't seem comfortable allowing Sauerbeck to face righties, even though Sauerbeck believes he can get them out.  Wedge allows Sauerbeck to face a lefty, usually walking or giving up a hit to him, and then Wedge goes back out to get him when a righty comes to the plate.

  2. Sauerbeck's command has been so erratic, he's walked or given up hard hits to both lefties and righties, so I'm not that confident that Sauerbeck will continue his "mastery" of right-handed batters.  I would think left-handed batters would have more trouble since Sauerbeck has more of a sidewind delivery, but lefties have had little trouble with Sauerbeck to this point.

I hope Sauerbeck works out, but I'm not that confident in him and I really don't think he'll be here long-term anyway.  I'd prefer to find out what the younger ones can do.  

I just remembered Jason Stanford is another possible lefty out of the bullpen (presuming he doesn't remain a starter); he might even be a better option than Sauerbeck, though with the problems the rotation has had lately, I might be tempted to try Stanford in the back-end of the rotation before shifting him to the bullpen.

Just my 2 cents. :-)

Take care and keep the "faith"!

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on May 17, 2006 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Small sample size may have something to do...
Yeah, I know it's a small sample size, and personally I would be very reluctant to let Sauerbeck pitch to a righty - based on last year's splits, but I just found it ironic that after getting beaten up by righties last year, and being very effective against lefties, this year has been just the opposite.

It's nice to see Stanford doing well in Buffalo.  It's encouraging to know we have an good backup option if Sauerbeck can't get the job done.

by LeftyCatcher on May 18, 2006 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good point - I was unaware of that!
Hello LeftyCatcher,

Good job in noticing that - I would have never guessed that.  I thought Sauerbeck's numbers against lefties and righties would be equally poor, with the exception of Sauerbeck getting more appearances against lefties, since Wedge doesn't seem that confident in using him against righties.

Very good job of noticing that - it is ironic that Sauerbeck has handled righties, but not handled lefties so far this season when he did the opposite last year.

Take care and have a great day!

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on May 18, 2006 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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