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2nd GAME THREAD

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Have to bail out CC again but the damage is not as severe as Game 1. It is still a one mistake and we're tied/in the lead game so I will take it.

Maybe Lofton can fire up this team.

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Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
kuzzy you are magic.  LETS GO TRIBE

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
COME ON DROOBS
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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NOT A FUCKING STRIKE
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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stroobs, or whatever.  cmon now dawg.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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DROOBS, come on here you clutchy guy

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Thanks C.C, Beckett showed up you are lucky.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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well, closer than we've been getting.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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horseshoes and hand grenades.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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beckett starting down the slippery slope?  remember the wakefield no-hitter game?  let's hope.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Just don't ban me if we don't win today. I have followed this forum for the whole season and I definitely prefer the type of Tribe fan here than in the cleveland.com Indians forum.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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haha, you won't get banned.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
It will be C.C fault not yours.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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man this is tense.  i need some cigarettes.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
You need lung disease?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue and dropping my bat near Josh Beckett.

by Ohiokie on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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pitch trax is stupid. that shit crossed over the plate and it showed it a foot outside. seriously fox wants boston to win. i'm getting riled up.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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CC looking better against 'tek there.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Tek is making a lot of pitchers look better these days.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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maybe i should try drinking something.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Beckett is a little prick......Manny is a jerk off....Schilling is a self-promoting hack....and I could go on.....classless team.

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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True.  Very true, but they have talent between the lines.

They are team that is easy to hate.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 10:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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That is why beating them will be every bit as good as beating NY.

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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That Fax speed gun looks high.  No way that was 95

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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thats the OLD CC, too bad hes nearing 100 pitches

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I just noticed on of the Indians blogs on the side was The Disappointment Zone, is this where C.C went before the playoffs started?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Here we go Cleveland....here we go!!!!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
hello?  who is that pitching right now?

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
6 innings, 2 earned runs. It hasn't been fun, but I'll take it.

by JesseAK on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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hes finally using the changeup, fastball and slider, but only against the 7-8-9 hitters....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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C.C problem has been fastball command and that is what he is relying on with the middle of the lineup.  He still needs to work on fastball command.  If he was in better shape he wouldn't tire on the fastball diet he is serving up.  He would have better command and be a much better pitcher.  Instead of a 3 something era it could be in the low 2's.  Until he makes a commitment to physical fitness he will continue to be what he is.  He could be so much more which is sad because he could be dominate.  I would love to show this guy how to work out and what a real athlete does to prepare for the season.  Its sad that some one being paid like he is doesn't have the discipline to eat healthy and work on his core body.  Those that fail themselves fail their teams.  
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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See he is out of shape and can't command a simple fastball, GET HIM OUT.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Get this team some runs NOW!!!!

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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CC's best inning.  Keep him in, he can go over 100.  Now let's do something.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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That was the first decent inning he had. I think he needs to tire himself out before a game to throw well.

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Hafner has a DP and a K but he has produced the only run.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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But he loked pathetic in both ABs. And did the announcers say something about him not getting an RBI for the DP?  Makes no sense, they have to be wrong on that one, no?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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But bad news -- Pronk is up this inning.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Go Tribe! Been pulling since I was born! Wooo! Go Ryan!!!

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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im getting a good feeling about Pronk right now.....he has to turn things around

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Now I get it...our offense needs Cialis!!!!
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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hey ghuys, i was stuck in the old thread, think others are as well.

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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time for some priapism, bitches.  pronk-style.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I would call the Guinness Book of Records if that happened!!!!
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
beckett's erection is lasting more than 4 hours.  call a physician.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Who the hell has bathtubs out on their porch????

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Come on, work the count Pronk.

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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pronk: the a fastball in the floor is not a strike

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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strike 1, he swung at pitch in the dirt.  yuck pronk.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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HIT THE FUCKING BALL HAFNER JESUS FUCKING CHRIST MOTHER FUCKING HIT THE BALL JESUS GOD DAMN SHIT
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Watch out Pronk...in on the hands now
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Papelbon getting up?!?!
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
hire anyone else
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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take Hafner out of the game....i feel bad for him

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I hate that curve...

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Again - I'd PH Trot for Pronk.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Bitch all you want...it's still only a 1 run game in the 6th.
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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absolutely agree.  and CC looked his best last inning

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Can we score 2 runs this game??? 3????

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Fox is giving Beckett a hummer
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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rightfully so. He is just embarassing us tonight.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Well he has been dominate.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I think maybe leave CC out, cuz the priapism on his breaking pitches has finally subsided.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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His fastball is exploding now too! ;-)
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Fox will give the entire Red Sox team free hummers on the flight back to Boston if they win and keep the network execs hopes alive...

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Matsney now Betancourt later.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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At least this is the last time we will see Beckett.  He is in a groove.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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OK, Mastny was great and all in Game 2, but if he comes in here I might have a heart attack.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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3 through 8 in the lineup are 1 for 14 tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Robo-Beckett is insane...geez.

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I threw my hat. Phone is off.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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CC stays in, I like the move.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I can't believe CC is still in there.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Here's hoping we don't get hard-up CC this inning...

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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correction, i don't like the move.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Is Mastny up in the pen or something, he is still the last man in the pen right?  Maybe Fultz and Laffey are behind him, but still this has to be COT time, right?

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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why when everything for cc was going right this happens??

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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that ball was allllll over the plate, yikes
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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CC will make Wedge regret his decision

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Wedge leaving a starter in too long backfires.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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And CC was still out there why?
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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now i'm gonna faint.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Wow, easy to second guess now, but it does seem foolish to bring CC back up.  There is an off day tomorrow and you have a lights out bullpen

by Pronktastic on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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CC ate through the leash
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Wedge is t-ing me off. C.C was getting Lucky, how many lead off hits does he have to give up till Wedge gets it through his thick head he sucks tonight.  Maybe Wedge wants to go back home.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I know, a legitimate WTF?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Game nearing outta reach if they score run 3....just not sure why C.C. is in when we have a pen.....christ this game has suck written all over it....

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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ok, I agreed with bringing CC back out. But after a leadoff double, why is he still in there?

by JesseAK on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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omg. wtf were they doing? that ball was up there forever?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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did he slowed down >>>>>?????what tha fuck that was an easy catch....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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OH SHIT SHIT SHIT TRIPLE.  SIZEMORE you should have had that one.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Wedge you suck as bad as C.C tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Worst play by Grady since the KC game where he lost the fly ball
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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FUCK THIS. Hate when you leave your struggling ACE in too long.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Man the worst thing about that play is that Grady had been doing that kind of thing more often as the season wore on.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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the players had all day yesterday to think about winning the series at home;  too much thinking

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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WE SHOULD TOTALLY LEAVE CC IN HERE.  

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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SO MAD I could see this lame duck coming in the first inning, Why, WHY WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Grady is a better defensive outfielder than he is showing in this game. He should have prevented two runs.

by JesseAK on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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ortiz and manny up. runner on third, no outs. 3-1 boston, beckett cruising.

yeah. more pbr is in order.

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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by thw way where the fuck is Rafael Perez this days?

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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what exactly was wrong with the plan that got us here?

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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defensive screwups cost the games in this series.  see our 7-run inning last game.  you CANT do that Grady.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Game boys(okay I know really negative but).....horrible....disgusting....now we have to see freaking Stephen King, John Kerrey, Matt Damon/Ben Affleck, and all the FOX love goo for the Red Sox...oh yeah and all that 2004 replay shit....I hate the Red Sox as much as the Yankees really.

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Was I wrong to call out C.C in the First?

NO!

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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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what's your point or don't you have one?

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Could it be that Wedge is looking at winning the series with Carmona and in the meantime is pushing CC to see how much he is worth to the Indians on the open market?  He has to have more faith in Fausto than CC at this point.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Are you kidding me??  Wedge is trying to win TODAY.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Are you fucking kidding me? No seriously are you fucking kidding me?

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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how do you justify CC pitching the 7th over Betancourt?

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Certainly not the way that you did. Give your head a shake.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I would have more faith in myself to pitch to the Red Sox right now then C.C.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Pushing CC because of free agency?  That's absurd.

Wedge only wants one thing:  one more win in the ALCS.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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you can't deny CC is driving his price down.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Hahaha....CC's going to win the Cy Young.  A couple of poor postseason starts isn't going to change his value one bit.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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This alone is making me think resigning C.C isn't worth it, you don't think other GM's aren't considering it?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Any GM who bases a pitcher's value on a couple of poor starts is a moron.  

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Yeah, I think letting a starter who is a potential 20 game winner go because of rough starts in the ALCS makes perfect sense.  The same bizarro reasoning will justify the Yankees in letting the AL MVP sign with another team.

Was a shutout a minimum requirement for CC to maintain his status?  Because unless he threw a shutout the Indians would still be losing.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Not over yet guys...where's the faith?
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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OK Raffy-R.  If anyone can get us out of this you can.  But this is so tough.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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My blood pressure will stay normal unless we have a game 7. I have more faith in Fausto bouncing back from a bad start than CC at this point.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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jesus christ kenny you scared the fuck out of me there.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Circle of Trust.  One out, no more baserunners.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Why the basket catch Kenny?
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I'd say 4 ER is about what CC deserved tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I'd say he's damn luck not to have 8 ER.  DPs saved his ass.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Poor ass-end hitting saved him at least 5 runs.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Do you say the same thing when Westbrook gets his ass saved by double plays?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Imagine how different things would have been if Pronk doesn't hit into a DP.....how many runs would we have scored? Oh well....just disgusted that really C.C. has not shown up this post season.....another run scores...TOO MANY...

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Okay, okay.  Given all that has happened so far.  Given how well Beckett has pitched.  I will take what just happened if they hold it there and wait to see if the Tribe can blow up the Boston bullpen.

It would be great, no?

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Yeah but it will be Okajima and Papelbon so we will have to earn it.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Sounds like fun.....lets do it.

by Nat on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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C.C lost us this game, Beckett will finish us unless we get some gritty play.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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gritty play is our MO all season long.  look to K-Love, Jhonny, Blake, Asdrubal, Circle of Trust for that stuff.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Blame CC all you want but we have only pushed across 1 run so far.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Beckett is dealing, I am happy we even have one.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
you want your ace to keep you in games like this, but agreed

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 10:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Hey Hey Hey  

Let's Go Tribe.

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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OK, I'm imposing a moritorium on negative comments from myself. You all don't have to follow if you don't want, but I'm just saying.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Just remember kids if you don't wanna get all stressed....according to everyone's favorite role model, Manny Ramirez, none of this really matters because there is always next year...it's not the end of the world or anything!

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Nasty pitch....make him our starter, make CC our closer

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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So Manny can strike out.  Hello Indians pitchers he is not God.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Wedge would like to win this game but I think he went into it realizing the matchup did not favor us and will be more confident in the game 6 matchup.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I do like Carmona over Schilling any day of the week......just like Boston felt with Beckett over CC

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 10:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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lets get backkk guys....come on....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I just realized I haven't let out a "whoop" since the 1st inning.

GIVE ME REASON TO WHOOP, TRIBE!

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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let's scratch some runs across.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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3 runs is do-able.  pappelbon is not god.  betancourt is.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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WPA tells us that Hafner is more to blame than CC right now, I think I'd agree at this point.

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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What does it say about the 7-8-9 hitters for Boston.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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However, it also has Sizemore as the most beneficial to us, and if he is having a good day in the field, we are tied.

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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yes, but just because of the DPs.  If not for them we're looking at 6-1, 8-1, whatever.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Once again, all pitchers benefit from double plays...what's your point?  If not for double plays, Westbrook would be a pretty bad pitcher.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Yep, I think CC gave a great performance. He was clearly losing it at the end of the 6th, I thought leaving him out there for the 7th was crazy.

Agreed that Hafner is killing us in this game. C'mon now Pronk...

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Here is the plan, wait for a fastball and until you get it don't swing until you have two strikes.  Make Beckett earn it and by all means throw your bat down on balls.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
TRADE WEDGE.  (Indians did trade managers with Detroit in 1970s.  Alvin Dark maybe?)

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I poured myself a bourbon.  In game 2 I waited until the 10th inning to do that, but it sure worked.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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HEY HEY HEY LETS GO TRIBE
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Your comments consistently make me laugh - and I'm not just saying this because we're fellow PBR drinkers.

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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we have to pray to the baseball gods now for some hitting, or that boston takes out beckett

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Consider how close Colorado was to having their seaosn ended in the 1-game playoff, and now they're in the WS.  We're currently in a far better situation (game-wise and "series"-wise) and still have 3 innings to score these runs and win this game.

Go Tribe!

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
if it's going to happen...it's going to happen now.

come on, fellas.

Asdrubal: Spanish form of "Hasdrubal". Means "Ba'al helps" from Phoenician azru "help" combined with the name of the god BA'AL.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Nice cleavage on Beckett's ex singing GBA.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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i don't want to see this series go back to boston, for the love of jesus

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Lowell is way better then Scott Rolen! LOL
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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i just wanna be able to blast "cleveland rocks" by the presidents of the united states, for the rest of the nite tonite

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I'd like Kenny to straighten out his swing ...
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
lofton should rip beckett's head off with his bat, now THAT would be good tv

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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INFIELD HITS!
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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FUCK YOU BECKETT!

Haha guaranteed he was already thinking of what to tell Kenny after the out before he had the ball.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Gift from Beckett....let's take advantage!

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
"And the ball goes through Beckett!"

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Gutz has had a couple great ABs against Beckett tonight ... need one more here baby

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Lofton magic, speed kills.  Glad Kenny keeps himself in good shape.  At that moment Beckett's ex yelled out YOU SUCK and went topless.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Beckett's EX yelled out YOU SUCK and went TOPLESS.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Beckett really has been keeping the ball off Gutz power Zone.....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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All right let's get going!!!

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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An error for Lofton almost doesn't seem right.  If he hadn't run hard, he would have been out.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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nice pitch, come on gutz.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I don't know where that pitch was ...
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Gutz needs to go home because he isn't swinging at anything tonight.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
we haven't been making very solid contact since the 1st.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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What the hell happened to that wind? Start waving the goddamn towels!

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Dammit. dammit dammit dammit

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Blake=Gritty
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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My god, beckett's curve is just unfair

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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we need another big hit from the all mighty beard!

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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their order is only dangerous at 2-3-4-5.  Ours at 1-2-3-5-6-7-8-9, only one hole.  They only have one starting pitcher.  Even if we have to go to Boston which I hope not, I like our chances.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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You've gotta start proofreading your comments.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I know my typing usually sucks, but what did I miss there?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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You just claimed that Vic is the one hole in our lineup. I would hope that by now you know our lineup composition.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
The hate on this board tonight for Hafner and CC is really remarkable.  Do you realize we'd never be anywhere near this position if it wasn't for those two guys?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
COME ON CASEY
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Beckett not looking like an SP in the 7th, still in control here.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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not a strike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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we don't stand a chance until beckett is out

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I don't understand why you don't swing at that pitch with Lofton running.

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Casey dies with the bat on his shoulder.

Do we just have to concede to Beckett or do we even try to get a hit?

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
........dont wat to go back to fenway

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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If the Tribe has to go back to to Fenway then we will get to see Red Sox Nation go home pissed after we win in Boston.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Gutz swings at ball 4, Casey watches strike three... Goddammit

by DaytonDogg on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, NOT A SINGLE UMP HAS HAD A DECENT ZONE ALL SERIES. THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE. YOU WANT CRAZY PEOPLE TO THINK THAT MLB HAS A PRO-BOSTON AGENDA, WELL THESE UMPIRES ARE ENCOURAGING THOSE THOUGHTS.

That's not negative, is it?

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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No, I think it's just about right.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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He seems to be inconsistent both ways Grady.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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See below, I know he's been awful period. I'm just being outrageous.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Shitty calls have been going both ways the whole series man.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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I know, I know, I know. I'm just riled up.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Ok we clearly have given up on this game.  SWING THE BAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Nope, I don't want my hitters to swing at balls, which that was. Not our fault the umpire is given Beckett 4-5 inches.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Exactly, we can't afford to be taking pitches at this point.

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
the indians have pulled some crazy come from behind wins before, looks like we'll need another one

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Anti Beckett 3RD Game Thread?
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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Blech.  Watching these games can't be good for my heart.

by Rachie on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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One player, and one player only, has made this a series.

I'm talking, of course, about Trot Nixon.  However, this beckett has pitched OK too.

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Come on guys...I want to see Garko top his post game performance in New York!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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So are we going to see 2 innings of Papelbon tonight?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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wait, why take out Raffie R when he got 3 outs vs the heart of the order?!

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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6 outs to get 3 runs. Tall order against Beckett/Papelbon.  Wedge messed this one up.  When you have a team on the ropes you go for the kill and that means when they have their Ace on the mound you can't afford to give any runs and Wedge stayed with C.C way to long.  

Fire Wedge.

Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
That's just ridiculous.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply