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2nd GAME THREAD

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Have to bail out CC again but the damage is not as severe as Game 1. It is still a one mistake and we're tied/in the lead game so I will take it.

Maybe Lofton can fire up this team.

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Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
kuzzy you are magic.  LETS GO TRIBE

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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NOT A FUCKING STRIKE
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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stroobs, or whatever.  cmon now dawg.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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DROOBS, come on here you clutchy guy

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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Thanks C.C, Beckett showed up you are lucky.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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well, closer than we've been getting.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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horseshoes and hand grenades.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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beckett starting down the slippery slope?  remember the wakefield no-hitter game?  let's hope.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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Just don't ban me if we don't win today. I have followed this forum for the whole season and I definitely prefer the type of Tribe fan here than in the cleveland.com Indians forum.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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haha, you won't get banned.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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It will be C.C fault not yours.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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man this is tense.  i need some cigarettes.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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You need lung disease?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue and dropping my bat near Josh Beckett.

by Ohiokie on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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pitch trax is stupid. that shit crossed over the plate and it showed it a foot outside. seriously fox wants boston to win. i'm getting riled up.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

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CC looking better against 'tek there.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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Tek is making a lot of pitchers look better these days.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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maybe i should try drinking something.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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Beckett is a little prick......Manny is a jerk off....Schilling is a self-promoting hack....and I could go on.....classless team.

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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True.  Very true, but they have talent between the lines.

They are team that is easy to hate.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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That is why beating them will be every bit as good as beating NY.

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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That Fax speed gun looks high.  No way that was 95

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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thats the OLD CC, too bad hes nearing 100 pitches

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

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I just noticed on of the Indians blogs on the side was The Disappointment Zone, is this where C.C went before the playoffs started?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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Here we go Cleveland....here we go!!!!
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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hello?  who is that pitching right now?

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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6 innings, 2 earned runs. It hasn't been fun, but I'll take it.

by JesseAK on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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hes finally using the changeup, fastball and slider, but only against the 7-8-9 hitters....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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C.C problem has been fastball command and that is what he is relying on with the middle of the lineup.  He still needs to work on fastball command.  If he was in better shape he wouldn't tire on the fastball diet he is serving up.  He would have better command and be a much better pitcher.  Instead of a 3 something era it could be in the low 2's.  Until he makes a commitment to physical fitness he will continue to be what he is.  He could be so much more which is sad because he could be dominate.  I would love to show this guy how to work out and what a real athlete does to prepare for the season.  Its sad that some one being paid like he is doesn't have the discipline to eat healthy and work on his core body.  Those that fail themselves fail their teams.  
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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See he is out of shape and can't command a simple fastball, GET HIM OUT.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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CC's best inning.  Keep him in, he can go over 100.  Now let's do something.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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That was the first decent inning he had. I think he needs to tire himself out before a game to throw well.

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Hafner has a DP and a K but he has produced the only run.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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But he loked pathetic in both ABs. And did the announcers say something about him not getting an RBI for the DP?  Makes no sense, they have to be wrong on that one, no?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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But bad news -- Pronk is up this inning.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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Go Tribe! Been pulling since I was born! Wooo! Go Ryan!!!

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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im getting a good feeling about Pronk right now.....he has to turn things around

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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Now I get it...our offense needs Cialis!!!!
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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hey ghuys, i was stuck in the old thread, think others are as well.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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time for some priapism, bitches.  pronk-style.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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I would call the Guinness Book of Records if that happened!!!!
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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beckett's erection is lasting more than 4 hours.  call a physician.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Who the hell has bathtubs out on their porch????

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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Come on, work the count Pronk.

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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pronk: the a fastball in the floor is not a strike

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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strike 1, he swung at pitch in the dirt.  yuck pronk.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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HIT THE FUCKING BALL HAFNER JESUS FUCKING CHRIST MOTHER FUCKING HIT THE BALL JESUS GOD DAMN SHIT
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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Watch out Pronk...in on the hands now
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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Papelbon getting up?!?!
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
hire anyone else
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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take Hafner out of the game....i feel bad for him

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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I hate that curve...

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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Bitch all you want...it's still only a 1 run game in the 6th.
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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absolutely agree.  and CC looked his best last inning

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Can we score 2 runs this game??? 3????

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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Fox is giving Beckett a hummer
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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rightfully so. He is just embarassing us tonight.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Well he has been dominate.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I think maybe leave CC out, cuz the priapism on his breaking pitches has finally subsided.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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His fastball is exploding now too! ;-)
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Fox will give the entire Red Sox team free hummers on the flight back to Boston if they win and keep the network execs hopes alive...

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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Matsney now Betancourt later.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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At least this is the last time we will see Beckett.  He is in a groove.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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OK, Mastny was great and all in Game 2, but if he comes in here I might have a heart attack.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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3 through 8 in the lineup are 1 for 14 tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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Robo-Beckett is insane...geez.

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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I threw my hat. Phone is off.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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CC stays in, I like the move.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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I can't believe CC is still in there.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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Here's hoping we don't get hard-up CC this inning...

by MKerina on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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correction, i don't like the move.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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Is Mastny up in the pen or something, he is still the last man in the pen right?  Maybe Fultz and Laffey are behind him, but still this has to be COT time, right?

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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why when everything for cc was going right this happens??

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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that ball was allllll over the plate, yikes
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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CC will make Wedge regret his decision

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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Wedge leaving a starter in too long backfires.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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And CC was still out there why?
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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now i'm gonna faint.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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Wow, easy to second guess now, but it does seem foolish to bring CC back up.  There is an off day tomorrow and you have a lights out bullpen

by Pronktastic on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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CC ate through the leash
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Wedge is t-ing me off. C.C was getting Lucky, how many lead off hits does he have to give up till Wedge gets it through his thick head he sucks tonight.  Maybe Wedge wants to go back home.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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Game nearing outta reach if they score run 3....just not sure why C.C. is in when we have a pen.....christ this game has suck written all over it....

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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ok, I agreed with bringing CC back out. But after a leadoff double, why is he still in there?

by JesseAK on Oct 18, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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omg. wtf were they doing? that ball was up there forever?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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did he slowed down >>>>>?????what tha fuck that was an easy catch....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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OH SHIT SHIT SHIT TRIPLE.  SIZEMORE you should have had that one.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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Wedge you suck as bad as C.C tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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Worst play by Grady since the KC game where he lost the fly ball
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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FUCK THIS. Hate when you leave your struggling ACE in too long.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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Man the worst thing about that play is that Grady had been doing that kind of thing more often as the season wore on.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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the players had all day yesterday to think about winning the series at home;  too much thinking

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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WE SHOULD TOTALLY LEAVE CC IN HERE.  

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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SO MAD I could see this lame duck coming in the first inning, Why, WHY WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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Grady is a better defensive outfielder than he is showing in this game. He should have prevented two runs.

by JesseAK on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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ortiz and manny up. runner on third, no outs. 3-1 boston, beckett cruising.

yeah. more pbr is in order.

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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by thw way where the fuck is Rafael Perez this days?

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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what exactly was wrong with the plan that got us here?

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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defensive screwups cost the games in this series.  see our 7-run inning last game.  you CANT do that Grady.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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Game boys(okay I know really negative but).....horrible....disgusting....now we have to see freaking Stephen King, John Kerrey, Matt Damon/Ben Affleck, and all the FOX love goo for the Red Sox...oh yeah and all that 2004 replay shit....I hate the Red Sox as much as the Yankees really.

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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Was I wrong to call out C.C in the First?

NO!

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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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what's your point or don't you have one?

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Could it be that Wedge is looking at winning the series with Carmona and in the meantime is pushing CC to see how much he is worth to the Indians on the open market?  He has to have more faith in Fausto than CC at this point.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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Are you kidding me??  Wedge is trying to win TODAY.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Are you fucking kidding me? No seriously are you fucking kidding me?

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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how do you justify CC pitching the 7th over Betancourt?

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Certainly not the way that you did. Give your head a shake.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I would have more faith in myself to pitch to the Red Sox right now then C.C.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Pushing CC because of free agency?  That's absurd.

Wedge only wants one thing:  one more win in the ALCS.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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you can't deny CC is driving his price down.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Hahaha....CC's going to win the Cy Young.  A couple of poor postseason starts isn't going to change his value one bit.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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This alone is making me think resigning C.C isn't worth it, you don't think other GM's aren't considering it?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Any GM who bases a pitcher's value on a couple of poor starts is a moron.  

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, I think letting a starter who is a potential 20 game winner go because of rough starts in the ALCS makes perfect sense.  The same bizarro reasoning will justify the Yankees in letting the AL MVP sign with another team.

Was a shutout a minimum requirement for CC to maintain his status?  Because unless he threw a shutout the Indians would still be losing.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Not over yet guys...where's the faith?
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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OK Raffy-R.  If anyone can get us out of this you can.  But this is so tough.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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My blood pressure will stay normal unless we have a game 7. I have more faith in Fausto bouncing back from a bad start than CC at this point.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

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jesus christ kenny you scared the fuck out of me there.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

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Circle of Trust.  One out, no more baserunners.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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Why the basket catch Kenny?
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'd say 4 ER is about what CC deserved tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'd say he's damn luck not to have 8 ER.  DPs saved his ass.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Poor ass-end hitting saved him at least 5 runs.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Do you say the same thing when Westbrook gets his ass saved by double plays?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Imagine how different things would have been if Pronk doesn't hit into a DP.....how many runs would we have scored? Oh well....just disgusted that really C.C. has not shown up this post season.....another run scores...TOO MANY...

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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Okay, okay.  Given all that has happened so far.  Given how well Beckett has pitched.  I will take what just happened if they hold it there and wait to see if the Tribe can blow up the Boston bullpen.

It would be great, no?

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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Yeah but it will be Okajima and Papelbon so we will have to earn it.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Sounds like fun.....lets do it.

by Nat on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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C.C lost us this game, Beckett will finish us unless we get some gritty play.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

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gritty play is our MO all season long.  look to K-Love, Jhonny, Blake, Asdrubal, Circle of Trust for that stuff.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Blame CC all you want but we have only pushed across 1 run so far.
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

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Beckett is dealing, I am happy we even have one.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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you want your ace to keep you in games like this, but agreed

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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OK, I'm imposing a moritorium on negative comments from myself. You all don't have to follow if you don't want, but I'm just saying.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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Just remember kids if you don't wanna get all stressed....according to everyone's favorite role model, Manny Ramirez, none of this really matters because there is always next year...it's not the end of the world or anything!

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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Nasty pitch....make him our starter, make CC our closer

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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So Manny can strike out.  Hello Indians pitchers he is not God.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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Wedge would like to win this game but I think he went into it realizing the matchup did not favor us and will be more confident in the game 6 matchup.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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I do like Carmona over Schilling any day of the week......just like Boston felt with Beckett over CC

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

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lets get backkk guys....come on....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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I just realized I haven't let out a "whoop" since the 1st inning.

GIVE ME REASON TO WHOOP, TRIBE!

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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let's scratch some runs across.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

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3 runs is do-able.  pappelbon is not god.  betancourt is.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

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WPA tells us that Hafner is more to blame than CC right now, I think I'd agree at this point.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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What does it say about the 7-8-9 hitters for Boston.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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However, it also has Sizemore as the most beneficial to us, and if he is having a good day in the field, we are tied.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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yes, but just because of the DPs.  If not for them we're looking at 6-1, 8-1, whatever.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Once again, all pitchers benefit from double plays...what's your point?  If not for double plays, Westbrook would be a pretty bad pitcher.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yep, I think CC gave a great performance. He was clearly losing it at the end of the 6th, I thought leaving him out there for the 7th was crazy.

Agreed that Hafner is killing us in this game. C'mon now Pronk...

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Here is the plan, wait for a fastball and until you get it don't swing until you have two strikes.  Make Beckett earn it and by all means throw your bat down on balls.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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TRADE WEDGE.  (Indians did trade managers with Detroit in 1970s.  Alvin Dark maybe?)

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I poured myself a bourbon.  In game 2 I waited until the 10th inning to do that, but it sure worked.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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HEY HEY HEY LETS GO TRIBE
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

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Your comments consistently make me laugh - and I'm not just saying this because we're fellow PBR drinkers.

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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we have to pray to the baseball gods now for some hitting, or that boston takes out beckett

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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Consider how close Colorado was to having their seaosn ended in the 1-game playoff, and now they're in the WS.  We're currently in a far better situation (game-wise and "series"-wise) and still have 3 innings to score these runs and win this game.

Go Tribe!

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

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if it's going to happen...it's going to happen now.

come on, fellas.

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by jonnykilbane on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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Nice cleavage on Beckett's ex singing GBA.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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i don't want to see this series go back to boston, for the love of jesus

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

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Lowell is way better then Scott Rolen! LOL
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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i just wanna be able to blast "cleveland rocks" by the presidents of the united states, for the rest of the nite tonite

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'd like Kenny to straighten out his swing ...
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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lofton should rip beckett's head off with his bat, now THAT would be good tv

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

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FUCK YOU BECKETT!

Haha guaranteed he was already thinking of what to tell Kenny after the out before he had the ball.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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Gift from Beckett....let's take advantage!

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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"And the ball goes through Beckett!"

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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Gutz has had a couple great ABs against Beckett tonight ... need one more here baby

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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Lofton magic, speed kills.  Glad Kenny keeps himself in good shape.  At that moment Beckett's ex yelled out YOU SUCK and went topless.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

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Beckett's EX yelled out YOU SUCK and went TOPLESS.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Beckett really has been keeping the ball off Gutz power Zone.....

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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An error for Lofton almost doesn't seem right.  If he hadn't run hard, he would have been out.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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nice pitch, come on gutz.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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I don't know where that pitch was ...
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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Gutz needs to go home because he isn't swinging at anything tonight.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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we haven't been making very solid contact since the 1st.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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What the hell happened to that wind? Start waving the goddamn towels!

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

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Blake=Gritty
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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My god, beckett's curve is just unfair

by mrich on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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we need another big hit from the all mighty beard!

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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their order is only dangerous at 2-3-4-5.  Ours at 1-2-3-5-6-7-8-9, only one hole.  They only have one starting pitcher.  Even if we have to go to Boston which I hope not, I like our chances.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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You've gotta start proofreading your comments.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I know my typing usually sucks, but what did I miss there?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You just claimed that Vic is the one hole in our lineup. I would hope that by now you know our lineup composition.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The hate on this board tonight for Hafner and CC is really remarkable.  Do you realize we'd never be anywhere near this position if it wasn't for those two guys?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Beckett not looking like an SP in the 7th, still in control here.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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not a strike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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we don't stand a chance until beckett is out

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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I don't understand why you don't swing at that pitch with Lofton running.

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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Casey dies with the bat on his shoulder.

Do we just have to concede to Beckett or do we even try to get a hit?

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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........dont wat to go back to fenway

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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If the Tribe has to go back to to Fenway then we will get to see Red Sox Nation go home pissed after we win in Boston.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Gutz swings at ball 4, Casey watches strike three... Goddammit

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, NOT A SINGLE UMP HAS HAD A DECENT ZONE ALL SERIES. THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE. YOU WANT CRAZY PEOPLE TO THINK THAT MLB HAS A PRO-BOSTON AGENDA, WELL THESE UMPIRES ARE ENCOURAGING THOSE THOUGHTS.

That's not negative, is it?

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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No, I think it's just about right.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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He seems to be inconsistent both ways Grady.
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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See below, I know he's been awful period. I'm just being outrageous.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Shitty calls have been going both ways the whole series man.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I know, I know, I know. I'm just riled up.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Ok we clearly have given up on this game.  SWING THE BAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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Nope, I don't want my hitters to swing at balls, which that was. Not our fault the umpire is given Beckett 4-5 inches.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Exactly, we can't afford to be taking pitches at this point.

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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the indians have pulled some crazy come from behind wins before, looks like we'll need another one

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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Anti Beckett 3RD Game Thread?
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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Blech.  Watching these games can't be good for my heart.

by Rachie on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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One player, and one player only, has made this a series.

I'm talking, of course, about Trot Nixon.  However, this beckett has pitched OK too.

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

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Come on guys...I want to see Garko top his post game performance in New York!
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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So are we going to see 2 innings of Papelbon tonight?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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wait, why take out Raffie R when he got 3 outs vs the heart of the order?!

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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6 outs to get 3 runs. Tall order against Beckett/Papelbon.  Wedge messed this one up.  When you have a team on the ropes you go for the kill and that means when they have their Ace on the mound you can't afford to give any runs and Wedge stayed with C.C way to long.  

Fire Wedge.

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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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That's just ridiculous.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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i don't think he should have brought CC back out either.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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in fact, i don't even find the complaint controversial.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Come now, E5, are you serious or just baiting people?

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Every thing up to Fire Wedge was spot on.

Fire Wedge was an anger cry.

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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Scarecrow vs. butt-end.  Mismatch here.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

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Lefties are "sinister" in Latin - I like to think of Raffy L as such.

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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C.C was a sin.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Just remembered a question I had from Game 4. Was there any discussion as to why Astro and Vic were batting righthanded against Wakefield? I don't see any noticable left-right splits for Wakefield....is this just something that hitters do now against him? Is it just something that we do?

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:16 PM EDT reply actions  

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Switch hitters usually hit righty against Wakefield - maybe all knuckleballers?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I thought that was weird too.  And did the "expert" commentators enlighten us?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I remember that Vizquel used to bat righty against knuckleballers.  They asked Wedge about it and he said Vic sees the ball better that way (or at least thinks he does) and so Cabrera's doing the same.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Batters tend to go with their natural swing since they do not have to worry about the curveball.   I guess they have to approach it as needing to have a quick bat, and the natural swing tends to be a little quicker.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Fuck, there is a tornado watch in Cincinnati and warning in some of the surrounding counties so we keep getting shit flashed on the screen, emergency beeps and anouncements and local weather break ins, this sucks

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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And they also turn off the HD machine for the warnings.  SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP.

by Rachie on Oct 18, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You seriously cannot fucking walk J.D. Drew.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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that's what we need...a leadoff walk

by pronk626 on Oct 18, 2007 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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Can we please pinch hit for Hafner, please?

Pretty please?

I love Pronk, but something's wrong there.  He can't seem to make contact.

by Exurban Mom on Oct 18, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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PBR me ASAP! , or should I go with what I typed in originally, PBR em ASAP?
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by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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Both are likely to result in the same positive result

by Captain Pabst on Oct 18, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh how cute and adorable the Red Sox bullpen is....jeezus FOX could you at least try to maintain some freaking subjectivity?

by razzpunk on Oct 18, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? WHAT THE F WAS THAT?!

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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oh dear god that was tailor made raffy P
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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Tim needs pom-poms
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by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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I've never understood how pitchers can hit a dime at 90+ but can't throw it in the general vicinity of a base.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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it's all in teh setup to the throw
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by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Raffy Rafyy Raffy.  Inning should have been over.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

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i insist, should have stayed with raffy r

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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I would love to see the Red Sox have an E5 but that isn't going to happen.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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I know Mastny was great in game 2, but, really? Lewis' arm must be tired.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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He will get out of it with a Double Play 4-6-3.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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smart play by lugo, nothing RP could do there.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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holy shit is mastny seriously coming in
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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shoulda stayed with RAFFIE R! dammit

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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Iron Glove on the mound.

I still have nightmares from 1999.

Please, God, don't do this to me again.

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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RP is trying to do it all by himself.  Remember, this is his first time on the big stage.  Hope he's a quick learner.
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by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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If anyone had a good line on the ground ball, it was Blake
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by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The Indians and specifically Wedge and C.C threw up all over themselves tonight.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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Christ, are you done yet?

It's ONE GAME. They have to win THREE IN A ROW. Get a grip, or wait until Game 7.

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by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Can't knock CC, with all the iron gloves out there tonight.  Wedge is like the guy at the prom, dancing with what got him there, and... you know... the rest of the story.  Page 3 ????
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by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, please....go away.  You're depressing.  We're up 3 games to 1.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Son of a bitch. This just doesn't look to be our night.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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Well, I think I might have gone crazy, but I'm laughing out loud right now.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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Raffy Perez is being taken out of a bases loaded situation in ALCS Game 5 for Tom Mastny.

You tell me that statement one month ago and I laugh in your face.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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This is why I'm laughing now.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I'd say Mastny = surrender until game 2.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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But the Tribe CAN win in Fenway.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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and Boston only has one starting pitcher.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Schilling and Dice-K should not overmatch the Tribe even with a 2nd opportunity.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Raffy P may not be in the COT any more...

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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Certainly lower in the hierarchy anyway.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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it was his defense not his pitching that cost us.  small consolation i know.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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why did wedge take betencourt out?

by ELVISGOAT on Oct 18, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

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Saving his arm because he knew he F'ed up keeping C.C in to long.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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shut the fuck up
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I knew C.C didn't have it in the first, Wedge needs to be called out on the carpet for this one.
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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are you enjoying this? seriously? it really fucking seems like it.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Same shit as the regular season. He'd rather be right than for us to succeed. Sad really.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Grady has a good day, CC gives up 1 run in 6 +... and you wouldn't be posting

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Alright, who ordered the pizza.
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by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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Haha geez I just looked into my kitchen when you said that and realized what I had for dinner tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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ARE YOU SERIOUS MARIO
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Haha I'm not shitting. But I think it's been shown that pizza isn't a complete jinx. Soup however does help the victory quotient.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Game over!
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by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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i wish i could ban you right now, you're really pissing me off
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I got your back.
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by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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that ain't mastny's fault
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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All right I think we're done here.

by Jackdaw on Oct 18, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Martinez buddy
ya gotta stop those balls. :)

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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PB.  sac situation.  fuck.  see you in fenway guys.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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The whole team is playing tight.  You can understand not hitting Beckett, but the fielding has been bad.  Hope going on the road relaxes them.

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

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You all realize, of course, that all of this is Wedge's brilliant plan to knock Beckett out of the game.

Crafty SOB.

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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

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Yea long half innings don't do any favors to SP late in the game that is for sure.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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hope Carmona brings his stuff to boston

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

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Don't let the S-aw-ks natiuun con anyone.  Quoting from one of my favorite movies, "A fight is rounds.  This is (one round)"
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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but seriously though, where was Jensen? I love Nasty Mastny as much as the next guy, but come on.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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at least he's keeping the ball down?
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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Yuck.  umm ... Mastny trying to face his sure thing outs Pappy & Manny?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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this just keeps getting prettier and prettier

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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1999!

Slowly I turn . . . step by step . . . inch by inch

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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Haha Tom fucking Mastny. It was sweet while it lasted.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

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I know, right? You just gotta laugh it off and say, "Oh yeah we got Fausto Carmona starting on Saturday."
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Actually, if we get to the series and Mastny has the good breaking stuff, I like his chances against Colorado.
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Tom Mastny, your very very brief stay in the Circle of Trust is long over now.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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is it really even a circle anymore?

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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It's a fucking line now, it's a fucking goddamn LINE OF TRUST.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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What is the pitching coach going to say?  Don't give up a home run?

by JamesPowell on Oct 18, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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"I think you should try and throw some strikes."

by Rachie on Oct 18, 2007 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Fuck it, I want Fultz. I want a good laugh tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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Nah man Mastny's the giant killer, though I did LOL at your post Mario.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Alright laughing at my jokes has its rewards. Facebook me if you want a peek at my WS lottery passcode.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I ain't looking at shit until we win the ALCS.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Haha fair enough. Oh man I just laughed hard.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Mastny struck out Manny, I love it.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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This is the Mastny we knew all year, no?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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Hey look! A strike!
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by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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considering watching the end of the Rutgers-USF game instead of this train wreck

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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2-1 after six and Wedge makes a big mistake not going to Lewis.  You pull CC after 100 ptiches if he only made it through 6. I know what ifs are bullshit but that was a definite managerial head scratcher. We likely lose tonight but I will NOT buy into any hype about series changing momentum. That is even bigger bullshit. We got outpitched by a stud named Beckett.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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The rook's got some real good points tonight.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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aand take out raffy r after one inning!

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I agree.  And I repeat - they have ONE starting pitcher.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Wedge could have kept the game closer with different decisions.  Bringing CC out for the 7th was not the move of a manager who was more concerned about this game than the rest of the series and the WS.  

by palcal on Oct 18, 2007 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I'm not looking at Fangraphs but top 8th 1 out, bases loaded, 5 run game, must be 99.9%?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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Clinching is easy for us in Boston.  We've done it more times than Boston!  Fausto will bring the fire on Saturday.

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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Just drill Manny here for the hell of it!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

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How can't we blame Wedge for this one?  I am not afraid to call players or managers out.  I am sure Wedge would say he stayed with C.C to long.  I am pissed because I wanted this game bad and I could see early C.C didn't have it ONCE AGAIN.  I wish I would have been wrong but I wasn't.  When I say we are going to win game we do and when I see our SP blow chucks I say it.  I played the game my whole life, I can see things happening that regular people can't.  If you want to wine about it go ahead but I am rarely wrong in the general sense.  I still feel like we will win this Series but in game 7, as Schilling is going to pitch a gem. Carmona will be better but not good enough.  However, Dice K will throw up all over himself and Westbrook will battle and our bullpen will save us again to go to the Series.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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I think there's a good case for Wedge staying with CC.  Hindsight is 20-20, but he looked better in the 5th than any earlier inning.  Was the 5th his only 1-2-3 no-hit inning?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I think that was the 6th.  In our household, we have a saying:  Don't let Sabathia out of the dugout after the 6th inning.  Ever. Period.

Though Beckett's shit has been so good tonight, I don't know if we could have won anyway.

by Exurban Mom on Oct 18, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Our SP blow Chucks? I just had a hilarious vision of Mr. Maui popping a Cialis as Fausto pops in his dentures.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I took this post the way-wrong way, I think.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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is there a right way to read that post?  8-D
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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i dont know why Perez went out, i rather faced Pedroia with perez than with Mastny that has a hard time finding the strike zone

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

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Jesus, it's 6 fucking runs, against this Papelbon asshole (unless Beckett's staying in?).

I may be the only one left who thinks we can win tonight.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'm still here!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I am also an eternal Tribe optimist. It is my cross to bear.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I always see the dark side but always have hope, am staying to the bitter end (bourbon-influenced bad typing and all).  One pitch one out looks bad, though.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I hate Beckett more than anyone else on the Red Sox or Yankees, including Manny. Not just because he's good, but because he's cocky and arrogant about it, too. Fuck Josh Beckett.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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Until the Tribe signs him as a FA then it is not cockiness and arrogance but confidence.

Give the man his props.

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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True story, fuck Josh Beckett, but we're gonna knock him out here and knock around Papelbon, score 7 runs this inning, and Borowski will close it out. An hour from now we'll be in all caps, pounding beers Garko style, and wondering what the fuck we were worrying about all game.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Cocky, Arrogant, Great in the post season vs
Humpty Dumpty, Lefty, blows chunks.

I am sorry but I would take Beckett on my team any day. I am not upset with him, he is just good.

Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Hey, at least Rutgers just won to bump out USF...good news for OSU, I guess???

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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I feel dirty. And I'm back. And I'm drunk. And Sad. And I'm happy that we've got Fausto.

by gte619n on Oct 18, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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...and remember how bad we all wanted Kevin Millwood back a few years ago.

by tborish on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Whoops, our brilliant plan to knock Beckett out of the game has apparently not worked.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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Turned off the TV.  Our season depends on Westbrook, because I am positive Fausto will choke tomorrow as well.

by indio on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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He can choke tomorrow all he wants, as long as he can still pitch on Saturday.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Right.  Since Fausto's been so terrible all year long.

Seriously, what's with all the negativity by (some) people?

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, just like CC has been so terrific all year long so we can expect 3 stellar starts from him.  Well, our ace ended up choking big time twice.

As we've been saying, the regular season means nothing.  Fausto will choke as well in the confines of Boston, where he seemed scared.

But I'm optimistic!  Westbrook will pull through in Game 7!!

by indio on Oct 18, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh, now I see . . .
Great regular season pitcher = Terrible postseason pitcher.  
Average regular season pitcher = Fantastic postseason pitcher.  

You're the first one to realize this trend.  What a genius!!

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 18, 2007 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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No, dude.  In spite of the great regular seasons both have had, what does that mean in the postseason?  Just like our losing record against the Sox and NY meant nothing.  Our two aces are choking in the postseason.  Doesn't matter if they were stellar in the regular season.

Ok, contrarian genius?

But I forgot that Schilling is pitching.  We will get to him again, so we just need Fausto to get us to the 5th.  

by indio on Oct 18, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You're right, I forgot about Fausto "choking" against the Yankees when he pitched 9 innings and gave up 1 run.  He clearly sucks in the postseason.  

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 19, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

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this comeback win is going to be epic.

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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I agree with GFP, the worst thing they can do now is to pull Beckett for anyone.  It's a different game
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'm ALMOST more upset that we have to listen to more Beckett fellating.

by gte619n on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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Just another reason I ditched the national broadcaster during the ALDS. The local guy give the oppostion credit but don't act like they are the second coming.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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According to his reputed mad lady skillz, it may be the only fellating he gets tonight.

by emd2k3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Grady, you're killing me swinging at the first pitch. I mean, you're down 6 fucking runs, dude. 6 fucking runs, and you swing at the first pitch?
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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in a 5 run game, a lot of times the first pitch is the best one you'll see. especially if it's called strike one
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Wave those pom-poms, tim!
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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Cincinnati has gone fucking dark... the Fox station is experiencing technical difficulties.... worst. tv station. ever.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 18, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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I already hate Ellsbury because he wears one long sleeve. Fuck Jacoby Ellsbury.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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Fausto will be alright in game 6 to close it out.

by emd2k3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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So, am I the only one that thinks Fausto should paint his sock with sheep's blood and mock Schilling?

by gte619n on Oct 18, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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I hear Jhohn Adams for the first time tonight.  Omen?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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CC isn't a big time pitcher, overthrows the entire time trying to reach 100 mph on the gun. Tight as shit.

Hafner needs to be moved down in the lineup. He's a black hole at 3 right now, and I'd rather get his ABs to someone who has a clue at the plate.

by emd2k3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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hmm..ump wants to get to bed.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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What did Danielle Peck ever see in him???  He's great on the mound, but c'mon.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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Hahahaahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha I love the corner Beckett gets, man he sure looks like the Cy Young when he gets calls off the plate all game.

$10 says Pronk hits a solo HR.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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We're all getting so depressed.

C'mon guys.  Two more games, including one with our best. fucking. pitcher. tomorrow night.

Keep your head up.  They had to win one (...or two total, really).

Listening to games from work in Iowa...not fun.

by DisplacedBuckeye on Oct 18, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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Are you kidding me? I'm laughing my ass off.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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yeah, it sucks that we look headed for Fenway but I still totally like our chances.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Hate to say it, but King Henry's bishop still has the slider bending for him.
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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Would anyone be upset if Pronk hit a linedrive right into Becketts face? I know no one in my house would be.

by ASP on Oct 18, 2007 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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Why is it that everone could easily, sanely, and confidently say "this is going to 6 or 7" before it all began, and then when something happens to make it go 6 or 7 everyone loses it?

Do you not realize how many lucky breaks, seeing-eye grounders, sox hangers, balls hit right to tribe fielders, and other assorted things that lead to the tribe's wins in games 2, 3, and 4?

Sometimes the decisions and bounces go your way, sometimes they don't.  Tonight they didn't -- against Beckett of all people, imagine that.

Trouble with CC?  Uh, we're all aware.
Nervous about heading back to Boston? I'd say.
Worried about Raffy L's head, the pressure on Carmona, and Hafner's swing? check.  check. check.

This is post-season baseball.  Get over it.  And get ready for Game 6.

Asdrubal: Spanish form of "Hasdrubal". Means "Ba'al helps" from Phoenician azru "help" combined with the name of the god BA'AL.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'm not surprised this would go 6 or 7. It's hard to believe you could take 4 out of 5 from a team who also won 96 games.

I just wish CC wouldn't (almost) shit the bed in every postseason start.

by emd2k3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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thanks for that....im trying my best to keep my head positive, i just cant stand the media for the next days....thats what gets me so negative...

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Your TV has an off button.

by mkwng @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 18, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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think of how much more productive you'll be tomorrow.  the media-blackout following game 1 was almost a welcome respite for me.
Asdrubal: Spanish form of "Hasdrubal". Means "Ba'al helps" from Phoenician azru "help" combined with the name of the god BA'AL.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 18, 2007 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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who thinks beckett will strike out hafner with a curve ball in the dirt??

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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swinging or looking?  both possible.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Jeremy Sowers is rattled!
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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Why didn't Kenny fight him and try to get him thrown out or hurt?

by emd2k3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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I know I'm late to the posting, but does Beckett's facial hair really bother anybody else?

by gte619n on Oct 18, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

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Aside from Zappa fans trying to grow a chin, it's probably not too noticeable
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I miss Frank!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Frankie played a lot of his best music in NYC...
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Thought that about the second inning.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yes.  It creeps me out a little.

by Rachie on Oct 18, 2007 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

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aside from all the Herb Score flashbacks, not a problem...
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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shit i thought that was through. good thing no one took me up on that bet.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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I find it hilarious that some of you haven't posted in weeks, yet here's a loss brewing and VOILA YOU'RE BACK. If you insist of being fucking depressing tonight, get the fuck lost. Cuz I'm already depressed. And trying to cheer myself up. We're winning Saturday. Tell me I'm wrong and I will fight you.

LGT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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if i see him, i will fight him...  -t rizzo
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh, jeez, Mario, are you drinking? It makes it a lot more amusing. By all rights I should be in full-on, all-caps, panicking-the-fuck-out-mode, but I'm seriously laughing my ass off, even if Wedge didn't really have his best game managing, Beckett got balls called strikes all game, the hitting was non-existent, and CC was Meh.

Grady has looked slow in the OF today. He might be throwing the series.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Honestly I'm still on a high from Game 4. Saturday will probably hit me hard.

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Game 4 I was almost catatonic. Today I was up and we didn't play very well.

I don't know anymore.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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too far gone for me to be LMAO
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I've been working until 9pm this week, w/a 45min to 1 hr commute.  I've "seen" most of this series by way of Tom Hamilton on the way home.  Not that that's a bad thing.  When they've been winning, I didn't want to disrupt stuff.

PBR me now, though

How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Say goodnight Pronk!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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hey everyone, look on the bright side: taco bell has added chilli to their arsenal!

i'm looking forward to 5 years of "chilli-changas", "chillitos", and "chilli supreme tacos".

see, it ain't all bad.

Asdrubal: Spanish form of "Hasdrubal". Means "Ba'al helps" from Phoenician azru "help" combined with the name of the god BA'AL.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 18, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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Haha.  That's just what Taco Bell food needs - chili!

by Rachie on Oct 18, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I;m not looking forward to working in the cubicle next to a Taco Bell junkie for the next 5 years
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
okay we still have 3 outs, maybe will pull one like we did against the tigers...

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
OK, Beckett's great, but does ANYONE think Boston's pitching sans Beckett can stop us in game 6 and 7?

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
A team cannot get to the World Series with just one reliable starting pitcher, even if he will beat CC for the Cy.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Big Game Beckett vs Small Anus Sabathia.

Game 5 to the Sox

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
LAFFEY THROWING
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
does JD drew actually cares about baseball or playing, he plays with the smallest intensity ever, just looking to make money, i just find that really depressing, considering a guy that has alot of talent...

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
The kid who was playing CF for FSU would win a fight against the man on Boston's roster - and it wouldn't even be close.
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
BRING IN PAPELBON INTO A NON-SAVE SITUATION. I DARE YOU FRANCONA.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I am swearing off Fox for the rest of the series. How is it harder for the Tribe to win one game than it is for the Sox to win two?
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 18, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
They have ignored simple facts:

Tribe vs. Beckett: 0-2
Tribe vs. any other Boston starter not named Beckett: 3-0

I like our chances just fine.

by kuzzy on Oct 18, 2007 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
agree (except MAYBE for conceding tonight).  And we split 2 games in Fenway before, doing it again gives us the pennant.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
anyone else notice that mastny has the least-imposing demeanor on the mound of any indian in recent memory.

he's a decent enough back-end guy, but he just seems to have a lost and confused look on his face.

Asdrubal: Spanish form of "Hasdrubal". Means "Ba'al helps" from Phoenician azru "help" combined with the name of the god BA'AL.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 18, 2007 11:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
You mean aside from Jeremy Sowers?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Nice play Mastny. 6 RUNS PEOPLE, ENTIRELY DOABLE
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I like your attitude.  We got 7 against them before, twice this series, so 6 we can do.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
papelbon doesnt bring anything...hes wack...lol

by luifer5 on Oct 18, 2007 11:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Tom Mastny with 4.2 IP of scoreless ball this series.

Raffy P with 5 runs allowed in 0.2 IP.

?

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Iiiiiiiiiiiit's Pimplebutt.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 18, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
OK, let's touch up this fucker for 8 runs.

by doowop on Oct 18, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
More Joe Torre.  That's the real story here.

by sullidav on Oct 18, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
well Mastny wasent thaaat baaad

by Taquito on Oct 18, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
i hear the yankees made joe an offer.  anyone hear whether or not he said yes?

by emil minty on Oct 18, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
He turned them down, according to ESPN
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I think you got the above two to bite.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 18, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Did I say I only get home at about 10pm?  Fox must have been all over the story... knowing them, on every half inning before I got home
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
The offer was only for one year
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
JOE TORRE TURNED DOWN AN OFFER?!?! WTF?!?! TELL ME MORE.

PAPELBON = DOUCHE.

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
let's have a live blogging thread about Joe Torre here.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
i think he may have turned down the yankees offer.

by emil minty on Oct 19, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Hope he goes the Casey Stengel route and goes to work for the Mets, so he can torture the Yankees organization for the next 10 years - no offense to Willie Randolph
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Here's the Butterfly (Pappilon?)
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 18, 2007 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I think this is the first French joke on LGT since I dubbed Byrd Pie "tourtiere".

by supermarioelia on Oct 18, 2007 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
It was a good movie, too - n'est ce pas?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Would like to ding him for at least a run.

by Spidey on Oct 18, 2007 11:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
why do they ALWAYS comment on Papperbond's "Death Stare"
hes got a 5 year old's face, how is that scary at all?!

by Taquito on Oct 19, 2007 12:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
ok. Somebody tell me you got that on your Tivo.

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
i forgot what i was going to post.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 19, 2007 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
That was Sean Salisbury, wasn't it?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Conan O'Brien said he would pay $1,000 to Buck's charity of choice if he said "Jub Jub" in the broadcast.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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AHAHAH DID THAT GUY JUST SAY PAPPELBON IS A BEAUTY?! what the fuck!?

by Taquito on Oct 19, 2007 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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Papelbon's a douche. There really is no one likeable on this Red Sox team. Maybe Alex Cora.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
And we have a hit!
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
It's going to feel like one hundred years between now and Saturday evening.

No TV, Radio, Internet or Newspaper for me between now and then.

Well... maybe I'll stop here a few times.

by doowop on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Tell me about it. If we lose it will be hard to ignore the pro-Red Sox media onslaught

by kuzzy on Oct 19, 2007 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
OH. YEAH.

Uh. I shaved my playoff beard yesterday, guys. It came in handy last night, but, uh, yeah, I shaved my playoff beard.

I shaved my playoff beard.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
you better hope it grows quick between now and saturday... mine is still going strong... you ass.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2007 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I didn't shave it for a female, I shaved it for a school event that I had to be presentable for. But yeah, I am real fucking mad at myself for it.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 19, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
was the school event somewhere in the Greater Cleveland area?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Uh, Iowa City, Iowa.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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OK, you get a pass.  I probably would have gotten away without shaving as long as I wore an Indians polo on non-game days and a replica jersey or a batting practice shirt w/ Chief Wahoo crest on game day
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Give my regards to the Bob Feller museum in Van Meter, if and when you're in the area.  The closest I got was I-80, crawling past in an orange rig...
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

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did anyone see the guy rocking the charlie chinesque  glasses in major league in the crowd?
badass.

by Taquito on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Good Garko.  Guess the death stare doesn't always work.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

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i just thought of one good thing about this series going back to boston.  WTAM has had the radio synced up to teh TV action for road games, but the delay for home games is still like 5 seconds.  if we are to win this series in Fenway, i dont have to listen to these jackasses, i get to hear hammy call it live, in time with what i see on the screen

by mpstable on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
too bad that doesn't work for Browns games
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Let's get a fucking rally going!

by kuzzy on Oct 19, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
If you were forced to sit down and have a beer with a member of this Red Sox team, who would you go with?

I'd go with JD Drew, because he'd be buying and wouldn't give a FUCK.

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Youk cause he looks like he fled the Hells Angels.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Manny, as long as he didn't hit me up for money
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

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or stick his hands up in the air when he finished his beer, and slowly walk away.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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he would only do that if I bought, and the visual on that would be worth the price of even a pint of the Great Lakes seasonal on tap...
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Need about seven more in a row
to break out the champagne.

I would love to now who our WS opponent is

by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 19, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Need about seven more in a row
The Bears.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Need about seven more in a row
Not to critique anyone's grammar (I hear that's taboo) but -- "now" who?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

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HEY
HEY HEY
LET'S GO TRIBE
--
"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

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...on two outs. My, that would rock.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I hope Lofton hits a home run and stares at it for 20 seconds.

by Ryan Kelsey on Oct 19, 2007 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
It's official. I hate boston more than the yankees.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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that zone has been huge for boston's pitchers, fucking a

by Taquito on Oct 19, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
lol that pitch is still not a strike.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 19, 2007 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
got that right.  what can you do?

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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WTF was that clip awhile ago showing freaking Pimplebutt dancing like a .... I don't know what....I mean that is the kind of crap you might see if NESN was carrying the game....and FOX seems to think it is inevitable that the Red Sox are gonna win the series now....I am officially hating FOX more than the Red Sox or Yankees....

by razzpunk on Oct 19, 2007 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
you were really expecting professionalism from fox?
plllllease

by Taquito on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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butterfly?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Walk on!
--
"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
wow, the Kenny flip WITH SOME AUTHORITY.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
id still like to see lofton ripping someones head off with his bat,bu thats just me

by Taquito on Oct 19, 2007 12:09 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
ESPN is all Boston Red Sox right now.

Uncanny.

by emd2k3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

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who'd'a thought?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Ballgame.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

I as sit in the Coors Field stands on Monday nite
I remember how I begged for the Rocks to win it with me there and how cool it was.

I feel sorry for the fans at the Jake as I know how they felt and they must be disappointed huge.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 19, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: I as sit in the Coors Field...
Boy, if this is what we have to look forward to next week, I'm bringing my whack-a-mole mallet.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Coors Field Monday nite
say hi to Rizz over the air for me, Hammer.
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

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ok.  see ya saturday.  and boston has no other starting pitcher worth shit.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
We haven't lost 2 in a row yet this postseason, so time to buckle up and send Red Sox Nation packing this weekend.

by kuzzy on Oct 19, 2007 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
It was nice of us to let Papelbon get some work since he won't be needed for any more saves.

by emd2k3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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Well FOX and ESPN you got your wish tonight, a Red Sox win...but guess what....it is FAUSTO time baby! I am so glad I do not listen to the FOX announcers spread their love all over Red Sox Nation....winning it on Saturday!

by razzpunk on Oct 19, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
good night guys, tough loss but Beckett has been too GOOD, so whatever, Carmona is gonna step up(hopefully), if we beat the yankees in the house the Ruth built, we can kill the sox in their own house...

by luifer5 on Oct 19, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
BTW, I'm 100% sure I could kick the shit out of Youkilis. Seriously, if I ever run into this guy at a bar, it's over.

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Fausto will be ready...the new ace of the staff!!!!

by razzpunk on Oct 19, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

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so, going back to Jay's original GDT post, I'm assuming Boston has only clinched twice in Fenway?

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Greek God of Walk-----ing into my fist!

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Goodnight, Youkilis... your day is near

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Youkilis = Missing link. Gorilla body, big head, little brain. It would be totally laughable if he weren't out there trying to beat us with his club. And somewhat doing it.

Silence him and that punk Ramirez in Boston Go Tribe!

Quite possibly the only Tribe fan to have lived in Nome, Alaska

by ghost of omar on Oct 19, 2007 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I challenge Kevin Youkilis to a cage fight tomorrow. You name the place, pussy.

by gte619n on Oct 19, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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Goodnight and let's do this again Saturday this time with a Tribe win.

by kuzzy on Oct 19, 2007 12:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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hear hear.  thanks for tolerating my adversely-bourbon-influenced postings.  let's go tribe!

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I'm gonna be honest..I'm slightly panicking. And by slightly, I mean, nearly severely.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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I'm only gonna be worried if Curt Schilling cuts his ankle while shaving.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
From our friends at "The Onion": [ttp://www.theonion.com/content/from_print/curt_schilling_inexplicably]
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Really? I'm laughing my ass off.

Though I am sort of worried I've pulled a Rick Vaughn and abandoned the Indians for a female (by shaving my beard).

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 19, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Dude, you're winning. Even Sox fans aren't this neurotic. Calm down. Breathe. And we'll see you Saturday.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 19, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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a lifetime of watching losing teams really gives me no other way to look at things. It's the only way I know. FREE ME, FAUSTO.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
It could be worse. You could be a Cubs fan. :)

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 19, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Wedge can earn his salary if he can get the team in the right frame of mind for Saturday.  

The Indians were saying they didn't want to head back to Boston.  Manny said the series is no big deal.  Guess which team was looser?

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
the team with veterans. overall talent almost always wins out over the stretch of 3 days, though
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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don't want to jinx the team, but I like the chances from here on out, when you look at the pitching staffs available from here on out, and the overall offense and defense from here on out.  Again, to quote one of my favorite movies, "a fight is rounds"
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
here's a little game for the panic prone:

pretend bryd got shelled last night and cc pitched a perfect game tonight.

series is still 3-2 only you're not freaking out.

by Brick. on Oct 19, 2007 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Wedge said he was looking forward to the weekend by bringing CC out for the 7th.  He didn't want to use Betancourt for 2 innings and didn't want to use 3 relievers in the 7th.

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
C.C. looked awfully winded in the 6th, didn't he?

Why not bring in Betancourt, Lewis, Perez, or Mastny in the 7th, 8th, and 9th?

Probably wouldn't have mattered much. Beckett pitched an excellent game.

by ploni on Oct 19, 2007 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

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when has Grady had a worse night in the field?

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:34 AM EDT reply actions  

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has anyone here watched his 5 year old tee ball team?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

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just grasping at straws on that guess as to the last time he didn't catch a fly ball he got leather on...
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I thought that was Gootz's ball originally.

Grady covered a lot of ground to get close to that one.

by emd2k3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Come to think of it, it -was- way out there in right field.  Thought Gutz was faster than that.
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

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even if he was protecting the 1B line
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was a toss-up because the ball originally
was headed to CF, but had some slice to it, making it closer to Gutz, but by the time he started closing in on it, Grady was already running towards him, which essentially made it impossible for Gutz to close in on that ball.

Unfortunately, Gutz's presence nearby caused Grady to hesitate for a second, and that in my opinion was the difference between him catching that ball and that ball going off his glove for a 3B.

If that ball is caught, we likely are down no worse than 3-1 (maybe 2-1 if we strand Pedroia at 3B.)  Who knows how the game turns out from there.

Come on Indians - bounce back and take Game 6!  Go Tribe!

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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no, a lot of people would have been freaking out earlier because the series would have been guaranteed to go back to Fenway then
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
meant this as a response to sbricker...
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Gotta give it up to Beckett.

Opposing fans are getting cocky with this back to Fenway! business.  

It's just another fucking ballpark, and both teams have to play in it.

by homelytourist on Oct 19, 2007 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
indians.com calls CC's outing a return to form

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

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(insert pithy E5 post here)
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Beckett was a BMW tonight, CC a Pontiac Aztec.

by homelytourist on Oct 19, 2007 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

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CC is more like a 1973 Chrysler New Yorker.

A land yacht.

by emd2k3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

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heh heh.  I can picture him in one of those.

Already feeling better.

by homelytourist on Oct 19, 2007 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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No, I gotta disagree with where this thread is going.  Give CC more credit than this, and look at the game standing on it's own.  Looking at this game in it's own light, without considering the last two games CC started, an objective voice would say that he gutted it out and put his team in a position to win -- against the best pitcher on the opposing staff.  Isn't that what you ask for from the ace of your staff, on any given start?
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I understand your point, but...
I think more expected us for CC to be the dominating self he's shown he can be on numerous occasions this season, especially given the circumstances tonight.

Hello Casey,

Like I said, I think CC's outing in Game 5 was better than it was in Game 1, and he DID give us a reasonable chance to win this game, but I still think it was a tad disappointing in the sense that he didn't have many easy innings, as he only retired the Red Sox in order once (in the 6th - Varitek/Crisp/Lugo.)

Admittedly, I think we all knew CC would have to be on the top of his game to match or beat Beckett, and while he was better, he still wasn't at Beckett's level, which is what I think most of us were hoping for.

In CC's defense, however, I thought Wedge should have taken CC out after 6 IP, especially since he had his first 1-2-3 inning (finish on a high note) and was over 100 pitches.  I would have gone with Lewis, especially with Pedroia and Youkilis up - then, if you wanted to bring in Perez to face Ortiz, that's what I would have done.  Too often in this game, the Red Sox were hitting the ball the other way off CC, and that might be one minor complaint I had with CC's pitching - he didn't seem to come inside enough to knock hitters off the plate.  I know I would try to knock Manny off the plate to make him less comfortable against CC.

So, while I think CC did a reasonable/manageable job to give us a chance to win this game, I still thought and hoped he would do better (i.e. dominate more and be closer to matching Beckett.)

I admit, I probably had my expectations a bit too high - while I'm a bit disappointed with CC's outing, and moreso, the result of the game, I'm more disappointed that Pronk's bat has disappeared again, and sabotaged our best chance to do major damage against Beckett - if we put 2-3+ runs on the board, who knows if Beckett settles in like he did, and Victor did get a hit after that DP, so Beckett was ripe for a big inning if Hafner gets a hit, a walk, even a sacrifice fly.  Arguably, that might have been the most disappointing part of this night - wasting a chance to get to Beckett for a big inning early.  That too might have helped CC settle in and have a more dominating outing if he had had an early lead to work with.

Just my 2 cents - no offense.  

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Problem is that he wasn't good.  He was lucky, and he got hitters to get themselves out.  He was off his game all night, his pitch count was way up, and a guy with his numbers and stuff shouldn't be waiting for Julio Lugo or Coco Crisp to hit into a double-plays with the bases loaded.

And there's no reason to look at this game in a vacuum for C.C.'s benefit any more than there is to look at one good Trot Nixon game in a vacuum.  If you play poorly in a game, that's bad; if you string together multiple games playing poorly, that's worse.  And he's stunk in 3 out of 3 postseason starts.

by maledicta on Oct 19, 2007 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed - he's arguably been the worst
Indians' starter in the postseason; Carmona is 1/2 in dominating starts, and while Westbrook and Byrd won't wow you with stuff, they did a better job containing this Red Sox lineup than Sabathia did.  

What really disappointed me about Sabathia's outing were:

  1. He didn't pitch inside enough and knock them off the plate (especially Manny, who seems to own Sabathia); that's why guys like Pedroia and Kielty were able to go the other way on him so easily.

  2. He still seemed to overthrow at times - while his extra velocity (even reaching 99 on at least one pitch) did help to get the Red Sox out upstairs, it seems to me he's getting away from what made him successful and a Cy Young candidate this year.  It's disappointing because Sabathia just watched Westbrook and Byrd use pinpoint velocity and average to slightly above-average velocity to shut down this Red Sox lineup.

Sabathia, without overthrowing, would still have more velocity on his pitches than Byrd or Westbrook (I'd say 92-94, maybe 95 MPH, without overthrowing) - if he just locates it and pitches inside a little more frequently, I can't see why he couldn't have put up an outing more similar to Beckett's, and really, fairly or unfairly, that's what you expect from your ace who's an experienced pitcher and who had his best season of his career by utilizing that formula.

To me, it seemed like Sabathia still was going away from that formula, not doing enough of the things he did during the regular season in this start tonight.  I don't recall Sabathia overthrowing in his 1-0 shutout loss to the Red Sox in July - to me, I still think the postseason atmosphere and his matchup with opposing Cy Young candidate Josh Beckett was still playing a bit on Sabathia, where Sabathia tried to match him in the same fashion, but couldn't because Sabathia doesn't really dominate in the same fashion - Beckett dominates with a lot of Ks; CC dominates more by getting opponents to mishit the ball, along with a few Ks.

Like I said, it was a decent outing by Sabathia and a better performance than in Game 1, but still came up a little short in terms of what I thought he would do tonight.

Just my 2 cents - no offense.

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

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My remarks were a play on the issue of form, introduced in the WTAM line from palcal.

Meaning, he looked like a clunker even if it does a few things right, much like the Aztec.  

Beckett impressed the hell out of me.

Can't wait to see what Carmona brings Saturday, though.  

by homelytourist on Oct 19, 2007 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I'm more concerned about Perez than I am CC.
Quite possibly the only Tribe fan to have lived in Nome, Alaska

by ghost of omar on Oct 19, 2007 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I personally thought CC would do more, and
so did the AP recap, as they called Sabathia's outing "sub-par."

In my opinion, CC "managed," to moreless contain the Red Sox, but didn't "dominate" them like I think many thought he would on this night.  

Sabathia is now 0/3 in dominating starts, while Carmona is 1/2.  Even Westbrook and Byrd have contained the Red Sox better than Sabathia has, and Byrd also held the Yankees in check in Game 4 of the ALDS, albeit giving up a lot of baserunners.  That has to be a little concerning going forward in regards to Sabathia delivering when the stakes are this high.  Let's hope he gets another shot in the WS and can deliver a dominating performance or two.

Just my 2 cents.

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I personally thought CC would do more, and
Again, not to defend CC's other post-season starts, but this was a team effort, against the only pitcher in baseball to consistently beat them this year.  On this night, they looked brutal as a team, but from here on out through November, I like their chances.
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Like I said, I don't think CC himself is solely
to blame - I'm most disappointed in Hafner's lack of production and lack of quality of ABs, striking out 4 times in a game started by a knuckleballer and sabotaging a potential big inning with a poor AB (chasing that low curveball - I think that was the pitch) and DP against a pitcher he's had success against in the past, along with 2 more Ks.

So, I agree CC wasn't the only one to not perform up to expectations tonight.  

I hope they bounce back strong in Game 6 and win the ALCS - go Tribe!  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Harold Reynolds says Peralta was telegraphing CC's pitches

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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Harold Reynolds was also just hitting on your mom.

by emd2k3 on Oct 19, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Harold was a poor substitute for the guy on WGN before him, and none of them measured up to Steve Stone or Harry Carey
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I am not going to go all negative.  I am looking for to Fausto v. the Bloody Sock.

But that doesn't mean I have to act like this one didn't hurt, does it?

Just once, God, just once, I'd like to see my team dancing on the home field.

by JamesPowell on Oct 19, 2007 12:46 AM EDT reply actions  

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Well that sucked.
Dealing with it.

by Brad D on Oct 19, 2007 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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F*uck it.  Let's go Bowling.

by homelytourist on Oct 19, 2007 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thoughts on Game 5!
Hello everyone,

Disappointing loss tonight - I was hopeful CC would come out with a dominating performance and match or outdo Beckett.  Though CC was better than he was in Game 1, I still thought he'd be a little more dominating than he was; I was hopeful he'd get through that 1st inning 1-2-3, but that didn't happen, and was fortunate to get through it with just 1 run scored.  Sabathia more managed than dominated, which did give us a chance to win, but I think most of us probably thought he would go out and finally give us a dominating performance like you'd expect an ace to give you this time of year, especially after he hadn't done that in his previous 2 postseason outings.

Personally, I would have taken CC out after 6 innings and had gone to the bullpen (Lewis probably would have been my choice); I thought Wedge was going to go to the bullpen to start the 7th, since CC was over 100 pitches and didn't have many easy innings, but didn't - unfortunately, in this instance, Wedge sticking longer with CC backfired, as Pedroia got that inning started.

As for the Indians' offense, they had a few chances against Beckett, but couldn't fully capitalize.  I think the biggest blow was in the 1st inning when Hafner hit into the DP, which scored a run, but really took the chance of a big inning out of play.  If he gets a hit there (anywhere from a single to a 3-run HR) or even a walk, who knows how the rest of the night goes.  

Arguably, his disappearance from this series has been really disappointing - by his play, I wouldn't even be sure he had played in any games other than Game 1 when he hit that HR off Beckett, being that's he only had 2 hits since that HR in Game 1.

Sizemore had also disappeared in this series to a lesser extent, though he bounced back offensively tonight.  Unfortunately, his hesitation on that play in the OF was really costly, as I think he would have come up with that ball otherwise.  One of my friends thought Gutz should have gone more for that ball, but that would be hard to do if Sizemore is coming right at you and it seemed Sizemore had a beat on it, but noticed Gutierrez out of the corner of his eye and hesitated - if he wouldn't have hesitated, I think he makes that catch.  Then, at most, Boston probably only gets 1 run, and 3-1 would have been more manageable than 4-1.

It also seems to me that Wedge was almost thinking ahead in this series by putting Perez in there in the 8th inning, instead of letting Betancourt go one more inning - while Perez has been good throughout the season, he hasn't been quite as good in the postseason and really hasn't been used much against Boston, being that they've hit LHP better than RHP.  I'm thinking Wedge wanted to give Lewis and Mastny some work in case they're needed later in this series, as not using them today would have meant two more days off, and those two haven't been getting much work of late.

While it's disappointing to not finish it off at home, this series is far from over and far from a Boston victory; we just have to have confidence in the staff getting the players ready for Game 6, which I think they will.  And while Schilling has "big-game experience," he's not Beckett in terms of stuff anymore.  And hopefully, Carmona will give us the dominating performance that Sabathia, in my opinion, failed to do.  

Just my 2 cents.  

Keep the faith and go Indians!  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 12:50 AM EDT reply actions  

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Too late to read that but yeah, GO TRIBE GO

by homelytourist on Oct 19, 2007 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just trying to vent some frustration in a nice
way!  :-)

Hopefully, the Indians bounce back in Game 6 - it'd be nice to do some early damage to Curt Schilling and company.

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Game 5!
Wedge did say (see above) that his use of CC in the 7th was because he was looking forward to the weekend.

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Game 5!
Yeah, I watched the game too. Thanks.

by 48FAN on Oct 19, 2007 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Game 5!
I'm not getting worried unless they force a Game 7. While I suppose they could start Matsuzaka, I'd be seriously considering Lester, especially since he is the one guy aside from Beckett who has been able to keep us down.

Of course, none of that really matters if we can chuck these guys into Boston harbor on Saturday night. :-)

LET'S GO TRIBE!

BURN DOWN BEANTOWN!

--
"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen

by vbc3 on Oct 19, 2007 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Thoughts on Game 5!
Who knows, there's speculation that they could start Wakefield if it comes to a game 7
How come... we would all love to see Bob Feller show up at a Cavs game wearing a Detroit Pistons hat? --Les Levine

by Casey Jones on Oct 19, 2007 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

And even Lester is only 1/2 in shutting us down,
as he was the pitcher who was in the middle of that 7-run outburst we had in Boston (including the 3-run HR by Gutierrez,) so while he might be a better choice than Matsuzaka or Wakefield, he's still not Beckett, who's 2/2 in shutting us down.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

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indians.com was satisfied with CC's performance;
Pronk and Grady has more to do with the loss

by palcal on Oct 19, 2007 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I agree Pronk & Grady were big factors in this
game for the wrong reasons - Pronk because he's been non-existant (including striking out 4 times in a start by Wakefield,) and because Grady hesitated on that one ball.  

At least Grady's bat came alive a bit in Game 5 - his bat had been nonexistent since Game 2 as well.

Let's hope we can end it on Saturday - go Tribe!  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 1:05 AM EDT reply actions  

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But MVP of game was clearly (based on Fox broadcast) Joe Torre.  The game was really all about him, start to finish.  It was as if there was nobody else on the field, Joe Torre was so dominant, inning after inning.

by sullidav on Oct 19, 2007 1:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Ahh, so it was Joe Torre we couldn't hit,
not Beckett, right?  :-)

I know - I think FOX almost forgot that there was a big postseason game being played without the Yankees.

And also, why did FOX have to go on about Torre and what happened earlier in the series with their pregame discussion?  Couldn't they have shown Scott Hamilton throwing out the first pitch and Danielle Peck throwing out the first pitch?  

I can't believe they no longer show that, before a postseason game, no less.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Whoops - I meant Peck singing the National
Anthem - sorry about that!  :-)
Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Oct 19, 2007 2:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I like our chances. 1-1 at Fenway, 1-0 when it's Fausto -vs- Schilling, Schilling's proven hitable, Fausto's proven he can do better, and our lefties can pound balls over that street curb they call the right field wall when they get a pitch they like. :)

by Delluccious on Oct 19, 2007 2:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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Who can root for these Sox?  How can you LIKE Manny, Ortiz and Beckett?

by Rusnakjd @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 19, 2007 5:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
this is a very very good question.

by hans on Oct 19, 2007 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Don't stop there.

Pedroia - douchebag.
Drew - overpaid, undercaring.
Lugo - see Drew
Papelbon - douchebag.
Schilling - loud, obnoxious, just not very good
Dicek - shimmy makes the women in Cleveland puke.
Youkilis - douchebag.
Ellsbury - wears one long sleeve, one short sleeve. Douchebag.

The team is very, very hateable.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Lugo is a wife beater also.  

It's always shocking to me that so many people cannot mention guys like Bonds (and in the case of RoyalsReview, can't bring up Rafi B) without mentioning steroids, but domestic violence just gets forgotten.

by mpstable on Oct 19, 2007 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Well that was not our best effort - we're saving that for Saturday.  Everybody - including Grady and Pronk - take a deep breath and let's go get 'em Saturday.

GO TRIBE!

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Oct 19, 2007 8:11 AM EDT reply actions  

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What happened to the "Things I Know" diary?

by JulioBernazard on Oct 19, 2007 8:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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A great number of posters on here call the Red Sox classless but what the Indians did was equally classless and just stupid.  I don't think Beckett give one darn about the situation and if anything just motivated him to punch us in the mouth.

Few things from last nights game.

C.C clearly wasn't pitching like an Ace last night and Wedge stayed with him way to long.  This seemed to be because he wanted to see if C.C could straighten himself out which he never did.  It also seems like he was protecting his ego but in playoff games ego's don't mean anything you go with the best you have right now not later.  If they had taken out C.C would have the won last night most likely not but who knows.  It seems to me that the hitters tightened up with C.C on the mound because they knew he didn't have it and they would have to do more to win the game.  

I think C.C has lost his teams confidence and it is negatively affecting the team as a whole.  I am not going to lie I am a bit worried about the Red Sox, as I mentioned earlier some posters on here call them classless but what they really are is gritty and confident.  I think Carmona is going to pitch much better in game 6 but he does need to start working both sides of the plate.  The comments from John Farrel were very telling about the story with Carmona.  The inside information that Farrel has on C.C and Carmona has  played to the Red Sox advantage.  

As far as my earlier comments about C.C being out of shape and not having a proper diet I stay with that.   Until he fully commits to a lifestyle change of a good diet and work out routine he will continue to have trouble with fastball command.  His mechanics start to fail as the game wears on and that is a direct result of a poor fitness levels.  C.C is in better shape then the average male in the country but he would be considered to be in the bottom 10% of professional baseball players.  Secondly, even if he work out hard it would be meaningless if he doesn't have a proper diet.  Nutrition or the lack of good nutrition will severely affect his abilities on the mound.  

Thirdly the personal attack on me are unwarranted.  I am a Indians fan through and through but when I see something I am going to point it out.  Because of my background and training I can see things others can not and understand how thing evolve over time.  I strongly believe in physical fitness and it unnerves me when professional athletes like C.C can not maintain a healthy fitness level.  You don't become over weight by chance.  You have to work at being in shape but it doesn't take anything to become over weight.  I know things about nutrition and how your bacteria in your digestive system affect your weight and health.  C.C is not only damaging his career he is also threating his personal health.  If any one would like to have a long and thought out discussion about nutrition/fitness and how not to become overweight I can certainly provide you with the information.

Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 19, 2007 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Dude you need to chill.  

As to the physical fitness stuff - here's a news flash: not all successful pro athletes are physical fitness fanatics.  You'd be shocked - shocked - to see how many smoke for chrissakes.  Not all of them are out doing 10K's between games.  It's baseball dude - baseball not the Boston Marathon.  No, CC's problems have more to do with pitch selection and location than physical fitness.

And one more thing - as one of my old coach's usta say - there's plenty of guys out there who look like Tarzan and play like Jane.  

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Oct 19, 2007 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Your return had been going SO well too. I'd actually started to enjoy your input. Not sure what happened to you in the last couple of days but something switched. And please don't blame it on the fact that you're being critical and that we can't handle that. It's the repetition and extremes that irk me.

by supermarioelia on Oct 19, 2007 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Based on this I would say the team is not being negatively affected as a whole.  

I could understand your frustration on leaving CC in if it was a close game - but it wasn't.  This is what Wedge does - he's managing to win 1 of the next 3 games, knowing that's it's not easy to beat the Sox 4 in a row.  Plus with the way Beckett was pitching, the offense wasn't going to pick CC up anyway.

by Rachie on Oct 19, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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His ex girlfriend is a local celebrity singer. They didn't plan it to mess with his head, nor did they (nor I doubt most of us) really know who the hell these guys date. He's a douchebag becuase he acts like and sounds like a douchebag. completely unnecessary use of a "f" bomb. I'm pretty sure if I am being interviewed by a reporter I would respond with a little respect. christ. I repeat he is a douchebag.

by hans on Oct 19, 2007 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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E5, you have been out of line.

I don't think anybody is saying you shouldn't point things out -- so you can stop that lame defense.  You made the same points about C.C. and Wedge literally ten times last night.  We can debate whether you were over-reacting in terms of your opinions, but at some point the sheer repetition crosses the line into trolling.

On this site, we expect everyone to maintain some minimum level of self-awareness about stuff like that, even in the heat of frustration during a game.  You know damned well that you've already said the same thing ten times when you post it for the 11th time -- and at that point, you're just indulging yourself at the expense of antagonizing everyone else.  You need to accept that that's not a reasonable way to behave here and resolve to do better in the future.

Whatever your knowledge about fitness, I doubt you are one of the top sports medicine and sports training people in the nation, and the Indians have people of that caliber in their employ.  It may well be that C.C. is in phenomenal condition despite his appearance -- as any real expert on this subject would tell you.

Moreover, blurting generalities about his command and his career after one mediocre start is the very definition of an overreaction -- this is the hallmark of an amateur analysis on any subject.  C.C. led all major league pitchers in innings pitched, had the most effective and robust year of his career and will be either first or second in the Cy Young voting.

Given those facts, it seems foolish to question the fitness of this player or the judgment of the professionals working with him.  He's now pitched 257 innings -- 15 percent more than Beckett has.  For all we know, that is the main reason his performance has been so lackluster.

At the very least, that explanation makes a whole lot more sense than saying a Cy Young contender is  too fat to command his fastball

by Jay on Oct 19, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Fair enough.

However new studies are coming out showing that peak performance from top athletes come when an athletes has an excellent heart.  I am not talking about a "team player/gutty heart", I am talking about a well conditioned physical hear.  There is no way C.C has a well conditioned heart.  One of the reason Vince Young is as good as he is, is because of the physical condition of his heart.  

Also the Indians have said many times that C.C isn't as in as good of shape as they would like to see.

Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 19, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You know E5 you need to go out drinking with Garko or chase - more like dodgin' - chicks with Jensen - then you'd find out there's more to this sports thing than a low resting pulse.
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Oct 19, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The Indians have not said that once this year so this is really just another tired rehash of the past. There is a better than average chance that CC has a great heart. He is a world class athlete who showed no signs of fatigue last night.

His lack of control on the fastball is clearly attributable to the fact that he overthrew all night. Not the sign of someone fading or running out of strength. Outward physical condition very rarely accurately demonstrates the condition of the heart.

Dealing with it.

by Brad D on Oct 19, 2007 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Typical "rock star" reply. LOL

by 48FAN on Oct 19, 2007 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You know what...I've been thinking about last nights loss, and the position the team is in. If a week ago you told me that we were up 3-2 heading to boston, I would be happy. I was hoping for a split in boston and 2 out of 3 in CLE ant that's what they got.

And you know what, this is against boston. Its not supposed to be easy. If it were, they'd be the Yankees.

by cclemens31 on Oct 19, 2007 1:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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Hiyoooo!
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 19, 2007 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
True - it actually has gone according to plan.

Actually if you told me three weeks ago the Indians were going into Boston for the ALCS, down 2-3, I'd be happy.

by DixonCayne on Oct 20, 2007 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Beckett complied, escaped a two-on, two-out jam later in the inning, then walked off the field and told an Indians fan behind the Red Sox dugout to "Go ---- yourself."

My most-hated guy in all of baseball.

by ASP on Oct 19, 2007 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
He just comes off as an arrogant douchebag. That cocky assed half smile on his face. During the game I spent time wondering what it would be like if someone hit a line drive and locked that arrogant look off of him.
Appalachian State-34 Michigan-32.....Oregon-39 Michigan-7

by gahnki on Oct 20, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
locked=knocked
Appalachian State-34 Michigan-32.....Oregon-39 Michigan-7

by gahnki on Oct 20, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
You can hate him, but would you rather have the Indians contract situation with CC or the Red Sox deal with Beckett?

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
I would rather have Hanley Ramirez, Anibal Sanchez, Harvey Garcia and Jesus Delgado than either of those contracts.

Beckett's contract extension did turn out to be a very good one, since the market exploded since months later.  It is in fact very similar to Sabathia's contract, it's just that C.C. is closer to the end of it.

by Jay on Oct 20, 2007 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
sounds like Ellsbury will be in for Crisp tonight.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 2nd GAME THREAD
Red Sox Nation to Coco: "It was nice knowing ya'.  Don't let the door hit you on the way out..."

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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