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Game 6 2nd Thread

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Yep.

Star-divide

NEGATIVITY NEED NOT APPLY. I DON'T WANT TO HEAR MOANING, WHINING, ETC. THAT JUST MAKES US SOUND LIKE RED SOX FANS OR CUBS FANS OR ANY OTHER FANS THAT WHINE AND MOAN AND BITCH.

WE SUPPORT THE CLEVELAND INDIANS. WE WILL NOT GO QUIETLY INTO THE NIGHT, BUT WE WON'T ACT LIKE BABIES ABOUT IT, EITHER.

LGT.

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Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Nothing but positivity here.  

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'm eager to see how Laffey does.

by osoc13 on Oct 20, 2007 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

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Time to find our inner peace.  Nothing like a good ol' fashioned butt-whipping to set us straight.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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Don't underestimate the ability of Gagne or someone to shit the bed.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I just want to see the boys play with some dignity.  Get some hits, don't give up and see what happens.
Apparently headed towards a solid 2nd and 3rd in the LGT Fantasy Leagues. Eh...

by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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Agreed.  If they roll over here, it is hard to come back from that.  It ain't over guys.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Man Garko is really pressing.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Before some smartass pipes up, I'm sure you mean that this thread is negativity-free in that you can still comment on the action and be disappointed, but be reasonable. Am I correct?

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yes
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Maybe he should stop swinging for the fences.  What would be a good thing to see is Hafner and Garko with a couple singles before the end of this game.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yep. Going the other way, fouling off tough pitches, man that would feel great.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Even if Hafner hit a few hard outs, I'd be encouraged.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Methinks Carmona should have pitched Game 5 at home.

He can't handle Fenway

by mikebrowns26 on Oct 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Please leave this thread because you are dumb.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I said please...when you say stupid shit, what do you expect?

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Try and grow up please

by mikebrowns26 on Oct 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I am grown up, and I'm saying this in a completely level-headed way...

You have no idea what you are talking about. He is not afraid of Fenway. There is no magic in the air that makes him pitch bad. It's a coincidence. Please stop trying to make baseball into a magical world of make believe chokes and curses.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Wow, this is embarrassing.  Stop ripping people because you are mad at the game.  He doesn't seem to pitch well in Boston for what ever reason.  His logic does not seem to off to me.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Ugh...please stop talking. I've been to Fenway, and I can promise you that there is nothing in the air that makes closers-turned-sinkerballing-starters that makes them shit the bed. It's a coincidence.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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So have I but certain players have mental blocks at certain places.  Maybe Carmona has one at Fenway.  I think the truth is that he is gassed and just doesn't have it.  Also the Red Sox are an excellent hitting team, add in the fact he only uses one side of the plate and you a recipe for disaster.  As a manager your job is to eliminate as many poor factors  as you can to put your players in the best position to win a game.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
So have I but certain players have mental blocks at certain places.

No.

Maybe Carmona has one at Fenway.

No.

I think the truth is that he is gassed and just doesn't have it.

Yes. Also, pitchers go through bad streaks.

As a manager your job is to eliminate as many poor factors  as you can to put your players in the best position to win a game.

And Wedge did this. Saying Fausto should have pitched Games 1 and 5 so he could stay out of Fenway is, well, completely retarded.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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When you calm down and think about things you might change your mind. Until then I will let you believe what you want to believe.  The facts are in and he failed in each situation.  I am sure the Indians brass will sit down an asses the situation and I am sure most of the suggestion I have made will come up.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You can ask me this in five years, and I'll say the same thing. This is not anger or anything...this is common sense.

Also, you have a reputation as being one who knows nothing about baseball...and now I see why. I'll end this here because this is supposed to be a happy thread, but also because you clearly just have no common sense whatsoever.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Also, the "fact" is that he has pitched poorly in Fenway, not that he can't pitch in Fenway. You are just making things up that aren't there.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Well, Fausto certainly has some nasty ghosts in Fenway.  I don't think he should have pitched Game 5, but we can't deny Fausto's memories of Fenway.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Watch it, you might have someone jump your ass for making such a suggestion.  
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Actually, it feels pretty good to have all the pressure of the night off. to be able to sit and not worry the ceiling is going to fall. I can sit back on the coach; maybe even talk to my wife. There's a calm after the storm.

I wonder if Hafner will still look sucky to me with this aura.

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'm just going to throw out a vote for benching Vic, Jhonny, and Grady for the rest of this game. Also, I'd love to see Laffey finish it off, too.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

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Me have missed some opportunities to really hurt Schilling because we are not being patient at the plate.  The pitching has been awful and the defense is non-existent.  That said if we can slow ourselves down we still have a chance.  Even if we don't win but put on a good effort from here on out we can get some momentum going into game 7.  These next 3 innings are key, if we don't slow down we are going to be hurting tomorrow.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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Agreed. We're going to be facing a rested staff tomorrow; and Francona is going to start resting his guys pretty soon.

No reason to keep the guys who HAVE been contributing out there. Let 'em go get a good night's sleep.

Shoot, I guess i wouldn't even mind seeing Barfield at this point. I mean, that's the only reason he's on the postseason squad, right?

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

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Whoa!
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Nice catch.

Though it would have been nice on Thursday.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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Grady Sizemore just showed us how to behave in a game like this.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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THAT CATCH WILL SPUR US ON TO A SERIES WIN

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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That can get the fire started, Grady!!!

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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That's just beautiful. That catch is the reason why Grady Sizemore should be the most beloved player in baseball.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I doubt Jacoby loves him too much right now. :)

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Gameplan for tomorrow:

We're going to win.  Here's how.

We're looking for five good innings from Westbrook.  We'll have to have a short hook, and if we get more it's a bonus.  Jake is going to pound the zone, just like he did in game three.

He is the Cy Young winner after all, so we're going to need Sabathia to pitch.  I don't care if he takes Raffy-L's spot, or is our left-handed specialist.  He's going to pitch, and it might be as much as two innings.

We're going to be patient.  Work the pitch count in Dice-K.  This is a good matchup for us, no matter how bad tonight feels.

Also!  There's a small part of me that would consider saying to Raffy-R, "We're going to shred your arm tomorrow night.  Sorry 'bout that.  You're going to start, and we simply can't take you out until you give up at least one run."

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

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You forgot Betancourt, who should get two innings tomorrow.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I agree with Raffy-R pitching a bunch tomorrow.  Get 6 out of Jake; bring in Byrd if we need a reliever to get us to Betancourt and Lewis.  There's absolutely no reason to believe CC will be effective on 2 days rest in relief.  No one else should see the mound unless things get screwy.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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At first, I thought it would be nuts to bring in Byrd, but he has shown the mentality to handle some heavy stuff.  

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Byrd won't pitch and shouldn't.  He's starting game one Wednesday, cause he'll be the only one available to do so.  I'm fine with that.  Fausto will start game two.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Also!  There's a small part of me that would consider saying to Raffy-R, "We're going to shred your arm tomorrow night.  Sorry 'bout that.  You're going to start, and we simply can't take you out until you give up at least one run."

You have to remember the game is starting at 8:00pm.  We'd never get to bed!

Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Grady Didn't Stop Believin'.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Oct 20, 2007 10:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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Have I mentioned how much I love Grady Sizemore?

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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Illinois just recovered a Michigan fumble.  Michigan still up 17-14 in the 3rd.

(This is what I will do instead of commenting on the debacle at Fenway.)

by emd2k3 on Oct 20, 2007 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
How about one of those 7 run innings the kids all seem to love?

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

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Well, negativity is the natural, expected reaction to what we have been seeing tonight.

But having said that, and admitting that I have spewed a few tonight, I will enroll my name in the list of the hopeful because . . . well why the fuck not?  

If by some miracle, or series of miracles, the Indians come back, it will be one for the ages.  If not, we've got tomorrow and they've got Dice-K.

Hope we don't have to burn the pen.

by JamesPowell on Oct 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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You know how things always feel sweeter when you're the underdog?  The world -- the entire freaking world -- has now written us off.  Fox execs are engaged in a private orgy.  They even invited Chip Caray.

Well, it's going to taste so absurdly sweet when we surprise the world tomorrow.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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If they invited Chip Caray in is it still a private orgy?

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yes.  Are you not familiar with parties?  A private party can be invite-only.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah but if Caray can get in they must be letting in about anyone. ;)

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Let's hope the team can feel like underdogs instead of a team that just lost their chance at winning the ALCS.

It's all a matter of perspective.  They should definitely feel less pressure.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You know what's cool? Grady got a standing O coming into the dugout, at Fenway. That's cool, props to Red Sox fans. That is classy.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

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Most Red Sox fans are classy, some are not but most Indians fans don't know that.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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It's easy to give that applause when you're up 10-1 and every other bounce and every umpire call is going your way.
"Nice shooting. Don't get cocky." - Han Solo

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by woodsmeister on Oct 20, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Really? I tip my hat to them. Thanks, guys.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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HIRE TROT NIXON
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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I think we have got to see Nixon in the lineup tomorrow.  He is really stroking the ball well.

by JamesPowell on Oct 20, 2007 10:23 PM EDT reply actions  

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I was just going to say the same thing with Jake on the mound tomorrow.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Grady, Victor, and Trot are having fantastic at bats. Casey was until that one right there.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
"Gets stronger as the game goes on."

There is nothing an announcer can say that aggravates me more than this.  It is beyond dumb, it is a lie.  I work my ass off as a triathlete and runner, and while I am not a professional athlete (nor LGT's resident kinesthesiologist) I am not dumb enough to believe I'm fucking stronger after running 10 miles than when I started.  You get stronger RESTING after working out.  You do not get fucking stronger throwing as hard as you can for 5 innings.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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Maybe they know something we don't.  Like Schilling is on the juice.
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by LGT Patrick on Oct 20, 2007 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I used to see colon's fastball get faster around the 4th or 5th inning. Isn't it possible for the shoulder to get looser or something?

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Looser is way different than getting stronger.  And it's also more likely that he's learned to pace himself than he is breaking the laws of physics.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Pitching is highly mental, with selection and all, and I can see a guy getting in that "zone" as the game goes on.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Again, not the same as getting stronger.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Mentally stronger?

Schilling is a big game pitcher and always GETS Stronger as the game goes on.

What they really are saying is that his pitch selection and location is improving.

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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The quote came after a mention of his velocity.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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His mechanics might be becoming better as he is relaxed and focusing in on doing things correctly.  Doing so will increase your velocity because you are not trying to pin point a ball and just pitching.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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HAHAHAHHAA HAMMY: "Well we'll probably learn tonight that Curt Schilling was pitching this game with a bloody nose."
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

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High-larious.

Hammy is helping to relieve the stress of the moment.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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As is PBR.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Did I coin that sig for you?  If so, I'm honored.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, I loved it.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Hit the ball hard. BABIP tonight.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

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Babip?What do you mean by it?

by Joe on Oct 20, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We've been amazingly unlucky tonight.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Wbaut?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Honestly, has anyone in the media asked Wedge or Sabathia about pitching tomorrow night?  Beckett has already said he'll go.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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I think the media has avoided talk of game 7 with Wedge since that assumed losses by the Indians.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Would you want him right now. He hasn't been that impressive in his last outings, and I doubt he'll be much better on only partial rest.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Do I want him to have to pitch?  No.  

But the guy is going to win the Cy Young award.  You sort of need every arm available.  I'm not suggesting he start or even pitch a full inning.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Would you want him right now.

Absolutely.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I just think you'd be better off with a Byrd/Betancourt/Borowski type line up. Guys who've got a proven ability to shut the Sox down.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Did you watch Game 4? Byrd did not pitch well at all. And even if he had, how does that prove that he can shut the Sox down?

I'm quickly remembering why I stopped posting here for so long.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Before you go apeshit, he's a Red Sox fan. (Though I don't really disagree with him.)
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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That makes me feel better. I just don't see how anyone can consider Byrd a better option than CC tomorrow. And I'd be thrilled if Borowski doesn't have to pitch at all.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Does this explain the rampant asshattery?
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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A big bite me to you sir. I was attempting to participate in your community in a positive way. If you'd prefer I not then say so.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I don't think that was about you.

Perhaps Kos?

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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Indeed.  If I mixed up who GFP was talking about, then I apologize.  

I did mean Kos.

Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Sorry. My bad. I have also had a few drinks so I may be a little more sensitive than normal.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I wasn't referring to you.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

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No. I don't think Byrd pitched that well, but as a Bosox fan I don't have a lot of confidence in Dice-K either and you've had more success with the non-"aces" than you have with Carmona and Sabathia.  But let's not get the cart before the horse. We have to win this game to get to even worry about Game 7.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh, I didn't know Westbrook was up next. He's a much better pitcher than Byrd, so strike that last comment and replace it with Westbrook/Betancourt/Borowski (probably all the alliteration sounded better.)

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Seriously what are talking about he gave up 2 runs in 5ip that is much better then your boys C.C and Carmona who clearly pitched awesomely this series.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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If you think Byrd pitched well, you did not watch the game. He pitched okay, but he was exceptionally lucky. Stop looking just at the results.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Byrd doesn't have 1/3 of C.C or Carmona's abilities and he has gutted his way through his career.  You will never see him pitch well but what you will see is that he doesn't hurt himself or get rattled.  His stuff just isn't good enough to have consistent quality outing but he never gives in.  C.C and Carmona could learn a lot from his mentality and mental focus.  
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh...my...God. His guttiness and mental focus made all of those line drives land right in our gloves? Good God, he was getting hammered, but the balls were just falling our way.

I'm out...there is so little intelligence in this thread right now that it's annoying me more than our nine run deficit.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The rest has nothing to do with it.  CC might be best served by avoiding the pre-game buildup and jumping right into the cold water of the game.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I am sure he is available and would do so but until he calms down, I don't want to see him in choking our games.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The old axiom is "everybody is available." so I presume Sabathia would be.

I sure hope Gagne is.

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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Dear God that was a filthy play Astro Cab.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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Hammy: "Shapiro and company think Laffey has Mark Buehrle potential."
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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Hmm, hyperbole?  Hard to tell at Laffey's age, I guess.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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News to me. Hey, if they're right, I'm not complaining.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I don't like any comparison to Chicago pitchers.  Earlier this series they said that Carmona needed to throw across his body like (name escapes me, Chicago pitcher) which is b.s.  NO pitcher should throw across his body, this will only lead to shoulder tears and oblique strains.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Hey, the defense looks good!

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
DEFENSIVE CLINIC
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
My guy crushes, based on this game:

Grady Sizemore
Asdrubal Cabrera

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Volt,

Grady is 0-8 with RISP this series and missed a hanger on 2-0 with two on when we were down only 4-1.  I like the way he's swinging, but it's time for a gap shot, baby.  

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yeah, I know. But anyone who tries to break the sound barrier in CF chasing a fly ball and eating dirt when down by 9 is a hero in my book.

My all-time favorite Tribe guys tend to be the bench players, who are the most obvious exemplars of this mentality. Oh, and Grady Sizemore.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Steps to recovery:

  1.  Get defense back.  (check)
  2.  Get offense back.  
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by LGT Patrick on Oct 20, 2007 10:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We won't be able to get the pitching back until tomorrow (unless we want to throw Laffey again).  First things first.  Let's get the offense.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Okay, so who is our first reliever out of the pen tomorrow?  I hope it's Raffy-R no matter the inning.  Seriously.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
If it's the bottom of the lineup and the sixth or earlier, I'd vote for Lewis first.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yeah.  But middle of the order in a tight spot?  I think we need to be open-minded about Raffy-R even early on.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I would agree. Betancourt needs to be in the most important situation, even if it's in the 4th-5th inning.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Pronk just looks horrible.
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by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Hafner is not doing much at the plate to work himself out of this.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Geeze, just saw Selig and Sen. Dodd... Tonight officially really blows.

by GuinPen1 on Oct 20, 2007 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Now, guys, we all know Hafner looks terrible. You can say this. But let's not be absurd about it.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Laffey is our new ace for 2008.

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Anything I say to you right now would be liable to get me banned, so I won't say anything.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
But yes, he has looked good.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Laffey is saving us big time and even if we lose it what he is doing is just as important as what Westbrook has done this series.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I cannot comprehend how you believe this.

by CU Adam on Oct 20, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He is allowing us to save our COT and other bullpen guys so we don't have to burn them out and will have them available for tomorrow.   Also he is shutting down the Red Sox bats giving us a chance tonight.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Man, I was really hopind that Hafner would get a base-knock tonight.  He needs something other than all of the strikeouts to think about tonight.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Nixon would make a better DH tomorrow.  If Wedge sticks with Hafner with the way Nixon is hitting, it sends a bad message to the rest of the team.

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
That's one way to think of it.  I think otherwise - a drastic change to the lineup could send another type of message (panic) to the team.  Besides, in spite of Hafner's troubles, he is not the reason for the losses.  He is not out on the mound pitching.  JMHO

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Dramatically changing a lineup worked well for the Yankees ask them about 2004.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
the problem is Wedge tends to put replacements in the same spot in the order as the person the're replacing.  The team doesn't have another #3 hitter. We got a few #1 and #2 guys. We've got several #6 through #9 guys. But we don't have any other #3 guys. That's why we need Hafner to stop guessing and start hitting.

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Should Wedge let Vic take the rest of the night off to keep him rested for tommorrow?  Also, Shoppach could use some swings to keep him sharp.

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 10:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yeah, even with all of the rest we've been given, there's just no point in making Vic catch for the rest of the night.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Do we have another catcher on our 40 man roster?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Garko is the emergency guy.

by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Oct 20, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yeah, but, do we have another actual catcher?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Gomez can catch.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Blake can do it and and technically our number 3.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
E5, when you make jokes, make sure we can tell that they're jokes.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Where did this Gomez-can-catch nonsense come from? This was mentioned about a month ago too. He hasn't caught a game in his major league career.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Geepers creepers, just looked at Raffy P's last 3 appearances. 1.0 IP, 8 R. I'm guessing he won't be called upon tomorrow night.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He didn't look terrible Thursday, and he was bit somewhat by bad luck tonight, but yeah, it is worrying.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Bad luck? He was missing is spots. Tired?

by crazymoloh on Oct 20, 2007 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Bloop if I remember, ground ball hit down the line, sounds like bad luck to me.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
The umpire from hell isn't calling his best pitches srikes?
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by woodsmeister on Oct 20, 2007 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Sadly enough. I still see Wedge using him if needed, just as the last in the Betancourt/Lewis/Perez trio.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
No North Dakota native major league ballplayer has ever looked BETTER while going 3-22 with 10 whiffs.

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Funny how we get outs when the ball is in the strike zone.

by crazymoloh on Oct 20, 2007 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
So ... Laffey's our 5th starter next year?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We'll talk about next year during the offseason -- but we've got a very interesting glut of starters.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I see the following guys all as legit contenders if they're with the club in ST:

Cliff Lee
Jeremy Sowers
Aaron Laffey
(Adam Miller??????)

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Lee
Sowers
are not legit any more.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yes they are. Your views tend to be a bit...more E7.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He better be. The only person I would be happy replacing Laffey with would be Adam Miller.

by Joe on Oct 20, 2007 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Could be higher if they trade C.C. in the off season.

by DukeSims on Oct 20, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
That might seem crazy at first brush but in reality it could set us up for multiply winning years.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Laffey retired 9 straight and 11 out of 13 total.

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Man I feel like such a dink. I cheered against the Leafs tonight because every time the Leafs and Indians have played on the same night this month, they've never both won or both lost. So of course they both lose tonight.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
WAIT! I DID NOT JUST ADMIT DEFEAT! WE'RE COMING BACK!

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
What a strange thread.  Much more back-and-forth than  usual.  

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Was that Okajima? Why the hell would he come into this game?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'm not complaining if they burn an arm.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Garko!
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by woodsmeister on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Garko gets a triple???  HA!
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by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
This team has been about grit since day one and no circumstance calls for grit more than a Game 7. If ever there were a team that should inspire confidence is such a circumstance it's the Indians. This is what they do.

by osoc13 on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Boston was down 3-1.  So far, they are showing more grit.  The Indians have rolled over the last 2 games.  

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We were down 1-0 and won three straight. Wake me when Boston does that.

by osoc13 on Oct 20, 2007 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Coco would have caught that one.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Wow!  Garko with a third!
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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Er, triple.
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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Well, Garko hit the ball hard. Is that seriously Papelbon? Is Francona insane?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He could pitch an inning tonight and still be fresh tomorrow

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
But why?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He needs the work.  Recall on Thursday that he was not as sharp after not pitching for so many night.

It is still a risk, though, if he goes out and throws 30 pitches...

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
But, given the way the Indians have been swinging the bat, that is not likely

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Just warming up unless we can put on a charge.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Coco would have had that!!!  HAHAHAHAHAHA

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
SITUATIONAL HITTING!
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Trot gets a hit here and I think he secures a starting spot tomorrow.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Looks like he should still be in tomorrow.  Hammy is calling it.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
It didn't drop, but Trot hit the ball on a line. He's starting tomorrow.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'd actually be pissed if he wasn't in there tomorrow night.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Plus, Westbrook is another groundball pitcher.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Trot may not have much power but is there any question he is having much better at bats then Gutz.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Let's check my prediction:

Laffey slams the door on the Sox (X)
Indians chip away at the Sox (X)

(if 1 run counts) ;-)

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Think of it, LGTers. We're rooting for Nixon to start. Think about that.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Man, a few weeks ago, if anyone said it'd be a near unanimous belief that Trot should start Game 7 of the ALCS, I think they'd have been yelled at for hours.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Good point.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
The worst part is that I agree it's the right move.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'm not certain you should be saying "the worst part".
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
That's more like it.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Tabler,  

You wanna go out and watch the most exciting game of the year tomorrow night with me.  I am feeling the Karma of Ray Chapman coming through for us.  Besides, I got thursday as a personal day to go to game two next week.  Remember it's not supposed to be easy.  It will be nice to shred that national image on Sunday.  I believe....do you?

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by tribe fan in Rochester on Oct 20, 2007 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Laffey is seriously brilliant right now.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
One Laffey > Carmona (ALCS), C.C (postseason)
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Grit.

Tomorrow will feature it. The Indians will have so much grit that Matsuzaka will hang his head in shame after witnessing all of our grit.

Tomorrow's dinner will feature Hafner grit, Martinez grit with some Peralta grit.

And to drink?

Some Jake Westbrook intangibles.

by cclemens31 on Oct 20, 2007 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
The Indians will have so much grit that Matsuzaka will hang his head in shame after witnessing all of our grit.

Then he will have to go out to the front of Fenway and commit seppuku.

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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Grit has been seriously missing from this board.  Glad to have it back.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Laffey has REALLY bailed us out. Lewis and Betancourt (are we now down to 2 members of the COT?) will not pitch tonight and are available for at least 4 innings between them for tomorrow.

by JesseAK on Oct 20, 2007 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'd say closer to 5, but yeah, Laffey has been huge tonight.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He really has helped us out big time.  He calmed us down and gave us a chance tonight and saved the bullpen, that doesn't get people MVP's but it is just as important as one quality start.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Okay Tribe. 1 2/3 innings, 8 runs. Let's do it.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Now that would be some wild shit.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Figured I should throw in a comment about the game.

Wouldn't that be the greatest addition to Red Sox lore?

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Why is Borowski warming? Laffey's at 52 pitches. Let him go till the end.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Because Laffey has replaced Perez and Fultz as the lefties out of the 'pen! We need Laffey for tomorrow!

by JesseAK on Oct 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You've got to be fucking kidding me RR. You know better than this.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We're just witnessing some method sarcasm.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I like Borowski, he is better then fat boy traded to Atlanta.  He has done his job this post season and as everyone should know by now the post season is much different then the regular season.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
he is better than Wickman though

remember the "The Wick is Lit!" thing they used to do at the Jake?

hilarious

by Freneau on Oct 20, 2007 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I disagree with both of you. During their Tribe time, Wick was better than Joe B.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Damn, well his at bats have been brilliant, but results just not there for Grady tonight. Even though he did hit a home run to lead off the game.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I didn't think that Carmona was going to implode tonight but I did think Schilling would pitch well enough to win.  After losing game 5 I had a feeling it was going 7.  I still think we will win tomorrow because Dice is so un-clutch like C.C has been I am not worried about it.  If Westbrook has his good sinker he will give us 6 strong and with a well rested bullpen we will be in great shape to close it out.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I tell you what, after Game's 5 and 6 I feel like I should have been totally despondent, but I've laughed my ass off during the latter innings of both of them now.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I was having a blast in the upper deck at the end of  Game 5, but I will say innings 3-7 were pretty damn depressing.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I really want to bet the mortgage that DiceK pitches a shutout tomorrow. Sorry guys.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I guarantee my life he doesn't.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Fine. I'll take the other side of that bet.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
It's my Cleveland/Philadelphia sports team faith. I know of nothing else but losing in the most agonizing way possible.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I turned the game off after we didn't score Trot and Blake in the 3rd inning. I knew it was going to be a long night. Turned on the playstation and just forgot the whole game.

Oh well .. at least I have something to watch tomorrow night.

Keep your heads up.

by Toxicadam on Oct 20, 2007 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We have been. And WE watched the game.

So, nyeah to you.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You have more Playstation to watch tomorrow?  Just kidding.  You were very fortunate to have done what you did.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
That was a key inning for sure. Transition inning that if we had done something this game might have been much different.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
If David Dellucci were on our ALCS roster I would be convinced we could win this game.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
If we're up one run tomorrow night and JoeBo comes in for the 9th, I'm going to shit a fucking brick.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Really? I'd be cool with it.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
LOL, watching Victor's jog around the bases is so priceless.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
John Farrel is an excellent pitching coach.  He has done a wonderful job with the Red Sox staff, getting the most out of Beckett and Schilling.  DiceK is experiencing the normal transition problems that Japanesse players go through.  DiceK also has so many pitches he has trouble commanding the strike zone.  I am sure DiceK will be much better next year once they shorten his pitches.  
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Works well for Bill Belichick and the Patriots.  You can't give your opponents enough credit.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He can turn into Sandy Koufax in two days.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Rochester fan,

My cell is 585.269.9360.  Call me tomorrow.

It's going to be fun to win that one, eh?

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
To be honest, guys, I really want us to yank this out of Boston's hands because a friend's youngest son suddenly became a member of the Nation and I want him to cry.

Come on Indians pleasepleaseplease.

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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You have to respect the heck out of the Red Sox they are one tough team.  That said some how bring him to the Indians side of things.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You want to make a child cry? AWESOME!

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I wasn't trolling. I was making a joke. Relax tabler. Breathe.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He really hasn't been bad, actually. He's quite far from a troll.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Thanks Grady4. hugs

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I thought there was a slight chance that Borowski realized that he wasn't going to be used tomorrow and called Vmart over to tell him to watch how hard he was going to plunk Manny.

by cclemens31 on Oct 20, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yeah seriously a Manny plunk would've been great there.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
babip lol
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Remind me again why JoBo is in...???
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by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
No idea
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
"But it doesn't matter, it's not a save situation."

<hit in face>

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
im from toronto, and i was on a bus for the first 8 innings, can anyone tell me WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED?!

by Taquito on Oct 20, 2007 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Holy shit another Canadian. Welcome to the one-man club.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
my heart has a photo of chief wahoo in it, ive been a fan of the indians for more than 10 years and this season has been great, i never tought that a huge ass raping blowout like today would happend, what the hell people what the hell!

by Taquito on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
What kind of bus were you on for 8 innings by the way? As an aside, I'm from London.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
i took a bus from windsor to toronto, and traffic was fucking Nuts!

by Taquito on Oct 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
bad luck, bad strike zone, pretty poor hitting approach for most of the lineup.

just not our night.

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You don't want to know if you are an Indians fan.  Just focus on tomorrow.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Depends. Do you know the heimlich?

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
BABIP screwed Fausto in the first inning.  Royally.  

Then he got squeezed against JD Drew, had to groove one, and we were down four.

Then he got squeezed against Man-Ram in the 3rd inning and he utterly lost his mind.

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Even your posts without worthless statistics are wastes of electrons.  We can't develop an ignore function fast enough for this site.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yea, Hafner and Carmona sure were clutch tonight.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Carmona = bad
defense = bad
bats = bad

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
However, the defense has also been incredibly good.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Agreed. Defense in crucial moments = bad. All over times = incredible.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
They're using all their lucky hits tonight. Won't they feel foolish when they don't have any left tomorrow.

by cclemens31 on Oct 20, 2007 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Red Sox have a history of having a very bad day at the plate following a blowout win.  Maybe that was Wedge's plan all along.  He brought in Joe Borowski because he wanted them to be over confident going into tomorrows game.  Since Laffey did such a good job of shutting them down they would have not be over confident but now...
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
looks like JoBo needs help from last year's closer...

by mark1 on Oct 20, 2007 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Okay.  So the only reason I am still watching this game is to see Hafner's last at bat - can he (maybe) bunt to the left side and get the cheapest of hits?  Anything but a strikeout or chopper to the right side.

As a true Cleveland fan, I am a glutton for punishment.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I hope Wedge isn't crazy enough to play him tomorrow.

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Palcal you've been more annoying than E5 tonight. You don't like Pronk, you think he is worse than Trot Nixon. Now shut le trap.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I didn't think it was possible for someone to out-annoy E5.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
When a player like Hafner is hurting as bad as he has been and not hitting you certainly have to consider it Ego be dammed.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You and palcal have to meet. He/she would be a nice replacement for your BoSox wife.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Hey- that's Gagme coming in- there is hope ;)

by mark1 on Oct 20, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

There's still hope
Tito's using The Closer Who Shall Not Be Named.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: There's still hope
Papelbon, Paplebon, Paplebon, Paplebon, Paplebon, Paplebon, Paplebon, Paplebon,Paplebon, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne, Gagne!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Alright, jobo with his typical inning.  Things are back on track.

We'll take care of Dice-K tomorrow like we should.

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by Matt in LA on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I actually feel bad for JoeBo there. Leaving him in to face 8 batters is beyond getting some work.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Borowski threw 22, probably not enough to make him unavailable tomorrow

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
It's too bad we weren't playing a drinking game that involved taking a swig whenever Hammie said "I don't know where that pitch was."  We'd all be totally hammered by now.
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by woodsmeister on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I pretty much was.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Damn. What a wasted opportunity.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Eric Gagne up to pitch in the 9th. Here's our only chance to win this game folks!

by 48FAN on Oct 20, 2007 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Now we get to see who's in a worse funk - Pronk or Gagne.

If we don't score at least 2 runs off this clown I'll be disappointed.

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by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Jesus Pronk, at least you hit it out of the infield though.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Hey - at least he got it to the OF.  Progress...
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by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
YES!  A fly ball to the outfield!  It's been a week since that happened.

by Spidey on Oct 20, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Game 7 at Fenway. Seriously, that's just too...dramatic.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
The Rockies, Westbrook, and Paul Byrd have proven that you need to be devoutly Christian to come up big in this post-season. I'm totally calm with him going tomorrow.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Schilling too.
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by mjmarble on Oct 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Schilling's been a bit spotty and he's always dripping with Jesus.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Ohh, I completely forgot about the Rockies being Jesus Freaks.

I also did not know Westbrook was one, as well.

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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'm throwing out all of my Carmona cards, dammit!

¤cries¤

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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Sorry, they're already on fire in front of my house.
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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I wouldn't do that just yet, I he starting pitching on both sides of the plate and works on his changeup  he will be bigger then Beckett.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Now you tell me!  I'm grabbing the extinguisher!
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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Oh I SOOOOOOOO hope this gives them the confidence to throw Gagne out there tomorrow.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
lol!
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
GFP I don't think I can post between now and the end of tomorrow night's game. I'm likely to get banned for saying something outrageous to some idiot. And if we lose I'm not posting for at least a week.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Understandable. I'll be here fighting the good fight.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
that closer and "confidence" should never be used in the same sentence.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Seriously, what are you doing here?  Why be a troll?

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Evan, I really don't think he's trolling. He hasn't said anything that's got me going.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I don't think he has been a troll, considering he a confused Red Sox fan on an Indians blog site he has been very good.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
What about his statement was trollish?
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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Jake will save the day on Sunday! Chin up folks.

by 48FAN on Oct 20, 2007 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Hi again, troops. Took a nice, long, relaxing, aimless drive home from work to cool down a bit and put all of this in the proper perspective.

And the proper perspective this is: I want nothing more than for the Indians to rip the beating heart from the Red Sox's collective chest tomorrow night. I then want them to messily chow down on it right there on the Fenway Park infield.

I don't even care how they do it, as long as they do it.

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by vbc3 on Oct 20, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'm pretty sure everyone would gladly have said, "We'll take it!" if we were offered a game seven against the Sox one month ago.  

TIME FOR GRIT!

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Only fitting the series goes to 7 games, I guess.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Didn't most everyone expect it to last week?

You win three in a row and people get greedy and impatient, I tell ya.

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by smtp on Oct 20, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
The advantage of a 3-1 cushion is that you get three chances to win the series!  Over it is NOT.  GRITGRITGRITGRIT

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Yeah. No problem with that, though.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
This game might be a wake up call.
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by E5 on Oct 20, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
game 7 will show which team is grittier

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
The title 'We've Got uniforms and everything' is 0-2. I request we go back to the 'Deal With It' title, which had a winning percentage of about 99.2%.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
YES.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
is Nixon in for Gutz or Hafner in Game 7?

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
gutz
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I say we put mauichuck in for palcal. The latter has just been scuffling lately and I think you have to go with the gritty experience tomorrow night.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Dear Ledge Standers,

We're all frustrated with Hafner.  It seems like a sweet idea right now to sub Gomez for Hafner tomorrow, but let's just stick with the guy who was the World OPS Champion for a couple of years.  That is all.

Here we go, Grit!

by tabler84 on Oct 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
2007 (not counting postseason): .837

by madherb on Oct 20, 2007 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I don't wanna get called a troll again, and those are great numbers for the regular season, but in the post he's batting a buck thirty. My two cents: If you've got anybody on the bench who can hit for him, do it.

I don't think Hafner really killed any rallys (a la Coco Crisp) but he's not helping.

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 21, 2007 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Actually, I'm saying an 837 OPS is average for a DH, below average for a #3 hitter, and more representative of what we might expect out of him tomorrow than what he did 2-4 years ago.  

Problem is, we don't really have any other options. We're going with what brought us.

by madherb on Oct 21, 2007 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Meh!  Your argument doesn't really hold water based on what Francona has done.  He stuck to his guns against all arguments against Coco, Beckett in game 4, and J.D. Drew - and look at where the Red Sox stand.

Comparing Coco to Hafner is absurd.  If Coco breaks out of his slump, it is unlikely his hits will turn a game around.  He might spark a rally, but he will not belt a home run.  Hafner always has a chance to break a game open.  Additionally, pitchers still respect what he can do.

by Spidey on Oct 21, 2007 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Don't go thinking just because I'm a Sox fan I agree with everything their skipper does. If I was Francona Drew's ass would have been warming some pine since Game 1 and Ellsbury would be our new RF. I cut Coco some slack, but by yesterday I was fed up. We've still got some major problems, Lugo for instance is performing like he did for the first 3 months, and Cora wouldn't be much of a replacement, same with Varitek.

Also don't think I was putting Hafner and Crisp in the same league. Coco's been crap as long as we've had him, but he has somewhat redeemed himself through playing great defense. Obviously that's not an option for a DH. Coco's never going to be a HR hitter, but I think Theo expected him to be a speedy top of the lineup guy with a high OPS.

As for how we got here, Beckett. Beckett's the only reason we aren't headed to Fort Meyers. There's more to it than that, a lot of really crap luck in some games (some of which was visited on you guys today), and some stupid batting, and God knows both of us have had our fair share of "Say WHAT?" moments with the umps, but in the post season it's all about who's hot and Hafner's not hot right now, he's not even lukewarm (again just my $0.02)

by OTMsdkramer on Oct 21, 2007 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Well, said dkramer, good luck to your team.  This has been a back and forth series and I expect a very good game 7 with lots of drama.  Being a Indians fan and husband of a Red Sox fan, I think I see both teams flaws and strengths better then most.  I had said from the get go that this series would go 7 games.

 The series has lived up to its advanced billing even though for the most part the starting pitching for both teams has been worse then expected.  Schilling had a good game tonight but if the Indians hitter were more patient they would  have done much better.  Carmona has finally just hit the wall and is a one dimensional pitcher who will evolve into a great pitcher but he certainly has problems in Boston.  

The Indians really need Westbrook to have his good sinker tomorrow night or we will have to go to our bullpen early.  Dice K has had his share of problems this year and certainly doesn't leave anyone with a lot of confidence but if his command is good he could give Boston a quality start something he hasn't done in some time.  Beckett being available in your bullpen is certainly a huge asset where as C.C being available isn't really an asset to the Indians.  

Grady Sizemore has had some quality of at bats of late but the results have not showed.  He is the key to the Indians tomorrow and needs to get on base and get a steal or two against an below average Varitek arm.  I predict the Indians will win but in extra innings as both pens will be nearly spent.  If the Indians can get by Beckett the Red Sox bullpen outside of Papelbon is very suspect.  Manny's streak of consecutive hits in playoff games was broken tonight but I fully expect him to have a very good game tomorrow night and be walked late in the game even though Lowell leads the team in RBI's.  

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by E5 on Oct 21, 2007 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I would be on board with that if he didn't have hitting AIDS right now.

Personally I'd rather start Shoppach at C, V-Mart at 1b and Garko at DH.

Shoppach > Hafner right now

by KevinV on Oct 20, 2007 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
My word. We've hit a new low tonight, folks.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Still posting, I see.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
You realize Garko has looked like shit, too, right?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Could the bye week have come at a better time for the Cleveland Browns? Full attention tomorrow will be on the Cleveland Indians, as it should be...
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by Chris Pokorny on Oct 20, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I find it just the opposite; I'd love if the Browns played tomorrow to keep my mind off of this for a few hours.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'm going to a women's softball game tomorrow at 3. I'd say that should take my mind off baseball....ah crap.

by supermarioelia on Oct 20, 2007 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
ha. I've got to play softball tomorrow at 9am. If I can find the same level of anger I had when Drew hit that grandslam tonight, I could probably hit a ball 700-800 feet, approximately. Take notes, Pronk.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Westbrook on post-game show now

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
He's got to be more focused than CC and Fausto

by palcal on Oct 20, 2007 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Because we all know that focus determines the quality of a starter's outing.

by Voltaire on Oct 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
It's not like Fausto and CC have tired arms.

by palcal on Oct 21, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I don't know if Jay's in here, so if anyone sees him before tomorrow, remember. Deal with it.

by ASP on Oct 20, 2007 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
That or some riff on "grit". I'm not up on my good and back luck charms, but I'm not sure if reverting to an old "used" phrase will work.
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by vbc3 on Oct 20, 2007 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Stronger is on a continuous loop over the next 24 hours.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 20, 2007 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I think I'm just gonna tie one on, myself. I still have some Jim left over on the shelf. Why the hell not.
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by vbc3 on Oct 21, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
we have to strike early tomorrow. Like 2-3 runs in 1st inning type early. Grady, Pronk, let's show up.

by ASP on Oct 21, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
why is everybody so confident that Hafner should start tomorrow?

by palcal on Oct 21, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I'm going out to the bars in a bit here, but rest assured, I'm repping Tribe gear tonight because I have no fear. I have no fear, and you know what? I love this franchise no matter what the fuck happens in Game 7. I have faith in Westbrook, ultimate faith.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 21, 2007 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Not to take anything away from the positive talk here - and this is not a negative post - I want to put this into perspective.  

All of this talk about winning "just one game" is too much.  What this teams needs to be thinking is that they must leave it on the field and let the cards fall as they may.  Over the past two games, the Indians have not brought their A-game and failed to show the world why they have earned their way to this point.  Win or lose, they do not want the memory of this season to be the last two games.  If they go out, play a "gritty" game, and still come up on the short end of the score, they can still hold their heads high.  

Crazy things can happen.  A team can play a great game and still lose because of some crazy bounce or bad call.  Or, the team can win for the same reason.  The outcome does not matter as much as the effort put into the game.  I still want a victory very badly and think we have the ability to win, no matter who we are facing.  But, I do not want the desire for victory to stand in the way of enjoying the experience (because the past several days have not been fun).

Go Indians!  Let's have some fun tomorrow.

by Spidey on Oct 21, 2007 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I would feel better if they won 1 more game this year and were playing game 7 in Cleveland.

by palcal on Oct 21, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I love this team.

Win or lose, I love this team.  

That is all.

by Julie on Oct 21, 2007 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

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+1.
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by vbc3 on Oct 21, 2007 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
We're getting 5 from Jake tomorrow, 3 from Jensen, Raffy B and Mastny, and the season comes down to Jobo.  It couldn't happen any other way.

GO TRIBE!

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We never surrender!

by Matt in LA on Oct 21, 2007 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Should the most entertaining season I have ever seen finish (potentially) in any other way?

by Toxicadam on Oct 21, 2007 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
I left for my coach's birthday in the 7th, couldn't take any more, and haven't read any of these posts, but I'm sure they're largely echoing the same things I am feeling right now.  Super frustrated that we have to play another game; I really feel like we are the best overall team in baseball, and it sucks that it's going to come down to one game to prove it.  But at the same time, if you had given us the option in April of playing Game 7, one shot, for the pennant, winner takes all, we all would have taken it.  To the man (and woman), every last one of us would have signed up in a heartbeat and would have been ECSTATIC to have the chance.  So  let's go Tribe.

by CU Adam on Oct 21, 2007 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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Hopefully Wedge will be clean-shaven for game 7

by palcal on Oct 21, 2007 2:23 AM EDT reply actions  

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If the Indians lose game 7, they will be kicking themselves for their mid-season slump that cost them home field advantage in this series.

by palcal on Oct 21, 2007 2:25 AM EDT reply actions  

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I will never badmouth any Indians player. I hate fans who do that. A bunch of my friends are Red Sox fan, as I live in CT. And pretty much the whole year they would badmouth JD Drew and how terrible he is, and what does he do tonite? Hits a 1st inning grand slam, and now they're all like "JD Drew is the man." Gotta love those fairweather fans. The cards are stacked up against us tomorrow, but that's how the Indians usually play. They're so close, and I know these guys can do some hitting tonite. KENNY! KENNY! KENNY!

by pronk626 on Oct 21, 2007 2:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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How about Shoppach at C in game 7; he's 2 for 3 vs Dice-K?  Garko could DH with Vic at 1B and Hafner can sit down.

by palcal on Oct 21, 2007 2:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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I'm really trying not to be negative, but will you PLEASE stop talking about benching Hafner?

by CU Adam on Oct 21, 2007 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Hafner should play. Other than that, I should remind you that the Indians need to win one in three. The Red Sox need to win three in a row. If the Red Sox win three in a row than they deserve to move on, if the Indians win one in three than they deserve to move on... pretty simple stuff here.

by hans on Oct 21, 2007 3:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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by vbc3 on Oct 21, 2007 3:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game 6 2nd Thread
Maybe we, as fans and the media, were too confident after Game 4.  It's never over until it's over.

Yes, our own fans and media thought we would cake-walk through Beckett, getting ready to taste the champainge, get ready for the World Series, etc.

Maybe that's why we're so depressed today.  Our mentality of it being "over" after Game 4, when in fact, it was clearly far from over.

This is a great learning experience for all of us fans to never, never, never be so confident being up 3-1, especially against a team who's been in that situation before.  

Until we realize that we need 27 outs and a lead to win, we'll never get over ourselves and the disappointment that comes with losses like that past 2 games.

by tborish on Oct 21, 2007 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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or you could focus on Paul Byrds drug habits...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/10/21/MNN6SSC8F.DTL&tsp=1
Enjoy a relaxing Sunday!

by eastcoastbias on Oct 21, 2007 9:45 AM EDT reply actions  

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