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Favorite (Other) Tribe/Baseball Resources

so it happened.  after a good 3 or 4 year walk about in the wilderness, i'm back to loving baseball (though hating MLB more than ever).

anyhow, as a result it's going to be a long, cold 3 1/2 months.

so, i thought i'd ask: what are your favorite web sites, columnists, and books when it comes to the tribe and baseball in general?

i'm looking for hardcore statistical material, giamatti ("it breaks your heart, it was designed to break your heart") sentimentality, in depth interviews with the new groundskeeper in kinston, or anything else you've found worthwhile.

animal, vegetable, mineral.  i'd love to know.

thanks.

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Re: Favorite (Other) Tribe/Baseball Resources
"Three Nights In August" is a great baseball read.  While it is neither about the Tribe, nor AL baseball, it just shows you how much time, effort, energy, thought, planning, etc, go into a 3 game series.  It just gives you a sneak peak of all the intricacies we take for granted so often.  It's easy to be a "manager" for 3 hours every night in front of our TVs, but there is so much more.  Great for any baseball fan.

Hope this helps!

by joecardsfan on Oct 26, 2007 11:48 AM EDT reply actions  

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That WAS an amazing read. I echo all your comments.

by Voltaire on Oct 26, 2007 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Not to hijack the thread or anything, but I'd also be interested if you guys know of any good baseball books. I just started BP's "Baseball Between the Numbers" and am loving it so far.

We should get an LGT bookclub together.

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 26, 2007 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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I have always loved baseball, but never got into the internet side of it until this year.

Baseball-Reference is an awesome site, that has a clean layout and incredible amounts of statistical information.

It was incredible to go back in time and look at box scores of games I have been to in the 80's and 90's. Really brought back a lot of memories of players/teams I had forgotten about.

It's also cool to look at our minors system in the 90's and see how those guys stacked up to our current guys.

by Toxicadam on Oct 26, 2007 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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Baseball Reference is awesome.

Baseball Think Factory.

Fire Joe Morgan.

First Inning.

The Hardball Times.

Joe Posnanski has two blogs.  Here and here.

USS Mariner and Aaron Gleeman are my favorite non-Indians non-SB baseball blogs.

Books:
The Thinking Fans Guide to Baseball
Baseball Between the Numbers
The Baseball Economist

by nickjs21 on Oct 26, 2007 12:32 PM EDT reply actions  

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FJM and THT are absolutely great sites.
Dealing with it.

by Brad D on Oct 26, 2007 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Definitely two of the most entertaining and informative baseball sites around.  Unlike some saber-oriented sites, I rarely feel over my head when reading a THT article, great analysis articles.  

by Pronk33 on Oct 26, 2007 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh, and MLB Trade Rumors is going to get a lot more interesting in about a week.

by nickjs21 on Oct 26, 2007 12:39 PM EDT reply actions  

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If you wouldn't mind paying money Baseball America is great.
Gator fans have so much in common with Yankee fans. Minus the history and championships, of course.

by gahnki on Oct 26, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

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BP's "Baseball Between the Numbers" is excellant as is "The Book: Playing the Percentages in Baseball" by Tango, Lichtman, and Dolphin.  The last book uses stats to analyze baseball strategy and questions some of the traditional methods of the game.  It's quite math/stats heavy but you can skim over some of those parts if that's not your thing and still understand the book.

Also, if you have ESPN Insider read everything by Rob Neyer.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 26, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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This is somewhat likely to get deleted due to irrelevance or perhaps the scent of politics.

But in reading the Cavs thread, I was impressed by the intelligence and awareness simply oozing from even the youngest posters on this site.  Heck, GFP is a college lad with a grasp of geo-politics.  Awesome.

So if you're looking for thought-provoking reading, you've got to read Mark Morford.  Try this one first:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2007/10/24/notes102407.DTL

I'm not saying you should agree with this column, but it will certainly make you think.  And it will make you think, "Wow, LGT posters are in that three percent!"

Here's his archive.

http://www.sfgate.com/columnists/morford/archive/

by tabler84 on Oct 26, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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Making comments to the general public is a dicey business.  People can say things that come off terribly in public that would sound fine if you had a private conversation with someone -- where they would have a chance to explain and contextualize.

Lots of people have religious and/or moral convictions, and it's frankly hard to talk about it without sounding like an ass.  Byrd obviously has given this subject a lot more thought than most and does as good or better job of than about any other public figure I can think of.

What Byrd has, now, is basically the Nuke LaLoosh talking points, but about religion.  He knows what he can say on the subject that will be truthful, but at the same time won't come off as preachy or obnoxious.

My point just being, it's tough to talk about these things in public with any grace, so I try not to be too hard on anyone who can't quite manage it.

by Jay on Oct 26, 2007 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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That's a fair point, and an important one to keep in mind when we hear similar statements.

We're all entitled to our own views on God, of course.  But while it's difficult to sound articulate and reasonable, I find it somewhat revealing nonetheless when people characterize God as playing a deciding role in sporting events.

by tabler84 on Oct 27, 2007 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Turk, I presume you've read "Dealing"

"The Book on the Book" was a little disapointing, though I don't remember why, just that it was - I read it a while ago.  I think it waffled too much.  I feel like at the end of every chapter, the conclusion was basically: "So maybe, maybe not".

The Diatribe is my only other Indians specific daily stop.

by Brick. on Oct 26, 2007 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

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don't post much, mostly read.  if i do post, it's just as s_bricker, not one of the regulars, or as he calls them serial posters.

by Brick. on Oct 26, 2007 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

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If I make my brain squint I think I can remember a post by you...I'll keep my eyes open from now on.

by Voltaire on Oct 26, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You're welcome to become a serial poster anytime.  
Actually, I read your thoughts enough over here to know where you're coming from.

I'm like you here.  Read a lot, post rarely.

Last time I got into posting a lot it degenerated into a discussion of what gin tastes best on the rocks.
Fleerdon is right...it's Boodles.

by The DiaTriber on Oct 26, 2007 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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No, I keep hearing about it. It's next on my list.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 27, 2007 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh man, FJM is amazing. I've spent the past hour reading through the archives...

by Voltaire on Oct 26, 2007 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

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For quick stats, I love firstinning.com. Has a lot of useful things, like BABIP, line drive %, GB:FG, etc.

Also! The Mind of Bill James. Loved reading it.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 27, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply actions  

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I really enjoyed The Numbers Game: Baseball's Lifelong Fascination with Statistics  by Alan Schwarz.

It describes the interplay of baseball rules and statistics and how they interplayed with each other to develop the game as it exists today.  Some interesting information about early baseball and a pretty quick read.

by steincat on Oct 28, 2007 11:59 AM EDT reply actions  

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