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Game Thread: October 5, 2007

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New York at Cleveland, 5:07 PM (TBS)
American League Division Series (CLE 1-0)

Starting Pitchers:

Cleveland: Fasuto Carmona (215.0 IP, 3.06 ERA, 116 PRC)
New York: Andy Pettitte (215.1 IP, 4.05 ERA, 90 PRC)

The big decision here is whether to go with Kenny Lofton or Jason Michaels in the starting lineup. Left-handers (.836 OPS) actually hit better against Pettite than right-handers (.727 OPS). Lofton, though, hasn't hit Pettitte at all (.125/.200/.156, 32 AB) in his career, while Michaels is hitting .375/.400/.500 in 10 AB.

Update [2007-10-5 15:56:45 by Ryan]: Michaels is in the lineup - but in right field. Lofton's in left, and Gutierrez is on the bench.

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Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I think you start Michaels. We can bounce Pettitte in 4, and then substitute Lofton when the Yanks go to their righty-only bullpen.

by JesseAK on Oct 5, 2007 3:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I agree.  This is why we have Michaels.  Lofton can, and surely will be used in end game situations.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 3:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I third that. I'd hate to see Wedge go with the perceived hot bat & give up on the platooning that's served us well pretty much the whole season.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 3:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
HEY HEY HEY LET'S GO TRIBE!!!
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Mientkiewicz 1B
Pettitte LHP

INDIANS
Sizemore CF
Cabrera 2B
Hafner DH
Martinez C
Garko 1B
Peralta SS
Lofton LF
Michaels RF
Blake 3B
Carmona RHP

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 3:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I would have gone Gutz in right and Michaels in left.  Lofton, who has faced Petitte a lot, hasn't ever done anything against him.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Agreed. I think they want to be able to swap Michaels easily.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Wedge, small sample size!

(PS - All three outfielders will go 4-4 and I'll look like an utter moron)

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Matsui and Posada switch places? Interesting.

by Toxicadam on Oct 5, 2007 4:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
It will be sad to see an outfield without 3 CF'ers, though...saved a few runs last night
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 3:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Funny comment, considering Michaels has 139 career games in CF, and Gutierrez has 17.

When we acquired Michaels, he had played 91 games in left, 138 in center, and 48 in right.  He and Lofton platooned in center for the 2005 Phillies.

by Jay on Oct 5, 2007 4:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
but you're not suggesting you prefer michaels in right defensively to gutz, are you?

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Im aware that J-mike played center for the Phils; I suppose I should have said 3 "good" cf'ers.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Wow, no Giambi again tonight.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 3:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I wonder why they went Michaels over Gutz? I know that in actuality Lofton is in right, but still I'd rather Gutz than Michaels.

by columbus714 on Oct 5, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I like starting Lofton, but not Michaels at the expense of Gutz.  Granted, with Carmona on the mound, you should have more ground balls than flys, but Michaels is .248/.292/.314 since the All-Star break.  Don't mess with a lineup that scored 12 last night.

by maledicta on Oct 5, 2007 4:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Actually, I'd like to see Gutz and JMike and sit Kenny til we get to their bullpen.  

JMike and Kenny usta platoon in Philly and that worked pretty well - don't see why it wouldn't work now.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 4:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
i think you speak for everyone here.  this makes no sense

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Especially since the Yankees don't have any lefties in their bullpen. You have to start Gutz and Michaels. Wedge is trying to keep with the hot hand, I hope that it works, but I disagree with the move and the reasoning behind it.

by columbus714 on Oct 5, 2007 4:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
You don't know the reasoning behind it.

by Jay on Oct 5, 2007 4:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I'm speculating that it is because Kenny was hot. But thanks for your brilliant retort.

by columbus714 on Oct 5, 2007 4:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Maybe I didn't make myself clear start the right hand hitter JMike against the left handed Pettitte (sp?) and bring Kenny in against whoever the right hand hitting relief guy is.  

Is that the wrong use of the platoon or what?

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 4:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Oh fa!  Make that right hand throwing relief guy instead of "right hand hitting".  I'm gonna go watch the game now.  Bye!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Oct 5, 2007 4:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Here's a prediction. After Pettitte exits, a pinch-hit by Trot Nixon for Jason Michaels, and Gutz as pinch-runner / defensive replacement.

by fleerdon on Oct 5, 2007 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Kenny's the only guy who has faced Petitte a decent number of times (35 PAs) and he has 4 hits and 3 walks.  

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 4:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
leaving kenny in is fine.  i just don't get the micheals for gutz substitution.  defensively or offensively.

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I go the opposite way.  I'd be happy with a Michaels/Lofton swap.  As someone mentioned last week in a game thread, I'm happy with Gutz going out there and playing everyday even if he doesn't really do anything special on offense...just because of his defense.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 4:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I personally like the lineup and this second guessing of Wedge is a little over the top.  He did a good job of managing the team last night save for in the first when Grady wasn't running to set the tone.  That said Grady has to get better jumps and needs to study the pitchers much better.  There will be no running game tonight with Pettite on the mound.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 4:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
not so much second guessing as trying to understand something that doesn't, at first blush, make much sense.

kenny is on fire, leaving him in left makes sense to me.  but preferring michaels to gutz in right vs pettitt confuses me.

michaels 2007 vs LHP:  287 359 441
gutz 2007 vs LHP:      330 366 553

not even close.  and the difference defensively is, in my opinion, considerable.  not that michaels is a hack--gutz is just that good.

one consideration is that micheals has been a bit hotter lately than gutz generally:

michaels sept/oct:  313 405 344
gutz sept/oct:      247 305 424

but i liked the walks and the patience last night from the gutz.  anyway, i don't get it.

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Trust in the Wedge.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 4:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
seriously.  why not, at this point.  i just want to get it, too.

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
We have a one game lead, and Wedge tries to give everyone at least a small share of the figurative pie, even if they're not the most likely candidates for the literal pie.  If necessary, it's easy to swap out Michaels or Lofton later on.  If J-Mike doesn't play now, when will he?

That's all I've got.  I don't have a grasp the playoffs.  I'd rather see Gutz in, but I'm trying to get psyched about Michaels just because..

by homelytourist on Oct 5, 2007 5:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
For the record, I didn't shower. And I'm wearing the exact same outfit I did yesterday.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I'm gonna be honest: so am I. And yes, I am including underwear.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 4:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
If they win today, do you take it to the next level, wear the same thing on Sunday??

by columbus714 on Oct 5, 2007 4:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
yes. Though I may wash it, it will stil be the same outfit though.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 4:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Do you even have to ask that question?
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Ha ha, you are right, stupid question. I can't wait for this to begin.

by columbus714 on Oct 5, 2007 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I took vacation today and I was out running errands with the ladyfriend.  We're out and she tells me that I should really consider getting a haircut.  I go the barber and I'm sitting there trying to figure  out the last day I had a haircut, what the Indians record was since then, and the potential ramifications.  She had to keep telling me that my hair had nothing to do with the Indians winning, but as I sit here with considerably less hair than I had before, I'm still not entirely convinced...

by Fundamentals on Oct 5, 2007 4:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I really like Curtis Granderson.  I know he's a Tiger...but I think I'd be very happy to have him on my team.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I know this might hurt some Indians fans here but I traded Sizemore for Graderson in fantasy baseball.  He is just a better hitter overall.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 4:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
He was this year. Hope that's not a keeper league.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 4:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
do you mean he scores more points in your league, or do you think he's a better hitter?

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Granderson may have had a slightly better season, but Sizemore is younger and is a more complete hitter.  We lament Sizemore's struggles against lefties (.242/.323/.393), but Granderson simply can't hit them at all (.202/.265/.366).  Plus, Sizemore walks twice as much.  I'll take Grady.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 4:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yeah, I think he'd be a great asset.  I've heard nothing but good things about him personally, as well.  Andy Van Slyke apparently said something to the effect of "If I had a daughter, I'd want Curtis to marry her.  That's how much I think of him as a person."
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Maybe I'm having a brain freeze, but I can't figure out how you can have a .375 BA in 10 at bats? How can you get 3.7 hits? Can someone explain what I'm missing?

by UndeniableMagistrate on Oct 5, 2007 4:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yahoo batter vs pitcher says he's 3 for 8 for .375.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 4:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
10 plate appearances.  8 at-bats.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 4:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
HEY, HEY HEY LETS GO TRIBE
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
i'm going with wedge at this point, even if i don't get it either.

look, i hated the the raffy-l, jensen, raffly-r decisions last night until i thought about it a bit more this morning.  

if carmona is a horse tonight, wedge made the perfect call: he nailed down game one, gave the three their first post-season experience with almost no pressure (where they dominated), and will not need them until sunday.

if carmona stumbles, we've got mastny (who i think has a pretty good era against the yanks this year) to go 2 or 3 and still can use raffy-l and lewis (raffy-l can go two days in a row and lewis threw like 8 pitches last night).  yes, this means we'd be depending on mastny, but at a certain point that's exactly the type of thing that turns out well for teams that go all the way.

yes...i'm getting a bit off-topic.  but i'm nervous as hell.  so forgive me.

anyhow, i guess the point is this: everyone hated hargrove for going by the book.  wedge ain't doing that, but isn't that what separates the competent managers from the ones who can influence the outcome of a game? isn't that exactly the type of manager we're looking for?

Nelson. Algren. Lives.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 5, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I didn't fault Wedge one second. He's got off-days up the wazoo. The Yankees are a couple of crooked numbers waiting to happen. That game needed won.

by fleerdon on Oct 5, 2007 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Which implies that Mastny couldn't have held a 9 run lead...right?

by Thommy on Oct 5, 2007 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I may have to go run up and down flights of stairs, I'm too amped up.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 4:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I just had a great work out before the game and I am chill but once the game starts I will be again yelling and screaming at the TV like a wild man.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Sorry to be late to the party, but what's the consensus on Wedge's bullpen use last night?  Was everybody as confused/peeved by it as I was?

by Thommy on Oct 5, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
i was confused, but i think he just wanted to give them some work after the days off and dispel the jitters.  not like they can't be used tonight.

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 4:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
SLAM THE DAMN DOOR. SHOW NO MERCY. THE DAMN YANKEES DESERVE IT.

Plus, Lewis threw all of 8 pitches. Betancourt not much more. Off day Saturday. Don't be peeved. Be inspired by the ruthlessness.

Turf Toe -- Sports skewered weakly (and weekly.)

by emd2k3 on Oct 5, 2007 4:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
and now, how many days has it been since joba and mariano pitched?

by emil minty on Oct 5, 2007 5:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Initially confused, but then realized it's brilliant. Off-days mean everyone can pitch every night. No problems.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I can see that - but why Perez 2 IP?  One if he was up and ready, fine...but the second I can't justify.

by Thommy on Oct 5, 2007 5:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Two things:

#1- I think it is very cool that STO doesn't broadcast during the playoff games...

#2- My TBS just went black screen... They need to fix this very soon or I will lose what is left of my mind...

by Fundamentals on Oct 5, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Hmm... we appear to be experiencing technical difficulties down here in Atlanta?

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Anyone notice how we apparently can only win with the ghost of '95? It's like Lofton is the only guy who produced on all these recaps.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Is anybody else's screen all f-d up?

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
3-17 at Yankee stadium?  Holy crap, dude.  Yeah, yeah, regular season, multiple years, but still... dude.  Gotta win today.

by maledicta on Oct 5, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Man, that blimp shot actually makes me miss Cleveland a little bit.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
The crass announcer are back at it again early.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I love how everyone's breaking out the stat that the Yankees have all these wins after losing game 1. What a joke, just come out & say that you really really want the Yankees to win.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
OMG A-ROD HAS NO HITS YET WHAT A CHOKER

by maledicta on Oct 5, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yankee Yankee Yankeee blah blah blah please just get to it.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
No matter what happens, this first AB is guaranteed to be more successful than last night's.  

by maledicta on Oct 5, 2007 5:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
uh oh, better appeal, that looked like a HR to me.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Craig Sager is helping out the cause by wearing an absolutely hideous outfit, just like he did last night.

by Thommy on Oct 5, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
he always wears one, this one is nothing compared to what he wears in the NBA playoffs

by 7foot3 on Oct 5, 2007 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
eat a dick Jeter...TBS already making excuses.  fuck your knee

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yeah, I'm eagerly anticipating the excuses already. Jeter's knee, Mxylpk's ankle, Giambi's lack of steroids. Whatever.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yes.  Get ahead of the hitters.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Carmona looks fucking filthy out there. Wow. I have to say, I was a little worried he'd be overthrowing & getting things up (a la Wang), but man. I love that kid.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
1-2-3

Please TBS, stop these Frank TV commercials they are ridiculous at this point.

Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Crack open an icy cold Carmona.  1st of many.

by maledicta on Oct 5, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Fausto...
the pitching version of the younger Manny?

All year he has just seemed completely unflappable, completely unfazed, and completely in control of what he does and how to do it.

Nelson. Algren. Lives.

by jonnykilbane on Oct 5, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Nice first innings by Fasuto. Got my 3 sons sitting watching with me, all excited about the Tribe.

by new zealand tribe fan on Oct 5, 2007 5:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I <3 Fausto.  So very very much.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I had a lot more confidence in Carmona coming into the series than I did in CC, quite frankly.  I expect Fausto to be disgusting

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I'll see your Jeter, and raise you a Grady

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
give Jeter a break he has a bum knee!!!

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Our hitters look locked in right now. How much would I love it if we put up some more crooked numbers tonight? Lots.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Those our the normal players, not lefties put in especially against Pettite, moron.

by Fundamentals on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
LET'S GO TRIBE!!!
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Leadoff single thats my boy.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Uh oh, here comes Caray with his "the Indians need to bring the running game" bullshit. They hit 4 homers last night, fucko. I think they're perfectly fine without stealing too many bases.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Damnit, Astrocab. You better hit a tater next time up.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Ok, can we not hit into first inning double plays.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Dangit Caberea. THat's a bad two for two.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
so, when Grady's stands on the 9...is he 9 feet off the base then?  what the hell is that thing supposed to say?

same start as last night.  i'd be ok if tonight went the same way.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
9 feet is the average lead of major leaguers.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I think the whole length of that bar is 9'.. but they haven't explained it too well. It's one of those things that nobody gives a shit about but they're going to keep showing cause they think it's nifty.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
The 9 is in the middle, there's an arrow.

by Justin Higgins on Oct 5, 2007 5:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I'll go with a repeat of Droob's first inning DP if we get a repeat of everything else from last night as well.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Hitting-wise of course.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Ok that was not awesome. I demand more home runs.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Holy shit. After last night, they STILL brought out that Carmona has no postseason experience.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Carmona was not really a "pick-up" by the Indians. That's not how I use the word "pick-up" in sports.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Does Baseball-Reference have Carmona's Dip/Non-Dip splits? Seem like whenever he's got that horseshoe in he gets an extra couple of mph on the ol' heater.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Tony Gwynn should stop saying "cookie." It sounds sort of gross.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Is Jorge arguing balls and strikes with the ump?

by Seattle Tribe Fan on Oct 5, 2007 5:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Gwynn saying Yakees are taking good hacks? They look pretty meak to me.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 5:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
What is Gwynn talking about?  Good hacks tonight already?  What!?

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I love seeing Posada bitching about the strike zone. See if Pettitte gets any calls.
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by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 5, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
the strike zone is already gargantuan tonight.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 5:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
That's very Fausto-esque right there. Sweeeeeet.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
better numbers across the board for the chach who just GIDP.  get off the Yankee nuts, TBS.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
So, and this is just a general question, how many highlight reels, comparison graphs or performance charts do you think the TBS crew made for the Indians total?

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I'm not sure how many, but I'm guessing 50% of them are related to pie

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I'm definitely thinking... not many.

Bruce Drennan said last night that he liked this announcing team, that they were fair and didn't focus on the Yankees more than the Indians.

Bruce Drennan obviously didn't listen to them.

Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
We've got to see some pitches.

Fucking Queen Latifah? Really?

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
She's actually pretty cool - I don't love her music but she's a pretty savvy businesswoman.

by Seattle Tribe Fan on Oct 5, 2007 5:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I just meant because she's from, I believe, New York.

WHERE'S DREW CAREY?

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
i'm anxious to hear Queen's analysis of this series

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Because they don't want to learn about the Indians. And another f***ing Yankees fan.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Queen Latifah calling Lebron disrespectful and touting breast cancer awareness month. Well played.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Best comment of the series so far from the TBS guys:  "We had the king last nite, the queen tonite, and Craig Sager looks like he got that outfit from Prince."

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Oct 5, 2007 5:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Why are we green lighting on 3-0 counts.

Ugh.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
3-0 Tapper, ok Garko is done swinging 3-0 this year.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
"Let's go Tribe" chant at the Jake. Love it.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Does Queen Latifa have a CLE connection?

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Can we please tag "big game" Petite already?

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Gah, it's the second inning and Im already thoroughly fed up with Tony Gwynn and crew.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Oct 5, 2007 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yeah, we stole their signs last night. That's why we plastered the Yankees.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Apparently they frequently call the "fat pitch" sign, which is why we kicked their asses last night.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
If the Indians were stealing signs... that would be awesome.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
And now we're allegedly stealing signs.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Random Brendly accusation of cheating by the Indians. I hate him more by the minute.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
That was an extremely stabilizing walk.

Hit a bomb, Kenny!

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
No need to steal signs if they BB us.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I think Kenny Lofton is a lot of people's favorite Indian

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Which is kind of sad, but nice, but sad.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Paranoid about us stealing signs? The great Joe Nossek doesn't coach for us anymore!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 5, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Who cares, when he gives us some credit and stops sucking off the Yankees, I might spell his name right.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I would say that 32 ABs at .125 is statistically significant.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
So, I think Jhonny's gonna have a big post-season. I love his at bats right now.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Kill Pettitte? Interesting strategy.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
HAHAHHAHA JHONNY STOLE SECOND
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
You sure he wasn't aiming for Pettitte w/ the bat, Tony?

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
JP stole a base, Ok we are never going to lose now.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
HOLY CRAP! The fattest, slowest SS in MLB just stole a base! Way to go Jhonny!

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
An amazing steal by Peralta? Whaaaaaaa?

It's the Twilight Zone, and I like it.

:-D

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
OH MAN GOOD HUSTLE THOUGH BABY
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Ok.  That was all really nice till he got sent around 3rd.  What were they thinking?

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Oh, that's Matsui in CF? I thought it was Damon.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Ok, Skinner. Listen. How many times are you going to get a guy thrown out by 10'.

These guys are slow:
Garko
Peralta
Hafner
Martinez

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
With two out I don't like it with Cabrera's arm.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Jhonny must have something against letting Kenny Lofton singles mean something.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Oct 5, 2007 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Well I would say something about not agreeing with Skinner sending a slow runner there, but someone would just yell "you'd complain if they DIDN'T send him!" at me.
Will children still wake up early to eagerly check the sports page to see who is leading the league in holds?

by smtp on Oct 5, 2007 5:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
K-Love still cooking, though.  Pettitte is very stable.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Skinner's got some issues, but I don't hate that call -- you make him make the perfect throw, which he unfortunately did.

by zempf on Oct 5, 2007 5:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
If the ball is two steps to Posada's right then Peralta is safe and we have a lead. I'll go ahead and say "eh, not the worst thing ever"

by Justin Higgins on Oct 5, 2007 5:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I think Peralta thought he got faster today, too.  He did steal a base.

by DontCallMeJoey on Oct 5, 2007 5:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I wish Fausto was uber locked in as opposed to just sort of locked in.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 5:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooob

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Uh, I think he was safe.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Anyone catch on the replay whether or not Skinner actually gave Peralta a signal?

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
He's the third base coach, he doesn't "not give a signal"

by Justin Higgins on Oct 5, 2007 5:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Melky Cabrera is the Yankees energizer bunny? The guy is fatter  than Frank Caliendo.

by ASP on Oct 5, 2007 5:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Melky Cabrera ... huh.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I don't like the TBS announcers calling all the pitches before he pitches.

by Justin Higgins on Oct 5, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Ok, now our offense is going to come alive.
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
6 hits for NY in two games....3 HR!!!!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 5, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Fuck. See I'm supposed to be at home with my Tribe hat on watching the game on TV-not gamecast....Fucking early starts
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 5, 2007 5:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
I think Fausto's doing fine. 1 run in 3 innings and with no real threats is hardly struggling. Let's just hit something.

by Justin Higgins on Oct 5, 2007 5:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
He just made a bad pitch but his command is good and he is in control.  Not to worry unless our offense dies.
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by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Yanks on pace to score 3 like last night.

by Voltaire on Oct 5, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Right before they went to commercial, they showed Fausto nodding his head after the home run pitch, looking like "All right, who the fuck cares about that, you ain't getting shit more" with a little grin on his face.

I love him.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Just got to get that one back.  They send one of ours to the bullpen, we send two of theirs to the mezzanine.

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 5:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
What is this pitch he's throwing like 94 mph with horizontal break, is that his slider?

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Oct 5, 2007 5:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
That would be a ridiculously fast slider. It's probably his 2 seamer with a little tilt on it.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 5:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Funny you should ask, Faustosinkingfastball, that's Fausto's sinking fastball.

BP has Fausto's pitch chart (free content)

by APV on Oct 5, 2007 6:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Hey guys ... small request here from your moderators.

I hate the Yankees tilt to the announcers, too.

Go ahead and bitch about it.

Be profane, too.

But let's stop short of actually describing the sex act the media members are performing on the Yankees.

Because that kind of comment is always going to leave a bad taste.

So to speak.

Thank you.

by Jay on Oct 5, 2007 5:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
OK, let's get that one back, and a few more.

While we're at commercial (I broke down and paid for MLB Audio), interesting blurb at BP in regards to what Fausto's been throwing.

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=577

Oops, commercial's over.

by ManchildinBeantown on Oct 5, 2007 5:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Wow, interest read. So, Fausto's sinker has 2x as much movement as the next guy's. Awesome.

by gte619n on Oct 5, 2007 6:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
J-MIKE BABY J-MIKE
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008.

by Gradyforpresident on Oct 5, 2007 5:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Wedge is genius starting Michaels and Lofton. 2-2
Playoffs! LGT resident kineisologist

by E5 on Oct 5, 2007 5:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Could Michaels have done that in the 2nd if Peralta hadn't run out of the inning?

by palcal on Oct 5, 2007 6:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
What's this productive out shit?  What are we, the goddam Angels now?

I demand a three-run homer!

by Jay on Oct 5, 2007 6:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Shouldn't Brenly be praising the small ball?

by jjfoosk on Oct 5, 2007 6:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Well, that's cool, too, I guess. C'mon Grady.

by ManchildinBeantown on Oct 5, 2007 6:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 5, 2007
Grady, just freaking sac. Frustrating.

by afh4 on Oct 5, 2007 6:02 PM EDT