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Game Thread: October 8, 2007

Cleveland at New York, 7:37 PM (TBS)
American League Division Series, Game 4 (CLE 2-1)

Starting Pitchers:

Cleveland: Paul Byrd (192.1 IP, 4.59 ERA, 65 PRC)
New York: Chien-Ming Wang (199.1 IP, 3.70 ERA, 91 PRC)

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Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I've been refreshing for the last hour straight, waiting for the Game thread.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Also, is it just me or is there now a giant space between the entry and the ads, i.e. a HUGE white space?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
It's not just you.

Also, when I click on 'reply' my browser opens up a new tab. Anyone else experiencing this?

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by Ryan on Oct 8, 2007 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Yeah, I've been screwing with the templates.  I've wanted the right-side links to show up, with the Diaries and other stuff, but so far it has this side-effect.

Maybe I'll get zempf to look at it with me ... I'm a little rusty.

by Jay on Oct 8, 2007 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Let me know what you need, sir. Where you have base target="blank" in the template, that's what's making all the links open in a new window.

by zempf on Oct 8, 2007 6:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Yeah, that has nothing to do with what I'm doing.  I didn't put that in.

by Jay on Oct 8, 2007 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
It's in the sidebar table, so it must be getting included with that somehow.

by zempf on Oct 8, 2007 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Ah, I found it.  The sidebar code was changing the behavior of the main page, where before the sidebar wasn't part of this particular main page.

by Jay on Oct 8, 2007 6:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
glad it's not just me. And for some reason, when I clicked 'reply to this', it opened in a new window.

by ASP on Oct 8, 2007 6:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Remain calm everybody.

by zempf on Oct 8, 2007 6:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Anyone watching the game on TBS? If so, anyone thinking of muting the entire game?
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 6:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I've muted games 1-3 and gone with Hammy.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Unfortunately, I don't have such an option. I live in Arizona. I suppose I could pay mlb.com and get it that way, couldn't I?
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 6:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I should explain. I buy the Gameday Audio package every year, so that's why this is a possibility for me.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Isn't Gameday audio like.. a couple of pitches behind for you? If it synched up better I'd do that too.

by zempf on Oct 8, 2007 6:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Oh yeah. It's about 2 pitches behind. I don't mind, though, I'd rather not spend the whole game yelling at the announcers.

Besides, it makes Hammy's time machine HR calls awesome!

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I think I'd rather have silence.

You know you've got a problem when the National broadcast is so shitty you have to go without sound.

Is it just me? Us?

-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Most national ESPN Radio stations are airing the game.  The announcers aren't great, but they are better than the TBS crew and it can be lined up.  

by Fundamentals on Oct 8, 2007 7:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Bo..I'm in AZ also and mute it most of the time.

I also get on the cell with my son in Long Island and we talk over the last few innings.

by Cactus Jack on Oct 8, 2007 7:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
If you guys have Tivo, you can try to coorindate with ESPN radio or MLB audio. I'm going to record the game and delay the 4-5 seconds to line up with Hammy. If it doesn't work out, I'm going with mute. These guys are bad enough because they aren't familiar with either team, but the pro-Yankee puppy love of Chip Caray makes me uncontrollably angry.

by steincat on Oct 8, 2007 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Prediction: Wedge places no limits on the bullpen and goes for the jugular, confident that C.C and Carmona can combine for a Game 5 win with little or no bullpen support.
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by crazymoloh on Oct 8, 2007 6:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I would assume it's Byrd + bullpen, with emphasis on the bullpen. If it gets to a game 5, it's Rested Sabathia + Rested Carmona.
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by Ryan on Oct 8, 2007 6:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I'm definately drinking during this game.  I was at game 1 (drinking, of course) and got myself a beer right before the Tribe tied it in game 2.  I didn't drink last night - you saw the result.

I'll drink for the rest of the playoffs if I have to, dammit.  I'm just that kind of fan.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 8, 2007 6:40 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Wow, you're really making the sacrifice.
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 6:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
So you stop going to the rage meetings and now you need AA also?! Joking aside, I'm listening to this one at work with a few beers handy. I can't handle the pressure without beer. Maybe we should give Pronk a few...

by columbus714 on Oct 8, 2007 6:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
You can drink at work? Are you hiring?
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
At 32,500 a year you are allowed to drink on the job!

by columbus714 on Oct 8, 2007 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I wouldn't call what he does "work."  Unless your definition of work includes sending out mass e-mails to friends and family.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 8, 2007 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Oh, so he's "that guy."
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Uhh that comment was for Brutus. It'll only make sense to him.

by columbus714 on Oct 8, 2007 6:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I'm doing this for all of you, because I love you guys, I love the Tribe, and I LOVE THE COBRA.

When bunting is a crime, only criminals will bunt.

by BostonWahoo on Oct 8, 2007 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
The ULTIMATE sacrifice. You may want to alert friends and family, there's a strong chance you could end up in jail tonight.
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Awesome.
Chicks dig the long ball.

by TribeNYC on Oct 8, 2007 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I've never even seen that stuff before.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Its not.... ummm... what's the word?

... good.

When bunting is a crime, only criminals will bunt.

by BostonWahoo on Oct 8, 2007 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
That is an understatement. We used to drink that in high school at $2.09 after tax.

by columbus714 on Oct 8, 2007 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Oy. That's cheap.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Holy margins, Batman!

by Ryan on Oct 8, 2007 6:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Uh ... Jay? Ryan? We're in the middle of the page here.

PANIC.

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
The gambling world thinks starting Byrd tonight is a bad move.  The current money line is NYY -230.  That's about 11 to 5 odds in favor of the Yankees winning. Wedge is either a genius or is going to get crucified.

by ShawnK on Oct 8, 2007 6:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Actually, this whole white space slash margins crazyness is making me laugh really loudly.

I also started drinking at 3. So ...

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Sopcast channel for this game?

by columbus714 on Oct 8, 2007 6:47 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
It's like Richard Dawson in The Running Man.  Ladies and gentlemen, we're experiencing technical difficulties, please bear with us!  

by cheech99 on Oct 8, 2007 6:49 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
It's like Richard Dawson in The Running Man.  Ladies and gentlemen, we're experiencing technical difficulties, please bear with us!  

by cheech99 on Oct 8, 2007 6:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I fear that we'll be back in Cleveland. I'm very skeptical of Byrd, and I like Byrd. I just don't like Byrd versus New York.

by world dictator on Oct 8, 2007 6:50 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Byrd 3.2
Laffey 1.1
Lewis 1.2
Perez 1.1
Betancourt 1.0

Bring on the Sox!!!!

Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 8, 2007 6:52 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Interesting, but I'm thinking more like this:
Byrd 3
Perez 2
Lewis 1
Betancourt 2
Borowski 1

by DaytonDogg on Oct 8, 2007 6:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Byrd 6.1
Lewis 1.1
Betancourt 1.2

BALL GAME

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
If gambling were legal, I'd put a hefty sum of money on the fact that we're going to see Perez at some point in this game.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 8, 2007 6:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Yeah, I'm not sure why I went with Lewis. Whatever.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
As you can see, I've been drinking for a while, since this adds up to more than 9 innings.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Not a good sign since that would mean a walkoff win for the Yankees.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 8, 2007 7:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I would be happy if we could get 4 out of Byrd and get rid of Borowski at the end.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 8, 2007 6:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Though that would be ideal, I think we see Borowski in a save situation still.

by DaytonDogg on Oct 8, 2007 7:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
shudder...
-Bo

by bodiaz74 on Oct 8, 2007 7:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Please no Borowski.

by columbus714 on Oct 8, 2007 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I'm thinkin' Byrd gets pulled in the 3rd. The Yankees don't believe in smoke and mirrors. Hopefully Byrd has used the break to incorporate voodoo, santeria and other Pagan ritual into his pitching.

by gte619n on Oct 8, 2007 6:53 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
If anyone cares, BP still gives us an 82% chance of winning the series.  I'm not sure their exact methods, but they say that they factor pitching matchups into their simulations so I assume that's with Byrd pitching tonight.

Not that any computer simulation is going to make my nerves settle down.

by Buckeye Brad on Oct 8, 2007 6:55 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Use alcohol. It's sure helped me.

GO TRIBE!!!!!!!!

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 6:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Also, I'm not sure of this Yankee dominance of Byrd... here are some of the career numbers:

A-Rod: 4-15; 1 HR; 1 BB; 6 K's
Abreu: 2-5; 2 BB
Cabrera: 3-5; 1 HR; 1 BB
Cano: 2-8; 1 2B; 1 HR; 1 K
Damon: 3-19; 1 2B; 1BB
Giambi: 3-14; 1 HR; 2 BB; 3K's
Jeter: 11-27; 3 2B; 1 3B; 1 BB; 7 K's
Matsui: 1-5
Mienkalphebet: 6-19; 3 2B; 1 3B; 2 BB; 2 K's
Posada: 3-8; 2 2B; 2 BB; 2K's

Really only Jeter has significant sustained success and Byrd has been surprisingly solid against A-Rod, Cano, Damon, and Giambi.

Thoughts?

by DaytonDogg on Oct 8, 2007 6:59 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I feel like our Byrd panicking reflects more on our Cleveland sports fandom than our faith (or lack thereof) in Byrd.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
As an added bonus, Jeter has pretty much stunk up the series so far, so he may not do much against Byrd.

by zempf on Oct 8, 2007 7:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Well, I know that in a five game series, a team with a 2-0 lead is something like 38-5 to win the series. That might be 41-5 after this year.

by gte619n on Oct 8, 2007 7:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
30 minutessssss
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
GET YOUR SOUP READY AND AVOID PIZZA
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Can we start an over/under on when you'll pass out tonight??

by Nat on Oct 8, 2007 7:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Go ahead and start it but there's no way in hell I'm missing any second of this game. I'll keep posting if I black out, guaranteed.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I've never had soup this season, so I will continue to avoid it.  But, I did have pizza last night, and now I will avoid it at all cost.

by DaytonDogg on Oct 8, 2007 7:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I wish I could get WTAM tonight here in NY...I can't stand listening to NY sports talk anymore today!
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 8, 2007 7:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Could 7:37 get here any slower?
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Oct 8, 2007 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
It's so agonizing. 20 minutes!
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
I have a distinct memory of Paul Byrd beating the Yankees in New York during the ALDS the year he was with the Angels (2005).  Does anybody remember thisl?  
Railing against the sacrifice bunt since 2000.

by jdudas on Oct 8, 2007 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Considering the Angels faced the White Sox in '05 during the ALDS, no.

But, yes, he did beat the White Sox. HIRE PAUL BYRD

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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Yeah. You read today's column? Specifically, the tag line about writing haikus to midges?
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Yeah, that was cool.  There is a surprisingly large number of Tribe fans here in Iowa City  I am finding.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on Oct 8, 2007 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
Someone with an Indians jersey walked by my apartment window on Friday. I'm beginning to discover more and more, as well.
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by Gradyforpresident on Oct 8, 2007 7:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Game Thread: October 8, 2007
You're thinking of this game, since it's the only one he pitched in that series. Judging from the line there, I don't think you want to think too much about that game.

by zempf on Oct 8, 2007 7:18 PM EDT