Let's Go Tribe!: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:



Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
New Blog: Backing the Pack for NC State Fans!


Minor League Free Agents

Baseball America has this year's list of minor league free agents up on their website (no subscription required).  These are guys who haven't been added to their team's 40-man roster and have completed the exclusive control period of their service time.

These guys are now free to sign minor or major league deals with any franchise.

The Indians have 16:
Bobby Brownlie
Jake Dittler
Mike Koplove
Cliff Politte
Jim Ed Warden
Eric Dubose
Mariano Gomez
Mike Rose
Trent Durrington
Argenis Reyes
Keith Ginter
Rodney Choy Foo
Anthony Medrano
Mike Rouse
Dennis Malave
Jonathan Van Every

Most of these guys shouldn't illicit more than a yawn.  I'd expect a few of the guys, especially some of the relief pitchers, to resign with Cleveland.  A guy like Van Every, who'd probably be a decent 5th OF on a NL team but who's way down the line in Cleveland, is probably gone.  Aside from Van Every, Mariano Gomez and Rodney Choy Foo are probably the most interesting guys.  Gomez was once (a long time ago) on the Indians 40-man.  He's struggled with finger/hand problems but was pretty successful out of the bullpen in Akron this year (albeit with mediocre peripherals).  Choy Foo, everyone's favorite Hawaiian, is the kind of guy with an outside chance of being a future Casey Blake super-utility kind of guy.  

0 recs | Comment 26 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Some former Indians that are available:

Jason Dubois, Earl Snyder, Ernie Young, Dan Denham, Jolbert Cabrera, Zach Day, Marshall McDougall, Jake Gautreau, Einar Diaz, Ricardo Rincon, Ivan Ochoa, Lee Gronkiewicz, Scott Sauerbeck

by APV on Nov 2, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Almost every name on that list made me chuckle.

by fleerdon on Nov 2, 2007 5:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
I was tempted to provide an amusing comment with each one...but I figured people could come up with their own

by APV on Nov 2, 2007 5:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
boy there are some real "beau allred syndrome" all-stars on that list!

...those players who, for a 12-24 month stretch during rebuilding phases, you somehow convince yourself are on the verge of becoming valuable parts of an emerging "shock the world" team.

until reality gets a hold of you.  and, a few years later, when you hear their name and remember that team, you think to yourself: "god, i was abslutely delusional."

bill selby is the first inductee into the "beau allred syndrome ring of champions" for being a living, breathing personification of the malady.

waiting for marte.

by jonnykilbane on Nov 2, 2007 6:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
I think Einar Diaz actually has a World Series ring (St. Louis).

by Toxicadam on Nov 2, 2007 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Nope, Gary Bennett was the Cards backup last year. Diaz only played in 3 games for LA.

by joecardsfan on Nov 3, 2007 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Bring back Jolby because he's the man.

by Kos on Nov 2, 2007 6:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
I notice that Choy Foo's baseball cube page lists his nickname as "Braddah".  Was I the only one unaware of this?

by dgcambridge on Nov 2, 2007 6:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
What's the story with Cliff Politte? I forgot we had him. I know he was working his way back from an injury, but has the Tribe given up on him??

by CaptainPenny on Nov 2, 2007 6:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
We signed him on a 1-year minor league deal.  By default he's a free agent again.  He also wasn't any good and I believe he got hurt again this season.

by APV on Nov 2, 2007 6:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
If I'm not mistaken, aside from those who have been free agents before -- that is, they were on one-year deals -- I believe these guys have to make it through Rule 5 before they become free agents.

If they're selected in the Rule 5 draft, they get added to that team's 40-man roster and are on a major league contract.  For that matter, their current team could still add them to the 40-man and keep them.

by Jay on Nov 3, 2007 12:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
I guess you are right.  So for the guys entering minor-league free agency for the first time the Indians will have to decide by the end of the month whether to add them to the 40-man or not.  

by APV on Nov 3, 2007 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
My understanding is that (aside from those who were free agents before) these guys are actual free agents, but if you sign one to a minor league contract and don't put him on the 40-man, then he will be exposed to the Rule 5.  Is that different than what you are saying in your first paragraph?

by dgcambridge on Nov 4, 2007 11:09 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Well, for that very reason, you wait until after the Rule 5 to do any minor league contracts for 2008.  I believe that all 2007 minor leaguers (who haven't been released) can be added to the 40-man in November, prior to becoming free agents.

by Jay on Nov 4, 2007 11:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Van Every should get Aubrey's spot.

by Toxicadam on Nov 3, 2007 3:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
What's with Aubrey??  I know he's had some injury problems, but sheesh...  

My cousin was a SR at Tulane when Aubrey was a freshman and they went to the CWS, and Aubrey absolutely raked.  I was pumped when the Tribe drafted him.  Not so much anymore...

by joecardsfan on Nov 3, 2007 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
  I think Brownlie would be worth holding onto...he was a 1st rounder not all that long ago, and if I remember he pitched pretty OK this season.

by Rusnakjd on Nov 3, 2007 5:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Brownlie is an interesting one, even though he just turned 27 -- or maybe I should say, he's still just 27.  He was the 21st pick in the 2002 draft, and the Indians took Guthrie with the very next pick.  Just like Guthrie, he was rep'ed by Boras, dropped a dozen slots or so because of high bonus demands, and he held out until after the end of the season.

How ironic would it be if the Indians helped Bronwlie make it after not succeeding with Guthrie?

There is, of course, a key contractual difference.  Boras got Guthrie a major league contract, meaning he had to be on the 40-man immediately and would be out of options after 2006.  Brownlie didn't get a deal like that and has never been on the 40-man roster -- he was in fact exposed to Rule 5 last year but not selected.

The main point being, if we decide to add Brownlie, he still has all three option years remaining.  And the other point being, if Guthrie had had a normal minor league deal, we'd still have him.  Still, you have to wonder how the Cubs got so sick of this guy that they just released him.  It's not like he was costing them anything significant to keep around.

by Jay on Nov 3, 2007 11:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the interview, Jay! :-)
Hello Jay,

Thanks - I was not aware that Brownlie was at one time more of a power groundball pitcher.  I thought he was more a classic power pitcher (I knew he threw mid-90s at one time, but didn't realize his fastball had great sink at one point.)  Also, I didn't realize about the 3 option years still remaining - that's always a nice "bonus" to have when it comes to a Minor League FA in my opinion.

That would make me rethink my original post, especially in regards to his low strikeouts.  I wouldn't mind keeping him, especially since the Indians' organization has done some considerable work (especially with his front side) to help him improve, plus the fact it probably wouldn't cost much to keep him, so yes, I would try to keep him if at all possible - he could be a nice late-bloomer, perhaps have some success at the ML level at some point like Guthrie is doing for the Orioles.

Again, thanks for the article post - it certainly helps to clarify Bobby Brownlie's position and abilities.  :-)

May the Tribe be great in 2008! :-)

by indiansfan on Nov 7, 2007 12:54 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He might not be a bad guy to hold on to, but
if we lost him, I'm not sure it would hurt that much either.

Hello Rusnakjd,

According to The Baseball Cube, here are Brownlie's 2007 stats at AA Akron:

9 G, 8 GS, 1-2, 3.17 ERA, 48.1 IP/42 H/21 R/17 ER/5 HR/14 BB/37 K/4 WP, 1.16 WHIP

He just turned 27 in October, and he was drafted in the 1st Rd. of the 2002 Draft by the Cubs, one spot ahead of the Indians drafting Jeremy Guthrie.

Why I say that it probably wouldn't hurt much if we did lose him is because, some over at MinorLeagueBall.com who have heard and seen him more say that his stuff has regressed a bit from the days when he was drafted in the 1st Rd.  (Sorry, can't find the link - this was a few months back when this was mentioned.)  I don't recall if he had surgery (I think he did, but am not entirely sure of that,) but I think he has missed some time in the past with an injury, which hasn't helped his progression through the Minors.

Plus, looking over his track record more, he still hasn't totally figured out AAA - he had a decent year at AAA Iowa at age 24 in 2005:

6-7, 4.74 ERA, 27 G/14 GS/104.1 IP/98 H/56 R/55 ER/11 HR/42 BB/73 K/4 WP/1 BK, 1.34 WHIP

but wasn't all that great mostly coming out of the AAA Iowa bullpen in 2006 (SSS understood):

0-3, 10.80 ERA, 8 G/1 GS/11.2 IP/24 H/15 R/14 ER/4 HR/6 BB/14 K, 2.57 WHIP

As a reliever, he might be an interesting option, but outside of the 8 games he appeared in for AAA Iowa in 2006 (14 K in 11.2 IP,) his K rate really hasn't benefited that much from moving to the bullpen (staying between 6-7 K/9 IP for the most part, which is decent, but not great,) so I don't know if he'd be a high-K reliever at the ML level.

I think if he stays, he could be a nice option, but he'd really have to perform better than he did in 2007 (including a very poor AA postseason that included giving up 6 ER in 3.1 IP in Akron's final game of their season against the Yankees' AA EL-Champion Trenton team) to really force the issue (and 8 of the 9 games he appeared in for AA Akron in 2007 was as a starter,) as I think we have younger, better options with more potential than Brownlie.  Therefore, I don't think losing him would hurt that much.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

May the Tribe be great in 2008! :-)

by indiansfan on Nov 3, 2007 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: He might not be a bad guy to hold on to, but
I assume it's in the interview Jay posted, but Brownlie went to the Atlantic League for the last of '06/start of '07 and dominated to find his way back to ML ball.

by Voltaire on Nov 4, 2007 10:27 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
The Indians dropped right-handers Mike Koplove and Matt Miller and infielder Luis Rivas from the 40-man roster. Koplove and Rivas were outrighted to Class AAA Buffalo. Miller was released. Rivas rejected the outright and became a free agent. The Indians' 40-man roster is at 34 in preparation for December's Rule 5 draft

From the PD...

by APV on Nov 6, 2007 7:14 AM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Re: Minor League Free Agents
Wow, what was the deal with Miller, I always got the impression he was close to helping and seemed a decent option

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Nov 6, 2007 7:24 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Constantly updated CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Start posting about the Indians »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recent FanPosts

Dv-pabst_small
Your 2009 American League All-Stars
Hansonnnnn_small
In regards to Victor Martinez and Ryan Garko
Junkballer_small
The Struggles of Uncle Jhonny
Burgandy_1__small
Is Our Fans Learning?
Indiansfan-possibleavatarforlgt_minorleagueball__small
It's Time to Begin Working Toward 2010!
Hand_small
Shapiro's Latin American Endeavors
Junkballer_small
Anatomy of a Wasted Season
Small
Seeking Jamie Moyer
Jaketaylor_small
Start it with Shapiro
Jaret_small
Kerry Wood - 3 and out?

Post_icon New FanPost All FanPosts Carrot-mini

Featured Poll

Poll
Biggest 2009 Breakout
Asdrubal Cabrera
84 votes
Jhonny Peralta
63 votes
Anthony Reyes
51 votes
Jensen Lewis
4 votes
Matt LaPorta
70 votes
David Huff
25 votes
Scott Lewis
14 votes
Aaron Laffey
12 votes
Tony Sipp
13 votes
Ben Francisco
28 votes
Travis Hafner
96 votes

460 votes | Poll has closed

BUY THE BOOK

Indians Annual 2009 from Maple Street Press

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Wedge Won't be Fired Midseason
Martin Shines at AAA Syracuse
Gotta love the media
Herges DFA, Abreu Up
Independence Day Rumor Rundown
View From the Booth: Carmona to the Clippers
Meloan dealt to Rays
Newsflash: Zombie Marte Sighted by Fangraphs
Nyjer Morgan is a Valuable Asset...
Indians international prospect ages three years overnight

Post_icon New FanShot All FanShots Carrot-mini

SweetBabooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Sweet Baboo, now with glitter


Managers

Seagull_on_sale_pier_small Ryan

Walter_small Jay

Authors

3444ant_black_small APV

47b8dd28b3127cceb64839d9746800000026102bauwjrq3za_small afh4

Official Partner of Yahoo! Sports