2008 Prediction Thread (Hot Stove Edition)
It is abundantly clear to me that I can't wait till spring training to start pretending that I know what the season will bring. With much of the 2007 core remaining intact, only a few questions need be answered with regard to the roster. Still, there are some fun questions to ponder over - will Franklin put up better numbers against RHP's, who takes over pie duties from Nixon, and so on. To get the ball rolling, here are some questions bound to be on everyone's mind.....

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(2) _____ will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
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(3) Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go?
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(4) What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008?
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(5) Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player?
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(6) _____ will be the Tribe's left fielder by season's end.
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(7) The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be ____ (High impact, makes it on the 25 man roster before May)
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(8) The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be ____ (Fills a void on the roster and arrives sometime after August)
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(9) _____ will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training (only Adam Miller wouldn't qualify since he's the only Tribe prospect consistently in the top 25)
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(10) The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a _____ (give the player's position)
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TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in ____ place.
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(2) Jeremy Sowers pitches the most innings as the #5 starter.
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(3) Lee is gone. Milwaukee, NYM, and Arizona all need starting depth after their front two.
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(4) Gutz - 20HRs, .290/.350/.480
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(5) The Indians give Marte more than 57 ABs and he wins the job!
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(6) The Dellucci/Michaels platoon will stay healthy and productive in 2008.
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(7) Jeremy Sowers will be awesome in 2008.
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(8) Jordan Brown comes up with some big hits during the stretch run.
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(9) Wes Hodges cracks BA's top 50 prospects this year.
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(10) The Indians will acquire a left field project, either in the form of Carlos Quentin or one the Rangers' minor league OFs
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TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in 4th place.
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Nov 26, 2007 1:59 PM EST
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Nov 26, 2007 8:18 PM EST
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- No, I don't think CC will sign before the season. I think he wants to go to the West Coast. The Giants are a danger, as he'd be able to bat there (and they're willing to spend crazy money).
- I agree; Sowers will pitch the most innings among 5th starters.
- I agree that Lee is the most likely to be traded. They've obviously grown weary of his act and he's marketable.
- Gut will hit .260 to .270 with around 20 HR's and 50-60 RBI's.
- Marte
- Indians LF will be either Ben Francisco/Choo/Michaels combo or an outfielder not currently on the team.
- Marte. I think Sowers will be adequate but not high impact.
- Adam Miller
- Wes Hodges. I agree.
- A left fielder
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Nov 26, 2007 2:22 PM EST
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Yes. A lot.
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(2) __ will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
Can a brother get a lil' laff up here?
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(3) Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go?
-Lee. NYM.
(4) What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008?
-.275/25
(5) Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player?
-Marte
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-Dellicheals
(7) The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be __ (High impact, makes it on the 25 man roster before May)
-Marte
(8) The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be __ (Fills a void on the roster and arrives sometime after August)
-JVE!
No. Uhh. Kenny Lofton, reacquired in a trade for McBride.
(9) __ will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training (only Adam Miller wouldn't qualify since he's the only Tribe prospect consistently in the top 25)
-Beau Weglarz.
(10) The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a _
-Minor League OF.
TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in 3rd place.
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Nov 26, 2007 2:26 PM EST
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.275/.320/.490
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Nov 26, 2007 2:28 PM EST
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- No.
- Aaron Laffey.
- Cliff Lee to Milwaukee.
- 22, .282/.335/.485
- Casey Blake.
- Ben Francisco.
- Ben Francisco (by the way, I don't think he, or anyone will have close to the impact Fausto had this past year).
- Adam Miller.
- Jeff Stevens.
- Already happened - a RP.
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Nov 26, 2007 3:10 PM EST
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So I'm changing my 10 to: OF (probably a young LF to step in in 2009). Of course, if the LF is good enough, that screws up my BenFran predictions. So we'll see.
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Nov 26, 2007 3:13 PM EST
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-Yes, he will sign. 5 (additional) yrs., 100 mil., no trade clause, incentives
(2) __ will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
-Laffey
(3) Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go?
-Lee, Arizona
(4) What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008?
-22/.270/.340/.480
(5) Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player?
-Blake (Hodges will tear it up, Marte becomes expendable, Blake-Wedgie man crush continues)
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-Quentucci
(7) The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be __ (High impact, makes it on the 25 man roster before May)
-Stevens
(8) The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be __ (Fills a void on the roster and arrives sometime after August)
-Carlos Quentin
(9) __ will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training (only Adam Miller wouldn't qualify since he's the only Tribe prospect consistently in the top 25)
-Matt Whitney
(10) The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a _
-LF
TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in _4th_ place.
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Nov 26, 2007 3:28 PM EST
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(2) laffey
(3) none of them, maybe micheals.
(4) 18; 270, 310, 460 (300 ABs)
(5) blake/gomez
(6) fran-lucci
(7) does j-lew count here? there's not going to be another fausto.
(8) tony sipp
(9) i like hodges
(10) alex cora type
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Nov 26, 2007 3:34 PM EST
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- Yes. Done creatively, but with base numbers of 5/96.
- Laffey. Takes the job in spring training and doesn't give it up.
- Lee, to some NL team willing to overpay for a FORMER 18 GAME WINNER!!!!!111
- 24, .259/.316/.472
- Marte, Inshallah.
- Michaels/Dellucci.
- LAFFEY TAFFEY (Mmm ... groundballs.)
- Insert Minor League Relief Pitcher. Sean Smith?
- Beau Mills, Wes Hodges.
- Minor League OF, young starting pitcher(s).
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Nov 26, 2007 3:52 PM EST
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yes, 5 years 95 million
(2) __ will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
laffey
(3) Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go?
Cliff Lee, Pittsburgh
(4) What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008?
20, .263/.312./453
(5) Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player?
Blake
(6) _
Jason Bay
(7) The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be __ (High impact, makes it on the 25 man roster before May)
Noone, I can't see anyone making it on the 25 man roster before May.
(8) The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be __ (Fills a void on the roster and arrives sometime after August)
Adam Miller
(9) __ will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training (only Adam Miller wouldn't qualify since he's the only Tribe prospect consistently in the top 25)
Wes Hodges & Nick Weglarz
(10) The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a _
LF
TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in __ place.
5th
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Nov 26, 2007 4:04 PM EST
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Yes. 5 and 90, plus big incentives, plus vesting options for a sixth year based on innings pitched.
(2) __ will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
Laffey.
(3) Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go?
A package of Lee, Shoppach, Francisco, and David Huff for something bigger than any of us realists expect. Team undetermined.
(4) What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008?
.260/.320./.485, 22hr
(5) Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player?
Indians trade a can of bug spray and a death ball to the Cardinals for Scott Rolen, who does his best Brook Jacoby impression for us after the AS break, then participates in some sort of ALCS heroics.
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Michucci
(7) The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be __ (High impact, makes it on the 25 man roster before May)
Miami will be underwater by the time another Indian has a Faustian year.
(8) The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be __ (Fills a void on the roster and arrives sometime after August)
Adam Miller in late relief?
(9) __ will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training (only Adam Miller wouldn't qualify since he's the only Tribe prospect consistently in the top 25)
Weglarz
(10) The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a _
...ham sandwich, which will then be duct taped to the back of CC's new contract
TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in __ place.
Shouldn't the tiebreaker be something with more than three possible answers?
4th
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Nov 26, 2007 5:32 PM EST
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- C.C. realizes he wants to be an Indian, about 5/100.
- Jeremy Sowers because Laffey will get a lot of innings as the #4 pitcher. Somebody gets injured.
- Lee, Mets.
- 18, .268/.305/.480
- Marte
- Milledge
- Sowers has a nice bounce back year
- Jeff Stevens
- Josh Rodriguez, boosts the BA, continues to draw walks, hit for power, and moves to second, where he proves to be a capable defender.
- Milledge
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Nov 26, 2007 5:59 PM EST
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- No
- Laff
- Lee (Giants)
- 17, .274,.340,.422
- Blake
- Raul Ibanez
- Sowers
- Adam Miller to replace Rafy's role when Jobo goes on the DL and Rafy becomes the closer.
- Josh Rodriguez
- LFer
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Nov 26, 2007 7:04 PM EST
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- Will C.C re-sign with the Indians before the start of the season? If so, what do you expect the terms of the new agreement to be (years and dollars)? No, he will resign in April. 5 years, $87MM? Some kind of no-trade clause and a vesting option for the sixth year?
- Jeremy Sowers will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
- Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go? Lee. To the Mets or Cubs.
- What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008? 19, .271/.351/.474. The prelude to a breakout 2009 where he finds that power stroke and lays off outside breaking balls.
- Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player? Andy Marte. The guy autographed a ball for me and we chatted for a couple minutes. I can't not root for him. I'm a sucker like that.
- Matt Murton will be the Tribe's left fielder by season's end. I can dream.
- The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be If I knew, he wouldn't be the same surprise Fausto was. Let's say Marte. "Miguel who?" signs fill Jacob's Field.
- The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be Sean Smith. Jeff Stevens. I dunno. See my last answer.
- Nick Weglarz will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training
- The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a left fielder.
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Nov 26, 2007 7:18 PM EST
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Yes. 5/93.
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(2) __ will pitch the most number of innings as the Indians' #5 starter.
Sowers.
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(3) Who is most likely to be traded this offseason - Barfield, Lee, Shoppach, Borowski, Sabathia? Where does this player go?
Lee. Multi-player/prospect deal which brings us Carlos Gonzalez.
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(4) What kind of numbers (HRs, AVG/OBP/SLG line) will Franklin Gutierrez put up in 2008?
22/280/340/460
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(5) Who will be Tribe's thirdbaseman by season's end - Marte, Blake or mystery player?
Blake
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BenFran
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(7) The 2008 version of Fausto Carmona will be __ (High impact, makes it on the 25 man roster before May)
Nobody makes the same impact, but Miller, Stevens, Laffey all get meaningful time.
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(8) The 2008 version of Asdrubal Cabrera / Kenny Lofton will be __ (Fills a void on the roster and arrives sometime after August)
Miller. In the pen.
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(9) __ will rocket up the ranks of minor league prospects by the start of spring training (only Adam Miller wouldn't qualify since he's the only Tribe prospect consistently in the top 25)
By ST? Noone, but by mid-season Weglarz and Goedart and Mills will be Carolina league all-stars.
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(10) The Tribe's biggest offseason trade acquisition will be a _
position)
Carlos Gonzales, OF at AAA.
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TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in __ place.
Last.
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Nov 26, 2007 7:47 PM EST
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- I don't think CC will sign before the season, but may resign at the end of the year. If not let's hope he goes to the NL
- Aaron Laffey
- Lee and a couple of prospects to Pittsburg
- .270 25 HR's and 70 RBI's.
- Blake
- Bay
- None
- Adam Miller
- Hodges
- left fielder
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Nov 27, 2007 12:16 AM EST
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- 5 yr / $95
- Cliff Lee
- Shoppach to somewhere. Someone makes an offer Shapiro can't refuse.
- .280/.325/.480
- Marte
- BenFran/mystery LFer from Shoppach deal
- Marte
- Crowe
- Beau Mills
- LFer from Shoppach deal
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Nov 27, 2007 12:34 AM EST
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- CC will re-sign for 4 years 75M with a mutual option for a 5th year at 20M
- Laffey logs in the most innings as the 5th starter.
- Shoppach / NL team with a head on its shoulders
- FGutz 20HR, .280
.330/.490 - Laffey logs in the most innings as the 5th starter.
- Wes Hodges
- Matt Diaz
- Not this year.
- Wes Hodges
- See 5 and 8
- LF - Matt Diaz in some convoluted deal involving Shoppach and a thrid team.
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Nov 27, 2007 1:54 AM EST
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(2) Laffey
(3) If laffey is ahead of Lee during spring traing , Lee has to be the obvious answer here. But i dont think any of the players above will be dealt before ST.
(4) 15 HRs 275 AVG 340 OBP 460 SLG
(5) I see blake holding down 3b.
(6) I think the platoon will hold in LF for 08.
(7) Someone for the bullpen, and my fantasy is A. Miller getting some time in the pen by midseason. Obviously wont be on pay w/ fausto in 07 though.
(8) I say we trade for kenny again at midseason
(9) j brown
(10) dont see another move on ML level to be honest. maybe some prospect wrangling.
TIEBREAKER: The Royals will finish 2008 in 4th place. (above santana-less twins)
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Nov 27, 2007 7:41 AM EST
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(2) Aaron Laffey
(3) Cliff Lee. Somewhere in the NL - maybe Mets or Rox
(4) 15, .277/.335/.465
(5) Blake, but I hope it's Marte or mystery player, and if it's not Marte, trade him.
(6) Choo
(7) Choo
(8) Hank Blaylock
(9) Wes Hodges
(10) Nothing else noteworthy
TIEBREAKER: 5th
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Nov 27, 2007 11:03 AM EST
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I think closer to the season we should pool together community projections for the whole team, like Lookout Landing does. Always fun to look back on.
by nickjs21 on
Nov 27, 2007 11:50 AM EST
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- No
- Sowers
- Lee - NYM or Mil
- 22-.262/.318/.440
- Blake
- Delluci/Michaels
- Kobyashi
- Adam Miller
- Mills
- Nobody
- Behind the Tribe (like everyone else)
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- Yes. Five years, $85 million.
- Byrd.
- Cliff Lee to Pittsburgh or San Diego.
- Can't think of any better answer than just using the Bill James projections, .275/.334/.445. James projects 13 HR in about 430 PA -- I'll go along with rate but not the playing time, meaning he'll get more like 17 HR. Also! 8 assists.
- Marte.
- Going for the longshot to win the bracket: platoon of Blake and Snyder.
- Nobody.
- Scott Rolen.
- Jordan Brown.
- Reliever.
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Nov 27, 2007 4:40 PM EST
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Granted, most if not all of those eight things are less than 50%, but it could happen. Did you see how the Cardinals won the World Series last year?
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Okay, then, Rolen will play shortstop.
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Nov 27, 2007 5:15 PM EST
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I'll throw my hat into the "trade" ring.
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Why doesn't Shin-Soo Choo's name come up as much about the left-field job next year, even though he has shown he is more than capable, and he is out of Minor League options?
-- Sri N., Strongsville, Ohio
Actually, Big League Choo's name has come up quite a bit this winter. The Indians feel he is a viable option for left field in 2008. Unfortunately, he'll be a bit behind at the outset of the season, after having Tommy John ligament replacement surgery in late September. That surgery was performed to clear up a left elbow issue that had hounded Choo and kept him off the field for much of '07, so it's difficult to determine just how much he progressed at Triple-A Buffalo this year.
As you mentioned, Choo is out of options, and he performed well for the Tribe at the end of the '06. The keys will be how quickly he rebounds from surgery, how well he can play left field and how well he can hit left-handed pitching.
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- No. He plays the year in Cleveland, then goes FA.
- Laffey. Lee is traded and Sowers is #4. Lofgren gets some innings in this slot, too.
- Lee. Dodgers or D-Backs.
- 26/.235/.300/.500 (And a bunch of K's. He puts it all together in 2009.)
- Marte (This prediction represents the triumph of optimism over experience...)
- Blake, with occasional platoon with Francisco. Delluci is waived, Michaels traded for a AA reliever.)
- The guy we get for Lee.
- Miller, in the bullpen.
- Weglarz
- LHRP
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Based on his '05 and '06 numbers, I think Delluci deserves a shot in '08; but, for whatever reason, I'm not optimistic that he'll overcome the injury.
Does his contract extend through '09? I figured, if his contract is up after '08, they might waive him in August if he's .215/.275/.345.
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From Cot's.
I'm not leading the Dellucci in 08 parade--in fact, I hope we have an outside hire for LF when the season opens--but I hope he at least gets 300 ABs for what we're paying him. I believe he can still live up to that contract if used correctly.
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I'm also not bullish on Dellucci, but I think he's very tradeable if that's what we want. If we traded him right now, it would be at the lowest point of his value, but I still think we'd have to eat at most half the salary to do it. If we acquire a better option for LF, that's more less exactly what I expect will happen.
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- Yes 5/96
- Laffey
- Borowski to Brewers
- .275/.340/.470 21 HR my aggressive prediction.
- Brook Jacoby. close second is Marte.
- Carlos Quentin
- J.Stevens
- BEAU MILLS BABY!
- Werglarz "he'll be blocked by Mills at the ML level".
- Brandon Lyon closer from ARI
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Nov 27, 2007 10:31 PM EST
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- No.
- Sowers.
- Lee, NYM. Hopefully not for Milledge.
- 18, .270/.335/.480
- Casey Blake.
- Dellucci/J-Mike.
- Jeremy Sowers.
- Adam Miller.
- Shin Soo Choo. If that is too much of a cop out, Brian Barton.
- Hot dog eating champion.
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What are the personal reasons, if I may?
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