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Will the Haren deal lead to 2008 being our only real chance to win a WS?

Hello everyone,

Thinking about the proposed Haren trade more (for Miller/Laffey/1-2 other prospects, whoever you want to include, though Cabrera is certainly not one I'd do, and probably a couple others I wouldn't either,) the trade could really benefit us in 2008, but could leave us in a bit of a pickle for 2009, especially if Sabathia is not resigned and Byrd presumably leaves.

Essentially, you'd have the following rotation:

Carmona
Haren
Westbrook
?
?

If that weren't enough question marks, your first two alternatives to fill those spots could be Lee and Sowers IF they're still here next offseason.  That's not the most promising rotation, even with Haren onboard.

I know that 2009 is a long way off, and likely, one would not immediately think about that in regards to making this trade, but I think it's something that still should be considered.  That's why I think the Indians are still going to try hard to retain CC, even if they do trade for Haren.  While some are saying, getting Haren protects us if we lose CC, in some ways, it really doesn't - you won't have Miller and Laffey to fill the two possible holes in the future rotation if both Sabathia and Byrd leave if you add Haren to the rotation, so I think the improvement we'd get from adding him will really only be felt in 2008 unless we can resign CC.

Otherwise, you either count on Lee and Sowers both delivering, you hope you can get a quality FA pitcher that can fill one of those holes and have Lee or Sowers fill the other, or you hope that Slocum bounces back from injury at AAA and/or guys like Lofgren, S. Lewis, and Huff can handle AA and AAA in 2008 and be ready to start the 2009 season in the ML rotation.  While you could make an argument for Lewis to start 2008 at AAA, Huff almost certainly won't, and I wouldn't start Lofgren's 2008 season at AAA either, as he still needs to develop a little more consistency before he's really ready to handle AAA consistently.

Essentially, you won't have many promising options to fill those two holes as it looks like now.  Of course, things can change, and hopefully, will change during the 2008 season, or otherwise, our rotation could look pretty solid in the first 3 spots, but really fall off in the last two spots, moreso than the 2007 rotation and the projected 2008 rotation look as of right now or with the projected Haren deal.  And our rotation 1-5 was one of the main reasons we were able to win the division in 2007; with it being potentially weaker in 2009 if CC and Byrd don't return, that could really put more pressure on us to win it all in 2008 if we do trade for Haren, making it essentially a one-shot deal for us to win that WS.

Just my 2 cents and something to consider regarding the proposed Haren trade and how the deal will affect our projected rotation for 2009.

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