Haren to Arizona
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/12/14/SPQTTUU9P.DTL
"(12-14) 14:49 PST -- The A's have completed a trade to send Dan Haren to the Diamondbacks along with pitcher Connor Robertson, The Chronicle has learned.
In exchange, Oakland will receive a total of six prospects, including outfielder Carlos Gonzalez and left-handers Brett Anderson and Greg Smith. Arizona's first-round pick in 2006, pitcher Max Scherzer, is not a part of the deal."
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by cheech99 on Dec 14, 2007 6:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Joe on Dec 14, 2007 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by fanintexas on Dec 14, 2007 6:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by fleerdon on Dec 14, 2007 7:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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So, is Marte for Chavez still on?
At least one of those Arizona guys is going to be a stud--isn't that the way it always works?
by homelytourist on Dec 14, 2007 7:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by rustyparts on Dec 15, 2007 7:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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I'd say we should go after Street .. but we already signed Mase, so what's the point?
by Toxicadam on Dec 14, 2007 7:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Kos on Dec 14, 2007 7:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Hell, I'd go after Blanton, too. But the fact is that on any of these "obvious" trade targets, there's going to be a Winner's Curse dynamic. ("The severity of the winner's curse increases with the number of bidders.") Our guest grover was right that we probably have to be ready to go to at least 115% of "real value" to get anyone who's not "under the radar," in particular given the horrendous state of the free agent market.
Arizona needed Haren more than we did, and they were in a better position to acquire him. Their team is even younger, their farm system still a bit more deep. They basically fluked into a postseason spot, and unlike the Indians, nobody was about to project them for another 90 wins this season. Our roster is more mature, and we won several more games, against tougher competition, and with quite a bit less luck.
by Jay on Dec 14, 2007 7:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Haren made sense because he could serve as a bridge in case CC left and he was durable.
Of all the components on our team, the bullpen is the least of the problems (for once in a decade).
by Toxicadam on Dec 15, 2007 12:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by fanintexas on Dec 14, 2007 7:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by rustyparts on Dec 15, 2007 7:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Pitt 5.02,Stl 5.04,Nats 5.11,Sea 5.16,Tampa 5.20,Texas 5.50,Fla 5.58
I can not believe that not one of these teams could not use Lee as a starter?
by fanintexas on Dec 15, 2007 12:17 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by nickjs21 on Dec 15, 2007 7:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by fwembt on Dec 15, 2007 12:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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On the other hand, does this drive up Santana's price?
by CU Adam on Dec 14, 2007 8:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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Lee won't be effective as a reliever, and we can't send him down. I'd much rather have Laffey as the 5 and Byrd as the 4. But that's just me.
I'm still praying Lee gets dealt this offseason.
by talonk on Dec 15, 2007 1:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by rustyparts on Dec 15, 2007 7:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Brick. on Dec 14, 2007 8:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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The Twins are so damn silly. I can't believe how little money they spend in FA.
by afh4 on Dec 15, 2007 12:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Oh well. Have to admit, I was really hoping we could swing it for Haren. Thought it was one of the rare times we could get somebody like that with little damage to the immediate future. I love Shap, but sometimes I wish he was a little less risk-averse. But I guess that's moot unless/until we know what we offered in return.
Now sign CC and on to '08 and beyond. We're still a better team going into this year than last.
Not really interested in Blanton or Chavez. Maybe Street.
by mcrose on Dec 14, 2007 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Brick. on Dec 14, 2007 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by mcrose on Dec 14, 2007 8:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Brick. on Dec 14, 2007 9:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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But if you could check out the book from some library in the future, it'd probably have to be one of two titles:
"Six Lumps of Coal For a Diamondback" - John Feinstein documents Arizona's surge to the World Series by trading a little later for now. Or...
"The Plan: How to Increase Fitness Gradually and Own Your Potential" - Mark Shapiro ghostwritten by Terry Pluto, in the wake of Adam Miller and Brad Snyder leading the Indians to their first world championship in 60 years by adhering to a systemwide culture of extreme excellence and forthright thriftiness.
Sorry, got carried away with the last one, sign CC dammit.
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by rustyparts on Dec 15, 2007 7:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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just throwin it out there
by Wild Thing on Dec 14, 2007 9:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Brick. on Dec 14, 2007 11:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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BEANE: "Gutierrez, Laffey, Miller, Cabrera?"
SHAPIRO: "No."
BEANE: "Gutierrez, Miller, Cabrera?"
SHAPIRO: "No."
BEANE: "Laffey, Sowers, Cabrera, Hodges?"
SHAPIRO: "No."
BEANE: "It's Cabrera, isn't it? Damn it, I want Cabrera."
SHAPIRO: "Invalid operator."
by fleerdon on Dec 15, 2007 12:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Beane: "How about that Pedroia deuche in Boston?"
Shapiro: "Yeah what is with that tool?"
Antonett (off stage): "You talking to Beane about that jaggoff Pedroia?!"
Shapiro (with hand over phone): "Yeah, I'm about 20 seconds away from another Cabrera request, you'd think these guys would give it a rest"
Antonetti: "Pedrioa, god I hate that poser"
Shapiro: "Billy, it's Az_Droo_Bul, say it with me."
Beane and Shapiro together: "Az_Doo_Bul."
Shapiro: "Good, still can't have him."
by Brick. on Dec 15, 2007 12:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hilarious!
Absolutely hilarious role-playing! :-)
sbricker - are you sure Beane got the pronunciation right? It sounds to me like Beane is still pronouncing it, as he's saying "Az_Doo_Bul," NOT "Az_Droo_Bul" ("doo" instead of "droo.")
All the more reason why he can't have him - he still doesn't know how to say his name, LOL! :-)
by indiansfan on Dec 15, 2007 3:05 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by fanintexas on Dec 15, 2007 12:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/transactions
The Fab Four still lives!
Come to think of it, weren't Denham and Foley picked up by the A's last year?
by mcrose on Dec 15, 2007 12:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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