Dan Szymborski has posted the 2008 ZIPS projections for the Indians over at the Transaction Oracle at Baseball Think Factory.  It's an interesting read, and a great way to get some outside perspective on what we should expect next year.  I was interested to see the projection for Gutierrez; I've thought that the group here may be expecting a little too much from him next year.  The mean projection for Franklin isn't all that thrilling, but look at the 'player spotlight' a little lower on the page, with the optimistic and pessimistic projections (15th percentile best and worst outcomes).  There is a lot of variability; hopefully the consensus here is right, and Gutierrez' production is closer to the optimistic end of the spectrum.

Check it out, it's a good way to spend a Friday afternoon before the holidays.  Certainly better than working.