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A contusion never sounded so good

That's what Sabathia's left forearm injury has been classified as.

The Reed Johnson line drive that struck Sabathia in the forearm in the first inning of his final Grapefruit League start against the Blue Jays did not break a bone, according to X-rays taken at Winter Haven Hospital. And for now, the Tribe's ace is still planning on making his Opening Day start Monday in Chicago.

Even if Sabathia does end up missing next Monday's start, right now there's no indication that he'd have to go on the DL. April is littered with off days, so only four starters are really necessary through most of the month.

The active roster now is at 28, as four additional players were cut today:

Optioned OF Shin-Soo Choo, OF Ben Francisco, LHP Juan Lara to Buffalo (AAA)

Reassigned IF Luis Rivas to Minor League camp

This means that Tom Mastny, Mike Rouse, and Ryan Garko have made the club. Mastny is taking the place of Matt Miller. Rouse made the club based mostly on his defensive ability, although his handedness does make a nice compliment to the starting infielders. And of course Garko is expected to be the team's semi-regular first baseman, and could gain starter status if his defense improves.

Paul Hoynes notes that the Indians had some interest in Armando Benitez and Jorge Julio, and still trawling the waters for another good reliever. Chad Cordero is probably available, but it will cost whoever acquires him "multiple high-end prospects," according to Ken Rosenthal. That probably means Cordero isn't going anywhere.

The Indians received both of their Rule 5 players back today. OF Ryan Goleski, returning from Oakland, was less than pleased to be returning to Cleveland:

"I'm not looking forward to jumping on a plane and getting there in a hurry," Goleski said. "This one I don't see where they're benefiting with me coming back. I thought I earned my way out."

Not exactly the best way to endear yourself to your old organization. It looks like he'll end up in Akron again, given the already crowded outfield in Buffalo. RHP Jim Ed Warden, who was selected by the Phillies, was returned as well; he might have to go to Akron also.

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Re: A contusion never sounded so good
"...I thought I earned my way out..."

What is that supposed to mean?  Seriously, I don't understand that statement at all.

by Brick. on Mar 28, 2007 8:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Lost in the panic was the bizarre game result:

"The win went to former Toronto pitcher Bubbie Buzachero. The loss, oddly enough, was charged to former Indians pitcher Lee Gronkiewicz."

by Jay on Mar 28, 2007 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
I'm glad Goleski is coming back to the Cleveland organization.  I read that he is unhappy about it but the way I see it he is much more the prototypical corner outfielder than Choo, Guttierez, or Crowe, and probably Francisco as well.  Goleski hit 27 home runs at Kinston and Akron and he has a fine throwing arm for an outfielder.  I hope he makes it onto the Buffalo roster now that Guttierez will begin the season on the injured list.  Goleski had a better year last year than Snyder and I think he deserves to be ahead of him in the pecking order.

by Patconover on Mar 28, 2007 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
You make a good point about Snyder, who unfortunately did not have the bounce-back season anticipated when he was added to the 40-man roster.

But you do kind of lose me when it comes to Choo, who hit almost as well in Triple-A and the majors last season as Goleski did in Kinston and Akron -- and who is several months younger.  Are we really supposed to prefer Goleski because he's more "prototypical," rather than actually better?

Fact is, we can go in circles all day about which of these guys is going to outhit the others.  The fact is, outside of Choo and Crowe, given their ages and achievements to date, most if not all of these guys face long odds of developing into hitters worthy of a spot in a big-league lineup.

That being the case ... should we not favor the ones with superior defensive skills, like Gutierrez and even Snyder?

by Jay on Mar 29, 2007 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Jay, I don't disagree with you.  But what we're talking about here is potential which is ever so hard to measure and ever so much fun to speculate about.  My primary point is that I see Goleski as having the potential as a solid home run hitter, say 40 home runs a year when he matures.  He moves well enough to be corner outfielder and definitely has the arm.  I saw a terrific throw from the right field corner to second base.  

This line of thinking was inspired by the comments that Sizemore is set in center and thus speed is not so high a priority.  I'm not predicting, but I hope Goleski is given the chance to show his stuff in the Cleveland system.  Either way it seems that the Indians have a very strong set of outfielders in the minors.  

by Patconover on Mar 30, 2007 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Wow, you are just vastly overestimating Goleski's ceiling here -- or maybe the odds of anyone improving that much after age 24.  He just turned 25, and he isn't going to develop that much more power, that's the overwhelming possibility.  He's now at the age where he's doing small-i improvement rather than big-I Improvement.

His 27 HR translates to 20 HR using the MLE numbers, and we can expand that out to 24-25 given a full season.  I don't see him getting much over 30, and that's assuming he can hit advanced pitching at all.

by Jay on Mar 30, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
I don't think Goleski has any beef with Cleveland other than the simple fact that the OF competition is a lot stiffer here than in Oakland, where he would be in a much better position to get some ML playing time this year.

No matter where he is, he still has to perform well. He had a golden opportunity with the A's and their OF injuries, and just couldn't take advantage. I'm sure some of his frustration is directly related to his poor performance during ST:

"What Goleski did miss was a lot of two-strike pitches. Through Tuesday, he was batting .152 (7-for-46) with a team-high 17 strikeouts. And with fellow outfielder Bobby Kielty expected to be fully recovered from knee surgery by Opening Day, the A's have no room on the big-league roster for Goleski, whom the Indians were happy to take back." (mlb.com)

by mcrose on Mar 28, 2007 9:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Hi mcrose,

I have no great enthusiam for Goleski but there is an A's blog that says they were willing to trade Justin Sellers to get Goleski.  The Tribe must know something about Goleski that isn't apparent to me because I would have taken that deal without thinking.  I guess this explains why Brown was moved to 1B.  What a crowd in Buffalo and Akron! :)

IndianInkSlinger

by sdtribefan on Mar 28, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Don't know much about Sellers, but there is some disagreement about his caliber.  BA ranked him #9 for the A's, but BP left him out of their Top 10, and John Sickels left him out of their Top 20.  

by Jay on Mar 29, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
I didn't say he was a great player but I could not believe he would be much less valuable to the Tribe organization than Goleski.  Sellers has some potential and a clue about the strike zone. :)
IndianInkSlinger

by sdtribefan on Mar 29, 2007 3:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Jordan Brown, MVP of the Carolina League.  Played LF for Kinston but was 1B in college. :)
IndianInkSlinger

by sdtribefan on Mar 29, 2007 3:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

1B/OF Jordan Brown!
Hello JRam,

I believe indianinkslinger is referring to 1B/OF Jordan Brown, who, according to this MiLB.com article, will be the starting 1B at AA Akron - this is significant because Brown played in the Kinston OF in 2006, and it was presumed that either Michael Aubrey or Stephen Head would be playing 1B for Akron for most of 2007, but it sounds like Brown will have significant time there.

Perhaps the Indians were preparing for Goleski's return, which meant that they prepared Brown to take over at 1B at Akron, knowing that Crowe and Barton will already take up two OF spots, so Goleski could take the final OF spot.  

I read that Aubrey had been optioned to the Bisons, so the Indians must have felt confident enough in Aubrey's ability to hit to advance him to AAA Buffalo, despite limited AA experience.  As for Head, even though he made progress late last year in changing his swing and using the whole field more, there is a decent argument for returning him to Kinston, just to make sure he is ready for the jump to AA sometime in 2007.

Speaking of Head, I just read today on BA's Prospect Blog that Head has made great strides on shortening his swing - he was the only member of the Kinston Indians to turn back Joel Zumaya's 98 MPH fastball on Saturday, lining out to second base.  You can read more about that here.

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Mar 29, 2007 3:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: 1B/OF Jordan Brown!
Hi indiansfan,

I know that you are better informed on many of the blogs but I have not heard anything about a Buffalo option for Aubrey.  I thought he was headed to the DL.  I know there is no real reason he should not go to Buffalo since 1B options are no real exciting but he hasn't even had 200 ABs in AA, has he? :)

IndianInkSlinger

by sdtribefan on Mar 29, 2007 3:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 1B/OF Jordan Brown!
My notes say that Aubrey was optioned to AA on March 16th.  That left me wondering about who would play first for Buffalo.  In addition to Jordan Brown, Ryan Mulhern and Keith Zinter could be in the mix.

by Patconover on Mar 30, 2007 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is headed to the DL, but he was optioned
to AAA Buffalo on March 16.

Hello indianinkslinger,

According to MiLB.com, via Bisons.com, Aubrey was optioned to AAA Buffalo.  You can see more about that here.  

Like I mentioned above, I presume the Indians felt comfortable with Aubrey's hitting ability and what he showed in ST to promote him to AAA Buffalo, even though he only has had 266 career AA ABs (134 in '04, 106 in '05, 26 in '06.)  

That's probably also part of the reason why Jordan Brown was moved to 1B - the Indians feel Brown is more ready for AA than Head is, and with Goleski's return from Oakland, combined with Crowe and Barton, Akron's OF is already full, so Brown fits in perfectly at 1B, and from what I read online (either at BA, Kinston.com, or Indians.com,) Brown seems happy to make the transition back to 1B because he felt he played pretty well over there and feels he can make more of an impact defensively than just making routine plays in the OF.

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Mar 29, 2007 4:34 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: He is headed to the DL, but he was optioned
I don't know that the Buffalo assignment is meaningful at this point, when there is no Disabled List.  Everyone gets optioned to the minors, and from there assigned to one team or another.  At this point there are only two teams:  Buffalo and camp.  I'm thinking they assigned Aubrey to Buffalo because there's no point assigning him to camp.  He's going on the DL on Sunday, once there is one.

by Jay on Mar 29, 2007 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I read that Aubrey would start the season at Akron
Hello everyone,

In this Indians.com article, Indians Director of Player Development Ross Atkins says that Aubrey "could be ready to start the season at AA Akron," so it seems that optioning Aubrey to AAA was just a roster move, as Jay suggested.

The only question is, will Aubrey just DH at first, then share 1B duties with Brown, or will Brown sort of rotate between 1B and the OF, even though the OF already seems to be full with Barton, Crowe, and Goleski?

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Mar 30, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
PLEASE please tell me we're not serious about Armando Benitez.  Definitely a bad act.  

by westcoastwahoo on Mar 29, 2007 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: A contusion never sounded so good
Here's some additional info on CC.

"I'm pitching Monday," Sabathia said. "The swelling has gone down. I feel pretty good. I'm pretty excited."

Wedge was a little more cautious:

"As long as he feels OK, we should be in good shape," Wedge said Thursday. "All indications are good, but you never know about the body."

by Rachie on Mar 29, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

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