Kelly Shoppach
Kelly Shoppach is currently hitting 386/462/596.
I know that there are concerns about sample size (57 ABs on the year), but his last month's stats (thru May 15) are even more ridiculous. I was at the game tonight and he looked smooth and comfortable at the plate.
There's obviously no reason to expect him to continue on this pace, but he certainly seems to have things together right now.
Shoppach also brings some nice value defensively.
With Garko slumping and Shoppach hitting, has he earned the opportunity to catch more than on Byrd's turn (with Vic playing a little more 1B)?
I'm not talking about a wholesale revision of the lineup, just maybe catching twice a turn instead of every fifth day?
There's really not much more that the guy can do to earn himself more PT, is there?
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 11, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
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And that's the end of my armchair nonsense analysis.
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by Turkmenbashi on Jun 12, 2007 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
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Second word to the wise, Shoppach's BABIP is .459 this year.
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like andrew's saying, you can't ignore history - like i didn't think trot should suddenly face every lefty after having 4 hits against baltimore that one day...
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Looking at the minor league numbers -- the only reasonable sample we really have -- they actually are very similar. Garko hits for 30 points higher batting average, which is significant, but Shoppach has the better walk rate and isolated power.
The two-position defensive upgrade is pretty significant, too, despite whatever strides Garko and Victor have made.
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The ultimate question is whether Shoppach is good enough with the bat to move Victor to first on a full-time basis, especially if Hafner is re-signed. We still don't really know the answer to this question.
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I'm not talking about those at all, except to note that he isn't exactly in a funk. I'm just saying, the comparison based on minor league numbers (plus defensive value) is closer than one might expect.
I've been saying for a while, what we really need is a lefty-hitting Garko, who could be platooned with Shoppach while Victor split positions. I don't mind Garko in a full-time role, but like many good-not-great players, his skills have a lot more charm in a platoon.
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Well, Adam Dunn is available.
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I really like Kelly's arm, which is the main reason I'd like to see more of him behind the plate. Vic's been much better in that regard this year, but that just brings him up to acceptable. Shop's a real weapon back there.
I can see Wedge wanting to give Vic more of a break from squatting as the summer wears on, to keep him fresh for a playoff run and hopefully October. If Shop continues to do well at the plate, it'll be easier for them to justify moving Vic around.
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Side note: Was he hurt in 05? Seems like an awfully down year.
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His OPS away from that bandbox is about 705 for the past two seasons. I like Hatteberg, but unless we had nobody to play the position, I wouldn't take him for free.
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Exactly! Oh, wait ... I see your point.
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by Kos @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jun 12, 2007 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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Last year, when Garko was swinging the bat well, I thought he should start at 1B this year. It might have been irrational exuberance.
I said this last night. A lot of people have said that we need a power hitting corner outfielder / first baseman. It's strange, really strange, that I think this might be true - EVEN though we're near the top (at the top? haven't looked in the last few days) of the league in Runs Scored.
Dellucci and Nixon have not looked good recently. History would say, IF they are used correctly, their hitting will pick up.
by Gradyforpresident on Jun 12, 2007 2:58 PM EDT reply actions
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by Gradyforpresident on Jun 12, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions
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by Gradyforpresident on Jun 12, 2007 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions
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power.
poWER.
POWER.
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A complete inability to put statistics in context allows this.
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by Gradyforpresident on Jun 12, 2007 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
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Again, though, he's still a young player and you really can't ask him to do anything more to get more PT.
With the slumps at the corner positions, I think now is the perfect time to give a little more of a chance.
If it doesnt work, then it doesn't work.
Thanks for your thoughts guys
by dave @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jun 12, 2007 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
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- I thought that was going to be the plan anyway. Give Victor more rest from behind the plate.
- Probably an upgrade defensively, though Vic/pitchers seems to have improved in the "steals against" category.
- I'd let Shoppach catch/call game for Lee. Not that Victor's pitch selection is at fault, but just to give Lee a different perspective(however slight it might be). Something/anything to get Lee's game in gear.

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