From the Detroit Press
Here's a very well written article from the Detroit perspective.
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070703/SPORTS0104/707030337/1129
It's refreshing to hear a sports writer (besides the Cleveland PD) write about some possible shortcomings of the team. All too often a World Series contender fails to notice what is going on with their own team.
Good read.
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by MTF on Jul 3, 2007 10:07 AM EDT 0 recs
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by Nat on
Jul 3, 2007 12:41 PM EDT
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by APV on Jul 3, 2007 12:54 PM EDT 0 recs
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Gulp, they know of our Kryptonite. Money.
by Gradysmanldy on Jul 3, 2007 1:25 PM EDT 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing regarding DET &
Yes, A. Miller and Lewis won't have Gagne's or Otsuka's experience, and M. Miller doesn't have that type of arm, but A. Miller and Lewis' arms would be just as good as either Otsuka or Gagne's, and as we've seen in the past from young relievers like K-Rod and Zumaya, sometimes, all you need (presuming you have a good solid team, of course, which I think the Indians would qualify as :-) is a power arm or two to ride yourself to a WS victory or at least a WS appearance, and they don't necessarily have to be experienced like a Gagne or Otsuka to do it.
And for what it's worth, Gagne and Otsuka don't have much postseason experience either, so they don't have much advantage over the Millers and Lewis in that regard. That's why I think it's advantageous the Indians have them "in reserve" at AAA; I don't know what the Tigers or Red Sox's AAA options are, but I'd think they would be pretty hard-pressed for their AAA reserves to match that AAA trio in terms of power arms and experience.
Just my 2 cents. :-)
by indiansfan on Jul 3, 2007 4:58 PM EDT 0 recs
Re: I was thinking the same thing
However, before Miller and Lewis can be used in the postseason, two things have to occur.
First they have both would need to be added to the 40 man roster. We are currently at 39, so someone would have to go. Most likely? Koplove, Stanford, Aubrey, Luna, maybe Snyder. Most likely scenario, only one gets added to the 40 (my money's on Miller)
Second, to get one on the postseason 25 man squad, we would probably need at least pitcher to be on the DL (although I am unsure if we have a hitter on the DL that we could swap the pitcher for him. Jay? What says the roster guru?). Fultz will be activated soon and noone else is on the major league DL (Dellucci). If you want both, then two players would need to be on the DL. Or the easiest route, they both are on the 25 man roster. Which in itself causes other roster problems (Stanford, Cabrera, etc)
Not saying it can't or won't be done, but don't assume adding either to the postseason roster will be a snap.
by talonk on Jul 3, 2007 5:46 PM EDT 0 recs
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- The 25-man roster as of August 31.
- The DL as of August 31.
- The rest of the 40-man roster, but only as substitutes for players who were and still are on the DL, pitcher for pitcher and/or hitter for hitter.
by Jay on
Jul 3, 2007 7:59 PM EDT
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Good points, but I didn't say that BOTH have
If it was necessary, the Indians could probably find a way to add both, but right now, it's probably likely we'd only add one reliever, even via trade, since outside of Cabrera's infrequent usage and Stanford rarely being used as a long man, the rest of the bullpen has been used on a fairly regular basis, but you'd either get Cabrera in the mix by the postseason or possibly include him in some trade, perhaps, and/or you probably wouldn't put a long man on your postseason roster, so a potential bullpen spot COULD open up by August 31 if the Indians deem that Cabrera or Stanford are expendable, since we haven't used Cabrera much lately and we didn't have a true long-man (unless you count Perez, and with his stuff, I didn't really see him as a long-man, but more of a late-inning shutdown/setup guy just being introduced to the MLs) in the bullpen for most of the season until recently.
As I implied above, unless you trade someone from the ML roster in a trade for Otsuka or Gagne, you'd have the same problem, so either way, whether you add from outside or within, you'd have to deal with that situation anyway. I just said that having the multiple options is an advantage the Indians have in that they don't have to be forced to pay a high price in prospects if they don't want to.
Sorry if you got the impression I meant adding both, but at this point, I doubt we'd add more than one reliever, from outside or within; it's just nice to have multiple quality options, and internal options at that.
Just my 2 cents. :-)
by indiansfan on
Jul 3, 2007 9:15 PM EDT
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