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Game Thread: July 5, 2007

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Cleveland at Detroit, 1:05 PM (STO)

Starting Pitchers:

Cleveland: CC Sabathia
Detroit: Justin Verlander

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Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
So how many are we going to have here today?

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 12:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hey, some of us are gainfully employed. But I usually only contribute during day games because my computer and TV are in different rooms at home.

No comment about productivity.

by zigsmom on Jul 5, 2007 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Commence productivity loss in 5 minutes.....

by bogey021 on Jul 5, 2007 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I'm "working" from home today, so I'll actually have the rare opportunity to watch the game on television.

Indians lineup:

Sizemore, CF
Blake, 3B
Martinez, C
Hafner, DH
Peralta, SS
Garko, 1B
Nixon, RF
Francisco, LF
Barfield, 2B

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 12:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Cheers for working from home! I love summer medical student research internships....slackest thing I've ever done in my life. Go tribe.

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Nixon today, I hope he doesn't cost us defensively in that huge outfield. Look for an early Gutz replacement if he does.

by columbus714 on Jul 5, 2007 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Let's hope it doesn't come to that - although it is becoming increasingly difficult to "hide" him in the lineup almost every time a righthander starts.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Will be easy to hide him today since CC will strike out 27 guys <sarc>

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
True, if any game Nixon should play it's when CC is on the mound because of the SO's

by columbus714 on Jul 5, 2007 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Question is:  How many games should he be playing (all things remaining equal) once Dellucci returns?

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Or, perhaps once Dellucci returns/Choo is healthy?

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Umm, my mlb radio is giving me a trippy visualization. This is a new development. Hammy's voice is a warm puprle.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 1:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I can't see them cutting Nixon when DD returns,it will be interesting to see who goes.

by columbus714 on Jul 5, 2007 1:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I think both Gutz and Ben can be sent doown this year on options. Gutz will need to stick next year though.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I understand they can be sent down - but I'm not sure any of us want to see Trot receive increased playing time.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Well, that will likely be after the trade deadline, so things might sort themselves out, at least a little bit.  

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
hmmmm, slow start, two fly balls, were either of them hit decent?

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I turned it on right as Vic was swinging at that one, which was pretty. Hooray for timing.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
At the office today for a nice day game listen... way to be Victor. Time to shut 'em down CC.

by CarnegieAndOntario on Jul 5, 2007 1:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Because Gutz/Michaels have better numbers against lefties . . . and Wedge would feel uncomfortably crowded out by the huge elephant in the room if he did not start Nixon in a game like today (i.e., against most righties).

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Bah. Nothing like giving up a homer to a guy who's got 2 on the year :/

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
is CC getting squeezed? or just missing.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Looks like he's just missing his spots.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Phew. That looked CRUSHED off the bat.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
BABIP will strike down the Muppet-looking one in the 2nd half

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Just get out of the inning CC.

This first inning stuff with CC is hard to watch.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 1:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I'm not trying to be dramatic but the Tiger announcers are so bad, they make me pine for Steve Phillips.  Never thought I would admit to pining for Steve Phillips.  Maybe I'll turn on ESPN and see him in less than six seconds.

by NickFantana on Jul 5, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I'm listening to WTAM with the video feed up, delay or not. I couldn't take the ramblings of Joe Morgan, Jr. anymore.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hopefully we don't need it, but all of bullpen arms should be available today.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Wedge said Chicago had a run in them? Yeah right

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
He's just thinking about the next time we play the Sox and trying to avoid bulletin-board-in-the-Chicago-locker room material.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
All right Jhonny take advantage of that break

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
That was one of the ugliest throws I've ever seen from Guillen there. Thanks for the gift. Can Trot elevate one & score the run?

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Garko, showing it's better to be lucky than fast.  Nixon showing he's not really a major-league hitter anymore.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Trot Nixon:  getting harder to "hide" him by the day.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Francisco's down to .500 now? Cut him.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
awesome.

best defensive catcher ever? ha!

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Nice AB by Nixon.  By so weakly flailing at Verlander's pitch, he filled him with overconfidence which no doubt directly led to the wild pitch.  That's veteran leadership.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Has Wedge uttered any Nixon "professional at bats" comments lately?

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
If he's such a frigging leader, how can you bring down your teammates like this? This is the one point that baffles me.

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 1:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hi my name is Evan and I'll be 30 seconds behind all day.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
wow. the treat is red hot.

shane spencer 4 prez.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 1:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Barfield sure swings at some bad pitches.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I imagine he's going to put in a lot of work this offseason to work on his pitch recognition

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
We got Verlander up to 31 through 2. Of course CC will be around there as well after these ups.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Treat FTW
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 5, 2007 1:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
CC's leaving a lot of pitches up in the zone right now.  Although not those last two to Pudge.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 1:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Marcus Thames hitting a blistering .235 this year ... and now Monroe in a 1-25 slide only saved by Grady

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Where that ball was hit, no one was going to prevent the runner from advancing

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I'm not saying the runner could have been thrown out on that play

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I would complain about the dimensions of the park, but that would've been out anywhere else.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Looks to me like CC needs to alter he approach a tick

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Inge has a 295 OPS vs CC in 42 PA, pathetic ....

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
4-38, 1 RBI, 4 W, 11K and now another flyout.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I hope CC's just settling in. I'm listening today, not watching.

by zigsmom on Jul 5, 2007 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
well, with no one on, Blake can get a hit please ...

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
One of the guys creeping up on Sabathia's list of comparable pitchers is Greg Maddux.  On the surface, their physical presence and stuff on the mound couldn't seem more different.  But having watched Maddux a lot while in college (I was in Atlanta), one similarity the two posess is how quickly they work on the mound.  CC takes almost no time between pitches these days.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 1:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
There's that, but also, I think their relative ages, success at young ages, really drives the formula.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Oh yeah...B-Ref's comparisons are all about raw numbers.  CC's increasing control also plays a major role.  I'm just saying from the perspective of how they pitch, it's also something they share in common.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
and of course he swings at a 3-0. sheesh.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
If you're giving anyone the green light, Vic's the guy. Still sucks to see him pop that up though.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Oh I know, but it putting 2 on for Pronk might help in the long run for his confidence ... oh well.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Verlander's not looking so great today, either. Thought this stood the chance of being a 0-0 game through 6 or something, but it could well be 6-5 or something.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 1:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Anybody see that THT blurb about 3-0 swingers? Perception actually lines with reality. Vic is among the leaders year to year.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Joe Morgan, Jr. just said the Indians have a good manager.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
You can call us cheaters, you can call us lucky, BUT DON'T YOU DARE MAKE FUN OF OUR GODDAMNED EYE-BLACK!

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
This website gets the weirdest ads. Today I've see "The Art of the Pick-Up", some kind of dive shop, and this Classic Example Volume One thing.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I almost traded for Hafner in my fantasy league (drink) the other day, but I'm still so nervous he won't turn it around

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Verlander:  50 pitches after the third.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 1:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
looks like the Cle bullpen will be involved today too ..

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
what is the quote from Blake about Pudge they are talking about on FSN?

by ASP on Jul 5, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I could go for a mound visit from Vic soon

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
This looks like it's gonna be an 8 to 7 game.
Sometimes you just gotta be lucky

by mauichuck on Jul 5, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Haha looks like Joe Morgan Jr. learned his 'rithmetic from Joe Morgan Sr. Uh....3-2? uh....5-2? 4-2?

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 1:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Well I just woke up. I was hoping for better but this will work. We can get to Verlander.
Cleveland: It's like punching yourself in the face.

by Brad D on Jul 5, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Verlander is going to have a tough time making it through six at this rate. The AWESOME Detroit pen will have to close it out.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
So who's gonna hit our two home runs today?

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Well that blows.
Cleveland: It's like punching yourself in the face.

by Brad D on Jul 5, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Looks like Haren is going to start the Allstar game.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Wow was that a hanging curve. No good.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I actually don't mind the FSN Detroit broadcast crew.  And if you don't like Rod Allen (i.e., Joe Morgan Jr.), watch this YouTube clip from his days playing baseball in Japan.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 2:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Oh shit, he's THAT guy? I have much more respect for him now.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Yep.  One of the most comical baseball moments ever caught on video.

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I saw this about a month ago and showed everyone I know. Alright, I'm done making fun of JMJ.

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I never saw that before . . . that's fantastic!

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 5, 2007 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I guess that pitcher is the anti-Nolan Ryan.  

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 5, 2007 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
And that folks is why most Japanese think that Americans are assholes.
Sometimes you just gotta be lucky

by mauichuck on Jul 5, 2007 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I would definitely not mind Pudge getting drilled today

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Phew. I was slightly worried that he might walk Pudge there, which would almost be a worse sign than the hits he keeps giving up.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Alright, 5-2. Not the end of the world.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
So what's the final count on guys coming to Toronto this weekend? Just me and Carnegie and Ontario?

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
HEY, HEY HEY LETS GO TRIBE. HEY, HEY HEY LETS GO TRIBE ALL RIGHT

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
In other news, I'm going to see my first Indians game in 5 years this early August, going up to that series in Minnesota. It's been way too long

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Peralta's been taking pitch recognition lessons from Barfield.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
So who has a feeling Ben's gonna go wild again today?

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hardball Times doesn't think Trevor Crowe will turn it around this year.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/can-these-young-hitters-turn-it-around/

"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jul 5, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Wow. That hurts, giving up a 4-run inning & then coming back & having him strike out the side.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Didn't even make him throw a lot of pitches. Trot Nixon, I hate you.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
This game sucks.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Alright who's excited to see Cliff pitch again in Toronto this weekend? Huge props to whoever can tell me what hilarious event transpired last time he was in town (This was the first time I'd ever seen an entire press box erupt in laughter).

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Would that be Dellucci vs. Jason Phillips?

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

OT to supermarioelia
Did a Google earth search and found out that London, Ontario is not in fair territory in Detroit. It is in foul territory behind the third base dugout. Tilbury would be down the third base line.

You are almost in dead center from the Jake.

Read this

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Jul 5, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: OT to supermarioelia
Bahaha that's awesome!

So the last time Cliff pitched in T.O. was August 2, 2004. This was in the midst of a huge slump for Cliff, and after pitching poorly once again he tossed his hat and glove into the crowd. He was jovial in the locker room after the game though, saying how he just wanted to give some fans a souvenir.

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I want a DP really badly right now.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
And they're sac bunting? What the hell are they doing?

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Trying to get in our head the way they've gotten in ours.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
They're up by 3 & everyone's crushing Sabathia, why are they sacrificing? That makes very little sense.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Can we Pinch Hit for Nixon RIGHT NOW?

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I wouldn't really mind a defensive replacement

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
But, umm ... Granderson's a good hitter too ... so how about let him swing the bat, get a hit, and then you've got two on and no out ... come on now Hammy

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Wow.  Didn't see this coming.  CC doesn't have it today.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 5, 2007 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Phew. Get someone warming in the pen, Sabathia is done.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Ok Wedge... let's get Stanford in there.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Seems CC is tired. Can we pull him from the All Star game?

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
What?

That made no sense. Radio guys just said Sheffield had 275 career homeruns. That's not true.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
CC making a real good effort to not start the all start game. I can't watch anymore.

And oh well, at least we still leave Detroit with a one game lead, and we crushed their ace one time this year.

As far as I'm concerned, these two teams are pretty evenly matched, and it's going to be a fun pennant race. That said, I've got too much going on to be frustrated by this game today. Go Tribe.

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Not to be a totally short-sighted jerk, but a $100 million man isn't supposed to totally shit the bed against his team's main rival for the playoffs.

by Jay on Jul 5, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Heh. Well it was going to be hard for him to keep this pace up. Just a shame he had to pick the Tigers to totally suck against.

by Joe. on Jul 5, 2007 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
It does seem at least marginally more palatable to lose this game 2-1 rather than 7-2.  Although my final score prediction right now is 9-7.

by NickFantana on Jul 5, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Well, actually, let's see how Verlander does in the 5th... this game might be over.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
CC's worst start of year, exceeding the 6 runs he gave up in Oakland

by palcal on Jul 5, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Sigh.

Work sucks today. I'm hot, I'm hungover, and this.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Well. I think we would definitely go for that 8-7 result today

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Verlander's at 63 pitches right now. We really need to get a run or two across & make him work a bit next inning, otherwise this one may be in the bag.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Verlander seems to have found his groove.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Verlander is feelin' it. Not lookin' good.

by gte619n on Jul 5, 2007 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
"That was filth." Don't you mean firth flying filth?

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 2:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
CC's day is over, apparently.

Mastny up. Weird. Seems like a good time to use Stanford.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
As good of a time as ever, especially when the alternative is burning through the pen.  

Maybe Stanford will finish the game following Mastny.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Maybe they want to switch to a righty to combat all of the Tigers RH hitters.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hopefully the Red Sox can really work the Tigers this weekend

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
one of those rare instances I'll find myself rooting for the Red Sox

by APV on Jul 5, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Just when we think Wedge has settled someone into their roles he uses Mastny in long relief.  Unless he's going with the one reliever every inning from now on.

by NickFantana on Jul 5, 2007 2:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Or, he may just be hoping to get Mastny "righted" and then use Stanford to finish the game.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Alright, I'm turning the video off on this one & abandoning the game thread. I can only take so many replays of the Tigers' home runs and Verlander's strikeouts, plus I should probably get some work done.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Wait, I just want to say that there is NO WAY you should be giving up a walk to Pudge. Ok, now I'm leaving. Ugh.

by zempf on Jul 5, 2007 2:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
F it, I'm going to do the NYT crosswords from the last few days at work

by Gradyforpresident on Jul 5, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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Glad I turned off the 5am alarm during the night!!!

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 5, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Looks like I got here just in time for the comeback.

by mkwng @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jul 5, 2007 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Victor is a beast.
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jul 5, 2007 2:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
blah blah radar gun blah

by mkwng @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jul 5, 2007 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I've seen enough.  This is brutal.  Especially when we have other guys going good right now.  Splits be damned in this case.

by NickFantana on Jul 5, 2007 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
As much as I keep trying to not watch this game, I can't help it. Tough luck inning there with Hafner's non-hits, but at least Verlander looks shaken/hittable now.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
nixon.....the automatic out machine.

by johnnyromano on Jul 5, 2007 3:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I count 49 games without a HR. This is a major leaguer.

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I am not shocked in the least that Nixon failed there.

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
It's not just the lack of hits/lumbering out in RF, it's the inability to even put good swings on the ball.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Seriously, what's the consensus on Nixon - how long will Wedge/Shapiro delay the inevitable?  

Does anyone else find themselves hoping (in the abstract, at least) that Nixon continues to put up 0-4's each day to make the decision to play him that much more difficult?

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Till they trade for someone to replace him.

by hans on Jul 5, 2007 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I think that Trot should have came up to the plate in Boston during our visit there earlier this year,,,,during the standing ovation, tip his cap, pull a microphone out, give the Gehrig speach and retire at the high point of the season for him. That's what should have happened.

by hans on Jul 5, 2007 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Problem is, he didn't - and playing him is really starting to hurt the team now.  

I'd imagine it's getting close to reaching critical mass.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Did Hamilton just say Sheffield needs one in the rib cage?

by zigsmom on Jul 5, 2007 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

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I'm not listening on the radio, but he does.  Sheffield's a prick.

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 5, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Yes, he did.  Sheffield is a punk. He ought to lead the league in being hit by pitches simply because he is a punk.

Hammy noted earlier the significant discrepancy between the number of times Indians' hitters have been hit by a pitch and the number of batters hit by the Indians' pitching.  I inferred that Hammy would like to see the Indians pitchers do more to protect their hitters.

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 5, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
You might as well have Mike Rouse at the plate the way Nixon is swingin the bat this season.

by tborish on Jul 5, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

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Rouse might even be able to beat out the occasional infield single.

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Gary Sheffield is a major league prick.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Wow, Hamilton doesn't like Sheffield does he? Liked the diaper reference.

by zigsmom on Jul 5, 2007 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Mujica getting his bags packed for Buffalo ....

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hamilton - Mujica's days with the Indians are numbered

by palcal on Jul 5, 2007 3:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Eddie Moooooooooving back to Buffalo...

by CarnegieAndOntario on Jul 5, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Ok. Mujica is not a major league reliever currently.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
OK, game over.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
OK, time to get some work done .... cya!!

by talonk on Jul 5, 2007 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
9-3... good night, folks.

by CarnegieAndOntario on Jul 5, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

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Yeah Eddie's done. Thanks for the memories....all 3 or so of them.

by supermarioelia on Jul 5, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Is that why Stanford wasn't put in - to see what Mastny/Mujica could do?  

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Looks like it - roster move(s) tomorrow or at the Break?

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
This is getting unwatchable.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
well, this has turned into an exercise in failure.

by afh4 on Jul 5, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
This is not the way you want to end a critical series against your primary rival.
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 5, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
the Indians need to focus on winning 95 games and not worry to much about the Tigers -- on paper, they are the best team in baseball and if they get their act and bullpen together in the 2nd half
it will be difficult to catch them

by palcal on Jul 5, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Why hasn't Stanford been in yet - isn't this what a long man is for?  

by Buckeye Brad on Jul 5, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Time for a shower, shave, breakfast and off to work for a Friday......

by new zealand tribe fan on Jul 5, 2007 3:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
You know, Wedge had made some good moves over the last week or so. I think the Cosmos are balancing out.

by zigsmom on Jul 5, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hamilton seems to be saying that the moral of the story of today's game is that we need a left-handed bat and some relief help if we expect to compete down the stretch.

My take on that is that he usually seems to have the pulse of the team, Wedge especially.  So I am now officially expecting 2 pitchers and a hitter before the deadline.

by NickFantana on Jul 5, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I missed Hammy's comment - was he referencing Nixon with his need for a lefty bat comment?

by mplswahoo on Jul 5, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
by implication, unless you think they are ready to dump Hafner

by palcal on Jul 5, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Nixon hasn't hit a homerun since May 1st. That's Yadier Molina territory.
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jul 5, 2007 3:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
I hate to be reactionary, but the guy really doesn't deserve to be starting anymore. And this game is disgusting. We better sweep Toronto.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Jul 5, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Hell, before today that was Placido Polanco territory.
Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Jul 5, 2007 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
It's not over till it's over!
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 5, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
Somewhere, a fat lady sings...
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Jul 5, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
owwwwwwwwwwwwww.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Jul 5, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: July 5, 2007
hoping that we get all the crap out of the way for a while. Is this the worst game of the season?

by exer on Jul 5, 2007 3:18 PM EDT reply action