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Game Thread: August 19, 2007

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Cleveland at Tampa Bay, 1:40 PM (WKYC)

Starting Pitchers:

Cleveland: CC Sabathia (181.0 IP, 3.48 ERA, 89 PRC)
Tampa Bay: James Shields (170.2 IP, 4.22 ERA, 75 PRC)

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Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Lofton
Gutz
Sizemore
V-Mart
Pronk
Garko
Peralta
Gomez 3B
Cabrera 2B

Iwamura
Crawford
Upton
Pena
Young
Harris
Gomes
Wilson
Navarro

by ASP on Aug 19, 2007 1:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Interesting lineup. Gutz in the 2 spot, Gomez at 3B hitting 8th and Droobs getting the start at 2B. I like it.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I like this line-up alot.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Wedge eventually comes up with a starting lineup we like, given the number of different lineups he has tried.  Even with all that tinkering, it still seems like he is excessively cautious.

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
A new right-hander in the two spot.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 1:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Salaries aside, which player would you want to have around for the next 6 seasons, Alfonso Soriano or Gutierrez?

by homelytourist on Aug 19, 2007 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I don't know how you can say salaries aside. But, I still think I might go with Gutz either way.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
a dull and silly way of illustrating my Gutz favoritism.  
It's a provocative comp, but the two players have quite a bit in common outside of reputation and salary.

by homelytourist on Aug 19, 2007 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Soriano looks a little brittle to me - both physically and emotionally.  So, I'll go with Gutierez for the long term.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Soriano, no question. Of course, salaries actually matter.
I spoke the words but never gave a thought to what they all could mean.

by Brad D on Aug 19, 2007 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Wedge says he would love to keep 5 on the bench if he can swing it.  So it's not a done deal that a position player will be sent down/dropped when Lee (most likely) is added Saturday.

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 1:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
A guess a lot will depend on how the pitching goes this week.  They won't have a choice if the bullpen has been stressed -- or if it gets stressed a few days later.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
My only concern with Gutz in the 2-hole is his K-tendency with Shields on the mound. He didn't strike out, and thus I am pleased.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 1:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Does it really matter if its Gutz or Blake who strikes out?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i appreciate you, victor.
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by AngG on Aug 19, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
have the others not been time machining properly in my absence, or have you been here in the future with us lately?
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by AngG on Aug 19, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm still living in the past unfortunately. I just can't stomach parting with my Commodore 64.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
nice hustle
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 1:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha I thought he crushed that.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
What the hell kinda camera work was that? Could've sworn Pronk hit the roof with that one!

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
what was up with that camera? I thought Pronk hit that ball to South Beach.

by ASP on Aug 19, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Why do I still get excited when the ball leaves Pronks bat?

by new zealand tribe fan on Aug 19, 2007 1:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Love getting on the board in the first. Shut 'em down CC!

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I find these camera angles confusing.

by homelytourist on Aug 19, 2007 1:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Mmm ... striking out the leadoff hitter. Yummy.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Asdrubal looks smoother to me than Barfield.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Gameday is being wacky, but a strikeout and two groundouts is a great way to start the ballgame after we get on board in the first.

Positivity alert.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 2:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Had to go into work to listen to GameCast.  Man I love listening to baseball games!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
man the camera angles are seriously starting to get me PO'd....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Nah, they're all discussing haberdashery on the Maybin thread.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha I think I'm done with the Marte thread.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
so, it's not just me that some of these camera angles are really strange and vaguely dizzying?
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by AngG on Aug 19, 2007 2:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i just feel sorry for the people who are drunk and watching this game, after every hit they have to reach for the bucket due to motion sickness
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
yeah, i was kind of like, "do i need a nap? was morning alcohol a bad decision?" no, no, the cameras are just going nuts on their own. i'm not sure if this is reassuring to me or not.
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by AngG on Aug 19, 2007 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Anybody on this thread remember Joe Tait doing the Indians games?  I always thought he was the best - even better than Jimmy Dudley insert agist shot here
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Scouting report on Sizemore and Peralta today: throw a low strike early in the count and a low change-up with two strikes.

by FranklinScott on Aug 19, 2007 2:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Good to see cabrera battleing
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
What's up with the new headline on the website?

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
"We won one yesterday. If we win today, that's called two in a row. Win tomorrow, that's called a winning streak. It has been done before." --Lou Brown, Major League II
"We've talked about it so many times," Wedge said, "but this is a special group."

by CarnegieAndOntario on Aug 19, 2007 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
lol
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Edit: that was my paraphrase since I watched that last night. Probably not an exact quote.
"We've talked about it so many times," Wedge said, "but this is a special group."

by CarnegieAndOntario on Aug 19, 2007 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Version I found online:

"Ok, guys. We've won two games in a row. If we win tonight, its called a winning streak. IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE."

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hey Jay, how's things going at the Sunday brunch?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Yankees up 2-0
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
So it appears we're headed for another Sabathia-Santana matchup on the 29th?

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
And Laffey/Sowers/Lee unfortunately for that makeup game against the M's on the 30th.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
You say that as if its a bad thing....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
No worries - Johan's the Tribe's bitch.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
yeah great, we bunt in situations where its not realy needed, but when we SHOULD bunt we dont, eh Jhonny?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
me neither, but im sorry, EVERYBODY and I mean everybody who dawns a uniform with an MLB logo above their name on the back has got to be able to lay down a sac bunt when its needed.
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Even Hafner, Big Papi and Mr. Bonds?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
with those shifts???? hell theyd get a hit every time!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
You did say sacrifice didn't you?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
yes, i did, and yes those big three should be able to do it to (when its needed), I still cant wrap my head around why we dont see more bunts from them with the shifts on early in the game just to get on base. and why didnt grad drop one down the 3B line with the shift on the other night?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
grady*
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Meh, groundouts. But 59 pitches through 3 for Shields.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 2:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Almost 20 pitches and inning for Shields.  We're gonna be into that meat bullpen by the sixth - perfect!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Doesn't even seem like he's thrown that many for some reason.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
So what's everyone got planned for the off day tomorrow? Yes, I do plan events around offdays.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hafner with a cripple double - could it be he's starting to hit?  It's too much to ask.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Yeah he hit it so hard that it's a double for a guy on crutches - old school reference.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hey Jay, Joe over on the Malbin thread needs a lesson in baseball economics and frankly I don't have the energy any more.  Wanna help?

BTW, we could use a feature on how unfettered salary spending favors the haves and hurts the have nots.  Wadya think?

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
You guys usually lose me on those diaries once they go vertical.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Yeah, I got about 10 more points to make but there's just not enough room.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Good thing Pronk was able to walk home on that one.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 19, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
ada boi jhonny
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
theres the career .400 hitter vs. the D-rays for ya
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i appreciate any and all updates.

/shifty eyes.

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by AngG on Aug 19, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
pretty much right at crawford
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 2:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
This is kinda fun.

I'm watching the game on Sopcast and updating the LTG threads.

Is that multi-tasking??

by Cactus Jack on Aug 19, 2007 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Wang in a jam in the 5th, with game now tied 2-2

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 2:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
runners 1st and 2nd , 1 out , Guillen batting

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
oh, boo on you, bj upton.
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by AngG on Aug 19, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hey hey I was taking precautions with GFP around. And we did get two more outs after I made the warnings.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha GTF. Talking about GTF to GFP makes my head explode every once in a while.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Man that was horse radish. Ball three should've been the inning there.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Mags and Sheff just pulled off a double steal? How does that happen?

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Anyone know a place online to watch this game live?? STO isn't carrying it due to it being WKYC, and since I've moved back to Athens for school, it seems I'll be unable to watch these games. Missing a Sabathia gem would be frustrating, so please help!

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2007 2:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
ok, let me clarify. some place where it's free. if there is even such a place.

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
sopcast program
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Alright Kenny way to go, there's that slash-style I like.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
finally caught up with my reading in other threads.  man, last time i go to brucnh on a sunday before a game...

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Ooh, hooray for brunch.  Where'd you go?

by NickFantana on Aug 19, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
He left Hooters to see a low-titter broken up. I can just imagine his disgust.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Love those Jersey girls!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Wait, what about Jersey girls?

After the Jets/Giants game next Saturday we were planning on partying the night away in NYC, but if these Jersey girls are what I think they are, we might have to stay close to the Meadowlands.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Here's the rankings:

Houston
Atlanta
Jersey
LA

NYC girls are in the second division - kinda like the Orioles or A's

Jersey girls are to American female pulchritude what the Indians are to baseball.  Scrappy and always in the running.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Now are we exluding Texas girls from the list because of "upper cortical" issues? Because my experience on vacations to the Caribbean has been that they're all gorgeous. SSS of course.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha of course I meant Texas girls NOT from Houston.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Ahhhhhhh last I checked Houston was in Texas.  BTW they are all gorgeous - and don't sell them short - those girls are smart!

BTW the cognitive function is above the tentorium, lots of other stuff going on above the cord.  Super tentorium is more accurate.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha we do neuro 2nd year, so I'll take your word for the time being.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
BTW NYC and LA girls are like Brandon Phillips - look good but with attituce issues.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Yeah that's not cool. I'm used to humble Canadian girls so that would drive me up the wall.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Upon further review, supratentorial encompasses all of vision, language, memory, cognition, emotions, autonomic control, etc.

Yeah I'd say that'd be sufficiently insulting to throw at someone haha.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I should charge tuition.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha get in line Chuck, enough university organizations are siphoning my funds these days.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
they've got everything, really.  lots of crazy and standard egg dishes.  i always get the 'crunchberry pancakes'.  whole wheat pc' with blueberries and granola mixed in.  great stuff.

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
So they do mostly breakfast for brunch....i like a lunchier brunch myself.

by NickFantana on Aug 19, 2007 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
man, we seem good at pelting opposing pitchers with batted balls

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
OK  Go to this web site.

http://myp2p.eu/index.htm

Download the Sopcast player.

The first page gives you a choice of sports you can watch.  Click on MLB and you'll see a list of games available.  Click on play for the game and it might takea while, but the player will come up and will show the Indians game from Channel 3.

It's free and I watched the Browns game last night.  Sometimes the feed freezes up but have patience, it'll come back.

The picture isn't the greatest but it's better than nothing.

by Cactus Jack on Aug 19, 2007 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Every time someone posts this I feel like a chump for paying for mlb.tv.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
no way, it's nice for blackouts, but the quality blows by comparrison

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Quality, quality, quality.  Reliability, reliability, reliability.

MLB tv  =  Worth it if you can afford it.

by NickFantana on Aug 19, 2007 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
word.
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Again, you say "free," but I say "questionable legality."
"We've talked about it so many times," Wedge said, "but this is a special group."

by CarnegieAndOntario on Aug 19, 2007 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
it is legal
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Those sites are very popular over here for English football matches but are considered illegal because of the way the league distributes viewing rights etc...I'd imagine MLB would feel the same.

by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Aug 19, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Honestly every time someone brings up that program I think of that Seinfeld episode, with federal agents busting into my house and riddling my body with bullets.

"What have you done to my little cable boy!"

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'd rather get shot up than go to Sherrif Joes Pink Underware Palace.

by Cactus Jack on Aug 19, 2007 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Google Sherrif Joe Arpio (sp) in Phoenix.  Has a tent prison where they all have to wear pink underware and work in "Chain Gangs" on the highways.

Gets re-elected every time.

by Cactus Jack on Aug 19, 2007 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Not to get too political but referencing the Maybin thread, that Sherriff guy is actually one who might deserve a Nazi comparison.  He treats prisoners like sub-humans.

by NickFantana on Aug 19, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
NYY-DET 3-3
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 19, 2007 3:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
It works!! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You!!!

by obobcatu on Aug 19, 2007 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
way to go, offense!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
surprise surprise
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
that means that this team is very stike-out prone
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
How do they compare to other teams in the league?

by NickFantana on Aug 19, 2007 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
the most out of any contenders in the AL, by like 150
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
But to say "surprise, surprise" after Pronk, Garko and Jhonny strike out in the same inning is irrational negativity. If you weren't surprised by all three striking out, I suggest you see a doc to inquire about your ongoing depression.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i did, but he said the only remedy is a tribe playoff apperence....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm gonna go ahead and say that's some irrational negativity.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Seemed rational to me.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Crap - Hammy had that as a DP ball!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'd like to announce that Ryan Braun is my favorite non-Indian in the major leagues.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Me too, since I picked him up in my Fantasy league when he only had 7 HR's.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
OK, who's in charge of run support on this thread now that Turk's outta commision?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Gomez due for a hit, career .400 hitter vs tampa
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
-_-
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hey ya think this Glover kid is any relation to Freddie Glover - he was born in Cleveland.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Unless his real name is in fact Gary Glitter and he changed it to Glover to avoid ridicule.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Random Question: who names their kid Joba?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
It was something else (Justin?) but he changed it.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
yeah i just googled it, it was justin
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
It's actually a cool story.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm told Mr. Chamberlien is a Native American descent - I think that's where the Joba comes from.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Also, how dominant has this kid been? He may be the best pitching prospect since Felix Hernandez and that sucks for us.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Let's see an AstroSwipe of second base.
Still an Ohio boy through and through!

by TribeLoverInNewYork on Aug 19, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Kenny still has the wheels
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Alright that was a fast-developing play, holy cow.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Cripes, not the best game at the plate for Gutz.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i dont care if we strike out the rest of the game, as long as we dont give up a run....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Alright you guys creep me out when it goes silent like this....

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 3:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
has it been talked about yet that Adam Miller returned to Buffalo today, relieved Laffey, 1IP 2K 11 pitches, 8 strikes.

Should be interesting in who gets called up, Lee or Laffey..I'm hoping for Laffey.

Biggest news of that game though is Mike Rouse had a double.

by ASP on Aug 19, 2007 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
This game all seems vaguely familiar. Like I have seen it countless times for the past 2 months.

:sigh: Poor CC.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2007 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Come on offense. TOP OF THE NINTH IS BREAKOUT TIME.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Alright with JoeBo up now, I pray we don't make the same mistake we did the other night. If we're still tied in the 10th, it better be Awesome Raf Time.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
which one of the awesome Rafs do u mean?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
The only reason that was done was because there was no way for Borowski to get a save, so they used him in the 10th.  On the road, in extras (hopefully), the visiting team would be eligible to get a save, so Borowski will be put back for a potential lead.

by Fundamentals on Aug 19, 2007 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
LET'S GO TRIBE!!
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 4:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Yanks win 6-3
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I go out to Whole Foods for a sandwich and you guys let the DRays tie it up. Ouch!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Our 2 runs should have been enough against the D-Rays.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
3 K's for Peralta. :(

Aside from a few guys, these team seems to swing for the fences when the score is tied.

by Toxicadam on Aug 19, 2007 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Two righties coming up, and the lefty Pena. Do you go Perez or Betancourt? For some reason Pena scares me against Raf Sr.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
will CC ever get #15???
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
last 6 starts of 2 runs or less??? damn straight! did he even walk anybody today?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
190 IP and 27 BB, thats just whack...does anybody here believe that CC could win the Cy Young this year?
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
If baseball writers were smart enough to recognize that wins matter very little, yes. But they're not. And he pitches in a small market. And Fausto will split votes. So I doubt it.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
its sad
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Sad, but true my friend.  Reality fails to hit you.

by tborish on Aug 19, 2007 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Sensibility fails to hit you, apparently.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
OMG you're arguing on the internet!  Cool!

by tborish on Aug 19, 2007 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Question: Garko is having an excellent year defensively at 1st base, much better than expected. He's got 7 errors in 810 chances, a .991 fielding percentage.

Where can I compare this stat for other AL first basemen?

by ploni on Aug 19, 2007 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Alright the Rays broadcast just set the all-time record for replays of a home run by a player of a last place team.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
What do you expect?  They have 7 year olds working for them.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm back.  Fed and caffeined.

Mario, Chuck -- thanks for the new way to call someone stupid.  I've been needing one.

Ruling -- it was rational negativity in this case.  Irrespective of what it means or doesn't mean, we do in fact strike out a ton.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
My pleasure - didn't think anybody was reading that far up-thread.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Damnit, I thought we were having a nice little private convo about the respective merits of American girls. I feel kinda violated now.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Anyone with a visual - getting squeezed this AB?

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Maybe on one pitch outside, but it was fair.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
pheww
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Not that anyone cares, but C.C. has been gifted about three Wins and one ND by the offense this season.  I don't know if I'd say the ledger is even, but he's 7th in ERA and 3rd in Wins, so he's not exactly getting screwed this season.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
That's fair. I was just going on his recent Kevin Millwod 2005-esque streak of poor run support.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
HIP HIP!

hooray.....alright let's light this baby up.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Against this BP, we take this one.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
this game is tainted by Betancourt's contributions

Betty destroyed our national innocence with his steroid use

by Freneau on Aug 19, 2007 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
What the Royals getting crushed again?  
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Testing has been beefed up. Ask Neifi Perez.

by JulioBernazard on Aug 19, 2007 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Man this Astronaut kid sure can play!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
That might top the list of coolest nicknames ever for Latino players.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Buzz Cabrerra - yeah I like it -- Wait - wait did I just here "Trot Nixon pinch hitting for Franklin Gutierez"?   That should send this thread into a tizzy!
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I have a question.  Watching the Lofton AB, Reyes held the ball on the mound, waiting for the batter to call timeout, to throw off the timing of Cabrera.  After the fiasco with Betancourt earlier this year, why isn't that an automatic ball?  Its a relatively common situation in baseball, so why isn't that a ball after 12 seconds?  I'm not trying to be smart here, I'm just wondering what the difference is, because he was clearly past 12 seconds in at least two pitches when he was trying to keep Cabrera close...

by Fundamentals on Aug 19, 2007 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Isn't the timer only in effect when 1st is open?
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I don't know, that could be and would explain the difference.  I'd never really heard of the timing rule before this year, so any nuances to it wouldn't likely be in my mind yet...

by Fundamentals on Aug 19, 2007 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
nuh uh he di'int !!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
So the confidence interval for hitting .500 off Reyes after hitting .000 is 0?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I swear to God I'm nearing tears after that at bat.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I want to see the two-strike bunt from Grady.  Doesn't make any sense whatsoever, but I want to see it anyway.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
It's the sense of hopelessness of Grady at 0-2 ... and the endless world of possibilities offered by  bunting.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Oh two strikes on Grady - not good.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
WHY THE HELL WERNT WE SQUEEZING????
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Because our best hitters are up.

Also, not a walkoff situation.  We want two runs if we can get them.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
IF...hm i dont like relying on "ifs" with this team....id rather get the sure run than watch martinez GIDP
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
MUAHAHA THE INVERSE JINX WORKED!! WE GOT A RUN!!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
What the hell is an inverse jinx? A jinx that approaches some kind of asymptote? I'm confused.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
If WE% knew that Victor was up, it would be much higher.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Get your shots of Everclear ready, its JoBo time!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Where the hell was that ground out? Gameday has it in short CF!

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 4:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007

GAAAAAHHHHHHH do I *hate* when Hamilton freaks out sometimes.

That said, I'll still take the run. :)

--
"Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."

by vbc3 on Aug 19, 2007 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hooray for JoeBo getting to face the ass-end of their lineup.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
delayed:

Grit ALARM!

and

victor maRBItinez!

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Oh man this would be a great win. And to think the Tigers still have to play the Yankees for another series.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
one shot of everclear!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
congrats to JoeBo on his first career strikeout

thank God the game isn't tied, or he'd be unable to function

thats how closer moxie works

by Freneau on Aug 19, 2007 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
?
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
o.O' confused gaze
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Yep those Royals must be getting creamed today.

What - you come over here to get a taste of pennant-race baseball?  It has been a long, long time in KC!

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
hey now, we had a fluky pennant race in 2003

by Freneau on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
borowski farts out moxie at the breakfast table.

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Lol Luke Hochevar lol.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
second shot of everclear!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Juuuuuust getting here but I wanted to contribute some positive good vibes for JoBo at least.

by Jackdaw on Aug 19, 2007 4:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I can't wait for Entourage tonight.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i hate iwamura
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 4:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
You are a crazy time machine, by about 30 seconds.
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
27 innings and Manning still can't pronounce "iwamura"

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Japanese is so phonetic too. I don't get what his problem is.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Ohhh dear.
--
"Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."

by vbc3 on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Bloody hell.
--
"Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."

by vbc3 on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Joe's , please! These are the Devil Rays!

by LeftyCatcher on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Carl Freakin' Crawford - Oy! .471 in August.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
crap and we have to face the hottest  hitter since the allstar break
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Ouch.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
UGH!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
somebody send Mr. Opportunity home in a body bag

by Freneau on Aug 19, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Bahahaha. Seconded. I'll put up twenty bucks for the hit.
--
"Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."

by vbc3 on Aug 19, 2007 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
GOOD NEWS! We don't have to see JoeBo the rest of the game!

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Man. these guys don't want me to leave my house today.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
These weren't cheap hits.  He didn't get torched, but he didn't get screwed, either.

On the bright side, it's probably L-Rafi time now.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
The one thing I like about saving him is that he likely gives us multiple innings.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
good news for you guys... Dohmann sucks hard

he's a former Royal you know

by Freneau on Aug 19, 2007 5:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Isn't about every sucky player in the Majors an ex-Royal?
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Oh yeah, and a sucky Royal too.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
OK, everything's cool....we can still score here and bring in Raffy Jr. to actually make the save.

by Jackdaw on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I hope Buzz comes up again this inning....
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
DAMN U BJ!!!!!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Peralta's gonna jack one out of here. Watch.

by LeftyCatcher on Aug 19, 2007 5:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
still, i prefer to fixate on his inability to move the runner along in the 2nd inning or whatever

gotta stay on message for the Drennan/Munch types

by Freneau on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
How are we at 400 comments considering there was a solid 20 minutes where nothing was said?

I guess we're just working the count this afternoon....

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
You know what's sick about BJ Upton? Somehow, his brother will probably be better.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
DAMN U BJ!!!!!!! (again)
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Oh, F me. I went to do 5 minutes of actual work in 5 hours, and I blew it. I caused the blown save. And now Upton apparently made a great catch in CF.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
unimpressive AB. Huge lack of grit. Nixon needs to give Gomez a talkin to.

by ASP on Aug 19, 2007 5:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Momentum is wearing... aqua? seafoam green? metallic blue-green?

by JulioBernazard on Aug 19, 2007 5:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Haha how do Buzz, Kenny and Jhonny communicate? Like I'm serious, what the hell do they say?

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Sigh....just got home, and before the score, I saw it was Reyes vs. Borowski. I said "hope this is the save situation joebo" and was unpleasantly surprised when it was and he blew it.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
And btw, who the hell is buz? droobs?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Joe Blow strikes again.  Against the Devil Rays, no less.

What a mess.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 19, 2007 5:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm walking around the house just cursing the guy. I've called him every thing I can think of and I'm still POed.

I didn't think I would ever say this but as iffy as Wickman used to be this jagoff makes Wickman look automatic.  I have ZERO confidence when Blowkowski comes in to a game.  

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 19, 2007 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Eh, i'd say they're not too different. We just haven't seen Wickman for a year, so it seems like he was worlds better.
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Aug 19, 2007 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
They ought to tell Blowhard that because he decided to walk the worst hitting full-time player on the worst team in the majors with 2 outs in the ninth, that he needs to find his own way to Detroit.

Don't let him on the team plane.  

Damn the tribe cannot continue to blow these opportunities to get ahead in the standings.  They have to win the division or they're not making the postseason.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 19, 2007 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
On a different note, anyone see Johan Santana's game today? 17K's against Texas in 8 innings. Jesus Christ.
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
We've got to get that guy over to the NL.  I'll start working on the Phillies from here.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
He could probably challenge the strikeout record regularly, facing teams like the Pirates or Giants.
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Aug 19, 2007 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
2 hits and no walks too. I have him on my fantasy teams so I'm pretty stoked.
The poster formerly known as JRam.

by Joe on Aug 19, 2007 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
If we're going to claim that Joe has balls of steel, Perez must have some kind of modern synthetic ball that are undestructible by any known means.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 5:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Praise be to Raffy, he of the modern synthetic marbles.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
he doesnt need a lead plate when goes in for x-rays
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
And a product of our Latin American scouting.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Only because Shapiro sucks at the draft! (sarcasm)

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Someone please tell me why droobs is buzz?
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Cuz his first name sounds like Astronaut - so he's Buzz Aldrin - weak, but not bad.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
This just in: cabrera looks good
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Somewhere, Mark Shapiro is sadistically laughing.

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I like the cat-call sound of "drooooooooooobs" a lot though.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
OMG WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO CAN BUNT!!!!
c'mon now dawg....

by GermanysTribeFan on Aug 19, 2007 5:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
If you got the right guy bunting it works.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Grady is due, btw. Just a reminder.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Thank God we bunted.  Bunting is so awesome.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
C'mon, Perez ftw....literally and figuratively.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Grady.  Enough of this.

I am ordering you to get a hit.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
How many times does Victor have to win this game for us?

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Question, Jay:

Garko is having an excellent year defensively at 1st base, much better than expected. He's got 7 errors in 810 chances, a .991 fielding percentage.

Where can I compare this stat for other AL first basemen?

by ploni on Aug 19, 2007 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Thanks and not ruined at all.

Leading the team in batting average . . . first year at the MLB level . . . in a new position . . . top 10 defensive performance . . . seems like a winner to me.

by ploni on Aug 19, 2007 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I wouldn't say he's having an excellent year, but the conventional defensive stats don't tell you much about a player's performance.  He's misplayed a bunch of balls that should have been handled by the 2B.  But he's done a fine job and, as you note, has committed very few errors.  Not really surprising as a converted catcher -- he must have good hands.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Here is a ranking of all qualified 1B in the majors in Revised Zone Rating, a much better defensive stat than fielding percentage.  Garko is 10th out of 22, so he's about middle of the pack.  As you said, not too bad for a converted catcher.

By the way, Pujols is first.  I hear he's a pretty decent hitter, too.

by Buckeye Brad on Aug 19, 2007 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Pooh pooh, doughboy
God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Aug 19, 2007 5:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I think the Devil Rays should just switch their AAA and MLB teams.  Wouldn't you all rather watch a Durham Bulls home game?

by NickFantana on Aug 19, 2007 5:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
In other news, Jon Garland gave up about a bazillion runs today, so my fantasy ERA is shot this week. Good thing it's a H2H.
"The hibachi is coming to a city near you. I'm cooking chicken and shrimp, but if you want to throw a double team my way, filet mignon gets cooked too"

by Rayman @ Let's Go Tribe! on Aug 19, 2007 5:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Hammy - with suprise in his voice - first two pitches and not bunting.  What a suprise.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this one of the only two situations when a bunt is the correct play?

by Gradyforpresident on Aug 19, 2007 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
that's pretty bad, considering Sizemore pretty much had the ball and Gomes was still in the picture 10 feet off second base.

by ASP on Aug 19, 2007 5:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Good god. 32 LOB over this series.
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"Charlie, here comes the deuce. And when you speak of me, speak well."

by vbc3 on Aug 19, 2007 5:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Well, this team can't bitch that they didn't have opportunities.

by SpringTrainingFun on Aug 19, 2007 5:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I blame the LGT title change..unless that was changed before last night's game.

by ASP on Aug 19, 2007 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
No, it was in tribute to last night's third straight victory.

I have updated it.  It's all my fault.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darn Borowski!
Hello everyone,

Disappointing loss and another game we gave away, or should I say, Borowski gave away - 2 outs, bottom of the 9th, the #9 hitter who was  hitting .204 coming into today's game, who was 0 for his last 8 and 1 for his last 12, and who hasn't hit .250 since he came over to TB in 2006, and Borowski walks him.  Ugh!

Of course, the offense should have done more, especially against that Devil Rays' bullpen.  

It would have been really nice to go into Detroit up 2.5 games; 1.5 is not bad, but it still stings to know we should have been up 2.5.

Somehow, someway, this offense must be more consistent.  Borowski needs to "stop making mountains out of molehills" out of saves so often either because, every so often, like today, it comes back to bite you, and at this point of the season, you can't keep giving away games you should be winning - it could mean the difference between playing in October and staying home in October.

Let's hope the offense can find itself in Detroit and we can win the series (or more) beginning Tuesday.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Aug 19, 2007 5:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
i'm going outside the box on this one.  this is on CC and that meatball he served up to pena.

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 5:51 PM EDT reply actions  

CC did no worse than Santana, who has given
up a few solo shots in some of his starts, and nothing else, and those are usually considered solid to very solid starts.  Besides, Pena does have power, as does Upton - it's not like he gave up a HR or walked the weak-hitting Dioner Navarro like Borowski did.

The offense & Borowski were the biggest culprits, with Borowski being the biggest one in my book because of the way he gave up that run - 2 outs, walks the #9 hitter, who isn't a strong hitter, then giving up two straight hits.  

Borowski doesn't walk Navarro, and he shouldn't, we likely win this game.  That's why he's the #1 cause for the loss in my book - a closer is supposed to save these types of games, and while he's done it for the most part, the way he lost it today is pretty much inexcusable and heart-breaking for a playoff-contending team, especially when we could have gained another game on the Tigers and lost more ground to the M's and Yankees.  

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Aug 19, 2007 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Team OBP today was .250.  LOB was not the biggest problem.

Even the bets relievers are only going to hold the opposition scoreless 80-90 percent of the time.  Two of our best gave up one run each today.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 5:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
All I can say is that if the Tribe FO is not looking for an accomplished closer in the offseason, they are crazy.
I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 19, 2007 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I think the most frustrating thing is losing a game in the standings to both the Mariners and Yankees.  There is no good reason we should be falling behind in the Wild Card race, irrespective of the division race.  We're about to be two games behind Seattle, which is really mind-boggling.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 6:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
J.J. Putz WPA 4.97
Joe Borowski WPA 1.11

just sayin'

by Brick. on Aug 19, 2007 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
yeah, we should've made that Borowski for Putz deal when we had the chance .... oh, wait.
Turf Toe -- Sports skewered weakly (and weekly.)

by emd2k3 on Aug 21, 2007 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Indians have 5 games left against Mariners so they have an opportunity to step up against them

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Mariners also have 7 left against the Angels, 3 vs. NY and 3 vs. Detroit

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Fear the Mariners - they're the real deal.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 19, 2007 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Has the Indians grit disappeared again?

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Let's hope not, but that's why we've got to stop
losing games like this that we should win, something we've done too much of lately, either due to weak offensive outputs, weak relief pitching (especially from Borowski's meltdowns,) or both.  It stops the Indians from building some real momentum and getting into one of those tears where you win 5-6 in a row, 7-9 out of 10, etc.  

A streak like that would help us put some distance between us and the Tigers, especially with how they have played of late (hopefully, that continues.)  Then, we wouldn't have to worry about the M's and Yankees, while the Tigers would.

Come on Indians - start playing your "A" game from here on out; we really haven't seen that consistent "A" game since May in my opinion.

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Aug 19, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Puke.
"We've talked about it so many times," Wedge said, "but this is a special group."

by CarnegieAndOntario on Aug 19, 2007 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I wrote an enormous diary about Joey Drama, but decided not to post it because it was a little too much in terms of bashing.

Let me say this though, as long as we're in 1st, Joe can blow all the saves he wants. But I'll be damned if we're playing catch-up and he throws away winnable games.

The way we're playing can we really afford to be giving away games like this?

Oh, and Joe has now given up runs in 7 of his last 13 outings.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
"Let me say this though, as long as we're in 1st, Joe can blow all the saves he wants"

Bad attitude to have. If he keeps blowing saves we won't be in first for long. It also kills a team to see all the hard work they went through to go away in the last inning.

I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 19, 2007 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm saying "he can blow all the saves he wants" as in I won't call for his head on a platter yet. I'm damn close though.

by supermarioelia on Aug 19, 2007 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
He's Wickman only not obese.
I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 19, 2007 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm not sure how much I agree with the Wickman comparisons.  Aside from the fact that both of them seem to always put runners on base and it is agonizing to watch them struggle for the last out, i think Wick was a lot better.  
I haven't looked at their numbers, but just from observation it seems to me that Wickman was better at getting outs.  When he would put runners on base it was from a lot of infield hits or bloopers.  Those always indicated to me that he made his pitch, but either did it too well (IF hits from balls that get pounded too hard into the ground) or just had some bad luck (bloops).  Borowski appears to get hit harder, letting batters get better swings on the ball.  
Again, this is a more cosmetic observation, but give me Wickman over Borowski any day.  

by mpstable on Aug 19, 2007 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I'm taking the perspective that it's 2 of 3 against a bad team. That's good. No one can really expect sweeps from here on out.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2007 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Mariners just swept the White Sox and took 5 of 6 from them this month.  Hope we can do as well against the White Sox and Mariners.

by palcal on Aug 19, 2007 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I don't give a shit about the M's right now. We're leading the Central until further notice.

by afh4 on Aug 19, 2007 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Sorry, I'm with palcal on this.  We had three excellent starts but only one quality offensive performance and one quality bullpen performance.

Given even an average performance from either the offense or the bullpen, we'd have totally crushed the Rays this weekend.

by Jay on Aug 19, 2007 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
I could see getting held down by Shields, who has been fairly solid all season, but it looks like we picked the wrong time to go up against Edwin Jackson (who has pitched more to his potential his last 4 starts.)

However, walking a #9 hitter (.205 no less) in any situation is unforgivable in my book.

Turf Toe -- Sports skewered weakly (and weekly.)

by emd2k3 on Aug 21, 2007 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Although the Devil Rays always seem to play better than their record would indicate, giving good teams real trouble, we could have (and should have) taken all three this weekend.

The Yankees got back into the playoff race by beating the crap out of bad teams.  That's what good teams do.  You can only play the teams on your schedule, but you have to make the most out of the games you play.

We won the series, and that's always important, particularly on the road, but we should have won all three games - and with a 'reasonable' performance from either the offense or the bullpen on Sunday, we would have.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Aug 20, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Agreed - we should have won all 3 games!
Hello everyone,

I agree with those who said we should have won all 3 - we gave this game away against the D'Rays, by most accounts, a bad team, and in the race we're in, we can't afford to give up games like this.  

2/3 is satisfying/good when you are legitimately beat in 1/3 games, but when you give the game away when your closer walks the weak #9 hitter with 2 outs in the 10th, then gives up back-to-back hits after you fought hard to scratch out a run in the 10th, 2/3 is NOT as satisfying/good, and chances are, the Indians probably feel like they should have taken 3/3.

In addition, 2/3 isn't as satisfying/good because the Indians' offense could/should have done more damage against Shields, who's not the same caliber of pitcher CC is at this point, and certainly should have scored more against the D'Rays bullpen, arguably the worst or one of the worst in baseball.  

Unfortunately, we can't rewrite the past; we just have to take out our frustration on the Tigers - but when you have a great chance to sweep, you need to complete it - no more giveaways - we've been too generous in that department lately, and that won't help us, neither in maintaining the AL Central lead or trying to get the highest seed we can for home-field advantage, as we are within striking distance of both the #1 and #2 seeds.  

Just my 2 cents.  :-)

Go Tribe! :-)

by indiansfan on Aug 20, 2007 12:45 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
Well you could say (and I think that you did)

Judge of a man by his questions rather than by his answers.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Aug 20, 2007 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Game Thread: August 19, 2007
That was funny.
I heard that L.Carr is only going to dress 25 players this Sat........the rest can dress themselves!

by gahnki on Aug 20, 2007 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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