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Baseball pet peeves

hey everyone, i've been reading this site for a long time and i finally got around to starting a post and contributing.

i was watching the giants-padres game tonight and noticed how omar came away from the bag on a stolen base attempt and blocked a bad throw from the catcher. that got me thinking about my biggest pet peeves in baseball. i have several, but the one i will start with is a multi-million dollar infielder who does not block such a throw. happens all the time.

any other ideas for biggest pet peeves?

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Re: Baseball pet peeves
Multi-million dollar infielders who hit .230?

I want to congratulate you for not debuting with a senseless rant on how the whole season is going in the toilet.

by Jay on Aug 4, 2007 12:03 AM EDT reply actions  

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Gary Sheffield's bat waggle.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 12:05 AM EDT reply actions  

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I can't lie...I love Sheffield's bat wiggle.  It reminds me of the same intimidation factor that Belle's wide-eyed staredown used to provide.

by APV on Aug 4, 2007 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, yeah, but I just hate Gary Sheffield!
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Most of my pet peeves revolve around how the game is perceived at this point.

As far as the action on the field, I would say that when players become visibly shaken by a call or something not going their way.  It seems like that is all too often followed by some sort of negative result.  Of course, I just peeved myself by making an unquanitifiable statement.

by NickFantana on Aug 4, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

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Most of my pet peeves revolve around how the game is perceived at this point

Not sure I get this - whatya mean?

by mauichuck on Aug 5, 2007 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The wide gulf between the statistical analysis guys who have proven that Wins/RBI/Saves are largely unimportant (and wholly non-predictive) statistics and the fact that everybody in the MSM continues to ignore that fact.  It's difficult for me to watch any baseball related programming with the sound on for this reason.  And I'm including Hammy :(

by NickFantana on Aug 5, 2007 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The general lack of knowledge shown by baseball analysts and commentators. It drives me crazy to watch Baseball Tonight and have the "experts" basically give a commercial for the "little things" while completely ignoring meaningful statistics and other actual measures of performance.
Cleveland: It's like punching yourself in the face.

by Brad D on Aug 4, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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Derek Jeter, Gold Glove shortstop.

by zempf on Aug 4, 2007 12:19 AM EDT reply actions  

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Batter's swinging at a clear ball on a 2-0 count

by zskramer on Aug 4, 2007 1:28 AM EDT reply actions  

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not getting a runner home from third with less than 2 outs.

by fivekmd on Aug 4, 2007 9:21 AM EDT reply actions  

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Outfielders missing the cutoff man. I just can't wrap my head around how a professional athlete with TWO defensive job requirements (stop ball, return to cutoff man) can fail at half of them so often.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2007 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

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The people who wave behind camera shots of the batter because their friend is on the cellphone with them screaming "You're on TV!  Wave!  Wave!"

For that manner, anyone who does it in the dugout suites.  

by nickjs21 on Aug 4, 2007 10:46 AM EDT reply actions  

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Runner from first base held at third base on a ground rule double, even with two outs.

by Jay on Aug 4, 2007 12:05 PM EDT reply actions  

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this is more of an official scoring pet peeve of mine. can someone tell me why there is no official at bat with a sacrifice flyout, but there is an official bat (0-1) for an RBI groundout. is it simply because the groundout is actually a fielder's choice in some regard, meaning the fielder could technically throw home to try to get the runner?

by fivekmd on Aug 4, 2007 12:19 PM EDT reply actions  

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An error by the PITCHER making a run unearned. Stoopid!

by JulioBernazard on Aug 4, 2007 12:43 PM EDT reply actions  

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I lived in NYC from 1984-2004.  Two biggest peeves ware John Sterling slobbering all over Jeter and Fran Healy's enormous man-crush on Piazza.  Having been back here for three years, my biggest peeve might be Sheldon Ocker's toxic blend of ignorance and arrogance.  Number two might be Shapiro's infatuation with character which led to Phillips leaving town and Boone/Nixon coming to town.

by stuart dean on Aug 4, 2007 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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here's mine (not particularly directed at sdean).  people not recognizing if it weren't for shapiro we wouldn't have even had brandon phillips to loose in the first place.  as far as i'm concerned, with colon for grady, i don't give a crap what lee or phillips ever do for any team.

by Brick. on Aug 4, 2007 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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AMEN
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I know that wasn't directed at me but for the record from April 2003: "Why doesn't the Cleveland media get what's going on here?  Indian's GM Mark Shapiro has planted the seeds for the next generation of winning teams using the decaying hulk of the previous generation.  He accomplished this, just before the 90's version hit the iceberg.  Rather than focusing on this positive story, all they want to talk about is the tearing down of a team that had run its course anyway.   Is the Cleveland Plain Dealer's Paul Hoynes too embittered from covering years of lousy teams to get excited about what is germinating under Shapiro's stewardship?  Does The Akron Beacon Journal's Sheldon Ocker think himself to be so all-knowing that he knows better than the Indians' brass as well as everyone else?"

by stuart dean on Aug 5, 2007 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I wonder if A-Rod's 500th homer will be any occasion for a reality check among Yankees fans.  Jeter will, sometime this year or maybe next, celebrate his 200th home run.  And the rest of their stats are extremely similar.

by Jay on Aug 4, 2007 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Jeter has a distinct lead in Clear-Eyed Fist Pumps.

by fleerdon on Aug 4, 2007 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Plus, he's Clutch™ and can Win The Big Games™

Not to mention the Intangibles™

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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PLUS JETER HAS DA RINGS.

Guaranteed Jeter still gets into the HoF.

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

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He deserves it. He's overrated but he's still really, really good.

by afh4 on Aug 4, 2007 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I know, I know. Just hatin'.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Ooh and that other moron who does "color" for Yankees games - Susan Whatserface.  Have you heard the replay of her announcing that Clemens was in Steinbrenner's box and coming back?  It sounded like she was announcing the second coming of Babe Ruth.  

Man do I hate the Yankees and everything about them.

by mauichuck on Aug 5, 2007 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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In a similar vein, any f'ing idiot commentator who muses about the "theory" that when the Yankees are dominant, it's good for baseball as a whole.  Not one shred of evidence to support that, but dreaming up crap like this is what jerkoff writers do instead of their jobs.

by Jay on Aug 5, 2007 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I hear ya!  The corollary to that are the equally stupid pronouncements that the luxury tax has created parity, when it's actually cemented the spending advantage of the Red Sox and Yankees.  It's a  defacto penalty on teams with lessor revenue who try to compete on spending, getting hammered when they reach the luxury tax threshold. Hurts any pretenders far more than it hurts the Yankees or Red Sox, who have the revenue to absorb the hit year-in, year-out.

by Bogalusa Bomber on Aug 5, 2007 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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There are no low-revenue teams getting hit by the luxury tax.  These are the tresholds for the next few years:

  1. $136 million
  2. $148 million
  3. $155 million
  4. $162 million
  5. $170 million
  6. $178 million

The Yankees are the only team to have exceeded it, ever, and the Red Sox are the only other team to come within $20 million of it.  So it is essentially only a Yankees tax.

You could argue it has hurt the most (on the field) for the Red Sox, Mets and Dodgers -- teams that perhaps could afford more upgrades but (unlike the Yankees) can't afford the additional tax.  But it clearly has no negative effect on any other team.

I do agree, however, that baseball's economic fairness issues have improved a bit, they have not been solved by a longshot.

by Jay on Aug 5, 2007 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

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National media bias against Cleveland. They're all out to get us.

Yeah, I said it.

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 4, 2007 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

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Not to mention the media lovefest with the Yanks and the Sawks (Wilbon emphasis needed).
"We've talked about it so many times," Wedge said, "but this is a special group."

by CarnegieAndOntario on Aug 4, 2007 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Just pretend ESPN doesn't exist. It makes life less frustrating.
Cleveland: It's like punching yourself in the face.

by Brad D on Aug 5, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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"DOLAN IS CHEAP!"  Didn't even need a sip of Boodles to get it out of me either.

by Bogalusa Bomber on Aug 5, 2007 1:15 AM EDT reply actions  

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Baseball managers and basketball coaches who get rehired job after job while qualified people wait.  MLB coaches who get hired because they know someone and some of these coaches were considered flakes when they played.  A third person on the ESPN broadcast team when you already have Orel who is quite perceptive and knowledgeable on the team and this former GM takes time from Orel's analysis.  Managers and dugout coaches who do not appear to be in uniforms but in any old top with the team's logo on it--just  taking more away from the traditions of baseball.

by LAIndianfan on Aug 5, 2007 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

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Not sure how you "qualify" as either a basketball coach or a major league manager.  Lotta time in the CBA or AA/AAA?  

It seems to me that some of the better managers and coaches have done neither.  It's also true that a lot of the less talented mangers or coaches have done their time in the lesser leagues.

And I'm with you on maintaining baseball traditions.  BTW, didn't Connie Mack used to wear a suit, tie and straw hat when he managed?  I'd love to see that look again.

by mauichuck on Aug 5, 2007 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

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re: the Connie Mack look, I had the same thought.

Major league managers generally have logged time as minor league managers and/or major league coaches, often both and (in the last several decades) only very rarely neither.

by Jay on Aug 5, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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CC Sabathia's tilted hat. It doesn't seem as obnoxious as it did in 2003 .. but it still bothers me.

by Toxicadam on Aug 6, 2007 8:44 AM EDT reply actions  

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I think it's slowly moving its way more towards the front, and by the time he's ready to retire, he'll be wearing his hat like my dad does.

Or Chuck "Twiggy" Hartenstein:

by emd2k3 on Aug 6, 2007 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I like the tilted hat, it's a sign of character.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 7, 2007 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Second'd
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Aug 7, 2007 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Spectators sitting in front of you at the ball park leaving or returning to their seats in the middle of an at-bat.

Drives me up the frigg'in wall.

by Seattle Tribe Fan on Aug 6, 2007 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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Speaking of fellow spectators, those that show up closer to the third inning than the opening pitch.

by nickjs21 on Aug 6, 2007 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Section 136 of The Jake was Grand Friggin' Central last Thursday.

by emd2k3 on Aug 6, 2007 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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