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Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition

I'm relatively new to LGT, so I apologize if this has been done.

I get the game package so I've seen most of the AL announcers.  I'm curious if there's a consensus for who is the best and worst -- and why.

Underwood is undoubtedly near the top of the list.

I'd have to put Seattle's team near the top as well, but my sample size is tonight's game only.  I've long wished bad things to happen to Hawk Harrelson, but he at least provides some insight from his career.

And I shudder to say this, but Paul O'Neill is pretty solid from what I've heard.

Detroit is an odd case with a seemingly sound play-by-play man and a potentially mentally retarded analyst.

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Re: Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition
I might be wrong, but I don't think you're the first person in LGT history to be less than admiring of Hawk Harrelson. ;^)

by Fiddlesticks on Sep 26, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

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Fiddle,

I at least TRIED to say something nice about Hawk.  He can, at times, provide colorful stories and insight.

But I don't think my opinion would change if I grew up a Sox fan.  Screaming, "C'mon AJ!  YES!" is not broadcasting.

Hawk is the obvious target, but I'm curious about the rest of the league.  Who stands out as the best?  Who are as bad as they seem to me in a small sample?

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 1:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I've always found Staats to be competent.

What about Detroit?  Minnesota?  Oh, and I want Michael Kay kidnapped and held hostage for the duration of the season.

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Here, here on Michael Kay.
Railing against the sacrifice bunt since 2000.

by jdudas on Sep 26, 2007 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

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And by the way, is Corrigan still with the Rockies?

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 1:43 AM EDT reply actions  

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Choosing the absolute worst would be pretty difficult, but Harrelson is probably my pick.  I will give some credit to the Detroit crew for being one of the best this season, though; very knowledgeable and rarely obnoxious.  My second pick for best announcing crew was that time Hammy's WTAM broadcast got dubbed over the STO sound by mistake, that was good.

by Pronk33 on Sep 26, 2007 2:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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Boys, boys, boys, when are you going to realize that all things Yankees are horrible - except for that third base guy?  Susyn Wyman (sp?) who broadcasts on Yankees radio is feet and ankles below even such stellar examples as the aforementioned Hawk Harrelson.  

While driving from Boise to Salt Lake I listened to her and Sterling broadcast a game where the Yankees got drilled by the Blue Jays 7 to 2.  Three hours of excuses and incrimination.  I enjoyed it immensely.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Sep 26, 2007 7:35 AM EDT reply actions  

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Waldman does radio, and yeah, she's unbearable.  She takes about half an hour to do irrelevant out-of-town scoreboard updates.  "In Milwaukee, there's two outs in the top of the first, and both of them have been groundball outs, so it's a good start for Jeff Suppan, who's facing... zzzzzzz..."

But I stand by my comment that Paul O'Neill is very strong as a television analyst.  He doesn't have the classic "broadcaster's voice," but he always has relevant and fair comments to make.

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Well I may have to put aside my irrational hate of all things Yankees in regards to Mr. O'Neill.  After all he is from Columbus and spent a good deal of his career with the Reds.  And despite the fact that I'm currently in New Jersey I can't say that I've listened to him much, so I'll accept your evaluation.  Maybe I can hear Mr. O'Neill announce the play-off games as the Tribe destoys the Yanks and pillages the Bronx.  I'd pretty sure I'd like that.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Sep 26, 2007 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I have posted my comments on the Sterling/Waldman team on WWOR many times.  They are insufferable.

On the TV side, Micheal Kay needs to be kidnapped for more than the season.  He has a show during afternoon drive on the New York affiliate of ESPN radio that I could do without. (I know everything ESPN is essentially a New York affiliate, but this one actually broadcasts from NYC.)

The rest of the Yankees TV team are good.  They rotate several around Kay - Ken Singleton, Bobby Murcer, Joe Girardi, O'Neil, Al Leiter.  I don't mind any of them - and find that O'Neil and Girardi are both really good.  They have some real insights and don't go overboard about the team.

When broadcasting, I think it comes down to ego more than anything else.  Good players who don't feel compelled to tell you how good they were are enjoyable to listen to.  Bad players who are willing to laugh at how bad they were (like - my name sake, Bob Uecker) are fun too.  

For anything else, you'd better have the same rooting interest as they have, or it's going to be a long night.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Sep 26, 2007 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

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As bad as the Yankees radio team is, I would pay cold hard cash to hear John Sterling rather than Michael Kay on the TV broadcasts.
Railing against the sacrifice bunt since 2000.

by jdudas on Sep 26, 2007 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Jeez, I actually don't mind the Yankees radio announcers at all. I don't get where all the hate comes from, except that it's The Yankees. My pick for worst announcer (radio or TV) is Rex Hudler for the Angels. That guy is dumb as a bag of hammers, and he has this abrasive, arrogant jock attitude to top it off. Just brutal. And I agree that the Tampa Bay TV guys are surprisingly good.

by mrich on Sep 26, 2007 8:53 AM EDT reply actions  

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Michael Kay should not just be fired; he should be arrested.  He's really that bad.  He's like an annoying fan who gets his opinions from msnbc.com and the Daily News.  Also, I hope someone eventually buys him a shirt that fits.  Yipes.

These opinions have nothing to do with who's broadcasting.  I think Girardi does fine, albeit not as enjoyable as O'Neill.

Susan Waldman is truly giving female broadcasters a bad name.  I have a large sample size to declare her dreadful.

John Sterling might not be so grating if he didn't say things like, "You see, that's why you have Miguel Cairo in there -- you've got to have someone who can defend first base.  On this ballclub, his bat doesn't matter."  Oh, and this: "An A BOMB FROM A-ROD!"  Or this: "The GIAMBINO!"  Or try this: "It's a rrrribby triple from Robby Cano, DON'T YA KNOW!"

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Is it Kay that has the "See YA!" Homerun call? If so, that's one of my favorite homerun calls I've heard.  He does it the same for the Yankees and their opponents.  Overall, I like him quite a bit actually overall.  

by Ryan Kelsey on Sep 26, 2007 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Well mrich here's a great example (click on listen) of why Ms Waldman is the worst announcer in all of baseball.  IThat voice, the rampant homerism, coupled with the hysteria make a pretty potent trifecta.  Yep, she's the worst.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Sep 26, 2007 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Yes, I've heard this before. It's ridiculous, sure, but this doesn't make her "the worst announcer in all of baseball". If you've got MLB.tv, just watch any Angels home game. Hudler is BRUTAL. I'd rather listen to Waldman any day.

by mrich on Sep 26, 2007 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Underwood isn't so bad if you can neglect his 9 mistakes a game and his horrible home run calls.

I don't really watch enough baseball on TV to make any valid assessment. I always try to listen to baseball on the radio.

Skip Carey from the Atlanta Braves has a voice that induces sleep. I can not watch a Braves game for more than 2 innings before I fall asleep. It's not to say he is bad .. their broadcast just has so much DEAD AIR it lulls you into a coma.

by Toxicadam on Sep 26, 2007 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

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Am I the only one that doesn't mind the "Souvenir City" call? It's probably the best thing Underwood can do.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 11:00 AM EDT reply actions  

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Turk, you can take that back.  And yes, I'd say you must be the only one.

I didn't want this thread to be an Underwood-bashing fest, but now that it's been brought up:

-He has a long, long history of trying to use anecdotes or miniscule samples and making widespread statements that are baldly wrong.  Worse, instead of just guessing that a recent trend ("The Tribe sure seems to bounce back on offense after a pitcher gives up a bad inning!") is indicative of a team's character, he could actually, you know, LOOK UP THE STATS to find out.

-He very clearly feels that catchphrases are important for broadcasters to use, and they're not.  If they're natural or evolve over time, that's fine.  I liked Corrigan's "touch-em-all time!"  But I simply can't take "He's outta ROOM it's outta HERE!"  Or "GOOD-BYE BASEBALL!"

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I just feel like, in a vaccuum, "Souvenir City" is one of the least offensive of the obnoxous HR calls that exist. It has some kind of charm to it, I dunno. I agree with every other point about Underwood you make. Though in fairness, it's probably hard to look up stats in scenarios like you mentioned while you're trying to call a game.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Underwood sucks b/c he so obviously came out of some broadcast journalism school and so he feels like he has to overmodulate his voice all the time to make himself sound interesting. And he has no background in baseball, is not interesting, and sounds just like every other 3rd-rate small time sports announcer.

At least John Sanders knew he wasn't an ex-jock so he would defer to Manning. Underwood thinks he's something special when he's not, and that's annoying.

Oh wait, I guess this diary was about other announcers who suck besides Underwood. I already mentioned Hudler, so... how about Jon Miller? Anybody else starting to think he's becoming tainted just by association with Joe Morgan? I mean, how the hell can you sit in that booth with Joe Morgan for 3+ hours and just not absolutely lose your shit at all the mindless, myopic, arrogant crap that comes out of his mouth?

by mrich on Sep 26, 2007 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

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"how about Jon Miller? Anybody else starting to think he's becoming tainted just by association with Joe Morgan? I mean, how the hell can you sit in that booth with Joe Morgan for 3+ hours and just not absolutely lose your shit at all the mindless, myopic, arrogant crap that comes out of his mouth?"

Here's what Miller brings:

  1. I'm guessing he speaks Spanish, because he does a beautiful job pronouncing Hispanic names.  Perfect, really.  I really respect that.  

  2. He's the only announcer I've ever heard who understands that it's NOT A GROUND RULE DOUBLE when a ball bounces over the fence (it's an automatic double, which is what he correctly calls it).

  3. I'm smitten by the way he says, "SAFE!" in tight situations.  He has a nice broadcasting voice, but he doesn't try to lay it on too thick.

But he lost a lot of respect in his defense of Barry Bonds.  And he allows Morgan to drag him into the abyss a bit too often.

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Also! he does a great Vin Scully imitation.
LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Sep 26, 2007 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

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"in fairness, it's probably hard to look up stats in scenarios like you mentioned while you're trying to call a game"

I would suggest he look them up beforehand.  It's pretty easy to compile a log of useful, interesting, and relevant stats.  He can't have everything at hand, but it's inexcusable to rely solely on anecdotal and small-sample evidence.

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

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Very true.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Well, I find it silly when he refers to "Souvenir City" and the stands are 1/3 full.  Some city, that.

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

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I agree.  Moreover, what, precisely, are the boundaries of this City?  

When I go to a game and sit down the first of third base lines, I still hold out hope of catching a ball that was batted into the stands.  My kids even bring their mits for this purpose.

They have a name for those things - a foul ball.  

Are the seats that don't sit beyond home run territory in Souvenir City or some other municipality within the ball park like Memento Metropolis or Keepsake Korners?

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Sep 26, 2007 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

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You're not alone. Part of what makes it tolerable is that unlike, for example, the Yankees broadcaster, he doesn't say "souvenir city" every-single-goddamn-time somebody hits a homerun.

by Delluccious on Sep 26, 2007 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Exactly.

And how goes things, Scott?

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Jobless. Also, here's a list of scripted homerun calls you should be glad don't get used: "He was sporting some serious wood on that one!" "That ball just had a Haf attack!" "Grady Grady Grady, can't you see? Sometimes your swings just hypnotize me!" "That'll put a rumble in your jungle!" "And there is joy in Cleveland, for Mighty Casey has homered!" "A goner from Garko!" "I'm K-Lovin' it!" "V-Mart says all baseballs must GO!" "Peralta, Bahama, come on pretty mama!" "Little Gutie two shoes!" "And a homerun trot for Homerun Trot!" "That ball just got a free ticket to the left-field seats!" "Astrorific!"

by Delluccious on Sep 26, 2007 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Brilliant.

Also!

Down here, I might as well be jobless.

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

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"Peralta, Bahama, come on pretty mama!"...

"Not Lugo, Not Coco, Marte why don't we go..."

by Brick. on Sep 26, 2007 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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O/T, but I'm probably going to get pulled into a unique design project--the client is a current NBA superstar.  It's "landscape", but there are some enclosures with footprints equal to that of my family home. The accouterments that are being planned are beyond my wildest fantasies.

This is so, so far from the kind of architecture I enjoy. I think I'm going to have to leave.

by homelytourist on Sep 26, 2007 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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single family residential, especially high-end, makes me want to become a lawyer or something.  i can stand just about anything else - currently healthcare, even done deathcare in the past as long as it feels like i'm making buildings...

i'm tellin' ya - if you have any inclination to do so, people are hiring like crazy here, there's just not enough people to go around for all the work that's out there.

by Brick. on Sep 26, 2007 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Yeah, the trick for me is to sync up a relocation with Grad school.  Probably won't be for Architecture, unless I find a way to enjoy this again.  

Chicago is a fine city.  I'm very midwestern.  It makes so much sense.

by homelytourist on Sep 26, 2007 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I think Underwood would be much better back on the radio, and Hegan would be a thousand times better back on TV. Hegan's not a play-by-play guy by any means (anyone who listened to last night's game would agree), but you don't really need one on TV - your eyes can tell you what's going on. But he's good a filling time, and worked very well with Manning when they were paired together.

by Ryan on Sep 26, 2007 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I basically dislike all of the other AL Central announcing teams. Harrelson is obvious, nobody likes that dude. Blyleven is OK at times, but it's basically a guarantee that once a game he's going to go off on pitch counts & mention that back in his day you'd throw 150 pitches and you'd like it, dammit! Rod Allen sounds like Joe Morgan, Jr. to me, which is pretty self-explanatory as to why I'd think that sucks.

And.. I actually have no idea who the KC announcers are, come to think of it. I guess that means they're pretty inoffensive.

by zempf on Sep 26, 2007 11:41 AM EDT reply actions  

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Dave Niehaus on the Mariners radio broadcasts is excellent; he's a bit out of place on TV, though.  I kind of like Dave O'Brien on radio also.
Railing against the sacrifice bunt since 2000.

by jdudas on Sep 26, 2007 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

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She's not really an announcer and she doesn't typically cover baseball, but Rachel Nichols on ESPN drives me nuts.  She's like a caricature of a Daily Show/Colbert Report news caricature...only she's real.  Every time I hear her exagerated, "I'm Rachel Nichols, ESPN" I want to throw my shoe through the television.

by APV on Sep 26, 2007 11:51 AM EDT reply actions  

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I actually think she looks strung out every time I see her.

Whatever happened to Anne Werner, hottest woman on television?

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

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My favorite radio broadcasts are Kansas City (esp. Denny Matthews), Colorado, San Francisco, Toronto, and Oakland.  As I don't listen to much National League ball, I have no opinion on most of their broadcasts, although San Diego (Coleman and Leitner) is unbearable and right at the bottom of my list, alongside the White Sox (Ed Farmer is the worst baseball announcer, radio or TV, bar none) and Yankees.  

by Fiddlesticks on Sep 26, 2007 12:02 PM EDT reply actions  

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Farmer is definitely an acquired taste, but I really enjoy him. The thing is, he's really funny, but it's a bone-dry humor.

One thing I didn't appreciate about him was that Singleton was absolutely horrible when he started in the booth and Farmer didn't exactly go out of his way to help him out. But now Singleton is a lot smoother and they seem to be pretty good together.

by mrich on Sep 26, 2007 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

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The Giants guys are pretty good. Krukow and Kuiper are both former players and actaully relate a lot of sotries to the action. Miller does do games when he is not on ESPN and is very good.

The Oakland guys are decent too. Fosse and Glen Kuiper are pretty good. If Greg Papa ever does the games, look out, he stinks (he's the Raiders play by play; just awful).

As you can tell, I live in the Bay Area.

by talonk on Sep 26, 2007 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I agree with the pro-Jon Miller posts above.  Maybe it's because he's paired with Joe Morgan, who is just beyond abysmal.  Jon is great, though.

Another guy that is fantastic is Steve Stone.  His one downfall, in my mind, is that he sometimes comes off as a bit of a know-it-all, but that is usually tampered by the fact that he does, in fact, know it all.  The number of times per game he will tell you exactly what is about to happen about 1 pitch before it happens is astounding.

My list of the worst, in no particular order:
Hawk Harrelson
Joe Morgan
Joe Buck
Tim McCarver
Ron Santo

by CU Adam on Sep 26, 2007 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

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I regret to say that I don't know the guy's names but I was pretty impressed by the Texas Rangers broadcast team.  They knew more about the tribe when we were visiting then any other broadcast team I've seen.  It was them that said "There probably isn't a team in baseball that could beat the Indians at football."

Thats brilliant.
Good chemistry between the two guys as well.

by MikeCP on Sep 26, 2007 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

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you guys realize, in a few years, we'll probably be watching an indians at whitsox game and AJ Peighdadackcaki will be doing the color commentary.

by Brick. on Sep 26, 2007 12:40 PM EDT reply actions  

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Better than having to watch him play.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Speaking of White Sox ... I bet Ozzie Guillen would be an interesting color guy. He'd probably have to be issuing apologies every other day.

by Toxicadam on Sep 26, 2007 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

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If Ozzie ever gets a job in the booth, the guy, whose job it is to bleep out the expletives, should try to renegotiate his contract to a "per bleep" rate.

by CaptainEasy on Sep 26, 2007 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

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They'd have to put the broadcast on a 6-minute delay, which would have the happy result of pushing their start time back to 7:05, like everyone else.

by Fiddlesticks on Sep 26, 2007 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Wait... how would broadcasting on a 6 minute delay move the start time up to 7:05?
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

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My mother once told me never to explain a joke, which might explain why I never met my father.

by Fiddlesticks on Sep 26, 2007 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I'm so confused.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Start the game at 7:05 so the delayed broadcast comes on the air at the announced and steeply paid-for 7:11.  

It's just a joke; it doesn't need to be able to withstand much scrutiny.  Just like Dick Cheney.

by Fiddlesticks on Sep 26, 2007 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh, see, I got the 7:11 reference. I was just being an idiot and thinking "how would delaying a 7:11 start time cause the game to start at 7:05?" I see now that you meant starting the game at 7:05 and the broadcast at 7:11.

/is completely stupid

Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

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  1. They might move the real start time to 7:05, so that with the six-minute delay it would broadcast at 7:11.

  2. He never met his father, because his father is a joke.  So if he met his father, his mother would have to explain his father ("This guy?  Really?"), and his mother doesn't believe in explaining jokes.

  3. I think it means more than famous.

by Jay on Sep 26, 2007 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

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I got the father joke, actually.
Now the Lord can make you tumble, and the Lord can make you turn, and the Lord can make you overflow... but the Lord can't make you burn

by Turkmenbashi on Sep 26, 2007 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Question:
How do  these announcers who may be unpopular keep their jobs?  Is it because they are ex ballplayers from the the team?  Is it because the teams don't want to make changes in their broadcasters?  Is it because no one complains or that some people like and enjoy these announcers?  I live in Los Angeles and we have had Vin Scully (the best) since the Dodgers came here in 1958.  Rex Hudler and his partner have been broadcasting the Angel games on TV for years, but this season another broadcast team has done some of the TV games.

by LAIndianfan on Sep 26, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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Let's face it, in the days before mlb.com, xm radio and the extra innings package, these announcers' markets were limited to each team's home town and home town fans.

A large number of fans from another team are only being exposed to them over the last few years.  I imagine that most (except perhaps Hawk) are beloved by their team's fan base.  That's why they're keeping their jobs.

I would like to hear what the fans of other teams think of Hammy and Hegan.  They get emotional during the games.  Tribe fans like it because they are probably expressing the same emotions we're feeling at the time.  Does that bother fans of other teams when they listen in the same way we get upset by someone else's homer?  

Still, I think Hammy and Hegan are honest in their assessment of the game, and are willing to criticize the team or players when they deserve it.  Those are the types of announcers on the other side who I can stand to listen to.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Sep 26, 2007 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

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My guess is that, among the ex-jock color guys, there are probably not many applicants for the jobs, at least not many that can not sound like complete idiots on the air at all times. Take Bernie Kosar for example, we all (Browns fans in here, anyway) love him, and he's clearly a very, very smart man, but when he's broadcasting he sounds like a drunken lobotomy patient. So while Hudler at al. maybe be awful, their theoretical replacement (Replacement Level Color Guy) would probably be truly un-listen-to-able.

by mrich on Sep 26, 2007 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

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"My guess is that, among the ex-jock color guys, there are probably not many applicants for the jobs"

This is way, way off.  One of the easiest jobs for an ex-jock is to sit in the booth and blab, and a great deal of them would love to do that.

"at least not many that can not sound like complete idiots on the air at all times."

This is right on.  Remember Brian Brennan?  Davey Nelson?  Whew.

Still, I agree that Hudler should be dragged out and beaten.  

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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Oh, and Harry Kalas of the Phillies has the greatest voice around. I love listening to that guy.

by zempf on Sep 26, 2007 1:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition
I like Underwood and I miss him in the radio booth. Most of the time I follow the Tribe via Tom Hamilton & co., and it's a lot less lively without him. I wish he were back. I liked the trio.

I'll leave now so you won't kill me, but Underwood is good.

by Voltaire on Sep 26, 2007 1:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition
Lots of great comments.  

I'd have to put Berman at the top of the list, simply because he is doing nationally televised games and is painful to hear.  He should stick to football.  It's like he has never listened to Jack Buck, Vin Scully, or Mel Allen.  These are announcers that transcended their teams (which is why I can't include Harry Caray from the Cubs).

The homer announcers (e.g., Hawk) are bad for the opposing fans, but it is always sweet to hear him lose, even with the excuses.

Stuck in Boston, I used to enjoy the Sean McDonough-Jerry Remy team, but since Sean's replacement I only enjoy the calls when the team is losing (and they waste so much time talking about Remy's presidential election - quite obnoxious!).  On the radio, I still don't understand why the Red Sox got rid of Jerry Trupiano.  He had some goofy warning track homerun calls, but he was a treat to listen to.  Now, they have a couple stiffs in the booth with Joe Castiglione.  Honestly, I choose to listen less to their games on the radio.

But, let's face it.  It doesn't matter if a team puts Roseanne Barr in the booth (she would actually sound better than Susan Waldman), the fans will listen.

by Spidey on Sep 26, 2007 3:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition
"The homer announcers (e.g., Hawk) are bad for the opposing fans, but it is always sweet to hear him lose, even with the excuses."

First game of the season featured just a beautiful game-ending call by Hawk.  He did not think for a moment that J-Mike was going to catch that ball (did anyone?) and it was like every ounce of pure joy and excitement was sucked out of him when he had to say, "Caught."

That said, Hawk has been effusively complimentary in the second half regarding the Tribe.  Perhaps that's because he wants fans to think that if the Mighty ChiSox lose, it's only because they're facing Goliath, but it's courteous nonetheless.

by tabler84 on Sep 26, 2007 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition
Boston huh?  I always thought that Ken Coleman was one of the most under-rated baseball announcers around.  He was great when he did the Browns.

And let me wax nostalgic for a moment.  I loved the era of Southern baseball announcers:  Mel Allen, Red Barber and Jimmy Dudley.  There was nothing better on a hot August Cleveland night than sitting on the porch and listening to Dudley to an Indians game.

LeBron must GO!

by mauichuck on Sep 26, 2007 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Worst Announcers -- Sans Underwood Edition
Berman shpuld not do anything except his Swami schtick on Sportscenter. he's horrible when doing highlights of the NFL games. I just wish poor Tom Jackson had a better gig.

by talonk on Sep 26, 2007 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

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