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A stadium by any other name...

Richard Jacobs bought the naming rights of the new Indians Park before the 1994 season; he then re-named it Jacobs Field, after both himself and the real estate company he owned. The name didn't sound corporate, like PNC Park or Qwest Field or Network Associates Coliseum, but more along the lines of Busch Stadium, a park with an aesthetic corporate name.

After Jacobs sold the team to Larry Dolan, he retained naming rights through the 2006 season. The Indians couldn't get a replacement in time for 2007, so the old name was kept through that season. But now the team has found a replacement, the name of one of the few remaining Fortune 500 companies left in the area. The new deal will net the Indians, after initial costs, about $48M over the next 16 years. Needless to say, it won't dramatically change the team budget, but it's still a nice little revenue stream.

To those who grew up with Jacobs Field, including myself, it will take a long time to think of it as anything but The Jake. By the time this current contract runs out, the stadium will have been known as Progressive Field longer than its original incarnation, and time will probably have overcome human stubbornness. It's not a blatantly obvious company name, in fact most people would associate the word more with the forward movement of institutions and society than car insurance. It could have been a lot worse.

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Re: A stadium by any other name...
Very similar to a thread started by Jay.
I don't care what they call it, in my mind it will always be the Jake. Jacobs brought the Indians from cellar dwellers to national page news.  He poured his hard earned money into the team and the teams infrastructure.  He never questioned his baseball people and never told the GM to keep payroll low so he could make a profit.  He is by all accounts the best owner in Cleveland sports franchises, so that is why to me it will always be Jacob's Field.

That said Progressive field isn't horrible.  My aunt worked for Progressive insurance until some drug addictive flipped out and killed her after work.  She was an awesome aunt and was kind enough to give this man and other maintenance people pizza for doing a job cleaning/maintaining her office and this is how he repaid her. GGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRRR

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by E5 on Jan 12, 2008 3:09 PM EST   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
I'm definitely being stubborn about the name change,  but I agree that Progressive Field isn't a horrible name and it could have been worse.  I didn't realize that Jacobs was the name of the owner's real estate firm, I figured the guy just liked seeing his name associated with the stadium.  If you think about it, Jacobs Field could have easily had a corporate name a lot earlier (and technically it did, just didn't sound like it).  Oh well.  

It's kind of funny that the name took on the personality of the stadium (too corny?) and became so closely associated with a lot of fans' memories of Cleveland baseball.  That's the sticking point for me, the whole "Jake" thing became ingrained in my memory and it's difficult to chalk it up to just a name at this point.  The name represents the stadium to me and the stadium represents a lot of great memories.  

Illogical?  Yeah, but I'm sure I'll get over it eventually.        

by Pronk33 on Jan 12, 2008 3:58 PM EST   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
This, too, shall pass.

We'll all get over it quicker than we think.

by nickjs21 on Jan 12, 2008 6:19 PM EST   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
I don't want to get over it.

Jacobs Field is synonymous with winning baseball. In the 90's everyone was at "The Jake". It was the place to be, and the name was the dawning of a new era of baseball. I can't even imagine not seeing Jacobs Field on the front of the stadium.

http://www.csuohio.edu/ce/assets/Cleveland_Pics/jacobs_field.jpg

by gahnki on Jan 13, 2008 12:22 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
The ballpark is synonymous with winning baseball.  It's still the same ballpark.  When you sit in the same seats you've been sitting in for 14 years, is the view going to look any different?  Are the aesthetics going to disappear?  Is the atmosphere going to vanish?  No.  It's the same ballpark, in the same location, with a different sign.  It's the same ballpark we witnessed all those great moments in.  

I loved The Jake, and I'll probably still call it that for a while.  But as long as that ballpark is still there, it's still the same place.  When demolition crews show up, that's when I'll be upset.

by nickjs21 on Jan 13, 2008 12:33 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
You know I just realized the picture you've supplied has only two people featured in the banners:  Milton Bradley and Eric Wedge.  Kind of funny if you ask me.

by nickjs21 on Jan 13, 2008 12:36 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
like he said, synonymous with winning
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a little stitious.

by jakesinger777 on Jan 13, 2008 7:00 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
As Ryan alludes to, the Indians have played in Jacobs Field for only 14 years of its 107-year history.

Unlike Jacobs, League Park (1920) and Cleveland Municipal Stadium (1948) were each home to a World Series Champion. Note that League Park was known as Dunn Field from 1916-1927 after owner Sunny Jim Dunn.  Although that was the name in 1920, it is little remembered today.

This link provides a detailed history regarding the long gestation of Municipal, from which one can draw interesting contrasts and parallels to today's era.  Note that the stadium was a by-product of the Progressive era.  The site was originally designated for a railroad station, which became unnecessary after one was privately built under Terminal Tower.

Interesting to ponder if the Indians had built their own bigger park in the 1920's would Cleveland have had a classic stadium, although Wrigley and Fenway were built well before then.

by palcal on Jan 12, 2008 7:05 PM EST   0 recs

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That link seems like an interesting read, I'll have to check it out when I get the chance.

by Pronk33 on Jan 13, 2008 12:46 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
The author of that article makes a number of mistakes.  The Stadium was built a little further NW of where the Railroad station was intended.  There was quite a bit of stuggle over Cleveland Union station.  The Stadium was not originally a part of the Group plan, and Progressive era comes a little earlier in the 20th century (~1903, when the Group Plan begins to take shape).  Still, it's an interesting read.
formerly 'tourist

by jhon on Jan 14, 2008 11:28 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Doesn't the fact that Progressive just had 341 layoffs, just before Christmas, make you a little sick to your stomach? How can they justify spending $3.6 million a year for the next 16 years for stadium naming rights when they are laying off people?

by Deaner on Jan 12, 2008 8:16 PM EST   0 recs

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So, your position is that a company, that just laid people off, should stop advertising?

by CaptainEasy on Jan 12, 2008 8:21 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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No, it makes me glad we have $3.6 million to use now. Is there a better way to increase visibility than by acquiring the naming rights to the most visited stadium and one of the most visible buildings in the city?
I swear, next year is it.

by fwembt on Jan 12, 2008 8:41 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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The layoffs themselves make me sick to my stomach, as Clevelanders have had plenty of trouble with layoffs in recent years.  But I'm not upset in the context of this deal--I'm sure that the advertising budget and personnel budget are separate.  It's probably not fair to assume that they should reduce ads to keep people employed--reduce ads too much and maybe more job losses result.

But back to baseball, I find that the only upsetting thing for me in transitioning from the quasi-corporate name I have warm feelings for to the slightly more noticeable corporate name is the piece of crap logo we have to suffer now.  (I challenge anyone to top that run-on sentence!)

Ten minutes with Photoshop and a picture of Jesus on a dinosaur would make a better logo.

by jds16 on Jan 13, 2008 12:33 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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My very good friend was just offered a job when he graduates by Progressive.  I know he brought that up in the interview when they asked if he had any questions (the layoffs, I mean).  He seemed very satisfied with their answer.  I'll have to ask him about it, because I've forgotten.

by nickjs21 on Jan 13, 2008 12:35 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
I feel I should comment, since I'm an employee of Progressive (and in IT) I witnessed the layoffs firsthand you mentioned above. A number of my friends were laid off (I was a lucky enough to still have a job when it was said and done). Keep in mind that was the first layoff of this size in almost twenty years, so it was a shock to entire company. Deaner, your question is valid and was addressed during a Q&A session:

Q) How much do we spend on advertising annually?
A) The amount we'll spend on the partnership in 2008 represents about 1 percent of what we spent on advertising in 2007 (we spent about 300 million in 2006).

Q)We recently had a reduction in force to save money. How can we reconcile spending this money on a sponsorship?
A) The only relationship between the two is that both actions are designed to help us grow our business. The auto insurance business, like many industries, is very price competitive. Following our reorganization in September in which we combined our Agency and Direct Businesses into one Personal Lines organization, we determined that there were some redundant activities in Personal Lines. In addition, we reviewed IT staffing levels and determined that we were overstaffed in IT. The decision to let go about one percent of our countrywide work force was driven by the need to reduce redundant activities and staff to more appropriate levels in IT. These changes will also allow us to operate more efficiently which can help us bring lower prices to more customers and grow our business.
We continuously invest in advertising and sponsorships in order to build awareness of Progressive and grow the business. While we are
very excited about our partnership with the Indians and the national awareness this can bring the company, the amount we'll spend on this
per year is a small percentage of our overall annual advertising spend. This sponsorship now becomes part of that yearly amount we'll
spend; it will not be incremental to that amount, and our expectations are that it will give us national exposure, help build awareness and help us grow faster.

Take that information for what it's worth...

I'm not a big fan of cooperate names on stadiums/parks, however, it seems to be everywhere else. If this money can be used to keep our home grown talent or sign a big free agent then I'm all for it. Like most of you, I think I'll still be referring to it as "the Jake".

Sorry for the lengthy post.

by vindicate2 on Jan 13, 2008 11:15 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
Not at all.  Thanks for the insight.

by nickjs21 on Jan 13, 2008 11:59 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
yeah, no need to apologize, this lends great insight.

by hans on Jan 13, 2008 4:24 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
Much of what vindicate2 writes is true throughout the industry.

I work for Nationwide in Columbus.  On one hand we're facing layoff announcements over the next month, while simultaneously committing to sponsoring some second-tier NASCAR circuit.  They are certainly compatible actions.  The insurance market is quite cyclical and the current market is very soft (lots of competition).  Trimming expenses/prices and boosting advertising are both good ways to fight for market share.

by CBusSteve on Jan 14, 2008 12:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
The layoff option is widely misunderstood in general. Folks think that layoffs occur only when companies are in distress. General house cleaning is implemented to address a number of issues. There are positions that have become redundant or some people have become too comfortable at a productivity level beneath their potential or managers discover that a previous hires arent a great fit for their assignment. Many people that receive a pink slip end up with postions that are a better fit elsewhere and actually improve their compensation. I admit that there is financial pain during the transition and I have experienced that more than once. The casual distrust of corporations that pervades our region dissuades employers from expanding here and hurts our families.

by elsandito on Jan 14, 2008 12:37 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
Well put.  As a financial planner, I look at it from another aspect.  The primary responsibility of a company is to its shareholders, not its employees.  The shareholders greatly outnumber those who have been laid off in the past year.  It hurts when you're the employee, or when you directly feel the effects of it, but that's the truth.

I'm sure that Progressive had planned for this potential move long ago, and it's not as if they got together in a meeting, asked how they could afford the naming rights, and one exec said "let's lay off some folks and then we can afford it!"

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Jan 18, 2008 11:26 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
a million times better than Quicken Loans, so yea...

by royalsreview on Jan 12, 2008 11:48 PM EST   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
this really looks like the best of possible outcomes to me. "Progressive" is, conveniently, an actual, positive word. it's kind of like if the Tribe played in Awesome Stadium or at Extremely Clever Field.

isn't 16 years a really long term, though? (i have no idea how long other parks' contracts are. but it's hilarious to me to think that the Padres might be playing at "PETCO Park" into the 2020s.)

anyway, won't this seem like an inordinately sweet deal for Progressive by the time the contract is up, or no?

by jeremy on Jan 13, 2008 5:32 AM EST   0 recs

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Personally I love the length of this deal. My main issue with corporate names in the past has been the frequency with which those names have changed....Houston, San Diego...I've given up keeping track of the names of those parks. At least over 16 years we'll have some stability with our name.

by supermarioelia on Jan 13, 2008 1:35 PM EST   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
Agreed. I just want the stadium to have some identity for a length of time. I'm sure I'll get over the "Jake" nostalgia eventually, but it will still be missed, and it's kind of annoying that our kids will grow up without it.
Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Jan 13, 2008 2:41 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
Many of the name changes are driven by mergers, acquisitions and bankruptcies, rather than the expiration of the contract.  So, there is no guarantee that the park will be named Progressive for 16 years.  Not that people expect Progressive to go away soon, but many of the names that have gone away did not look so vulnerable until AFTER they bought the naming rights (e.g., Enron, Pacific Bell, Adelphia, Bank One)

by palcal on Jan 13, 2008 10:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
From personal experience I can say that the Astros aren't the only ones burned by Enron.

by mkwng on Jan 18, 2008 11:39 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: A stadium by any other name...
So does the name change mean that Mike Huckabee voters will boycott the park?

I kid, I kid.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Jan 15, 2008 11:53 AM EST   0 recs

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