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An Interview with Terry Pluto. Steve Marantz, Sport Media Guide

The main thrust of the interview was about Pluto's  column following the Byrd HGH announcement, and Pluto's reflections on that column are very interesting:

We found out when [Byrd] had an arm injury he was using HGH. It was very hard for me to imagine. You never would have guessed - it shows how pervasive the stuff is. He's a guy I e-mail with and am somewhat friendly - he's like a guy from down the street or from your church or someone you work with. This came from a paper trail from a guy who was a dentist but who no longer is a dentist - not someone likely to be treating a pituitary. I want to believe Paul on the pituitary thing but I couldn't ignore that.

Byrd seemed the last guy to suspect of being on performance-enhancing drugs, if you're basing suspicion on physical attributes. Byrd probably has the slowest fastball of any right-hander in the majors, and has learned to get by with it. He shouldn't need that extra edge, right?

But Byrd didn't take the drugs to get an extra edge on the field; he took them while recovering from a serious arm injury. At that time, there was a possibility he might not make it back. He didn't know if his arm could physically handle the rigors of pitching in the majors again. That fear, Pluto says, is what probably drove Byrd to do what he normally wouldn't have done:

I wish Paul had done what Matt Lawton did when he got caught with the Yankees. He said he knew he was wrong but he was desperate to keep his career going and he did it. People appreciate that kind of honesty more than some of the other stories we've heard.

Beyond the headliner cases (Bonds, Clemens, Giambi, McGwire, etc) are a lot of marginal and minor-league players. It isn't just the successful players who want to take their game to the next level; it's the player on the cusp or a guy recovering from an injury. The lure of PEDs is there for every athlete, and will remain there as long as competitive sports exist. That doesn't mean we should pretend the problem doesn't exist, but at the same time, it shouldn't irreparably mar the game.

Guys get suspended a lot for steroids in the NFL - they do four games and come back and play and it's hardly mentioned. Some people don't understand what steroids are - others feel like they flunked a science class. It's hard enough raising kids and keeping a job - you're thinking about those things all the time. When you come to sports you don't want to go into that big closet of skeletons. You just want to watch the game. Most fans just want to talk about who should be traded or who should be coach. Sport is soap opera for males.

I'd like there to be some assurance that baseball has "solved" the PED problem, but at the same time, PEDs aren't going to destroy my love for the game. Just put a good testing program in place, act like you're committed to it, and let it go at that. The NFL has done that, and even as several of their better players have tested positive for steroids, the outcry over PEDs in that sport has been relatively mild.

Schumer: Syracuse Can Get Mets. Mark Weiner, Syracuse Post-Standard

This story is relevant to the Indians in that the Mets going to Syracuse could set off a chain of AAA affiliate changes after this season. Syracuse is currently Toronto's affiliate. Columbus' new downtown stadium will open for the 2009 season, and their contract with the Nationals also expires after this season. As does the contract between Cleveland and the Buffalo Bisons, which creates a tempting opportunity for the Indians. The current relationship with Buffalo is very good; the team draws well, and it's only a three-hour drive to Cleveland. But moving the affiliation to Columbus would make a lot of sense; the drive is a bit shorter, Columbus is a split Indians/Reds town, and they'd be opening up a new stadium.  

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Steroids, steroids, blah, blah, blah . . . Indians minor leaguers in Columbus! That would be awesome.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Jan 23, 2008 1:43 AM EST   0 recs

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And more games/coverage on STO!

by Otto on Jan 23, 2008 10:01 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Yeah, I'm tired of steroids as well. But Pluto's take is more of a rebuke to the moralizing going on about the controversy than the controversy itself.

I think Buffalo is a great situation for the Indians, but the Columbus situation will at least make the Indians think about switching. If they don't switch now, they're staying in Buffalo for the long term.

by Ryan on Jan 23, 2008 10:12 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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C-BUS desperately needs the Tribe to open Huntington Park in 2009, if only for my own personal gratification.

I hated having the Yankees affiliation, don't mind the Nats so much, but putting the Indians AAA team here would be sweet.

by emd2k3 on Jan 23, 2008 11:14 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Does anyone know what kind of effect the Bisons have on Buffalo's fandom?  Anyone from Buffalo have any anecdotes they can provide?  I'm legitimately curious as to what the level of support is.

by Pronktastic on Jan 23, 2008 11:27 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I'd be overjoyed if the Triple A team moved to Columbus, because then they'd be in Indianapolis more often and I'd be more likely to actually get to see the team once or twice a season.
Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on Jan 23, 2008 11:47 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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The one family of baseball fans I know from Buffalo are Yankee fans.  Seems logical enough -- especially if you're not the kind of fan who goes to more than 1 or 2 minor league games a year.

I'm excited about the talk of a shuffling of AAA teams.  I'm in Richmond where we just lost the Braves AAA team to suburban Atlanta.  When I saw that Columbus was building a new stadium, I figured there would be no chance for the Nationals to relocate their AAA team to Richmond.  So, AAA Mets to Syracuse, AAA Indians, to Columbus, AAA Nats to Richmond sounds good to me.

by harrison on Jan 23, 2008 3:07 PM EST   0 recs

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There are a couple issues with that, though, assuming the pieces of your scenario are:

Mets to Syracuse
Indians to Columbus
Blue Jays to Buffalo
Nationals to Richmond (which currently has no franchise)

(1) The New Orleans franchise would have to move to Richmond, and the reason the Richmond Braves moved is because the stadium situation in Richmond is pretty bad. Since the Braves own the Richmond Braves, that move was pretty easy.

(2) If New Orleans moved, then either an IL team would have to change to the PCL or another PCL team would have to change to the IL.

by Ryan on Jan 23, 2008 3:20 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Hey-

Sure, the Diamond is an aging ballpark, but there are a couple of things to consider here--

  1.  The city/counties should be much more amenable to building a ballpark in the wake of the Braves departure.

  2.  Mayor Wilder should be out after this term (his current term has been a disaster).  Hopefully, a new administration will be able to get a deal done w/r/t a stadium.  At the very least, they'll be able to enunciate a coherent plan for the future of minor league baseball in Richmond.

  3.  Strategically, the Nationals have a lot to gain by placing their team in Richmond from a marketing standpoint.  At present, this city is full of Braves and Oriels fans with a few Nationals fans mixed in.  The Oriels are on t.v. more frequently than the Nationals.  Putting the Nationals AAA affiliate here would help to grow this as a media market and put the Nationals in a better position for the next television contract.    It would also simultaneously stick it to Angelos and the Oriels.

The bigger question is whether or not the Mets leave NO and, if they do, where they end up going.  The saints are a nice story and all, but I just don't see long-term viability for NO as a sports market -- particularly 100 or so minor league games vs. 8 NFL games.

by harrison on Jan 25, 2008 10:01 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I would go to an absurd amount of Clippers games during the summer if they became an Indians farm club. I got to see Adam Miller pitch against them visiting last year...imagine if stuff like that happened all the time!

by Voltaire on Jan 23, 2008 3:37 PM EST   0 recs

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But Byrd didn't take the drugs to get an extra edge on the field; he took them while recovering from a serious arm injury.

Byrd first bought HGH in 2002, his best season in the ML. He didn't suffer the arm injury until 2003.

If you look at the splits for 2002, he had similar numbers for the 1st half and 2nd half. So I doubt he had arm problems in 2002.

My guess is that he was feeling tired mid way thru 2002 because his number of innings was much lower in 2000 and 2001. So he looked for artificial help.

But by taking HGH and increasing his IP by 125, which he might not have done without them, did he cause the damage to his arm?

Pluto is correct. Byrd should have confessed like Lawton.

by ronh on Jan 28, 2008 10:44 AM EST   0 recs

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