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Our buddy, the Diatriber, and Tony Lastoria host a podcast featuring Michael Brantley and his agent, Josh Kusnick. It's very long, but they do a nice job interviewing and then also taking on-air calls.

over 3 years ago Rogerdorn_tiny Roger Dorn 22 comments 0 recs  | 

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Can something 90 minutes long really be called a podcast?

by afh4 on Oct 11, 2008 12:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I regularly listen to SGU, which is 1.5 hours weekly on average.

by Voltaire on Oct 11, 2008 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what SGU is.

by afh4 on Oct 11, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Steer clear of their Top 20 Logical Fallacies. That’s a tad too much Latin for this bunch. Otherwise, the site’s pretty interesting. Now I need to find an hour and a half to devote to their podcast.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Oct 13, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Number 16 is familiar.

by odradek on Oct 13, 2008 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I suspect one wouldn’t have too look too hard to find all 20 on this site (and would have an easier time on sites where the commenters are a bit less, um, erudite).

by FredOx on Oct 13, 2008 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

The old joke: First night in prison, inmate hears people in the block stand up & shout: “Number 33,” followed by robust laughter. Another inmate stands up and yells: “Number 26,” after which everyone laughs. Inmate asks his cellmate what’s going on. “After you’ve been in here a while, you’ve heard all the jokes. So now we just assign numbers to em.” “Mind if I try?” asks the new inmate. “No,” says his cellmate, “go ahead.” New inmate grabs the bars and yells out: “Number 19.” Silence. “What gives?” he asks his cellmate. “It’s how you tell it.”

by odradek on Oct 13, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

A lot of things that get called “straw men” here, in fact, would be more appropriately characterized as attempts at reductio ad absurdum, or slippery slope arguments. The difference being that a straw man is attributing a position to someone that they don’t advocate, and a reductio is saying “look what follows if you take that position”. A slippery slope argument is essentially a faulty reductio ad absurdum (which itself isn’t a fallacy at all — it’s odd that they include it on their list).

That site also misrepresents the fallacy of “begging the question”. Begging the question isn’t equivalent to an unstated major premise — it’s really a form of circular reasoning, where you essentially imply your conclusion in your premise. There are lots of unstated premises that don’t amount to begging the question.

They left out one of my favorites (though it’s a variation on one they listed): the ad mominem argument: “You’ll find that my opponent’s position is untenable because his mom is promiscuous”

by Logodaedalus on Oct 13, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, this place was already pretty well dorked out before you even got here.

by Jay on Oct 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dorkitude is an infinite resource.

by FredOx on Oct 14, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the canonically accepted term is “dorkulence”

by Logodaedalus on Oct 14, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is why I don’t suppress it nearly as much as I might in another context…

Just trying to do my part in the difficult task of actually increasing the dorkiness per capita in a pretty well saturated environment…

by Logodaedalus on Oct 14, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve actually never studied their list before. You’d love the podcast – they frequently play “name that fallacy” and debate exactly why something stupid is so. It’s great.

by Voltaire on Oct 15, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I should clearly check out that podcast sometime.

Are you by any chance a reader of the blog One Good Move? He has lots of links to stuff like that, having to do with logic and “rationality” and the like. Although lately it’s been more politics and less philosophy. But there’s still some.

Am I allowed to point specific individuals to blogs that have a political agenda? Don’t go there if you’re worried about…that.

by Logodaedalus on Oct 15, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

either way, thanks for the link

by kwoog on Oct 15, 2008 5:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

No…I wanted to end it at about the 45 minute mark and was shot down.
Little rough on the opening as we had some technical difficulties that had me doing 4-5 things, not including doing the intro. But I thought that Brantley was very well-spoken and insightful and his agent was quite a character.
Thanks for the link, Roger.

by The DiaTriber on Oct 11, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Brantley already sounds like a major leaguer. That agent, as we’ve observed before, is definitely a character. Very bizarre when his other clients started calling in.

by afh4 on Oct 11, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you guys did a swell job.

Say, how’s your sports media ascent been treating you, Paul?

by fleerdon on Oct 12, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ha…I’ll let you know when it starts.

by The DiaTriber on Oct 12, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the “Feat.”, Bob. Very VH1.

by fleerdon on Oct 13, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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