Indians Interested In Hudson

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The article also mentions the Yankees might be interested in Hudson. If they signed him they could look to trade Cano for a centerfielder. Could the Indians get Cano for a package of Gutz and other guys? If so, what would it take?

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 21, 2008 3:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Is Cano really worth that much more than Gutierrez? Cano isn’t cheap.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 21, 2008 3:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cano will be the Jason Bay of 2009.

by world dictator on Nov 21, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I could see that.

by Jay on Nov 21, 2008 11:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure we’d give up what they want. I’m not opposed to sending Laffey for Cano.

by mjschaefer on Nov 21, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Tempting, but I think Laffey is the “depth starter” most likely to contribute next year. I also think the Yankees will want more. Probably Gutz and Laffey. Not worth it of course, given cano’s down year.

by world dictator on Nov 22, 2008 12:43 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Yankees won’t have any interest in Laffey.

Especially not for Cano.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 24, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Good I don’t want that Yankee trash anyways

by hans on Nov 25, 2008 2:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I think Shapiro is prepared to offer more in years than he wants to get this done, it is probably our only chance.

by Roger Dorn on Nov 21, 2008 3:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think the Indians go the opposite route and pay a premium salary for a shorter deal.

by xrickx on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Indians will try but Hudson will go for contract length. He is 32 after all.

by world dictator on Nov 21, 2008 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That’s not that old. It’s not too old to expect a further fat deal at age 35 or even 36.

RFTS.

by Jay on Nov 22, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

And he’s not 32. He turns 31 next month. Born latest in the same year as Brian Roberts, Mark Ellis and Rafael Furcal.

by mcrose on Nov 22, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Of those guys, I think the only one who might have a decent amount of value left in five years is Furcal.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 24, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This just doesn’t seem like a signing the Indians would make. It’s almost as if it would make to much sense for it to happen. I would love for it to take place, I just have my doubts.

by Tribe_Hippie on Nov 21, 2008 4:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

It’s not a signing the Indians will make at 5/50. Hudson’s perception of his own value will have to come down substantially for him to be in the Indians’ price range.

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by woodsmeister on Nov 21, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not that substantially.

by Jay on Nov 22, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

How much do you think the Indians would be likely to pay. I’m guessing that it would have to be a 3-year contract – I doubt Shapiro goes 5 years on an infielder over 30. Would the Indians go 3/30? 3/27? 3/24?

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Nov 24, 2008 2:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I guess I’d parse it a little differently.

The Indians have a general sense of what the market will be for Hudson. They also know their own internal evaluation of the player and his health situation. So the first question is, will they even seriously consider Hudson? If they will, that means that they feel he’s above some certain acceptable-risk threshold. If they won’t, then they won’t bid on him at all.

So if he’s above that threshold, then I could see them going 3/30 on him. I think as a position player, he’s of comparable value to Westbrook, or not far from it.

by Jay on Nov 26, 2008 12:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m just not sure 3 years would be considered a serious offer unless the $$ per year was greater. Furcal will get at least 4 years and will definitely influence Hudson’s deal.

And on a somewhat related note, Jhonny’s been playing 3B exclusively so far this winter. I believe he’s done this before, so its not a huge brow raiser, but still…

by mcrose on Nov 26, 2008 2:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t know what Furcal will get, although it seems like 95% of the surprises come on the high side when it comes to free agents. Furcal missed 80% of the season this past season and was occasionally injured and generally terrible the year before. Where does a longer deal at a higher salary enter into that picture, exactly? I’m not taking for granted that he can get that four-year deal with an eight-figure salary.

by Jay on Nov 27, 2008 1:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m looking at your tags and…well ill let Nick comment

Also, I said it before and I’ll say it again, I’d rather have Furcal than Hudson. (Cheaper annual salary, fewer years, fewer question marks…arguably the better player and defender too)

by world dictator on Nov 21, 2008 8:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Not even a zubaz pants tag. Tsk.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 21, 2008 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Funny thing — when I first saw the headline here, I thought it referred to Tim Hudson. For a moment, I thought the plan was to stockpile Tommy John guys for 2010.

by peter m on Nov 22, 2008 12:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

rec because i was about to post the same thing

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Nov 22, 2008 12:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I thought it was a reference to Kate Hudson.

by FredOx on Nov 22, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Her skills have seriously declined. Unsustainably high BABIP during the “Almost Famous” filming season.

by Pronktastic on Nov 22, 2008 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

How to Lose a guy in 10 days and Fools Gold were entertaining for their genre.

by world dictator on Nov 22, 2008 2:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You may be confusing liking Kate Hudson with liking Matthew McConaughey

by Pronktastic on Nov 22, 2008 2:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

…

by fleerdon on Nov 22, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think I would have been better off just using the ellipsis as a response.

by Pronktastic on Nov 22, 2008 5:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

by fwembt on Nov 22, 2008 11:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

From what I’ve read, that high BABIP was achieved mostly in the editing stage.

Strangely, I too first thought of Tim Hudson.

by Jay on Nov 22, 2008 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

well add me to the growing legion that initially thought of Tim Hudson….I wonder what that says about us as Cleveland Indians fans….

by hans on Nov 23, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Um, that we know we really need more starting pitching?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Nov 23, 2008 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that we love us some KMTS?

For the record though, I knew it was Orlando.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Nov 24, 2008 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

She is adorable sexy sometimes.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 22, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

In her prime, her mom was hotter.

by piersall on Nov 23, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Nov 23, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

While were off topic, I just want to say that the Browns cost me $70 today because they couldn’t beat the Texans.

FIRE SAVAGE!

by world dictator on Nov 23, 2008 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s not Savage’s fault.

FIRE ROMEO!!!

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 23, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If we’re going to go off-topic I would very much prefer we stick to a discussion of adorable and sexy celebrities rather than how frustrating the Browns are.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 23, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

by fwembt on Nov 23, 2008 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But also, beer is good.

Though that’s not even really off topic here….

by Logodaedalus on Nov 23, 2008 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Neither Crennel nor Savage are adorable or sexy.

Feel better?

by world dictator on Nov 23, 2008 11:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Nov 24, 2008 10:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

would Aaron Hill be an option?

I haven’t read anything about him, so this is just pure speculation on my part, but it seems like the price is low after his injury. That also means that the Blue Jays may not want to trade him and he obviously only had 1 good season. However, he could be worth taking a risk on.

by JP_Frost on Nov 23, 2008 11:35 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

I wonder what the Blue Jays hope to accomplish this year. Not sure if it matters per se in regards to acquiring Hill, but they seem to be in between pushing for contending and not really being a factor yet in that division.

by hans on Nov 23, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

… well, if they sign Manny …

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Nov 24, 2008 11:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

All indications are that the Jays are going to try to win in 09. Aaron Hill will almost certainly not be traded. And if he was, he’d probably command a lot more in value than we’d be willing to surrender. And the Jays probably wouldn’t want prospects, either.

Hill is very, very good.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 24, 2008 1:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If the Indians are interested in Hudson, they must feel confident about moving Peralta to 3B. This is not bad if you ask me. Peralta has to go there sooner or later, so why not make it sooner. I’ve heard doubts about Peralta playing 3B, but if he can play SS (below average, but still it is SS), my guess he can handle 3B no problem.

by oxforddave on Nov 24, 2008 9:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs