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that was my response

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Nov 4, 2008 10:33 AM EST reply actions  

Maybe when they say, “in the picture”, they mean we are the team that’s walking past sort of awkwardly in the background

by APV on Nov 4, 2008 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

You know those guys in news broadcasts who stand behind the reporter and jump around and make faces? That’s us.

DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.

by zempf on Nov 4, 2008 11:36 AM EST up reply actions  

We’re a That Guy.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 4, 2008 12:05 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Given the state of the Indians’ bullpen last year, I think Fuentes’ agent would not be doing his job if he didn’t at least invite Shapiro over to kick the tires and take a test drive, and maybe establish a baseline offer that he can take back to the Mets.

by woodsmeister on Nov 4, 2008 11:02 AM EST reply actions  

Fuentes would definitely by an upgrade for the tribe. I’d be happy to get him.

by oxforddave on Nov 4, 2008 11:10 AM EST reply actions  

Am I the only one who doesn’t want to spend $12 million on a closer?

by world dictator on Nov 4, 2008 11:46 AM EST reply actions  

i’m pretty positive shapiro doesn’t. hence the yawn.

by Brick. on Nov 4, 2008 11:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m serious, one of Meloan/Miller is going to be awesome as the closer. I really think our bullpen will be awesome next year without any huge acquisition.

Awesome. Have I mentioned awesome?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 4, 2008 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

I really think there’s a third “Rafael” out there somewhere to solidify the bullpen. There’s strength in numbers. Plus we can confuse the other team.

by xrickx on Nov 4, 2008 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Jeff Stevens could be that guy, and who knows, maybe Sipp will see some time in the majors this year

by JP_Frost on Nov 4, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions  

+1 – I think Stevens and Sipp could both be surprises and important pieces to the 2009 bullpen, much like Perez and Lewis were to the 2007 bullpen.

Just my 2 cents.

The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.

by indiansfan on Nov 6, 2008 11:42 PM EST up reply actions  

He’d probably be a scrappy shortstop.

Federer = Pujols

by Peter Bendix on Nov 4, 2008 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

This made me laugh. Thank you.

by woodsmeister on Nov 4, 2008 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Talk about a late inning weapon…

by xrickx on Nov 4, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Cheater. That’s Raphael with a “ph”.

by FredOx on Nov 5, 2008 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

He’d be ambidextrous

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 4, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well it will be an odd numbered year, right?

by fivekmd on Nov 4, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder if Shapiro himself leaks our faux-interest in these high profile Free Agents, or if he delegates it to his secretary.

by Toxicadam on Nov 4, 2008 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

Isn’t it possible Joshua Fields will be available in the draft again in June if the M’s fail to sign him?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 4, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

just found this tidbit on mlb trade rumors:

Joel Sherman says the Mets also want to speak to the A’s about Huston Street. However, his sources say the A’s feel they match up better with the Indians, Rockies, and Brewers (all interested parties).

I’d much rather trade for Street than sign Fuentes. Obviously it depends on Beane’s asking price, but atleast Street is a young closer who’ll be under control. Fuentes is pretty good, but the money he’s asking for is ridiculous.

by JP_Frost on Nov 4, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions  

You did not find this on MLB Trade Rumors. You found this from Joel Sherman and the New York Post, linked from MLBTR.

This is not difficult.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 4, 2008 4:12 PM EST up reply actions  

JP_Frost did nothing wrong.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 4, 2008 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

wow, I just quoted part of an update from MLBTR. The part itself says where the information came from. What’s the problem?

by JP_Frost on Nov 4, 2008 6:04 PM EST up reply actions  

There’s just no reason to cite them when you can simply cite the actual source of the report.

Should I go onto another site now and report that JP_Frost has reported that MLBTR has reported that the NY Post has reported something? Of course not. The NY Post has reported something, the rest of us are just repeating it.

by Jay on Nov 4, 2008 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

well, without turning this into a big issue, I didn’t see a link to the actual article. So I figured it maybe came from a chat or whatever. Looking back, the article was linked in the part above Huston Street.

I’ll try to be more careful next time.

by JP_Frost on Nov 4, 2008 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn’t mean to sound harsh if I did.

But look, here’s an example. I found this story on Rotoworld, but I’m going to link to the original NY Post article and say that the Rays seem open to trading Andy Sonnanstine or Edwin Jackson.

In a related story, I’d like to trade for Sonnanstine or Jackson.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 5, 2008 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

Ick, not Jackson.

I’d loooove to get Sonnanstine though.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 5, 2008 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Obviously they don’t represent the same piece, and I’m not presenting them as interchangeable. There’s still talent there with Jackson in my opinion and he would obviously cost considerably less.

That being said I like Sonnanstine a lot. BenFran+?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 5, 2008 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think I’d want Jackson out there every fifth day for a team that hopes to compete in 2009. I don’t deny his potential, but he’s unlikely to be even somewhat-useful in 09, I think.

Unfortunately, the Rays are too smart to accept BenFran, I imagine. They need the same things we do: a middle-of-the-order masher, and a reliever or two.

by Peter Bendix on Nov 5, 2008 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Positionally they need a right fielder. That’s where I came from.

If the asking price is right I would put Jackson in the bullpen. But I guess so could they.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 5, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Not to nit pick but he did find it on MLB Trade Rumors, that just wasn’t the original source.

by world dictator on Nov 5, 2008 12:43 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand that, and just to be clear, this is a preference that goes back well before the whole Laffey-is-not-getting-trade controversy. MLB Trade Rumors does not deserve credit for merely repeating a story. In all cases, both the credit and the link should go to the original reportage of a story. The most a link aggregator deserves is a hat-tip in parentheses — if that.

by Jay on Nov 5, 2008 3:00 AM EST up reply actions  

MLBTR did…oh never mind. Instead, I bring you the world’s highest hat tip, from 1995:

by FredOx on Nov 5, 2008 9:16 AM EST up reply actions   2 recs

rotoworld on closers situation

Huston Street – OAK

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Huston Street “drew strong interest from the Indians this past season and is still on their radar.”
The newspaper reports that the Indians “have ruled out nothing in their pursuit of a closer,” and are in the mix for Street, Trevor Hoffman, Francisco Rodriguez, Kerry Wood and Brian Fuentes, among others. “At this point we haven’t determined if anyone is out of our price range,” general manager Mark Shapiro said. “Until it goes there, I won’t assume anything. That would be a mistake. You never know what can happen in this setting.”
Source: Cleveland Plain Dealer

by Asfan4ever723 on Nov 5, 2008 11:18 AM EST reply actions  

Epic facepalm.

You mean to link the Plain Dealer here.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 5, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Ha… I feel your pain on this one.

by hans on Nov 5, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

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