Uhh...Cano?

If you look at the second page of that article, you'll see a very brief mention of the Yankees considering signing Orlando Hudson and trading Robinson Cano. They are also, apparently, considering signing Hudson to play CF.

Not even the Yankees are this stupid, right?

Cano's contract goes 9, 10, 14 option (2 buyout), 15 option (2 buyout).

Both options are club, obviously. I'd do Shoppach plus a prospect for Cano. The Yankees don't have a young catcher do they?

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can’t see Cano as a Wedge guy.

by ASP on Nov 5, 2008 11:28 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

eh. i’m sure the asking price is asdrubal. the asking price is always asdrubal.

by Brick. on Nov 5, 2008 11:41 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

That contract isn’t outrageous, but it’s pretty meh. I think he’d be a great buy-low pickup, but only if we actually get to buy low.

by Jay on Nov 5, 2008 11:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

How about Adam Miller?

by afh4 on Nov 5, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Trevor Crowe. Gammons says he is Ty Cobb.

Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.

by gte619n on Nov 5, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You’re joking right?

by world dictator on Nov 5, 2008 2:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I have no idea who would even think this was a joke, the Indians or the Yankees.

by afh4 on Nov 5, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cano is low and Shoppach’s stock is soaring. Forget the “plus a prospect” and I’d do it.

by LeCavs Matt on Nov 5, 2008 11:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, Cano should be bought at a low price or not at all.

by hans on Nov 6, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cano and Kennedy for Shoppach and Sowers

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Nov 5, 2008 12:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

plus a missing question mark

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Nov 5, 2008 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I could live with

Cano for Shoppach + Dellucci +/- a prospect on either side

That would make Cano more palatable cost wise. More of a “eh, ok” contract, as opposed to Jay’s “meh”.

by KevinV on Nov 5, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

oh man. can we end dumping dellucci into every deal we talk about right here.

by Brick. on Nov 5, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We’ll trade you Dellucci and his contract for negative one million dollars.

by Logodaedalus on Nov 5, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d do Cano + minor prospect for Shoppach, Dellucci, and Gutz.

The $4 mil for one year is nothing to the Yankeees. Gutz is their starting CF, Shoppach can start at Catcher, Posada DH/1B depending on if they sign Tex.

If the Yankees sign Hudson they’d have a damn good defense up the middle. Its almost too good of a package for the Yanks for my taste.

by world dictator on Nov 5, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I would want a little more that If we are including Gutz.

by KevinV on Nov 5, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Of course it depends on who the prospect we get from the Yankees is, but let’s not kid ourselves into thinking Gutz is the next coming, stellar defense and all.

by world dictator on Nov 5, 2008 5:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They badly need a center fielder, and he is a probable Gold Glover.

by Jay on Nov 5, 2008 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But so is Nate McClouth.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 5, 2008 10:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Nate McClouth is as much of a Gold Glover as Derek Jeter is.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Nov 6, 2008 10:56 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Precisely.

Or Michael Young.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 6, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This may sound weird, but do you think Gutz will ever hit well enough to win a GG?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 5, 2008 11:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not weird at all.

The answer is “no.” To the extent he ever hits better, it won’t be for a significantly high average, and he won’t hit 25 home runs. He may hit for a decent average with 20 home runs, but that won’t get him noticed.

by Jay on Nov 6, 2008 6:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

You are insane giving up both Shoppach and Gutierrez. It’s not clear that Cano is worth Gootz straight-up.

by Jay on Nov 5, 2008 6:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Cano is a cipher. In 2007, he was among the best hitting and best fielding second basemen. In 2008, among the worst fielding, and he hit poorly, too, especially in the first half.

Also, I don’t know what this is worth: Neither Cano’s nor Josh Barfield’s B-Ref pages are sponsored. To be Barfield’s sponsor costs 10 bucks. To be Cano’s costs 65.

by TheDanimal on Nov 6, 2008 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Since two silly, non-Indians related fanposts seems like too many for one day:

Nick Swisher is reportedly on the block and the White Sox want speed in return. Julio Lugo and Luis Castillo are mentioned.

We can’t find something as valuable as Julio Lugo or Luis Castillo?

by afh4 on Nov 5, 2008 2:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I don’t see the White Sox trading him to us even if we have a better offer to them

by Roger Dorn on Nov 5, 2008 2:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Swish is getting paid:

5.3, 6.75, 9 and 10.25 (2 mil buyout) with that last one being a club option.

I’d do Brantley for Swisher straight up, I think.

by afh4 on Nov 5, 2008 2:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Think I would, too.

by Voltaire on Nov 5, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Threed

by NickFantana on Nov 5, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So what, the boat on Swisher is returning to the dock? I refuse to fire up Paint.

by FredOx on Nov 6, 2008 9:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d be surprised if Kenny traded Swisher for anything that couldn’t help his team right now.

by ClarkM on Nov 6, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

eh. i’m sure the asking price is asdrubal. the asking price is always asdrubal.

by Brick. on Nov 5, 2008 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

chicken. butt.

by Voltaire on Nov 5, 2008 2:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Asking for Asdrubal is the nice way of telling the Indians “no.”

by fleerdon on Nov 5, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

I’ve always wondered if the Indians asked for Asdrubal from the Mariners in exchange for Eduardo Perez, or if the Mariners offered Asdrubal.

by xrickx on Nov 5, 2008 9:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Jedi mind trick.

by Jay on Nov 5, 2008 10:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Straw man

by fwembt on Nov 5, 2008 11:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sunk cost

by mrich on Nov 6, 2008 10:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Exception that proves the rule.

by Jay on Nov 6, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

sic hoc ergo propter hoc

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 6, 2008 6:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

cazzi fazone.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 6, 2008 7:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

shutupa uface

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Nov 6, 2008 7:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also!

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Nov 7, 2008 1:20 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

QED, bitches.

Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.

by gte619n on Nov 7, 2008 9:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Get Cano. Why are we so high on Asdrubal?

by mjschaefer on Nov 5, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Well the whole point of getting a 2B would be moving Jhonny to 3rd and Asdrubal to SS. So that kind of defeats the purpose.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Nov 5, 2008 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I understand that reasoning, but I meant more in the sense that not every deal involving a second baseman, like the rumor about Haren and how Cabrera was the hold up. Again its probably a rumor and such.

by mjschaefer on Nov 5, 2008 4:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

seriously?

by Brick. on Nov 5, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Brad Penny is now a free agent. Do I even have to say what type of signing this would be?

by ClarkM on Nov 5, 2008 8:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

A bad one. He walks too many guys, has pitched (with great inconsistency) in the NL for many years, and hasn’t been the innings-eater the Indians need. Next pitcher?

by peter m on Nov 5, 2008 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Prior to his disastrous, injury riddled 2008 campaign, Penny had three pretty good seasons.

In 2005, he had 67 PRC. His RA 4.00. He pitched 175.3 Innings. His BB rate 2.1.
In 2006, 78 PRC, an RA of 4.48 over 189 innings. BB rate 2.6.
In 2007, 108 PRC, an RA 3.25 over 208 innings. BB rate 3.3.

Of course all this was done in the NL, where his home park was Dodger Stadium.

There are some major question marks with Penny, and would only consider him if better options didn’t work out, and also wouldn’t go more than one year on him.

by ClarkM on Nov 5, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I guess I was overly negative. But, I don’t like the walk rate (especially the trend) and I’m more than a little worried that his numbers are NL inflated and Dodger Stadium inflated. If he’s cheap, he might be worth taking a chance, but I agree that he shouldn’t be our first option.

by peter m on Nov 5, 2008 10:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, he had a shoulder injury. Not that they are comparable pitchers, but at least Millwood’s injury was an elbow thing. Rebounding from shoulder trouble is that much more difficult. If he was healthy he’d be a nice target for Cleveland, but he’d also probably be resigning with the Dodgers.

by xrickx on Nov 5, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs