O/T: Christmas Ale has arrived! Christmas Ale has arrived!
As the calender turned to November, the elves at the great lakes brewery released their stock of Christmas Ale upon Cleveland and parts surrounding. Heed this warning though, the days of being able to down 5 Christmas Ales and successfully fly and land the Goodyear Blimp down to Akron, complete simple math problems (i.e. figuring the tip on your bar tab), or remembering where you parked your F'n truck are gone. That was months ago after a tolerance had been built up. Take it easy in the first few weeks, if you wish to avoid unfortunate outcomes such as nocturnal enuresis, waking up with work suit from previous day, or gout. But rejoice! as soon the winter months will become a blur and Cleveland Indians baseball will usher in the spring in what will seem like only days from now...
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It’s retailing at about $11 a sixer this year. I paid $10.99 at the local Dave’s Supermarket which is literally next door to the brewery. Rumor has it that some places are charging $12 and up a six. I guess that’s what you get when demand is high.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 8, 2008 11:11 AM EST reply actions
I have a freind who works for a craft beer distributor out of Brooklyn, and bringing Great Lakes to NYC has been pretty much been his white whale for the past couple years. From what I understand, Great Lakes Brewery is pretty much at full production and has had trouble filling out local orders and distributing across state lines at the same time. You can get Great Lakes in Chicago, right? I’d love to know where else the LGT nation can get their mitts on our local pride that is GLB. To expand production, the brewery would have to expand and brew off-site somewhere. So far, for whatever reason (quality control?) they have yet to do so despite markets like New York City clamoring for the beer.
A personal example of Great lakes demand outpacing production: This time last year, my local supermarket (as mentioned above) ran out of Xmas Ale. The beer coolers in the store are separated from the loading dock of GLB by a wall and a two lane road—you don’t get any closer to the source. When the store reorders Great Lakes, it’s delivered the entire distance by a dolly. However from mid-Decemeber-ish to the end of the Christmas Ale season, the store didn’t have it in stock because GLB had finished their run and had no more to distribute. Bars and beer stores bought extra in advance (as I suspect they did this year) to ensure they didn’t run out. I imagine that the brewery made extra batches this year.
I think if Great Lakes does expand, they’ll be extremely profitable in the long run, but it seems like they are into keeping the integrity of the beer into account. On one hand, out of Cleveland pride, I want St. Louis to know the full glory of Great Lakes, but I also understand whatever reservations they may have about turning into something like Sam Adam’s.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 8, 2008 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
They’ve got it in Pittsburgh too.
Here’s a list of where they distribute: http://www.greatlakesbrewing.com/distributionInfo.php
I’d kill to get it in DC. Love to talk to your friend as well — always been interested in working at a brewery.
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I used to get it at the world’s greatest store, Liquor Barn, in Louisville. Now that we’re back in Virginia, it’s nowhere to be found. Boo.
That’s one of like 4 places I’ve been in Louisville. I wonder what that says…
by Logodaedalus on Nov 10, 2008 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Didn’t Great Lakes just annex the wine bar that was right next to them? Don’t know if they’re going to use the space for the brewery or to expand the restaurant though.
I read in Scene or Free Times last year that some local bars that have been long-time Great Lakes customers couldn’t even get their hands on any Christmas Ale. You’d have to think that Great Lakes is going to do all they can to boost production this year…
There was an issue with supply last year. They only order X amount of ingredients—for freshness’ sake, I suppose?—and demand skyrocketed last year.
I would assume that’s rectified, but there’s still a little bit of a rush when it comes out.
Oh, and the Free Times and Scene are the same thing now anyway, aren’t they?
Steel Nick
I know the majority of the space from the old wine bar is going to be used as a serving area/private room.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 10, 2008 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
I’m currently enjoying my first of the season along with some buffalo chicken-style mac ‘n’ cheese as I await Ignatius/Glenville to start up.
Saturday night at home is alright with me.
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I’m sorry, but buffalo style mac and cheese sounds like one of the greatest things ever invented. Recipe?
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1 lb elbow mac
2 boneless, skinless chicken breasts
6 tablespoons butter (or healthier alternative butter-like spread)
1/2 cup all-purpose flour
4 cups milk, warm
3 cups shredded cheese (1 cup each of sharp cheddar, mild cheddar, new york white sharp cheddar)
1/2 grated parmesan cheese
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon red pepper
dash of Worcestershire sauce
dash of Frank’s Red Hot sauce
3 tablespoons Louisiana Wickedly Wild Buffalo Wing sauce
(Sidenote: you can use any cheese you like; i used sharp cheddar, monterey jack, and pepper jack last night. But the more cheddar, the more it resembles buffalo chicken dip. Also, I use the blocks of cheese, and instead of shredding, I cut into thin rectangles… much easier than shredding the entire block. However, you could always buy the shredded cheese packages themselves, although i don’t think new york white cheddar comes shredded in the major brand names).
Recipe:
Cook chicken as you like (i prefer to bake at 400 degrees for 25-30 minutes, depending on thickness. Also it helps to let the chicken cool and refrigerate for 15 minutes, as it makes it easier to dice without the chicken shredding too much. Or you could bake it the previous night and refrigerate over night… whatever gets it done). Toss chicken in a couple shakes of the Louisiana wing sauce (not from the 3 tablespoons) and the Frank’s Red Hot sauce until each little piece is coated.
Boil pasta as directed. Remove from pot into colander to drain, cool.
Preheat the oven to 350 degrees now.
In a large saucepan (or, i use the same pot used for pasta), melt the butter over medium heat. Once melted, stir in the flour until mixed (it’ll congeal into some chunks). Next, whisk in the warm milk constantly until mixed with the flour/butter, and then bring to a boil. Toss in the salt, black pepper, and red pepper, mix. Once the milk has come to a boil, dump in the 3 cups of cheese. Stir until completely melted. Finally, add the 3 teaspoons of Louisiana buffalo wing sauce to the mix.
Dump the pasta in a glass casserole dish (3 qt, i i think) and mix in the diced, coated chicken until separated well. SLOWLY, pour in the cheese sauce so it does not spill over the sides (learned from experience). Mix very well until the cheese sauce has covered all the noodles. It won’t just seep in to the bottom. Finally, shake the parmesan cheese over the top of it all.
Bake for 30-35 minutes at 350 degrees. Remove, and let stand for 5-10 minutes before serving. As a main course, it serves about 4-6. As a side dish, probably 10-14.
It may sound complicated, and even if using precooked chicken, it takes over an hour from start to finish. But it’s undoubtedly worth the wait.
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And if I may, Phil … make sure you’re scooping down to the bottom of your saucepan when you’re boiling down the white sauce, or the last quarter inch of white sauce will be non-white.
I whipped up something similar once by shredding the bejesus out of the chicken in a slow cooker. But then that was in my slow cooker phase.
by fleerdon on Nov 9, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the first time I made it I shredded the chicken after boiling it (yeah, not exactly culinary delicacy, but it was easy). The chicken just gets a bit lost in the mac and cheese, or so says my fiance. So I went with dicing the chicken this time and it worked out much better for me.
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I made this today, the taste is excellent. The texture bothers me slightly, its really grainy. Did I mess something up? Also, I probably could have cut back on the cheese, because it seemed like a little too much cheese. On the plus side, the girlfriend thinks I can cook now. On the negative, she may expect stuff like that to happen more often now.
by Fundamentals on Nov 15, 2008 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
cooking is fun
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 15, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
the first time i made it, the cheese sauce was a bit grainy as well, but nothing that really bothered me. i’m not a chef by any means, so i can’t explain what would help. now this purely a guess, but maybe reducing the amount of flour or adding more milk would help. however, this would create more cheese (if you added milk), which you seem to think is a problem.
I had this same “problem”, and solved it by refrigerating, reheating the next day, and attacking it with some tortilla chips.
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I actually did that as well. Had some leftovers for lunch and had cheese at the bottom. Problem-solving at its finest.
by Fundamentals on Nov 18, 2008 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
hooray beer
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 8, 2008 8:23 PM EST reply actions
Roll that beautiful first ale footage:

Not pictured: My Fausto-beating-up-Sheffield desktop.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Nov 8, 2008 9:12 PM EST reply actions 5 recs
Ha! I sent a similar picture, of the winking lizard glass filled up next to the bottle, to my buddy in Chicago. He responded that between the 6th and 7th of a 9-hole last night, he stopped at a beverage store that had Christmas Ale. $12 never tasted so good to he and 5 friends.
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PC
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 15, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions
Picked up my first 6 of the Christmas Ale Season on the way home tonight, along with a Sierra Nevada Southern Hemisphere Fresh Hop Harvest Ale (recommended for any hop freaks).
The day became so much better.
I’m a fan of Sierra Nevada’s Celebration Ale as well. Downed a number of those the night before Thanksgiving last year watching …And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead at the grog shop.
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Going to Cleveland in December…looking forward to getting to try some of this and see what the fuss is all about
by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Nov 10, 2008 3:30 AM EST reply actions
december may be too late. have a friend or family member get a six pack and hold on to it for you till you get there.
Well we may go to GLBC for dinner while we’re in Cleveland, so I would hope they still have it on tap in there! I know my brother-in-law has already cracked open his first though, so maybe I will ask him to save some as you suggest.
by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Nov 10, 2008 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
i’m sure you’ll be fine. just sayin’ better safe than sorry. it’s also one of those beers that i think is pretty different on tap than in bottle. i can never decide which i like better, actually.
Be forewarned! Winking Lizard will typically alter it by adding cinnamon. Not a fan.
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that is wrong. i’ve only had it on tap a few times – and nowhere that would do that. the difference isn’t anywhere that drastic, but it’s there.
What? Winking Lizard adds cinnamon? Doesn’t it already have cinnamon?
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 10, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions
Interesting. I’ll have to make sure I can have a good attempt at tasting both…many times
by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on Nov 11, 2008 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
i got a sixer of bell’s xmas ale
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 10, 2008 1:09 PM EST reply actions
i don’t know?
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 10, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
going to have one in t-minus 2 hours
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 10, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
For those in the St. Louis area, or those that may be visiting, O’Fallon’s winter seasonal, Cherry Chocolate Ale is terrific.
bell’s is money folks
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 11, 2008 12:28 PM EST reply actions
This is an idea that I stole from a bar in Cleveland, and it is fantastic. Before pouring a glass of amazing christmas ale you coat the rim of the glass with cinnimon and sugar mix. It may be the greatest thing ever! It was sound fruity to some people but the taste is worth it.
Proving that she truly loves me, my mom told me on the phone that she picked up a sixer of this for me when I go home for Thanksgiving.
DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.
Anyone know of anyplace off of I-80 this is available? I’ll be driving to and from SE Michigan (where I’ve been unable to find it) in a few weeks, and I’d like to pick some up for a friend.
i live quite literally just off I-80 and its not in my parts
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 11, 2008 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
There’s an interstate in my pants, and the only exi…. um… what?
by Logodaedalus on Nov 13, 2008 11:21 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
all right i’m officially bored again
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 11, 2008 9:20 PM EST reply actions
i’ve got 5 more left
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 11, 2008 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Well then why the hell are you bored?
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by Turkmenbashi on Nov 12, 2008 9:09 AM EST up reply actions
because i’m not drinking them?
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 12, 2008 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
Um… so drink them. Seems like an easy solution.
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by Turkmenbashi on Nov 12, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
It’s marginally dull, but not shockingly dull. I’d give it a dull rating of 8. What do you think?
by NickFantana on Nov 12, 2008 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
The use of the words “immersing” and “sump pumps” in the same sentence should probably be avoided.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Nov 12, 2008 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Anyone catch the reference to a John Larroquette line from the movie Stripes in my original post?
hey guy with the the Bill Murray avatar, you need to get on this…
My favorite line from that movie comes when Murray and Ramis are going into the recruiting station. A shopkeeper tells them they can’t park Murray’s piece of junk car there, and Ramis replies, “we’re not parking it; we’re abandoning it.”
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
The truck comment? I’ve gotta say, I didn’t make the connection until you mentioned this, and I went up to re-read the initial post. Now that I see it, though, it’s a nice touch.
By the way, you don’t know anyplace near 1-80 that sells it, do you?
if you drive through Ohio yes? I didn’t catch which direction you were taking on I 80 to SE Michigan.
Yes. Through Ohio. I’ll be traveling from and to Youngstown from SE Michigan. Really, any place within 10 miles or so of I-80 would do fine.
there should be ample places to stop off the turnpike. are you familiar with how to use google maps to search for nearby stores?
i picked a point along the turnpike, and use the “search near by” function and typed in “beverage store”. I came up with this
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forgot to add that it doesn’t guarantee that beverage store will have it, but that’s an easy way to find locations off the turnpike.
Here’s a Giant Eagle close to that same spot on the turnpike.
Here’s another further west in Strongsville, a nicer area if you’re unfamiliar with it.
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Ha! Yes. I definitely can use Google maps. Sorry, I didn’t expect anyone to look place up for me. I just wondered if anyone actually knew of someplace that had it from experience. I’ll probably just call some of the places, or stop in Strongsville as suggested below.
To be honest, I think the “shortages” are overblown and more of a PR move on GLBC’s part. If you stop in Strongsville, you should be able to find some with little worry.
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I know there’s an 80 exit onto Pearl Road in Strongsville. I guarantee one of the first 3 places you stop in either direction will have some.
Probably safer to go south, towards the mall. I expect there’s more there.
Steel Nick
Sad to say, but I’ve never had the chance to sip the nectar of GLBC brew, Christmas or otherwise. Been living on the West Coast way, way too long I guess.
But my favorite winter brew, would have to be Anchor Steam’s Christmas Ale. Evry year, the recipe and label changes. Getting that first six-pack when it was released was like Christmas morning, because you never knew what to expect.
Another excellent winter brew is Sierra Nevada’s Celebration Ale. As rolub and jts alluded to above. Be careful of the Bigfoot Ale though, packs a wallop.
Ah yes, when the pub down my street was blacklisted from GLBC distribution last year, they supplanted the GLBC Christmas Ale with the Anchor Steam Christmas Ale… a very nice brew indeed.
I think I’ll have a GLBCA while watching my fantasy team get off to a good start this week on the NFL Network. Cheers!
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Blacklisted? What ungodly thing did they do to deserve that? Put cinnamon and sugar on the rim of the glass?
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 14, 2008 8:50 AM EST up reply actions
Free times article, 1 year old today.
It doesn’t tell the whole story… apparently, Pat Conway himself told Knall not to give Parnell’s any Christmas Ale this year.
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I suspect that Knall has more to do with this than anything, but I don’t know. I find it hard to believe that a brewery that has chosen to stay small despite obvious demand for expansion would intentionally try to screw the little guys.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 14, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I think you’re missing the point a bit.
If a brewery cannot meet demand as it is, and they would prefer not to provide a pub owner who drug their name through the mud, then they will have no problem finding someone to take up those extra kegs.
I won’t claim to know the parties personally involved, but I have good sources on both sides of the table and I stand by what I said in the above post.
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You know, it is definitely possible to know too many people in the drunkenness business.
by Jay on Nov 14, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
aye
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by Gradyforpresident on Nov 14, 2008 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
one of my best friends is an alcoholic.
sometimes it’s like being the friend of the mayor.
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and to my point, my “good sources” are neither servers nor bartenders. i wasn’t throwing out a rumor.
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Actually, without proper attribution, I think you can’t call it anything else but a rumor.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 15, 2008 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
while in seattle this weekend, i had a st. bernardus christmas ale which was stellar. also had a jolly roger c.a. and something called a jubileale – neither of which were anything special.
It’s amazing how just about every brewery feels compelled to try their hand at winter warmer Christmas Ales these days (you could say the same of Pumpkin Ales as of late.) The majority of which are just no good. I think that’s where Great Lakes really stands out.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 17, 2008 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
I’ve been on a quest for a solid Pumpkin Ale for a while, and thought I hit the jackpot with the Dogfish Head Punkin Ale. But no…. it was the brown sugar that Winking Lizard (again, those bastards!) added to it that enhanced the flavor. Having it on tap at other restaurants and out of the bottle left me underwhelmed.
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I’m a big fan of Bison’s seasonal pumpkin ale. Most others just don’t do it for me.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 17, 2008 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, people always talk about the coffee, but the omnipresence of excellent beer selection is the city’s greatest asset.
if you go there, and like beer. go to a place called Brouwers in Freemont. get over the hangover with a coffee from vivace. repeat.
I processed out of the Navy in Bremerton and spent the better part of three weeks (I was usually free to leave the base by lunchtime) exploring the brewery’s and brewpubs of Seattle in a constant, cold March rainfall that made beer drinking seem like the only option. Those long afternoons turning into hazy evenings with friendly bartenders and regulars as my guide laid the foundation of my knowledge of ales, stouts, etc… Up until that point all I knew was pretty much the cheapest lager of whatever country I was in.
by PatBordersHelmet on Nov 17, 2008 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Buffalo chicken mac n’ cheese, and finishing up my 3rd Christmas Ale.
If I had not given the remote control to the fiance, this would have been close to the perfect night.
Instead…. “Wife Swap”.
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Man, I saw this thread and was all “Let’s get some holiday themed beer.” So, I went to local terrible liquor store and walked out with Sam Adams Winter Ale. And it’s not much to write home about.
Ah. The sushi was good at leas.t
i know how you feel. i went through bell’s but i’ve got no other winter/xmas ales, and John’s is the best beer store in Iowa
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