Indians make offer to Joe Nelson?

cleveland.com is reporting that the Indians are one of the 4 favorites of reliever Joe Nelson. They are also saying that the Tribe has made an offer, but his agent won't provide details.

Hey, if we aren't going to load up on starters, load up relievers. Works for me.

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i’m game. so long eddie moo, nice to know you…

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 4:39 PM EST reply actions

Whose the better/more cost effective reliever? Will Ohman or Nelson?

by world dictator on Dec 19, 2008 4:50 PM EST reply actions

Also, I’m excited about the possibility of having two relief pitchers named Joe.

by world dictator on Dec 19, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions

whoever this guy is, he has a distinctively New Jersey look about him

by Logodaedalus on Dec 20, 2008 2:33 AM EST up reply actions

And a distinctly “dark seeker” look, too.

by Jay on Dec 20, 2008 12:44 PM EST up reply actions

i had never heard of this guy before now

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 19, 2008 4:55 PM EST reply actions

if i didn’t play in a fantasy league where set-up men were really important, i wouldn’t have…

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 5:00 PM EST up reply actions

I admit to being baffled by our continued interest in more FA relievers. I’m still of the opinion we have four young guys (Miller, Sipp, Meloan, Stevens), all of whom have a chance of being good relievers, already fighting for just one spot in the pen. Adding Wood and Smith, good. Anyone else just seems like overkill.

by APV on Dec 19, 2008 4:59 PM EST reply actions

i bet the plan is to let those guys pitch down in c-bus regualarly, rather than mastney themselves into one game a week in cleveland so that when/if we need them, they jump right in…

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 5:01 PM EST up reply actions

I think avoiding Mastny-ing anyone should be a goal. Obviously that means putting together a collection of arms that are all atleast within sniffing distance of the COT. I wish Wedge gave more a benefit of a doubt to the young relievers who deserve a little benefit of doubt.

by APV on Dec 19, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions

Agreed. I still feel like we move our prospects from AAA to the big league club very slowly which tarnishes the value of the prospects in terms of their ability to help in Cleveland or net something in a trade. But its entirely possible I’m just impatient.

Regardless, I can see why Shapiro is targeting another reliever. Throwing out a couple of million to a this tier of reliever is a low cost high reward move that’s likely to give us more bang for our buck.

Though I wonder, if we should take this as a sign that the amount of money we have in this years budget is smaller than we think.

by world dictator on Dec 19, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions

I don’t have a problem systematically with the way we treat prospects. But I did wish Wedge had given Mastny and Mujica more regular roles in the pen when they came up. Mastny, in particular, had a track record worthy of that.

by APV on Dec 19, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions

I guess I see the two as somewhat related. If Wedge doesn’t play prospects, then there’s no reason to promote them. And if they are promoted, it seems like forever before they get a shot.

by world dictator on Dec 19, 2008 6:01 PM EST up reply actions

and surely sipp and miller with both start the year down, don’t you think

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 5:04 PM EST up reply actions

*will

my lord, i can not type today. i’m done.

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 5:05 PM EST up reply actions

Seriously – why are we spending FA $$ on relievers?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 19, 2008 5:20 PM EST reply actions

because they stopped accepting FA credit.

by Brick. on Dec 19, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs

It’s smart not to count on Adam Miller for the last spot. But I guess this also blocks Meloan, Stevens, and Rundles. There will be injuries, and the depth will be valuable. If Nelson is signed, I have to believe somebody is getting traded.

by xrickx on Dec 19, 2008 7:45 PM EST reply actions

Shoppach + reliever + top 10 prospect = ?

by world dictator on Dec 19, 2008 9:11 PM EST up reply actions

The answer had better be Peavy, or I’m not listening.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 19, 2008 9:47 PM EST up reply actions

or Lincecum.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 19, 2008 9:48 PM EST up reply actions

Lincecum isn’t going anywhere. As for Peavy, I’m sure most people know how I feel about him.

by world dictator on Dec 19, 2008 10:14 PM EST up reply actions

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 20, 2008 1:49 AM EST up reply actions

Given the volatility of relievers and especially of relief prospects, I can’t believe anyone can talk about a relief prospect being “blocked” with a straight face. (Maybe you didn’t have on when you wrote that.

Number of Indians relievers by season:

2008 – 17
2007 – 15
2006 – 17
2005 – 12
2004 – 22, including Tim Laker

Let’s not kid ourselves, people … you can’t have enough.

Now, whether this Nelson guy or anyone else is worth spending any money on, that’s another question.

by Jay on Dec 20, 2008 12:27 AM EST up reply actions

“blocked,” as in, not fighting for an open spot in the bullpen out of spring training (health assumed). shapiro is going to make the young arms an entire tier of depth. on re-read, i can see that i didn’t make myself clear. i wouldn’t be shocked and somewhat expect all those guys, sipp, maybe newsom, and one or two others we’re not even thinking of to join the pen at some point.

as for nelson, he turned down $650K from FL and asked for $800K. now that he’s on the market, maybe he’ll grab a million?

by xrickx on Dec 20, 2008 2:42 AM EST up reply actions