Tex Wants To Win As Badly as CC

I'm actually enjoying this now. I hope they get Manny and Peavy. Beating them in the first round will be hilarious.

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Tex = Jackass.

by world dictator on Dec 23, 2008 3:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is outrageous, but hopefully the first step to getting the idiots running MLB that they need to fix baseball

by Roger Dorn on Dec 23, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

my thoughts too

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 23, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Does anyone remember how basketball and football implemented salary caps? Because the Yankees would seem to have the better part of a decade’s worth of exceptions in A-Rod, Sabathia, and Texiera now.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Dec 23, 2008 5:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ya know, I wonder this sometimes too. I was too young to know what was going on a the time, but i know that the cowboys had to have been over any limit they imposed.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 23, 2008 9:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So, we do realize, don’t we, that the two teams socked with the luxury tax for last season did not even make the playoffs?

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 23, 2008 5:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sorry it took so long to get rid of that message. I forwarded it to Blez and the SBN folks so they can do a network-wide ban. He had already been banned on a couple of other SBN sites.

by Jay on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

400 million for 3 players, that’s absolutely ridiculous.

by JP_Frost on Dec 23, 2008 3:43 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The Farce Called MLB

This is why I no longer pay any attention to Major League Baseball.

by ploni on Dec 23, 2008 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You’re just here for the architecture talk?

by Jay on Dec 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs

Yes. The building is on fire.

by ploni on Dec 24, 2008 11:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

But you do read baseball blogs? I’m with you! I’m going to stop paying attention too.

Except for LGT. And the occasional game on the radio. And maybe the DiaTribe every once in a while. And the games in my partial season tickets. I also might check out the Casto Turf site once in a while. And I got a new TV this off season, so I might catch a few on STO, but other than that I’m done!

by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 23, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

Don’t forget MLB Network.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 23, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So stupid. So f-ing stupid.

Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.

by gte619n on Dec 23, 2008 3:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

But wait, it gets better. Tex signing with the Yankees pushes back the compensitory draft pick that the Blue Jays and the Brewers get.

Brewers now get a 2nd round pick and the Blue Jays now get a 3rd round pick.

by world dictator on Dec 23, 2008 3:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

You’re sure Tex has a higher Elias ranking than C.C.?

by Jay on Dec 23, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I read that as well that Tex has the number 1. Brewcrewball seems to imply the same

by Roger Dorn on Dec 23, 2008 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was really hoping he’d come to DC, because I know someone who’s selling a house for 7.5 million.

Whatever. Fight on, Tribe.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

To finish the thought, I don’t know who’s gonna buy his damned house. It seems that Yankees are the only guys with any money nowadays.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 4:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Seven and a half mill is a tool shed to Tex.

by odradek on Dec 23, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is a lot of fuss over a third place team, no?

by millionairesrow on Dec 23, 2008 3:57 PM EST reply actions 29 recs

Who isn’t reccing?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 23, 2008 4:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

In some areas they’re still pretty crappy and vulnerable. They should have rebuilt, but they’re junkies.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 4:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This is completely beyond the pale. I hate the Yankees with every fiber of my being.

by fwembt on Dec 23, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

How much longer do they wait to replace the front office with a bunch of blow-up dolls. Seriously, all they need is one person who speaks English well to handle to press conferences.

by JK in CBus on Dec 23, 2008 4:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Outsource FO to Bangalore: A perfect tie-in with Million Dollar Arm,

by odradek on Dec 23, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I remember now why I once rooted for the Red Sox in 2004. They weren’t the Yankees.

Lose. Every. Game. You Asses.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 23, 2008 4:24 PM EST reply actions 4 recs

I rooted for them that postseason too.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 23, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

the funniest thing about that picture is that rocket has a baseball in his hand still….hilarious.

by RD74 on Dec 23, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Split finger at that.

by Ohiokie on Dec 24, 2008 9:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Yankees will score 1200 runs this season!!!! /Kruk

Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.

by gte619n on Dec 23, 2008 4:27 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

So good thing they got Nick Swisher.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 23, 2008 4:31 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

What’s everybody so worried about? We’ve got them right where we want them.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Dec 23, 2008 4:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Time to land Pettite?

by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 23, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They’d by Sheets or Lowe.

That said, I think its time to just ignore the idoicy of the Yankees and their money. It hasn’t won them donkey dung in years.

Still the local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer" and confident that Gutz will succeed in Seattle.

by mjmarble on Dec 23, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They haven’t done it quite like this in years, if ever, either.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 23, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s absurd to assume it won’t this year.

by fwembt on Dec 23, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Except for an extremely long streak of postseason appearances that was only broken this one time this past season.

by Roger Dorn on Dec 23, 2008 5:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So do they need to actually win something this year for MLB to notice a problem? I hope not, because we’re going to destroy them, on April 16 and in October.

by jds16 on Dec 23, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

MLB won’t notice a problem until it shows up in the revenue numbers, imo

by Roger Dorn on Dec 23, 2008 5:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

October? We’ll be playing the Rays and/or the Jays.

by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 23, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

nowammynowammynowammySTOP!

by danvail on Dec 23, 2008 6:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

That would be a dream! ESPN would either spend the entire post season analyzing why BOS and NYY missed the playoffs or they would self implode.

Still the local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer" and confident that Gutz will succeed in Seattle.

by mjmarble on Dec 23, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Newsday, December 21:

“The signs continue to stack up that Pettitte eventually will re-sign with the Yankees. As Newsday has reported for some time, the Yankees expect him to re-sign. FoxSports.com wrote yesterday that Pettitte’s return is ‘virtually inevitable.’”

by odradek on Dec 23, 2008 6:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

New York is a hellhole.

by fwembt on Dec 23, 2008 5:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure this has been linked to before, but…

IT’S COMING TRUE!

by cleveland teamer on Dec 23, 2008 5:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs

“I see no reason why a small-market team like the Twins or Expos can’t continue to remain competitive, just because it lacks players,” Selig said. “The league was due for contraction, anyway.”

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

geez, before you know it, you’ll have a powerhouse similar to the 2001 Mariners (116 wins). Some jackass beat them in the playoffs that year for his only career playoff win.

by kennesawmountainwahoo on Dec 23, 2008 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was at that game, pretty awesome

by Roger Dorn on Dec 23, 2008 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

lol that link is great

by kershaw_equals_stud on Dec 31, 2008 6:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Texeria has always seemed like a drone to me, and this only proves it.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 6:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What does this even mean?

by Joe. on Dec 23, 2008 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No personality whatsoever, a mercenary, a jackass.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So because he signed with the Yankees, he has no personality?

by Joe. on Dec 23, 2008 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps he didn’t have one to begin with, but the issue is now moot. He’s a jackass.

Kaneoka Texeira was traded to the Yankees. So the Yankees have two Texeiras, but only one is a jackass, and I assume the other one also has a personality.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, now that he’s turned out to be a jackass, he has more personality than ever.

by Jay on Dec 23, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m awaiting your mention of CC, as if this were a contest of logic.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 7:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Also, to correct this glaring payroll imbalance, I think it’ll likely fall on the players to accept a cap or other measures—they will all collectively have to not be jackasses for the sake of competitive balance and the long-term legitimacy of the league.

How would you define our responsibilities as fans of MLB, an association which allows the spirit of competition to be violated? If you’re like me, you’ve got a big problem with this.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The issue is as much among the owners as it is owner-vs-players. They have not done anywhere near enough to say that the Yankees have to share a massive part of their revenue, since they only make money by virtue of playing other MLB teams. I mean, you have to look at it this way: If they threw the Yankees out of MLB, what would that do to their revenues and value?

The union is going to resist any kind of cap, but they aren’t necessarily against revenue sharing. What we have right now is something like a 30% luxury tax above $160 million. What we actually need is a 100% luxury tax above $120 million, possibly much more.

by Jay on Dec 23, 2008 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think that is a fantastic idea.

by Joe. on Dec 23, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I am not one who can critique financial designs, but as long as the percentage of revenues that goes toward salaries is maintained or increased—and it can be argued that the new scheme is oriented toward boosting league-wide revenues—then it shouldn’t be too tough, right? Am I being naive.

A lot of people talk like it’ll never happen, but I am hopeful. On that note, I’m reading the Yankee’s flagrant excesses this off season as a positive sign. They’re going to become a lightning rod now more than ever.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 23, 2008 10:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well, that’s what the NFL has, a cap formula based on revenues. I don’t remember off-hand if the NBA has a dynamic formula or if they just renegotiate the limits with every new CBA.

by Jay on Dec 24, 2008 2:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or you could put another team in the metro area, to play in the Meadowlands. The union would love it. The only people who wouldn’t are named Steinbrenner.

by odradek on Dec 23, 2008 10:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Selig’s touted “blue ribbon panel” recommended putting up to FOUR more teams in the region from Hartford to Trenton. It’s very obvious economically that that’s one move that would help a lot.

I personally think the league should just take over all media contracts and split them 30 ways, or barring that, at least teams should be compelled to split media revenues with the opposing team 50-50 on a game-by-game basis. It sounds complicated, but the math would be pretty straightforward.

by Jay on Dec 24, 2008 2:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m going to play devil’s advocate.

Do the Yankmees have a hole in their foot?

1) The Yankmees are the number one bandwagon baseball fan team.
2) Their fanbase is massive and nationwide.
3) They get huge money from their TV deal that tries to exploit that fanbase.
4) One could make the case that they have to spend like a drunken sailor on leave every off-season because if they don’t, the bandwagon will diminish because they are no longer as successful as they once were.
5) If you haven’t noticed, the nation is in a pretty good recession. Some believe this may last more than just the next 9 months.
6) Yes, entertainment spending is not something that typically diminishes in a recession. However, one could make a very good arguement that all sports entertainment had already priced itself a little beyond the casual fan. MLB already recognizes this with the price cuts that are being implemented this year. One could argue a little too little and a little too late.
7) Yes, the Yankmees did negotiate a horrible deal for the NY taxpayer, which relieves them of a huge expense exposure. But they have plenty of their own expenses.
8) What happens to the Yankmees if their fanbase diminishes?
9) As crazy as this may seem, could the Yankmees be headed to financial ruin?

Ok, that’s a stretch, but it might not be a big of a stretch as you might imagine. I won’t get into the economics of this, but I will if I need to.

proverbial "moron in a hurry"

by 94neverout on Dec 24, 2008 10:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

oh god I hope so.

by hans on Dec 24, 2008 11:25 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Financial ruin? I mean I’ve read some absurd things lately but this takes the cake.

by Joe. on Dec 24, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually I proposed this a week ago. Yep, the Yankees have their ass hangin’ out there and they just might lose it.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Dec 24, 2008 5:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

My appologies. I did not see it.

Yes, it is absurd because of the nature of the long-term TV contracts. I can’t find any reliable data. I read in an opinion with no references that the Yankmees local TV contract is not part of the MLB revenue sharing plan. That contract probably accounts for several hundred million in annual revenue. It is likely a long term deal even though the team owns the network. If advertising revenue drops, the YES network will feel the pinch first, and likely be the only entity that feels the pinch.

I did see that GM dropped the sponsorship of the new ballpark. That hits the team. That also probably hits revenue sharing.

The system needs fixing. Idiots run the Yankmees. (Hank the Yank) I’m just not going to get upset about it. If they continue to be beaten on the field, they will suffer including in a financial way and I like that idea very much.

proverbial "moron in a hurry"

by 94neverout on Dec 26, 2008 9:40 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Something about the Big 3 falling apart.

by joeee on Dec 24, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I can actually vouch for this. Having dealt with Teixeira on a personal level for a couple months when he was with the Braves, I can definitely say that he is a jackass with no personality. Except that everybody thinks he’s a GRRRRREAAAT guy, and that makes me hate him even more. He was a phony then, and he’s even more of a phony now.

by jefftribe on Dec 23, 2008 10:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 24, 2008 6:36 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs

I’m loving this deal. 21.5 million for Teixeira? LOL!

by Joe. on Dec 23, 2008 6:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Looking at their depth chart, their pen still really sucks. And are they really starting either Gardner or Nady in the outfield?

by supermarioelia on Dec 23, 2008 8:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Joel Sherman says they’re looking to trade either Nady, Matsui, or Swisher.

But I agree, that’s a pretty crappy outfield for a near $200 million payroll.

And while I’d normally suggest exploring a trade for one of those three, I’m really hesitant to do anything to benefit the MFY at this point.

by world dictator on Dec 23, 2008 8:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Their pen was actually very good last year which suggests some regression. Rivera is still great though and I would expect Damaso Marte to have a stronger year than last year

Either way they have A-Rod and Texeira, two of the better hitters in the league along with a very strong rotation. I’d be shocked if they didn’t make the playoffs

by Roger Dorn on Dec 23, 2008 10:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gardner and Nady are only there until they sign Manny Being Manny.

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Dec 24, 2008 9:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m sure Manny will be next for about 25per for 2 years

by ASP on Dec 23, 2008 8:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This is what the Yankees should do with their cash. They don’t have to revenue share as much with their new stadium (the funding by taxpayers to the stadium is probably close to that of formerly Jacobs field). The baseball playing field is ridiculously unlevel.

If I were the Yankees, I’d get Manny also. Why not? I think I could be the GM of the Yankees.

by oxforddave on Dec 23, 2008 9:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

If Cashman has secret identity, you wouldn’t be my first guess. I’d go for Scott Boras.

by KevinV on Dec 23, 2008 11:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Can you imagine being a Blue Jays fan? Chance to be the 7th or so best team in baseball but no one knows it because they’re the 4th best team in that division. Just ridiculous.

by cheech99 on Dec 23, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I don’t understand this Blue Jays optimism. They lost Burnett and added nobody, but this isn’t the first I’ve heard of them possibly being very good. Unless they’ve got a couple top-40 prospects on the rise, I really don’t get it…. and I don’t think they do.

But what do I know – I don’t even know what country their minor lg team is in.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 24, 2008 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ignore the italics that look stupid bc of my 2 a.m. sentence rewording

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 24, 2008 1:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

They were in Syracuse up until the end of this past season, and will now be in Las Vegas. What an organization….somehow having a minor league affiliate in Vegas seemed like a good idea for a team in Canada.

by supermarioelia on Dec 24, 2008 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’ve read a couple different places that the Syracuse franchise is considered to be one of the worst-run franchises in all of AAA. The only thing Syracuse had going for it as far as Toronto was concerned was proximity. The Mets skipped over Syracuse, which would have been closer, to align with Buffalo because of the high quality of the front office.

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Dec 24, 2008 10:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was always surprised that the Jays didn’t work harder to develop some sort of affiliation with Ottawa of the International League before it’s relocation to down south. Considering that after 31 years they still have work to do as far as marketing their team, you’d figure that setting up shop in the country’s capital would’ve made good sense. No one up here seems to understand why that never happened.

by supermarioelia on Dec 24, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey Mario, this is for you.

Resident LGT beer kinda sewer

by mauichuck on Dec 25, 2008 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Syracuse franchise was pretty good when it was cranking out Fred McGriff, Tony Fernandez, David Wells, John Olerud, Cecil Fielder, Dave Stieb, etc.

by odradek on Dec 24, 2008 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I was going to end my post with “Mario?” and should have.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 24, 2008 11:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

One more thing. The Brewers now only get a 2nd round pick for losing CC. Another reason why potential draft picks are not worth that much.

by oxforddave on Dec 24, 2008 10:33 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

This makes Matt LaPorta and Michael Brantley look really good in hindsight, doesn’t it?

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Dec 24, 2008 10:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh yeah.

by oxforddave on Dec 24, 2008 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Even though it’s quite common not to get a first-round pick (pre-sandwich round) for a Type A free-agent, I would have been livid had we not gotten one for Sabathia, especially if this were the reason.

by Jay on Dec 24, 2008 10:59 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Question: On what year’s payroll are option buyouts counted towards?

I would presume it is the option year, but I’m not entirely sure. The only reason I bring this up is that there has been some early talk about where the Yanks payroll stands. For example, Giambi has a 5 M buyout for his ’08 option and Pavano has a 1.95 M buyout on his.

by ClarkM on Dec 24, 2008 11:01 AM EST reply actions 0 recs