Randy Johnson signs with Giants

He signs a one year deal worth $8M in his pursuit of that 300 Win plateau.

Sorry, but no in game references of the Big Unit turning to Wood in 9.

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If he’s after the wins, wouldn’t it make sense to, you know, NOT sign with the Giants.

by Fundamentals on Dec 27, 2008 8:56 AM EST reply actions 4 recs

The Giants have the makings of a fantastic rotation: Lincecum (2.67 FIP in 2008), Johnson (3.73), Cain (3.85), Sanchez (3.90), and Zito (4.62).

The offense on the other hand will probably not be good.

by ClarkM on Dec 27, 2008 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

they’ll win maybe 2 more games all year because of this move. And they’ll have to be shutouts.

And they’ll still be sub-.500.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 27, 2008 2:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If this were any other division besides the NL West, I’d agree with you.

by world dictator on Dec 27, 2008 2:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

does this mean that Jonathan Sanchez could be traded for? I wouldn’t mind seeing him in an Indians uniform.

by JP_Frost on Dec 27, 2008 11:56 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Why would this make Sanchez available?

by world dictator on Dec 27, 2008 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

not sure, but it seems that if the Giants want to go for it next year, they will need some bats and they have pitching depth (I believe Lowry is coming back as well) to deal from.

by JP_Frost on Dec 27, 2008 12:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I stand correct. According to Chris Haft of MLB.com, Sabean said the Giants are willing to listen to deals for Sanchez. (But not for a player who’s going to be a free agent after 2009)

I bet Shapiro is all over this one.

by world dictator on Dec 27, 2008 8:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Unfortunately it looks like the Giants definetely don’t need a Catcher though so it looks like we’re out of the running unless the Giants will take prospects instead of a young position player.

Sadness.

by world dictator on Dec 27, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

maybe a deal centered around Garko can be worked out. I know the Giants have a hole at 1st base. It would take some other pieces though.

by JP_Frost on Dec 27, 2008 11:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Garko and Sanchez don’t even belong in the same sentence. And I say that as a Garko fan.

by world dictator on Dec 28, 2008 12:13 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m also eager to hoodwink someone on Garko, and if he could be traded for any starting pitcher at all, Great! sign me up.

But do we really want Sanchez? Is he good?

He’s a little off my radar. Like, what hand does he throw with?

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 28, 2008 2:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sanchez is a hard throwing lefty who’s fastball averages 91-92mph but can be cranked up to 95mph. If someone could teach him how to throw his changeup he could be amazing.

Here are two great Sanchez articles by Peter.

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/4/29/462788/is-jonathan-sanchez-for-re

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/breakout-candidate-jonathan-sanchez

by world dictator on Dec 28, 2008 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Thanks, WD. I was about to jump in and say how much of a fan I am of Sanchez, but I’ll let those articles speak for me.

And for those who don’t want to read the articles, it’s probably enough that I simply wrote two articles about the guy (and had to hold back from writing more…)

by Peter Bendix on Dec 29, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like the kind of guy the Twins would be trying to get.

by Jay on Dec 29, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If they already have a hole at first base, what do they need Garko for?

by Jay on Dec 28, 2008 1:05 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs

I know Garko’s 08 season left alot to be desired, but he was pretty good the year before and if the Giants are smart they’d recognize a young, cost-controlled player with upside. However, therein lies the problem — the Giants haven’t really made any smart baseball decisions the last couple of years.

Like I said it would take some other players as well, and it may not be worth it in the end (I read they’re mostly looking for a corner OF’er), but Sanchez is certainly a guy I think warrants some interest from our side.

by JP_Frost on Dec 28, 2008 10:26 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Garko is not considered to have significant upside by analysts or scouts. He will bounce back from 2008, but he was never likely to hit much better than he did in 2007.

by Jay on Dec 28, 2008 10:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Not trading Sanchez for Garko would be a very smart baseball decision by the Giants.

Simply put, Garko of 2007 is not worth Sanchez of 2008.

Young, inexpensive, left handed pitchers who can throw 95 don’t grow on trees.

Yes I know you said other players would have to be included, but Garko is not a very good centerpiece for a deal.

by world dictator on Dec 28, 2008 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so, in other words, Sabean might do it.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 29, 2008 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Or Ed Wade.

by Jay on Dec 29, 2008 2:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

We can only pray my friend, we can only pray.

by world dictator on Dec 29, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’d love Sanchez as well. I hope he finds a spot in a rotation some where, I am counting on him as my #4 in my NL squad next year.

by talonk on Dec 30, 2008 6:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe. But I don’t know why the Giants would trade young starting pitching for a bat, when there’s a surplus of bargain bats available in free agency.

I don’t think we even have a bat to trade the Giants anyways. But yeah, Sanchez would be a nice addition in an ideal world.

by world dictator on Dec 27, 2008 2:29 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Dellucci for Cain, silly.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 27, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It looks like the Red Sox are close to signing Brad Penny to a one year deal, according to various sources.

This a very unfortunate development for the Indians, because it takes a potential bargain bin starter off the market, one who I can gurantee the Indians were looking at.

I’m still on the S.S. Ben Sheets though.

by world dictator on Dec 28, 2008 7:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Pfft… We wouldn’t top $8M for 1 year? There really must have been no interest in him from Shapiro or vice versa.

I have nothing to base this on, but I think this was sort of a Trevor Hoffman like situation, where Johnson just wanted to stay out west, so we never really even had a shot. Other wise, i can’t imagine why we wouldnt be in on him at the price he signed for. This sort of deal would have been perfect for us.

by KevinV on Dec 30, 2008 6:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

IIRC correctly, I do believe he did want to stay on the West coast.

by talonk on Dec 30, 2008 6:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Who says we weren’t in on him? Just because a free agent signs somewhere other than Cleveland doesn’t mean that Shapiro was asleep at the wheel.

by world dictator on Dec 30, 2008 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t you ever read on Cleveland.com? Of course he was asleep at the wheel.

by fwembt on Dec 30, 2008 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe someone should have posted “SIGN RANDY JOHNSON HE WILL WIN US A LOT OF GAMES HE’S A PROVEN WINNER. THEN WE CAN BRING BACK OMAR AND MANNY. READ THIS SHAPIRO.”

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Dec 31, 2008 11:12 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Kevin didn’t say he was asleep at the wheel. He said Shapiro may not have been interested — not the same thing — or that Johnson may not have had any interest in Cleveland, which I believe was the case.

by Jay on Dec 31, 2008 12:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs