DeRosa?

Hat tip to our Orioles friend, but not you know who.

Castro says something is brewing. What are people's thoughts?

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for the main link, i linked Castro’s main page in case he adds a new post as opposed to updating the one linked in the body. anyway, he’s been the best source for breaking news lately if you want to work out your refresh button.

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 12:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

THIS THIS THIS

by NickFantana on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Another link

http://stations.espn.go.com/stations/espnradio1000/blog?id=3738908&post=3802186

Cubs fan here. It’s been big news on Cubs boards. Speculation is, we’d send DeRosa over to get some pitching to potentially flip to San Diego for a Peavy deal. Dealing DeRosa/Marquis helps clear off payroll room to allow us to potentially add Peavy/Bradley, and we added Aaron Miles as a utility guy today.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If this is the case, shouldn’t we just trade our young pitching for Peavy? Not necessarily directed at you but, in general, you know, Peavy’s good.

by NickFantana on Dec 31, 2008 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

was about to write this exact thing.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I must say, I like the sounds of DeRosa – with the obvious ‘hope we didn’t give up certain guys’ caveats. I think he’s a good fit. Depending on who emerges/demerges he can move around too.

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

DeRosa has a one year deal worth $5.5M (which fits our supposed remaining $$ for this year).

I doubt the prospect(s) involved would have to be as costly as to what Roberts would have cost us. Although I am not sure how that helps the Cubs in the Peavy deal if we send them a Sowers type instead of a Huff type.

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

If we trade Huff, I will sob and consider not going out tonight

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

San Diego probably wouldn't care for a Sowers type

Just my speculation, but in the last go around, they were looking for higher ceiling youngsters. I’d imagine guys like de la Cruz, rondon, miller, Huff could get speculated on.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No way Huff is included as “filler”.

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Stevens + filler

http://www.indiansprospectinsider.com/2008/12/indians-set-to-acquire-mark-di-rosa.html

by mikebrownz26 on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

This I could live with

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

yea, depending on what ‘filler’ means. I assume it isn’t Laff, Huff or Atom.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

based on the last go around of Peavy rumors

I’d imagine that they’d want an upper level arm, so Huff could be in the mix as a mid-end of the rotation type lefty for San Diego. Just something to keep in mind.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

but Stevens would be considered the ‘filler’ IMO, in a deal incl. Huff.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

just speculating

but maybe chicago wants to ask san diego who they prefer?

or maybe this is getting leaked out to see if a better offer can come up?

I understand your point, but it’s not as if Huff is that much of a standout prospect that would demanding that much attention (although maybe I’m going to get the wrath of Indians fans for saying that). He’s a nice mid-end of the rotation lefty, valuable, but not someone that may necessarily pop up on radars. His best asset is that he’s lefty and he’s ready.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yea, the wrath is coming.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

flag

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what

I’m getting flagged for saying that?

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

we often use flag sarcastically – and not use subject lines seriously.

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it was a joke. huff is highly thought of around these here parts

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

gotcha, sorry first time here today

I like Huff, but not as much as you guys I guess.

Well, we’ll have to wait and see what the final reports are. Chicago rumors/spec suggest/indicate that this might not happen for a couple of days, to give the Peavy trade time to work itself out.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This make some sense

Stevens may fill that pen need the Padres are searching for, and add in a minor league starting caliber arm, and that does make some sense.

I will be curious if talks of a DeRosa deal getting close spurs other teams, such as the Twins, to offer something. Could be an interesting side note to follow.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

there goes my dream of stevens closing out game 7 of the world series for us…

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that’s my new dream

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

in more ways than one I take it.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No official word on this at the moment, but the Indians have traded right-hander Jeff Stevens and two minor leaguers to the Chicago Cubs for infielder Mark DeRosa. No word on who the other prospects are the Indians are giving up, but it sounds as if the deal is in fact centered around Stevens.

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He can also play 3B too. But you’d be inclined to think he’s our new 2B.

by mikebrownz26 on Dec 31, 2008 1:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Came here to mention that one of the guys people around here like (Miles) had been signed, and woo-ah. I just hope it isn’t Laffey.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Miles is a scrub. I have watched him play numerous times

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

never said I wanted him.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

he'd fill a utility role for the Cubs

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

who starts in DeRosa’s place then?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

my guess?

assuming we don’t trade him, fontenot.

although who knows, maybe Hendry tries to find another 2nd baseman.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If we make this deal, I really hate the Gutz trade.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

why's that, ooc

that was a nice deal, imo.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Don’t know what ooc means, but it would turn out that we don’t really need Valbuena.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m not sure how long he’s signed for, but DeRosa is 33 yrs old… Valbuena could use a year in AAA… This looks like a good short term solution. Depending, of course, on who we gave up.

by Wahoo25Ben on Dec 31, 2008 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

this allows Valbuena not to be rushed into the job this year, since DeRosa only has a one year left on his deal.

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

DeRosa is signed for one more year

and Valbuena needs another year to develop.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

your subject lines are giving me a headache

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

sorry, guess other sites use subject lines more regularly than you guys do. force of habit from the other sbn sites.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

… like when I appeared at the rays site.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ooc

means out of curiosity. And we wouldn’t need Valbuena THIS year, which I think was everybody’s hope anyway. Besides, Valbuena can still get time at second if DeRosa needs to play the outfield or third base or first base or wherever. This actually makes the Gutierrez trade look better in my opinion.

by jefftribe on Dec 31, 2008 1:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

this is true about his versatility, but if D-R is a short-term solution, we’d really better not be giving up much more than Stevens.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I suspect it will be an A ball arm, not someone like Huff or Lewis

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if this is for Peavy

then I doubt it’s an A level arm. If It’s not, then maybe. But the Cubs specifically didn’t want to part with Sean Marshall in a Peavy deal, and the Padres wanted ready arms instead, which the Cubs are thin with at the top.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Just an FYI, if we gave up Huff and Stevens, that would be a more fair deal for Roberts than for DeRosa

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that would be too much for Roberts too.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Roberts is going to cost more

than Huff/Stevens, IMO. A lot more. A lot of teams would go after a top of the order, 2nd baseman.

Okay, let me rephrase, I think Baltimore would want a lot more, and I think other teams would offer more than a mid-end of the rotation lefty prospect and a pen arm for Roberts.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

No chance.

Hard to find players more valuable than a pre-arb quality starter.

by jhon on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

put it this way

Maybe you guys are right, but my guess is that Baltimore wouldn’t do that deal if it was offered to them.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s hard to figure those guys out

by jhon on Dec 31, 2008 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

My honest 2 cents, since I'm not an O's fan

is that, if Shapiro could’ve netted Roberts for Huff/Stevens, then he would’ve done it in a second. As valuable as a mid-end of the rotation lefty like Huff may be, you net two potential picks for Roberts and you already have Valbuena in line at 2nd base.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Picks are a fickle mistress.

by fwembt on Dec 31, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Ok, let me rephrase it then, if we were going to trade a higher level ceiling guy like Huff, it wouldn’t be ina deal for DerRosa, but rather in a deal for Roberts (or Peavy for that matter).

No way Shapiro gives up 2-3 high ceiling prospects for Derosa, just so the Cubs can flip him for Peavy. Shapiro would just flip those prospects to the Padres instead.

Best guess, you get one quality prospect, Stevens, that you can flip for Peavy. You’ll have to find others from different sources.

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

we'll have to wait and see

but we didn’t need Stevens as a pen asset to do a deal with San Diego. We have more than enough pen assets that are similar to Stevens level.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

like getting Mills from us for D-Lee.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if the Cubs

don’t want to give up Marshall for Peavy, than I doubt we’d want to (or would) give up Huff for DeRosa.

by jefftribe on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

a lot of teams were rumored to want DeRosa badly

Now, I don’t think he’s going to break the bank, but the amount of interest in DeRosa may spur a better return than the years remaining would suggest.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Shap won’t fall into that trap.

Hey, I should be a poet.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

so does he play 2B or 3B?

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

he can handle both

and he was actually a pretty solid OF this year, albeit, small sample size.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

right. i think he will end up playing all of the above for us. i just wonder where he Starts to start the year…

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

gotta be second base.

by jefftribe on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

honest guess?

I’d guess 2nd, because long term, I still think Peralta would move to 3rd. I know BA or BP speculated on Peralta at 2nd, but eh, I doubt it. That way, Valbuena slides in when he’s ready.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Peralta is 300% more likely to play 3B than 2nd

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

2008 CHC RF 38 32 266 72 72 0 0 0 1.000  2008 CHC LF 27 21 185 39 40 0 1 0 .975  2008 CHC SS 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1.000  2008 CHC 3B 22 10 114 6 36 28 2 2 .944  2008 CHC 2B 95 80 670 143 336 185 8 32 .976  2008 CHC 1B 1 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 1.000

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i tried. lol.

2008 CHC RF 38 32 266 72 72 0 0 0 1.000
2008 CHC LF 27 21 185 39 40 0 1 0 .975
2008 CHC SS 1 0 1 0 1 1 0 0 1.000
2008 CHC 3B 22 10 114 6 36 28 2 2 .944
2008 CHC 2B 95 80 670 143 336 185 8 32 .976
2008 CHC 1B 1 0 2 2 2 0 0 0 1.000

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

here's his uzr numbers

uzr per fangraphs

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Looking at the defensive stats

UZR has him as below average at 2nd base (-4.2), and above average at 3rd (2.2).

BP has has him as slightly above average at both positions, so I guess overall he’s got a solid, but unspectacular glove.

by JP_Frost on Dec 31, 2008 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that's fair

DeRosa was slightly above average last year at 2nd. I think 2nd is his best spot, but his best asset is his versatility.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

FWIW, Plus/Minus had DeRosa at -8 at second last year, and O each of the previous two years.

by ClarkM on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

OH YEA…. another great move DEROSA is a better CASEY Blake…. 21 HR plays every position bobby cox once said if he plays everyday he will win a batting title when he was with ATL… great work by Mr. Shapiro ….. the GUTZ trade still make perfect sense this just give us more time to develop our young talent

by NCTRIB on Dec 31, 2008 1:20 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Lastoria says it is done deal on his prospect insider in the comments

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Help me remember, wasn’t it a second baseman that got us Jeff Stevens in the first place?

by NickFantana on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

What was his name again?

by jhon on Dec 31, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Phrandon Billups?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Chauncey Billups?

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

sure, but my NBA knowledge won’t be able to tell u what team he plays for.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

got traded to denver for AI this past year.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

it took me a few seconds to remember who AI was.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

What’s his best position? Actually, it probably doesn’t matter because I think we’ve all agreed that the quality of our infield defense is maximized when Asdrubal is playing Short.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I have no idea what position AI plays :)

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

This..got misplaced!

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I like DeRosa, but his numbers last year are a tad inflated. He’s not a .200 ISO guy, which was a career high at 33. That normally doesn’t happen and isn’t likely to be repeated next year. His career high in homers were a result of 9 lucky homers, according to Hit Tracker.

by ClarkM on Dec 31, 2008 1:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Is it not foolish to assume Shapiro cares, even a little bit, about who San Diego wants for Peavy? I mean, the Indians aren’t trading for Peavy, so I’m like 99% sure that Shapiro is going to go after the best deal for the Indians, not the Cubs.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

any real report yet?

by NCTRIB on Dec 31, 2008 1:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

olney says 3 prospects

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s on the front page of ESPN, saying that “sources told Buster Olney”.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Check here for Lastoria’s comment that the deal is done

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

The Indians and Cubs have come to a New Year’s Eve agreement on a four-player swap that brings infielder Mark DeRosa to the Tribe.

To get the versatile DeRosa, who will likely move from second base to third, the Indians are giving up three Minor League pitchers — right-handers Jeff Stevens and Chris Archer and left-hander John Gaub.

Though the 33-year-old DeRosa played primarily at second base for the Cubs, the Indians will probably move him to third to avoid disrupting their infield. The Tribe had considered moving shortstop Jhonny Peralta to third and second baseman Asdrubal Cabrera to short.

The Indians did not have to give up a single proven Major Leaguer to acquired DeRosa, who is coming off his career-best season, because of his contract status. DeRosa is entering the final year of a three-year $13 million contract that will pay him $5.5 million in 2009. He is eligible for free agency after the season.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

< / Castro>

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don’t believe for a second that we’re gonna play DeRosa at third.

by NickFantana on Dec 31, 2008 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

if he’s more above average there than at second, why not? Mind you, I’d love to get a capable SS in our infield. Shit… maybe you’re right.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah..I think the quality of the defense is maximized with Asdrubal at SS and that only happens if DeRosa plays 2B.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

one can hope… i like my fat SS

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Gee, amazingly enough, I don’t see Huff or delaRosa in that article /sarc

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs

guess you were right. awful deal for the cubs.

by toonsterwu on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

It’s Shapiro. Be happy you got Stevens.

by fwembt on Dec 31, 2008 2:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m fine with this package.

by ClarkM on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

me too. i had a soft spot for stevens, but he’s a reliever – in the minors.

by Brick. on Dec 31, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Looks like Archer & Gaub, link

by JK in CBus on Dec 31, 2008 1:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I love the idea of getting another stick.

And I really like An. Reyes… but do we want to start the year with him as the #3 SP?

by JulioBernazard on Dec 31, 2008 1:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

we should have traded Stevens for Peavy instead. dammit.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Shapiro is really going to look foolish when Hendry trades Stevens for Peavy.

by odradek on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs

haha

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Dec 31, 2008 9:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Check out ESPN’s main MLB page.

Has anyone ever seen so much Indians there?

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

NO!

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

“lock eyes from across the room”

by macasson on Dec 31, 2008 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

this is bizarre

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 31, 2008 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

and here are Gaub‘s numbers and Archer’s, both from Lake County last year

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

100K in 64IP for Gaub..wow (he was 23, but still).

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but he was a reliever and about 2-3 years too old for the league, he’ll have to move up the ladder pretty quick to be a “real” prospect

Archer though, is still pretty young and a starter. those facts alone “could” make him more valuable in the long run.

by talonk on Dec 31, 2008 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

that’s obviously what stood out to me too.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I’m a fan of this move.

by mjschaefer on Dec 31, 2008 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

this is a great deal… fits the club house… upgrades offense… can play all over the field… and did not give up to much… this is a great move and Wedge will call him a “GRINDER” what could be better

by NCTRIB on Dec 31, 2008 1:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The bad news is that Wedge will inexplicably bench Peralta twice as often this season because he isn’t playing with the same heart as DeRosa and Carroll

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Always a good sign – the guys at Bleed Cubbie Blue hate the deal.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I have a lot of friends who are cub fans seems they are upset because… “they lost the heart and sole of their club house” and added a cancer in bradley

I think they will change their tune if they get peavy out of this

by NCTRIB on Dec 31, 2008 1:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

It seems DeRosa is a very popular man in Chicago.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

As was the other fella we took from them.

Who, per ESPN got more $$ than Lord Fuentes.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 31, 2008 1:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

At least it will smell less like fish in that clubhouse…

by Logodaedalus on Jan 2, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Okay, moratorium on the “deeeee ROOOOOOW saaaaaaaaa” chant they do in Wrigley bleachers.

by joeee on Dec 31, 2008 1:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Stevens and two nobodies for a clear upgrade at either 3B or 2B.

Not bad at all.

by mikebrownz26 on Dec 31, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

YEA… I think DeROSA brings a lot more then numbers… I know that we hear this a lot … but if he bring club house presence and can repeat his numbers this might be the steal of the offseason

Cubs fans assumed they would get LAFFEY… beucase they are egocentric and believe mid-market teams should give them whatever they want… THEY ARE THE CUBS

by NCTRIB on Dec 31, 2008 1:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

The concept of trading contracts which has a really great understanding around here is still something that is probably not well understood yet across baseball. Someone on a one year deal is just not worth giving up good players that are going to be under control for several years

by Roger Dorn on Dec 31, 2008 1:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Though the 33-year-old DeRosa played primarily at second base for the Cubs, the Indians will probably move him to third to avoid disrupting their infield. The Tribe had considered moving shortstop Jhonny Peralta to third and second baseman Asdrubal Cabrera to short.

From mlb.com.

It might just be me, but if Peralta can play an average 3B, I’d very much rather have Asdrubal and DeRosa playing their best positions, SS and 2B, respectively. Our overall defense would be a lot better.

by jakesinger777 on Dec 31, 2008 1:53 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Isn’t DeRosa better at 3B than 2B?

by JulioBernazard on Dec 31, 2008 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

YEA… I think Peralta to third is the right move… altough I am not sure JHONNY is happy about that much….. I wonder if this mean Barfield and minor leaguer for 3rd starter??

by NCTRIB on Dec 31, 2008 1:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That would have to be some minor leaguer to make that trade.

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Dec 31, 2008 9:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Man, it’s fun being a fan of a team which knows what it’s doing. We’re very spoiled.

by jefftribe on Dec 31, 2008 2:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I envy you all in Cleveland……your GM has been on quite a roll since just before the deadline.

He’s done an admirable job-every one of the players he acquired have something to offer. He fleeced the Dodgers for some nice players-I think Santana and Meleon will end up in the bigs-LaPorta and a ML ready arm, Reyes for nothing you all wanted-and all he had to do was be better than Paul Byrd, so you win that trade too-he was better than Paul Byrd.

I have seen De Rosa play when he was with the Braves and the Cubs-he’s more than adequate in the field and the man can hit. You all are going to love him. Plus he buys you time to sort out the infield.

Impressive, indeed. Kudos to Mr. Shapiro! Give him another week-he’ll have your new #3 starter.

You all have a fun team to watch, even if it doesn’t work out. But it all just might work out….great, great moves.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Dec 31, 2008 6:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs