The Indians appear to be close to signing closer Kerry Wood to a two-year contract.
Castrovince, official site.
UPDATE: 3:45 p.m. A.C. says it's down to technicalities. Shapiro to meet with reporters later this afternoon.
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UPDATE: One thing worth mentioning here. Wood is a Type A free agent, but the Indians wouldn’t lose any Draft picks if they signed him, because the Cubs didn’t offer him salary arbitration. I’ve heard the Cubs didn’t offer arbitration because Wood, who really wanted to stay in Chicago, indicated that he might accept it. ~ A.C.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because one year of Kerry Wood at ~$10MM would be such a horrible thing. Might ruin the entire franchise.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And definitely an untradeable contract. Clearly.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the Tribune Co filed for bankruptcy the other day. With that sort of crack financial analysis at their fingertips, who would have thunk it?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, why Chicago had no interest in this is the element that escapes me. Screw effective, competitively priced relievers! Who needs ’em?
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I revel in the Cubs’ failure.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
And the original LGT subthread by JK in CBus.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have a depth chart on my dry erase board, and I’m not joking about that.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 2:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should take digital pic of the dry erase board and fan shot it.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Too jumbled. It’s competing for space with my state action doctrine flowchart.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, you know the state action doctrine makes no sense (or maybe it’s just the way I teach it). Just erase that part.
Or maybe there’s a way to set up an interactive dry erase board depth chart on LGT? Jay?!
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d put one on my site but I’d expect lots of hits and some ad dollars in return.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’ll use the state action doctrine slightly less than the rule against perpetuities. Erase away.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 3:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or put a live webcam on it 24-7 as it updates.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Mixed feelings here. I’m happy about the signing, but on the other hand now I don’t get to post a Fan Shot with the title “Mourning Wood”
by Logodaedalus on Dec 9, 2008 2:33 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
First blown save.
So, July of 2010.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Even year ’pens, what you gonna do?
by JK in CBus on Dec 9, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Had anybody else been wondering why, exactly, we need to “wait for the Mets to knock over the first domino”? And what the hell that even meant?
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 2:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Mets are interested in Marte??
by Logodaedalus on Dec 9, 2008 2:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No, that’s Damaso, not Domino.
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Dec 9, 2008 2:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because the big spending team can set the market, especially in this case when they’re only willing to spend so much on a closer.
With the dearth of closers on the market and the biggest spender out of the equation it because a super depressed buyers market since the remaining clubs are in another spending bracket altogether.
by world dictator on Dec 9, 2008 2:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What I meant, actually was
1. I don’t think Kerry Wood’s value is tied all that closely to Francisco Rodriguez’s value. Wood isn’t going to get to ask for 3 years/$45MM if the Mets give Rodriguez something ridiculous like 3 years/$55MM. Seemed like commentator bloviation to me.
2. There really isn’t a dearth of closers. There are several good available options and not too many teams shopping for them, comparatively speaking.
3. Even at a higher value, Kerry Wood was likely to be within our budget and to fit our needs.
Add it up, I didn’t see a compelling reason not to strike first, other than that writers would rather write about Rodriguez and the Mets instead of Wood and the Indians.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 3:00 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I don’t know, I think the K-Rod setting the market thing makes sense to me.
by ClarkM on Dec 9, 2008 5:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood’s numbers last year were very nice. I’d be pretty happy with a Wood signing.
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 2:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If it’s a 2-year deal, then I definately like it (depending on the money of course). With Kerry Wood you always run the risk of him getting injured, so to go any higher than 2 years guaranteed could come back to haunt you. It will also allow for our youngers arms like Meloan, Miller and Stevens to get used to the majors instead of them immediately being thrown into the deep as a closer.
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 2:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I know this is a longshot, but I wonder if one of Sipp, Stevens, and/or Meloan becomes a potential trading chip?
by world dictator on Dec 9, 2008 2:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems he’s expendable if we get Wood. Raffy L and JLew as set up men. But we may want to keep bullpen depth with Wood’s health history.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wood was converted to a closer in August 2007. Since that time, his health has been just fine. Granted, it’s a small(er) sample size, but there’s a big difference between throwing a few of those nasty curves and nine innings of them.
by FredOx on Dec 9, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why sell low on Betancourt?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 9, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t advocate giving him away, but I think he’s available for the right price. That being said, I think he’s also capable of rebounding to have another solid year.
by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
of those three, I think Stevens would be the only one with much value, as both Sipp (injury) and Meloan (struggles as a starter in 2008) have questions surrounding them
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 2:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m excited. When do we sign Prior?
The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay
by Buckeye Brad on Dec 9, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I’m sorry — really, I regret that I didn’t have the willpower not to make that joke.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
with Kerry Wood, on paper, on December 9, 2008, are bullpen is freakin awesome
by ASP on Dec 9, 2008 2:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i couldn’t have imagined a better result from the winter meetings!
now if it can just be made official …
by macasson on Dec 9, 2008 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ohboyohboyohboyohboy
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 2:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
i almost made the exact same post (give or take an ohboy or two)
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno why I’m so excited. Wood isn’t so much the NEW AND SHINY that we always seem to be after as he is the kinda rusty but DAMN will he look good with a new coat ofpaint.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d be happy for some sort of reverse Eckersley effect
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 3:31 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Wood compared to Wicky and Borowski feels very NEW AND SHINY
by Roger Dorn on Dec 9, 2008 3:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so true
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Dec 9, 2008 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
just look at some highlight clips on mlb.com — that 96 MPH fastball and insane curveball will make alot of hitters look foolish
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I’m drooling. There was a clip of his 20 strikeout game floating around at some point… the last strikeout pitch was just… god, pure ownage in every sense of the word.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s still on mlb.com, they just show about 10 K’s, but you’re right, that last one is absolutely ridiculous.
That kind of movement on pitches should be illegal.
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want:
1) this to be made official
2) the Tigers to respond by making a horribly ill-advised signing/trade for a closer
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 2:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I heard the Tigers were close to getting Putz
by ASP on Dec 9, 2008 2:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but he’s too good to be horrible.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 2:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tigers have to go all in and hope for a major rebound. All their chips are on the table, the farm system is depleted, the payroll is maxed, and the group won’t be together much longer. Might as well empty it out further and see if they can be competitive.
by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How does Detroit get Putz? What do they have that Seattle wants?
by cleveland teamer on Dec 9, 2008 3:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Matt Joyce, Jeff Larish, and a third prospect were being mentioned.
by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 3:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did they at least use the title “Mourning Wood”? I mean, it would be a shame for it to go to waste… I mean, wait…
by Logodaedalus on Dec 9, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
HA!
That was good. I’ll have a bruise.
And do I have permission for “Mourning Wood” when it applies?
by Ian Casselberry on Dec 9, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A bruise on your knee?
Attribution is always appreciated, but like I said, I’d hate for it to go to waste…
by Logodaedalus on Dec 9, 2008 3:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also…if this doesn’t happen, Castrovince is dead to me (at least until the next news of a big signing that he breaks)
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 2:50 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Castrovince said back during the teahen rumor that he was going to be more careful about this kind of thing. i’m pretty confident – though, i’m not to the bottom of this thread yet, so for all i know, this could have blown up already.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, a google news search of “Kerry Wood” yields 2 articles, Castrovince’s story on mlb.com and a TSN (Canada) story sourcing Castrovince.
That’s it.
/yikes!/
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i too am excited for this…
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Dec 9, 2008 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Something like 2/$20MM with some kind of $12MM option for 2011 (vesting/club)?
That’d be fantastic.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 2:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is probably a bit low. I hadn’t read about the $14MM vesting option on K-Rod’s contract until a minute ago.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m guessing $22M/2 + 2011 option @12M.
by KevinV on Dec 9, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. That is probably more accurate.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 3:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I like I like I like.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:07 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Ya know, there is the off chance that this is a guy. It’s also the #1 result for “vote kerry sticker”.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thats not a guy
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 3:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think so either. I think it was just me worried that I was photoshopping a man’s ass. She’s carrying a purse-kinda-thing with J-Lew emblazoned on it, so let’s hope its not a guy :).
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s no moon. That’s a space station.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
me too
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There is something terribly wrong with you, then.
by Voltaire on Dec 9, 2008 7:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah dude, these are genuinely pretty funny.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Logo’s comment below was funny. Emil backed it up nicely. Fleerdon made me laugh out loud and release a fart when I read his comment atop this chain. I find that funny things are happening everywhere, but this comic is not one of them.
Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF
by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If you find this one not funny, potentially understandable. I was shocked by your statement that all were not funny.
by Voltaire on Dec 9, 2008 8:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
See “trying to hard to be smart” discussion in the thanksgiving thread.
I actually legitimately flagged this post, because I wanted to point out that xkcd comics are:
1. Drawn poorly (hence he intentionally does exclusively stick figures, until recently he has tried to do more but is failing miserably. Hell, physics/math majors couldn’t possibly have spent the right amount of time in a studio to master this crap anyway, it’s arrogance to assume he could be as practice as someone like Brad Neely, and if he didn’t study physics/math then his content would’nt be so…)
2. Terrible. His jokes just purely aren’t funny. You can cream yourself if you get the wikipedia/WiReD science reference, but if you don’t get it, you fail.
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t go in for the tech geek ones so much, because they draw on extremely specific knowledge, but the ones that draw on more general nerddom are often pretty funny. The one I posted isn’t a shining example (no pun intended, for real) — it just happened to be relevant.
I don’t actually think that he’s “trying to be smart” in any sort of pretentious way — he just happens to be part of a nerdy world (as do most in his target audience), and taps into that shared reference frame to make often (but not always) funny strips. Of course even Gary Larson and Bill Watterson weren’t funny all the time — and for the record I am not putting Randall Munroe into the same category as those guys, just using them as a gold standard.
And I don’t think it’s reasonable to hold every artist (whatever their medium) to the standard that they must try to appeal to everyone all the time. Sometimes it’s okay to be in a niche.
Anyway, I’d rather not rehash this same discussion in a different context. Especially not in this thread-of-good-feeling (speaking of people named Mo/unroe?) Better to agree to disagree on this one, methinks.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 12:21 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with Logo on this. It’s not the cartoonists’ fault that his work has become popular enough to reach an audience that doesn’t get the jokes. Lord knows only a very tiny percent of the population would have the slightest idea what we’re talking about here at LGT.
by Jay on Dec 10, 2008 12:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta agree with Logo on this.
::falls down::
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 1:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It still has that competitive nerd whiff of giving a shit about who is smart and who isn’t. Yeah, like Logo said – it’s the same thing with music. I’ll fight this battle too far, so I’ll stop here.
Except points 1 and 2 (aside from the nerd-humor, which I will never find funny, like his little “love=cos(loneliness) + alpha crap” or whatever sentimental posts, still stand. I mean seriously, he goes for ironically sparse because his drawings suck so bad…
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He has no pretense that the drawings themselves are any good…that’s not really the focus. There are plenty of musicians who can’t play more than a handful of basic chords on the guitar, but who still manage to write pretty good songs.
One might say that by demanding intricate drawings you’re requiring a certain level of structural complexity in your art… counter to what you were saying before about music.
Anyway, seriously, I respect your right not to like XKCD. I happen to like much of it.
LGNST!
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 1:34 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t demand intricacy. I demand skill. Totally unrelated. Counter to nothing. Speaking of a guy who isn’t overly intricate but is talented out the wazooo….
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 1:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But do you demand skill at playing an instrument in your musicians? Isn’t it sometimes good enough to be skilled at writing songs, and just using the instrument as a minimal support? I would argue that R.M. is skilled at writing (a certain kind of) comics, just not at drawing, as far as we can tell.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 1:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine a musician going for a riff and just whiffing – unintentionally – sucking. You know by now how anti-showing off I am with music (and art). But I still want my piano players to not hit the wrong notes when they want to hit the right ones. That’s my beef with xkcd.
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 1:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see stick figures as wrong notes… more like… C pentatonic major… or something.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 1:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, the comic above is mediocre/bad, and not representative of his usually golden work. At least in my opinion.
by Voltaire on Dec 10, 2008 2:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You should see the “comics” he posted of his “good drawings” – some of which he claims he drew in high school (it shows) – they are laugh out loud terrible. Like a high school art student trying to look deep but not knowing how to shade or forgetting to pick up his pencil. He sucks, flat-out. By the way, Brad Neely and South Park both have pretty simple animation. But both are pretty good.
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 1:41 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps credit to him for realizing that “good drawings” weren’t his strength — the comics were. Though his high school drawings are certainly better than I could do (which is why I don’t).
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 1:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not entirely sure what he’s done to draw so much of your ire, but the comics are not supposed to look good. He can’t draw. He knows it. His audience knows it. The drawings aren’t the point. The jokes and the stories are the focus. I guess if you’re not part of the “nerd culture” then most of the jokes won’t hit you, which is fine, but trust me when I say that as a former physics major many of the nerdy jokes he makes are god-danged hilarious; they just have a high level of prerequisite knowledge. It’s not being pretentious, it’s being niche.
by Voltaire on Dec 10, 2008 2:45 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hm, well I still am a science major, and I even: get this: UNDERSTAND THE REFERENCES! Still not laughing.
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 12:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joeee’s pretty w/ at da physics.
Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF
by jhon on Dec 10, 2008 1:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good. pretty good.
Can’t argue taste too far though, Joeee.
I’m going to be more disciplnied about scaling down the images that I’m moved to post, which makes these less “in your face”. Nickjs posted a handy code for making scale adjustments. This comic, as obscure as it is, doesn’t need to be so prominent, nor does anything I’ve every posted.
Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF
by jhon on Dec 10, 2008 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. I didn’t know how to scale it down ’til now. Sorry.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No need for you to feel sorry. I reject sorry.
Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF
by jhon on Dec 10, 2008 1:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right, regretted hitting post on that one. Just delete it.
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Hello, Cleveland! We’re Competitiv Nerd Whiff! We’re here to rock you! Intelligently!
by woodsmeister on Dec 10, 2008 9:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If y’all are interested in a really funny dude who is good at art, check out Brad Neely (not appropriate for work).
Neely got big with a youtube video (Washington, Washington) and started drawing for Adult Swim – then got hired by South Park. Very funny guy. Check him out.
by joeee on Dec 10, 2008 1:38 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
rec for pointing out an obvious abbreviation for logosaltamacchia
by Brick. on Dec 10, 2008 10:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I think the best version is Logodaedalamacchiazinksiulanek.
by Jay on Dec 10, 2008 2:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly time to change my ID again. To that.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But we all like Wondermark, right? Please?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 10, 2008 9:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I reade it on my computing machine twice weeklye.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well then that guy has a pretty nice ass.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 9, 2008 3:20 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i share your appreciation for that dude’s can.
by emil minty on Dec 9, 2008 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
minty green.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The Todd appreciates hotness regardless of gender. </Scrubs reference>
by Fundamentals on Dec 9, 2008 5:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think i’m more worried than excited.
by emil minty on Dec 9, 2008 3:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have to go take a Calc III final exam. When I get out of it Kerry Wood had better be a Cleveland Indian.
by Voltaire on Dec 9, 2008 3:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
good luck
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Dec 9, 2008 3:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
only if you can successfully give me the second partial derivatives of f and the discriminant:
D = fxxfyy – (fxy)^2
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Is the answer 3/$25m?
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 3:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Psh. Jacobians? Big deal.
I just took the hardest test (3 hours ago) of my life, by far. A room full of NU math majors + TA laughing out loud.
by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 4:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TI-89.
Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.
by gte619n on Dec 9, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The TI-89 is your savior.
Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.
by gte619n on Dec 10, 2008 8:51 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joel Sherman says the Mets and K-Rod have agreed to terms on a 3-year 37MM deal. If that’s any indication of Wood’s price then I guess a 2-year 24MM deal with a 13MM option perhaps could be what’s he’s getting.
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 3:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
CastroTurf:
UPDATE No. 2 (3:30 p.m. ET): This thing is legit. I’m hearing it’s two years and an option and could be done as soon as today (though, obviously, Wood would have to go through a physical and paperwork and all that fun stuff). Wood’s agent isn’t talking to the press today, so any on-the-record information would have to come from the Indians. Shapiro is having his daily session with reporters in a few hours.
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 3:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
this presser better be on indians.com
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and, that’s what i wanted to see when i got down here.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 3:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that’s the funniest application of that joke I’ve heard in a long time
by cleveland teamer on Dec 9, 2008 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i was fishing for “wood” something, but this was even better.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone remember to wake up Hoynes for all of this?
by millionairesrow on Dec 9, 2008 3:54 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
This whole “getting the FA we want” thing has made me drunk with the possibilities.
Kerry Wood! Adam Dunn! Derek Lowe! Rafael Furcal!
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 3:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think I’ve ever said this, but I feel “giddy.”
by RD74 on Dec 9, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you drunk with possibilities or just plain drunk?
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 3:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That comes after dinner. But you bet your ass I’m celebrating the Indians Doing Something (Awesome).
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i know he’s an expensive injury risk, but i would love to see us sign furcal. i don’t even care if we get another starter if we do that.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 4:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eek. I think the Indians are better off with Marte at 3B and signing/trading for a legit starter than vice versa.
by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t get the Indians site to load for the life of me
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 3:59 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
KLaw-
A source with Cleveland indicated that the Indians are still “actively engaged in the closer market” but haven’t settled on one player or finalized a deal yet. There have been reports the team is close to reaching an agreement with free-agent righty Kerry Wood.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 4:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
what does this mean what does this mean what does this mean
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It means that the Indians are tight lipped and will not admit to anything until they, well, admit to it.
by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i’m choosing to read that as “the indians might sign two closers, including wood”
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 4:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We already have like 4.
Oh, current.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
tell me this is from early this morning tell me this is from early this morning tell me this is from early this morning tell me this is from early this morning
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
or
tell me shap is messing with law’s head tell me shap is messing with law’s head tell me shap is messing with law’s head tell me shap is messing with law’s head tell me shap is messing with law’s head
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude.
Underwood and Castrovince, the guys who are right there, vs. Law.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can’t find a timestamp, but it’s the second most recent post on the ESPN Winter Meetings blog, probably from about 3:30PM EST
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 4:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sitting in my Investments class, I feel like I’m probably the most relaxed guy here, really.
by vegaswatch on Dec 9, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
When I say “chillax” I really mean stop riling me up.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently Peter Bendix is there, too, as spotted by Will Carroll. Why PB is not reporting any news to the LGT community is beyond me. Irresponsible, frankly. He should know some people over here are getting apoplectic by now.
by cleveland teamer on Dec 9, 2008 4:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I should’ve gone this year. I could have paid for the whole trip at the blackjack table.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think you can just show up and find work as a dealer, Jay.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Definitely not, my hands are terrible with cards. Which is odd, considering I play piano and can type very quickly.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming this goes through, the site banner should be changed to:
“We’ve got Wood!”
This is a bottomless well of humor.
by KevinV on Dec 9, 2008 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow. I can’t believe this is happening.
Real free agents! Real live free agents!
by afh4 on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
How do you like them apples, Cleveland.com?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry Tyler. What I mean is I don’t want this beautiful thread sullied with any quotes.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing quotable, except maybe for the Apollo-missions-were-a-hoax type dude who thinks this isn’t happening.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 4:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is great news. I figured Cleveland would settle on Hoffman instead, but getting Wood on a two year plus option is so much better. Excellent, excellent move not to settle for the (supposedly) cheaper option. Also! the fact that we made the first move when the Mets were supposed to be running things is pretty cool, too.
When was the last time we had a closer who could hit 95 MPH on the radar gun? Rick Vaughn?
by Pronk33 on Dec 9, 2008 4:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
John Rocker
Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.
by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
oh snaps
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
WRONG
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the phrase you are going for is TOO LATE (we already made that mistake)
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
but no, Fausto is the correct answer
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 5:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Amen. This would be a much sexier signing than Hoffman.
by cleveland teamer on Dec 9, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fausto Carmona
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think that’s a winner.
Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.
by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ohboyohboyohboyohboyohboyohboy
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 4:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Is cubbie nation pooping themselves with regret right now??
by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 4:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but when have the Cubs every cared about draft picks?
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love how we’re basically gamethreading a contract. Contractthreading?
by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 4:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s the new wave of threads.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to go rehab my left shoulder (broken collarbone) during pauses in my finals. This thread has delayed me 20 mins.
by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If we sign Adam Dunn, LGT is going to crash the entire SBN network.
by Pronk33 on Dec 9, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Cubs fan here
If this is true, you are going to love having Kerry Wood on your staff. Although he has had injury problems in the past, he is loyal and will try to help the club win as many games as possible.
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 4:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
he always struck me as loyal – where he gave them discounts for his missed injury time.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 4:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He would have come back to the Cubs, but the whole situation is extremely ambiguous
I’m sure he will close for yall. Plus, he can beat up on the White Sox!
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So you’re saying he’s a hard worker and we will love him?
I actually believe this one.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yup
I think his injury problems are a thing of the past. He’s a steal..
"Charles Tillman is one of the best strippers in the NFL" - John Madden 11/30/08 Chicago Bears vs. Minnesota Vikings game
by Chanman25 on Dec 9, 2008 4:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You had me at “beat up on the White Sox.”
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I am f’ing giddy. HOT DAMN PEOPLE.
I never really explained why I was so high on a Wood signing. One, I felt relative to the unreasonable FA market, he would be reasonable. Two, huge upside with his raw stuff, quite beyond the vast majority of relievers. Three, we have the depth of fireballers to handle losing him to an injury — it wouldn’t kill us. We are in a good position to sign a high risk/reward closer, and Wood is most definitely that guy.
I can’t even believe it’s really happening, that’s how good of an idea I think it is.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
you know its good when Jay’s in caps
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There are just small handful of times when I think I know — really know — what the Indians should do and actually will do, and then it actually turns out to be right. I knew what kind of deal they’d give Westbrook, and I knew they’d trade Coco for something (though I didn’t know what). Like I said, it doesn’t happen often. I am really psyched.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Just searched it.
It’s funny, when you search for Kerry Wood and Adam Miller you get a lot of comments from much earlier painting a bleak picture every time Miller gets another injury.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 4:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I’ll play …
Here’s from three weeks ago … and be sure to click the “up” button to see who really owns this.
Now this is really impressive … here’s Dean from 28 months ago.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have not been keeping up with my BOOO Thome’s
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I still think he’s the right target, even ahead of K-Rod. I just need to see the price before I digest it. That the signing is only for two years (if reports are true) makes me care less about the price.
Job well done, Tribe.
by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 5:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
recced it.
Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.
by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 6:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s like Christmas in ….December!!
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
you turkeys will regret thiss he an injury risk and DOLAN IS CHEAP wedgiro loverz
by cclemens31 on Dec 9, 2008 4:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously a fake. Not enough grammatical errors or stupidity.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 4:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I tried, but my head hurt with the additional intentional errors.
by cclemens31 on Dec 9, 2008 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it was the unnecessary double ‘s’ that i couldn’t get past. he seems like someone who’s careful to type as flawlessly as he’s aware of, which in reality, is flawful (sic).
note: if flawless can be a word, why not flawful?
You know Selig? Ombudsman.
by rolub on Dec 9, 2008 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sorry this slipped through the cracks.
by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 9:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it’s tough keeping up with you as it is these days.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a whole other language there at cleveland.com…hard to read and even harder to replicate.
by cclemens31 on Dec 9, 2008 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Off topic and all but…If Boston signs Tex, does that make Lowell expendable? And if so, are we interested in trading for him?
by RD74 on Dec 9, 2008 4:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
it would cost a catcher for sure.
One of these days... bang, zoom, straight to the moon...
by mixmasterasia on Dec 9, 2008 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been holding back, but since we have Pending Significant Acquisition Euphoria, I think you guys can handle it …
WE ARE NOT TRADING PROSPECTS FOR VETERANS AT THE END OF THEIR CONTRACTS.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I apologize for that, feel free to delete. I feel like I ruined this whole thread.
by RD74 on Dec 9, 2008 4:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t be sorry, I’m just trying to help. We could cycle through Lowell-Beltre-Tejada-Roberts all day long, but what’s the point? We’re very unlikely to make a deal like that.
Actually, I’ll admit that Lowell seems more likely than the others, because Boston may end up just wanted to dump him, and not many teams want that salary.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It would have made more sense to re-sign Blake than to make those trades. There, I said it. It’s only not scary because it can’t happen now.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Right.
And that was basically the argument for signing Blake, to keep the Marte-hating front office from over-spending on a simulaBlake.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 4:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just cracked up at the idea of Wedge rolling a mannequin out to third base because the front office sprung for SimuBlake. Clearly I’ve been working too hard.
DISCLAIMER: I may be bitter.
by zempf on Dec 9, 2008 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m in that moment when you just learn some good news and you want to keep hearing more about this good news so you can’t do anything else
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 4:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I’m dividing my time between pitching one inning at a time with Kerry Wood as an Indian on Mvp baseball and smoking cigarettes.
Give us the words Shap — we got him!
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 4:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
+1
This is bad, because I have two finals tonight.
by bewwolv on Dec 9, 2008 5:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If it’s two years and an option, I like it a lot. Head hurts from writing about Original Issue Discount.
by ClarkM on Dec 9, 2008 5:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I want to see a Miller/Meloan/Wood fastball contest.
2009 Cleveland Indians – Bringing the heat.
Don't be stupid. PUT IN MELOAN.
by gte619n on Dec 9, 2008 5:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It’s Kerry Wood’s nasty curve that gets my heart racing, to be honest. Really, watch the highlights of the 20 K game. The curve is scary, and an inning at a time decreases the risk that his arm will fly off and hit Pedroia in the head.
by FredOx on Dec 9, 2008 5:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
his arm will fly off and hit Pedroia in the head.
I suppose that every cloud comes with a silver lining.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 5:15 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Curveball+Fastball to Pedroia equals this:
by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 5:16 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
now that’ll be balling
Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.
by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 5:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like this guy more by the second.
i don’t remember seeing that clip before. were those directed at Ozzie?
by RD74 on Dec 9, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Does it matter? It was the White Sox.
One has to wonder if pitching more against the White Sox was part of the appeal.
by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He and Cliffy are going to have a great time together.
by dgcambridge on Dec 9, 2008 6:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
This is how the rec’d posts read if you put them all together:
Mixed feelings here. I’m happy about the signing, but on the other hand now I don’t get to post a Fan Shot with the title "Mourning Wood". I can get behind this. I share your appreciation for that dude’s can. Now THATS what she said. Did someone wake up Hoynes for all this? I don’t think you can just show up and find work as a dealer, Jay. It’s like Christmas in ….December!!
by APV on Dec 9, 2008 7:59 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I like it.
"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter
by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
looks like something andrew would say. or tyler on gin.
by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 8:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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