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Walter_tiny by Jay on in News Comment 371 comments

All indications are the the Indians are on the verge of announcing a two- or three-year deal with Kerry Wood, who no doubt would be anointed the closer immediately.  Paul Hoynes reported this morning that the Indians met twice with Wood's agent on the first day of Winter Meetings, while both the AP's Tom Withers and MLB.com's Anthony Castrovince have both reported in the last hour that the deal is almost done.

John Perrotto of Baseball Prospectus reports that the Indians have already signed off on Wood's medical report — a critical milestone for a cautious organization signing a pitcher with a significant injury history.  (Hat-tip: xrickx.)  Sweetening the deal, the Tigers were reportedly interested in Wood, too.

Most relievers, even very good ones and closers, are failed starters — that is, they didn't have good enough stuff or enough effective pitches to succeed as a starting pitcher.  Not so with Wood, a truly dominating pitcher who is tied with Roger Clemens for the one-game nine-inning strikeout record, with 20.

Wood switched the bullpen after failing for years to stay healthy while pitching out of the rotation.  Last season, he had a rocky start on Opening Day but went on to post a 2.89 ERA over the rest of the season, while stranding 10 of 12 inherited runners.  He collected 34 saves in 38 opportunities, and even more important, he struck out a staggering 84 batters in just 66 innings, while walking only 18.

Wood has the second-highest career strikeout rate of all time, behind only Randy Johnson.  No, seriously, he does.  That mark is mostly based on his 10.25 K/9 as a starter, but over 100-odd innings as a reliever over the past four seasons, it's an even better 10.96 K/9, and last season it was 11.40 K/9.

Wood stands to become the Indians' most significant free agent signing since Chuck Finley in 2000.  Granted, that isn't saying a hell of a lot, but still.

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Ah great flick.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one of my faves

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 5:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How’s that for a slice of fried gold?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YEAAAAH, BOYYY

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 5:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

another source saying it’s close:

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-woodindians120908&prov=yhoo&type=lgns&expire=1

by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 5:24 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

incentive to use the link feature

by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or highlight —≥ go to link in new window

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

…meaning a physical would come before any announcement.
two years with a club or vesting option for a third year
One factor apparently working in the Indians’ favor, according to the source, is their impending move from their spring-training home in Winter Haven, Fla., to a new facility in Goodyear, Ariz. Wood’s off-season home is in Arizona.

by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Finally, the Goodyear facility pays off!

by cheech99 on Dec 9, 2008 5:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks for that Jay, I messed up the link.

when is Shapiro’s daily press conference?

by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“the Indians’ most significant free agent signing since Chuck Finley in 2000”

I’m taking it that, though, that crazy Tawny Kitaen does not come along with the deal, though.

Wood’s Wikipedia page already has him close to an agreement with us.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 5:30 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did you update it?

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 5:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sadly, no. As you can see, I haven’t even learned how to use the block quote function.

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 5:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Chuck Finley reference was off the top of my head, but I think it’s correct. I’m counting this as more significant than Paul Byrd or Ellis Burks or Juan-Gon.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 5:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Juan Gone was kind of big…but since it was for a year, I guess I can see this being bigger.

by Voltaire on Dec 9, 2008 7:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or, rather, bigger than FInley

by Voltaire on Dec 9, 2008 7:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Everyone always forgets Marty Cardova.

by dgcambridge on Dec 9, 2008 7:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Darn it. Used the subject line. Sorry.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Dec 10, 2008 1:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, but we get a ton of White Snake albums fresh from the cut out bin.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 5:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Peter Gammons just said that he didn’t think Adam Dunn could find a contending team to pay him 8 mil a year. Am i crazy or is that not really all that much depending on the years? Pleading ignorance here. And some major Adam Dunn love.

Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 5:31 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s really not a lot of money. Casey Blake signed for under $3M less.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is totally bizarre. We would be crazy not to sign him for that amount.

I understand that he only hit .236, but how can you ask a guy to sign a one-year make-good contract when he’s hit 40 bombs for five years in a row?

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 5:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess batting average can be a good stat as long as your trying to sign Adam Dunn. Or maybe it only drives Peter Gammons away. He could have misspoke i guess considering it was on TV and supposedly live.

Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A batting average that low is a problem, period. Any good measure you use will exhibit that same problem.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 5:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course. It just fades a bit with some more useful stats around it.

Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 5:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m trying to think of a “Wood+Dunn=Wooden” joke, but I can’t.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I figured you WooDunn be able to.

Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 5:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

do it do it do it

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 5:37 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I always thought this was a possibility (that Dunn would be way undervalued). I never guessed 8 mil/yr though. I really hope Shap is all over this.

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 5:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sign him, then at that price, trade him to a team that realizes what a deal we got — for an impact SP. Such as Cain or Lincecum.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You do know that’s not possible, right?

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 7:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Because there’s a period before you can trade a guy or because Bavasi isn’t running a team?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 8:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The first, but you can trade him if you have his permission.

by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 9:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sooooooo your saying theres a chance!

by hans on Dec 9, 2008 7:07 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we play the cubs at wrigley this year.

by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:43 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Footnote Stevens

rec

by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha seriously, that’s my all-time favorite nickname for jeff stevens

by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 5:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if he becomes a closer does he become an endnote?

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bleach: The Anti-Green.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A c-note.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 7:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sipp would seem good enough, especially with his ability to also get righthanders out. If he can stay healthy next year, we should see him in the pen somewhere along the line

by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 5:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Stomp Mujica? Because I keep thinking Paul Byrd.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOLY F*CK.

My bad.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait why is it Stomp?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I not involved in a meme?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is interesting

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Earliest I can remember using it, though there might be comment on Paul’s site that ante-dates that one. I think it had something to do with his leg kick, but mostly I just liked the ring of it.

Mujica I omitted only by oversight. Shoot, Mujica was a hotshot prospect not too terribly long ago.

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I’m pretty sure Paul got it from you and adopted it. I kind of adopted Atom Miller as reciprocity.

He’s got some douchey commenter who claims to have invented Big League Choo.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 6:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought I came up with Big League Choo…but I could very easily be lying. I also think I’m president of Tobago (but not Trinidad).

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Tyler did coin Stomp, and it’s really grown on me. The BLC is superb and I think the origin did go to LGT along with Dellichaels, regardless of what (as you say) “some douchey commenter” thinks.

As an aside, isn’t it great that everyone’s this giddy that we’re just throwing around the joy on everyone?

by The DiaTriber on Dec 9, 2008 7:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe I can claim Fat Shortstop.

How original, huh?

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Dec 10, 2008 1:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I came up with Pronk.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 10, 2008 1:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really? Let’s find it. My brother uses Fat Shortstop all the time, and he’s almost never here.

by Jay on Dec 10, 2008 1:54 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

http://www.letsgotribe.com/2007/8/21/182143/299#3205706

First usage here on LGT. In 2007.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Dec 10, 2008 1:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

First usage here.

Rare case of a nickname simply being proposed and accepted. We just started using it all the time after that. Jensen and Rafael were Stomp & Steel, etc.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 6:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right, as opposed to the “16 Tons” references, that I had to work like hell to get to stick. I don’t think they took off until Paul started carrying the standard.

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Taking off” being kind of a relative concept in this application.

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But Paul regularly gets them backwards.

BTW, neither Clemens nor Wood holds the single-game strkeout record. That record belongs to Tom Cheney (21). Kerry (we’re on a first-name basis now) and Clemens hold the 9-inning record.

by SuddenSam on Dec 9, 2008 6:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is true…you have no idea how many times I have to sing the song to myself and still screw it up.

by The DiaTriber on Dec 9, 2008 7:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has DoorMatt stuck yet?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hope not. We can do better.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Dec 10, 2008 1:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

:-(

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 10, 2008 3:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m still pushing The Gatekeeper

by The DiaTriber on Dec 10, 2008 1:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I quit on the nicknames after coming up with K-brera. It’s best if I observe

by Roger Dorn on Dec 9, 2008 11:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dude are you for real?

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 5:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I should have tried to match them all up. I just tried to think of who would be Stomp.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sipp-y Cup?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Considered it, actually. But, I mean, why?

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well… why not?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha, Phil, I am not calling a grown man “sippy cup” without a very, very good reason.

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I may be young, but I have yet to come across a better reason to do things than “why not?”

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tony Sipprano?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs


Tony S[ip]parano.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha, what the hell are you people reccing? It’s the pitchers in the bullpen. Do we just like “Footnote” that much for He Who Has Two Christian Names?

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 9:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tony “Big Gulp” Sipp ?

by KevinV on Dec 9, 2008 11:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I first thought of Sizzurp, but quickly realized that’s just not gonna fly.

It’s hard to nickname a guy—especially a reliever—when we don’t yet know how he compliments the team. In due time.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 11:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha, I kinda like Sizzurp.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 11:19 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trust me on this one, it’s not a suitable nickname. I bring it up only to get it off the table preemptively.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 11:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somebody order pancakes I just sip the sizzurp.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 11:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fair enough. I chuckled though.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 11:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“There is no close. You either have a deal or you don’t,” said Chris Antonetti, Indians assistant general manager, when asked if they were close to doing a deal with Wood.

by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:48 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s like he’s Shap’s clone. Awesome.

by Voltaire on Dec 9, 2008 7:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At first glance I thought he was making a reference to “The Close,” then I realized no one actually talks like that in real life….

by Pronk33 on Dec 9, 2008 9:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah I was thinking noun instead of adjective too.

“There is no close. There is only Brodzoski.”

by cleveland teamer on Dec 9, 2008 9:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

me too.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 10:06 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“There is no close. You either have a deal or you don’t,” said Chris Antonetti

Antonetti is now channeling Yoda.

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 5:48 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll forgive this quote for being late because I’ve never seen a link inside a quote box.

Either way I choose to think this means Yes.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

zz
I’ve never seen a link inside a quote box.

I was just thinking inside the box for a change

But Antonetti just seems to be following the company line of there is no deal until we say there is (nd he may have enjoyed stiffing Hoynes on confirmation of the rumor).

That being said, can someone confirm that “Empire Strikes Back” is on the Bellagio’s pay per view menu?

"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.

by Harry Doyle on Dec 9, 2008 5:57 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So I guess this is why Mastny got sold to Japan?

by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 5:58 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That and he had a trout arm.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 5:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t let it die!

by still ill on Dec 9, 2008 6:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think we just didn’t have room for him. we were going to add someone, eventually. see tyler’s list above.

by Brick. on Dec 9, 2008 5:59 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way I can totally picture bictor jumping into Wood’s loving arms after the last strikeout, the pile-on seconds away, me screaming at the tv. Wood=championship baby.

by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 6:12 PM EST reply reply actions actions   1 recs

F yeah

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh Bictor

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 9:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s how my 7th grade Spanish teacher taught me how to pronounce “Victor”

by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 11:45 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if we believe that the tigers were a contender, i’m interested in hearing what premium we’re paying over their offer. have to assume they weren’t lowballing it.

by emil minty on Dec 9, 2008 6:13 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

From John Perotto on BP’s unfiltered updates: (free content)

The Indians have signed off on Kerry Wood’s medical report and will likely announce the signing of the free-agent right-hander either today or Wednesday.

by xrickx on Dec 9, 2008 6:18 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

celebration hour is nearing

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really want to crack this Christmas Ale.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you can do it,,,there’s five others waiting in reserve

by hans on Dec 9, 2008 7:12 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I can’t remember when we ever had such a unanimous outpouring of joy at a transaction.
A fantastic move.

by dgcambridge on Dec 9, 2008 6:24 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t think we’ve had Chuck weigh in on this yet

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Chuck will like it. It won’t be beyond the Indians’ means, and I think Wood will pass Chuck’s warrior sniff-test.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 6:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah he flipped BOTH birds after all. Dude’s a fighter.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 7:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

actual lol here.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2nd wood pic i’ve saved today. plus the one i made.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:30 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Some one will come in as the contrarian. There’s risk here, and that person can then be the greatest I-told-you-so in the site’s brief history.

by dgcambridge on Dec 9, 2008 6:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like they said, Chuck hasn’t been here yet.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah here comes Brandini right now…

by hans on Dec 9, 2008 7:13 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s not happening.

by Ryan on Dec 9, 2008 8:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

There’s a comparable injury risk for K-Rod and Hoffman too, so what. We just got the best reliever on the market, I think you’d have to try really hard to find fault with this signing.

by Pronk33 on Dec 9, 2008 9:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kerry is kind of a girlie name. So, there.

by FredOx on Dec 9, 2008 9:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kerry and Kelly.

The prettiest girls at the prom.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 9:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Lotta heart in Cleveland." - Ian Hunter

by Denver Tribe Fan on Dec 9, 2008 9:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree, and there’s a part of me that’s glad we didn’t sign Hoffman after he snubbed our high bid last time around. I mean, I’m not mad at him, but you just can’t let the organization be someone’s bitch like that. It’s bad for morale.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 10:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, I’ll take the bait: Durability. This guy could break down by May. Especially if Wedge sees only one button on the bullpen control panel. Wood has been fragile with the Cubs since Dusty flogged him.

I could see stretches this season where he is not available for a week or ten days. And that’s if the Indians are lucky.

by odradek on Dec 10, 2008 11:40 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe we get a Papelbon-Okajima kinda thing with Wood and JLew…?

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 10, 2008 12:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m still way more confident in Perez than Lewis.

by Brick. on Dec 10, 2008 12:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s because Perez is a lot better.

by ClarkM on Dec 10, 2008 4:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m still kind of wigging. How could the market be allowing this to happen?

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 6:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m this close to buying a 40 of PBR tonight

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve still got a more than a six of Christmas Ale left.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 6:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fifth of glen fiddich

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pondering a Boodles run. During exam week.

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh man. I’m sticking with lots and lots of coffee until Friday.
Next week, though…

by still ill on Dec 9, 2008 6:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sure this is common knowledge, but what is boodles?

Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 6:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gin. They don’t advertise, so it’s a word of mouth thing. Takes a decent liquor store to find it, though it’s not expensive.

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 6:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Really good stuff. Discovered it late in college.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 6:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks guys, I’ll have to give it a try.

Don't forget to pay your parking ticket.

by TheVanillaGorilla on Dec 9, 2008 6:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We all drink really well here by these last three comments.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think that’s been an established fact

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you know considering Wood’s a Texas guy I’m switching to Shiner Bock.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:53 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn. I might have to have one of my Texas friends ship me a couple of cases for the season. The 9th inning brought to you by Shiner…I love it.

Long live the Cosmo Spoetzel brewery.

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

see, now John’s does have Shiner Bock, along with Shiner everything else

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:57 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where are you that you can’t get Shiner Bock?

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 7:00 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

weird, they had it in Cincinnati

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 7:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they’ve expanded their distribution over the past decade, but not yet so far as Boston

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 7:04 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i got Anchor Special Ale but this is a much more special occasion

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anchor Special Ale? I think I’ve found my new beer of choice. It will go nicely with my leather-bound books on the awesomeness of Kerry Wood. I will set the empty bottles on my bar, which is made of rich mahogany, obv.

by tabler84 on Dec 10, 2008 12:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Word, this is my night off of studying, might hit up the sto’ for one of these babies, but they’re expensive for a college kid.

by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 6:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m going to flag myself for this comment, but quickly unflag it, because my roommate just picked me up a shiny new sixer to complement my Papa Romeo’s 9 dollar sausage pizza.

by joeee on Dec 9, 2008 8:47 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sixer of Old Dominion Baltic Porter’s the best I’m gonna do.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:31 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sometimes Iowa sucks

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why did I write sometimes …

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:34 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve got one of those big Rouge bottles, I think its Brutal Bitter. That and a few Sierra Nevada Celebration Ales will make for a nice evening.

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 6:35 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

!!!

Brutal Bitter rules. I’m jealous.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m living in my small hometown right now and found a decent beer store finally. They had a bunch of those 22 oz Rouges, and I figured I should try a few. Brutal Bitter is one of my favs.

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 6:41 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m a fan of the Dead Guy

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 6:46 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mocha Porter is excellent as well.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 6:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As redident beer guy, I am gonna have to say Celebration Ale is awesome. Brutal Bitter is OK.

All of you OH guys should be glad you can get Great Lakes Edmund Fitzgerald Porter, that one is awesome.

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by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 9:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

more like redolent beer guy, amirite

by mrich on Dec 9, 2008 9:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Residual beer guy?

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 10:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know if you can claim to be the only beer guy here.

I think the Brutal Bitter is very good: more subtle than the name suggests.

Celebration Ale is very good. My favorite of the Sierra Nevada brands I’ve tried, but I haven’t had their harvest brews.

Edmund Fitzgerald is money. But I’m a sucker for most things from GLBC. If you like the Celebration Ale from Sierra Nevada, I’d have to assume you like the Commodore Perry from Great Lakes: my favorite.

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 10:05 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you don’t have to tell me twice about Edmund Fitzgerald, its solid as a rock

by hans on Dec 10, 2008 1:50 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Have you gotten your hands on a Rogue Chipotle Ale yet?

It’s interesting, to say the least. But you really do taste the chipotle.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Dec 10, 2008 10:43 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven’t. I have had a chile beer with a whole green chile in the bottle. It was a average Corona-tasting beer, but very very spicy. I’m a fan of spicy things, so I liked it.

by DaytonDogg on Dec 10, 2008 1:10 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats on my to-drink list

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 10, 2008 1:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anything from Rogue is worthy. The XS Imperial Stout (750 mL ceramic bottle) is worthy of a World Series celebration. That reminds me, I bought a Dragon’s Milk (New Holland Brewing) 22 oz. to have on hand for when the Indians beat the Sox in 2007. God, I miss that beer—haven’t had one since.

by jds16 on Dec 9, 2008 7:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh they have your dragons’ milk on tap at my local bar currently, will drink it next time I’m there based on your glowing review

by hans on Dec 9, 2008 7:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At first I read that as a 40 pack of PBRs, and I thought “how wonderful”

by hans on Dec 9, 2008 7:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’m not in season shape

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 7:14 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, our worry early on was the Wood would get something for more years from another team. I think teams may be wising up. No one gave K-Rod 5 years.

by dgcambridge on Dec 9, 2008 6:40 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wait until we get Dunn for $9M per.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll likely be the one against that. I really hate Dunn’s K numbers.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 7:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

More than you love his HR numbers?

by fwembt on Dec 9, 2008 9:20 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea. he also hits about 220, and isn’t good with RISP unless its one of those HRs… or he’s facing Byrd.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 10:08 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

.236/.386/.513. That makes him our instant team leader in OPS. He also would have led our team in HR’s, been third in total bases, led in SLG, trailed only Choo in OBP and led in walks by 24. All of that and you don’t want him because he struck out 31 more times than Shoppach? The guy is an absolute monster whose K numbers have decreased over the last two seasons. Dunn at $9 million would be a steal.

by fwembt on Dec 9, 2008 10:17 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How’s his bunting?

by fleerdon on Dec 9, 2008 10:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When Dunn strikes out, Clubhouse Cancer forms like asbestos.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 11:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, clubhouse cancer does, and it presents a toxic danger that can be unknowingly inhaled. Next thing you know Grady’s making the attendants pick up towels or some BS.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 11:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why would there be BS on the floor of the clubhouse?

by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 12:05 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel like Shooter McGavin.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 10, 2008 9:27 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

because you eat pieces of …. um… asbestos… for breakfast?

by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 11:18 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Add to that we would be the proud owners of both The Big Donkey and Project Donkey.

That’s a ton of ass.

Signature to be named later.

by emd2k3 on Dec 10, 2008 1:15 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t it turn out that this stat was a total load of crap because he had, like, a million sac-flies?

Sac-flies don’t count as hits, hence they don’t help the RISP stats.

In 2008, Dunn had 651 PA, with 408 baserunners, 220 with RISP, and he got 100 RBI.

The average hitter in 651 PA had 411 baserunners, 211 with RISP, and got 74 RBI.

Thank you, B-Ref, and … epic fail, I think.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 10:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you referring to his career .890 OPS with RISP or his .920 mark last year?

And really, K and RISP numbers?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 10:42 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And again, OPS gives no credit for sac-flies. (They are counted as 0 for 0 in the slugging part and 0 for 1 in the OBP part.)

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 10:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN on board with caption “Indians Seek Wood”.

by cclemens31 on Dec 9, 2008 6:44 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somehow I want Wood and Wang to come to blows during a Yankee game.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 6:52 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Castroturf:

UPDATE No. 3 (5:45 p.m. ET): Just to clarify here, the deal will not be completed today. It’s going to take a few days, if not longer, because of the aforementioned physical/paperwork logistics. But I remain cautiously confident in telling you Kerry Wood will be a member of the Indians soon.

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 9, 2008 6:46 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man, that’s a dissapointment, though I’d be satisfied with an official statement along the lines of “pending physical”.

I’m sure that the Indians doctors didn’t sign up to examine Wood though (I know, bad joke …)

by JP_Frost on Dec 9, 2008 6:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Indians have already signed off on Wood’s medical report

This does not reassure me in the least. Still, pretty crazy that we got this kind of player for that contract.

by supermarioelia on Dec 9, 2008 6:50 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We still haven’t really heard a good $ amount, have we?

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 7:02 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CHRIST.

REALLY?

I’m losing my mind over here with joy. I have to think this is an indicator of a league wide market downturn. Those numbers just look so cheap.

by afh4 on Dec 9, 2008 6:55 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In the spirit of, “the stars are aligned so that we can get whatever we want” – what’s everyone’s next dream acquisition once we have Wood nailed down?

I’m actually struggling to figure out what mine is at the moment…

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 7:20 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Trading youngsters for veteran Beltre.

Sonnanstine or Sanchez.

Adam Dunn at under $10M/year.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 7:23 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how about Sheets on a 2-year deal (i’m at a loss for infielders – Jay is right that a prospects for Beltre trade will never happen)

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 7:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This would blow my mind. I would explode.

Sheets on a cheap 2 year plus SHEETS TO THE BULLPEN!

by afh4 on Dec 9, 2008 8:16 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I kind of like the idea. Take care of the pitching, if that’s what’s undervalued in the market. Play the position players by ear and see what comes along.

I’m pretty fine with the One Last Chance themed Spring, between Marte and Barfield. It might leave Peralta in a state of positional limbo, but that’s a fine detail in the big picture.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 8:36 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunn

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 7:26 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

where do you play him? LF or DH?

by APV on Dec 9, 2008 7:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who doesn’t like getting batters from the NL?

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 7:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his career interleague tOPS+ is 97.

instead of making you look that up like i had to, it’s his OPS+ of the interleague split relative to his overall OPS.

so, if i’m reading it correctly, the difference is negligible.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Dec 10, 2008 10:51 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is what that would mean. It’s about 13 points of OPS.

by Jay on Dec 10, 2008 1:56 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haven’t thought too hard about it, but off the top of my head I’d say LF. Keep Pronk at DH until he totally fails/Dunn costs us multiple games with bad defense/DoorMatt is beating down the, um, door to be on the ML club.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 7:32 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1B? Is this out of the question?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 7:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thought about that too.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 7:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1B

The best thing probably is to hit [Grady] 2nd -- Jay

by Buckeye Brad on Dec 9, 2008 8:01 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dunn. Let him play where LaPorta doesn’t. I’d say probably LF unless/until Garko AND Hafner have terrible April/Mays. I expect Laporta to come up in June and will take over for one of those two.

by DaytonDogg on Dec 9, 2008 8:33 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, how cheap does Griffey go for? Very cheap, right? Hmmmm….

by dgcambridge on Dec 9, 2008 7:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 9, 2008 7:49 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Griffey is done. I don’t know how much better than Francisco he is at this point.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 10:22 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ben fran has been totally forgotten this off season

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.

by Gradyforpresident on Dec 10, 2008 2:11 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who?

Still the local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer" and also has hopes for Gutz. Free Marte.

by mjmarble on Dec 10, 2008 9:04 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s because ben fran is just a guy.

On Griffey, yeah he’s probably done, but certainly a team will take a look. It actually makes zero sense for us to even try, now that I think about it. Not because of Francisco, but because of Dellucci.

Dellucci.

by dgcambridge on Dec 10, 2008 11:34 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe Greinke…. definitely a starting pitcher.

by Logodaedalus on Dec 9, 2008 7:58 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m still intrigued by Greinke if that Francouer rumor had any merit.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Dec 10, 2008 10:52 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Royals, sources indicate, are unlikely to send Greinke to Atlanta in a swap for Francouer unless the Braves accept Guillen and his entire salary while also surrendering shortstop Yunel Escobar and one, and possibly two, other top prospects.

It was never one-for-one.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Dec 10, 2008 10:59 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks, there’s been so much to read in the past 24 hours i can’t possibly get to it all.

hell, i killed over a half-hour at work digesting this entire thread this morning.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Dec 10, 2008 11:02 AM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God knows I killed more than that. This was the most productive thing I did all day. At work.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 10, 2008 4:29 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1. Sheets on a 2-year deal with an option

2. Dunn for 8 mil/per, play him at first.

3. Trade Betancourt, I think

4. Trade Garko and Francisco for anything.

5. Hire Schottenheimer to run the front office and Cowher to coach.

(this is all pure fantasy right?)

by NickFantana on Dec 9, 2008 9:48 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If you’re getting Cowher, you’re not getting a FO man too. Cowher won’t stand for that.

Travis Hafner is overrated. Clarity is underrated. David Dellucci is David Dellucci.

by westbrook on Dec 9, 2008 10:09 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He and Schottenheimer have been long-time friends. Marty suggested it and I actually think it makes Bill more likely to come to the Browns.

…..and I’m taking this to DBN.

by NickFantana on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, I think, for the cap comment, I deserve one more. Right? Just one more?

by NickFantana on Dec 9, 2008 10:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Getting CC back?

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This could be in reply to APV, or whatever.

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by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 7:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would say the first player we sign for anything close to $10 million, closes the door on that possibility. Not that it isn’t already closed.

by Jay on Dec 9, 2008 7:24 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey we are talking about dream signings aren’t we? Dream crusher…

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by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 7:25 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And APV said we could have whatever we like.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 7:27 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You did not just link that.

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 7:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s only slightly less poignant than the music discussion that went on here.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 7:38 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And you are forgiven.

LGT's resident beer connaisseur.

by LGT Patrick on Dec 9, 2008 7:43 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don’t know why you’ve felt a need to shit on that convo both here and in this thread.

Thanks for your contribution!

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 8:39 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dude, relax. It’s a joke. I’m honestly a little embarrassed I didn’t have anything to add to that.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 8:44 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, I didn’t flag you. I take it all in stride.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 8:51 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’ll have to sort this out in the Cleve. Perhaps over Christmas ales on me.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 8:55 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No way I’m drinking a Christmas Ale on you.

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 9:11 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ouch. That will go down in the annals of poor phrasing.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Dec 9, 2008 9:18 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah. Body shots maybe, but Christmas Ale is not to be wasted.

by fwembt on Dec 9, 2008 9:21 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Coincidentally I have two Christmas Ales left, which is enough just enough for me to get drunk on an empty stomach.

(Not Phil’s empty stomach)

Helium Watch: Chuck Lofgren, OF

by jhon on Dec 9, 2008 9:28 PM EST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love empty stomach drunk

Anti-Ben Fran before it was cool.