The Columbus Clippers unveiled their new uniforms today. They feature a more "modern" look as well as a new "C" hat logo to play up the Cleveland connection. Perhaps most notable are the red-top home alternates.
The real news, of course, is that LaPorta is gonna look smokin' in that red uni.
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Actually, the real news here is that for the first time in club history, including their first two years as a Pirates affiliate in the 70s and the last two years as a Nats affiliate, the Clippers will not be in pinstripes.
Well, Christopher Columbus was a sailor. I’m guessing that’s where the name came from.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 7:38 AM EST up reply actions
There’s even a replica of the Santa Maria in some boring corner of downtown Columbus. The Santa Maria is not a Clipper ship however. Clippers are fast with lots of sails and the Santa Maria was slow. Nobody wants a slow ship for a mascot.
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 9:12 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I think boat that was built as part of the big celebration in 1992 for the 500th anniversary of Columbus landing in America.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
What, the Olentangy River doesn’t classify as a major body of water?
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
From it’s inception, Columbus was a manufactured city established as the capital city after Ohio had achieved statehood to solve the obvious rivalry between Zanesville and Chillicothe. The name was, I assume, was an ode to our American history. It’s pretty much my least favorite city in the entire state, and we’ve got some depressing ones.
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
OK, that’s a little more detailed than I said. I knew it was something like that.
But why the hate on Columbus? Do we really need to start this again? I’ve lived in Youngstown for 5 years (in college) and Columbus for 6 years, and there is absolutely no way you can say that Columbus is crappier or more depressing than Y-town.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
It depends on what you find depressing. I dislike suburban sprawl and pretty much the entire strip mall culture that rings the city with 270 as it’s main artery. Columbus is growing (business and population) while the rest of the state withers. It isn’t entirely Columbus’ fault. Our local politicians outside the capitol share that blame.
You’re right though, we don’t need to get this started. I plan on spending more time in C-bus this year with at least one Clippers game and a big-ass beer at Schnitzel Haus before the game and maybe some Capitol brews afterward.
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Well, I live in a house just outside of 270 just north of Columbus, and I love my house and the area I live in. I like being just a few minutes away from restaurants, shopping areas, and movie theatres.
You’re right that people here hate Columbus just because it’s growing while Cleveland is losing people, but I find that completely ignorant. People in Columbus aren’t any different than people in Cleveland or other parts of Ohio, so I don’t get all the crap that gets thrown at the city and the people living there. There are many Indians fans in Columbus, and there will probably be many more with the AAA team moving there.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
I haven’t spent any significant amount of time in Columbus, but one of my beefs from the outside looking in is that it seems to lack a decent transit system. I just generally don’t enjoy cities where you have to drive to get to anything. Am I dead wrong on this? Maybe the transit is better than I know about.
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by Turkmenbashi on Dec 10, 2008 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
There is a city bus system and I rode it a few times while at OSU. I really have no idea how effective it is, but I doubt many people use it. I rarely go in to the city of Columbus so I’m not the one to speak on this topic. I live in the northern suburbs and drive 30 minutes northeast to work so I don’t deal with any traffic. I would think that most people drive places, but again I don’t know about those living downtown.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
See this is a big negative for me. One of the things I love most about Cleveland is the Rapid and the extensive bus system that makes living without a car not only feasible but practical. It’s my favorite thing about DC, too.
Burn on, big river, burn on...
by Turkmenbashi on Dec 10, 2008 2:34 PM EST up reply actions
Transit does suck, but it’s not logistically feasible in a town this spread out geographically. Think Los Angeles, but smaller, cleaner and way less interesting. I reside in Galena, which is 20 miles north/east of the city, drive 10 minutes to work. I have no need for public transit.
I would love to live in Upper Arlington or Grandview, but up until recently, you just got so much more house for the money out in the burbs that it made buying a $300k house with 1300 square feet in those neighborhoods a really bad idea.
Columbus is a lovely place to raise a family. If you are young (20s) and single, I would advise you to leave, explore the world and much more interesting cities because you could always come back here to grow old.
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Transit does suck, but it’s not logistically feasible in a town this spread out geographically.
I guess that’s the gist of my beef. I really prefer cities that are “smaller” in a sense, meaning denser and more walkable. It just makes things feel more alive.
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by Turkmenbashi on Dec 10, 2008 2:35 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
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by Gradyforpresident on Dec 10, 2008 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with you Turk. Hope is not lost for Columbus to develop some rail infrastructure. Central Columbus is a pre-auto layout, although a bit ignored by the ever-growing suburbs. I look forward to the day I can make a Clippers game a daytrip via rail.
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
See, I grew up in a small town so my perspective is different. I’ve never lived in a big city (the downtown part, I mean) so I’m not used to what people growing up in Cleveland have experienced and want. I don’t care much about art museums and cultural things like that. I want a nice house with a yard and good schools for my kids (when we start having them). I want sidewalks on a quite street my kids can ride their bikes on. I’m a suburbs or small town guy, not a city guy.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 3:26 PM EST up reply actions
I live less than a mile from the Jake/Prog/Gateway and we have all that (lawns, sidewalks, nice houses) minus the schools (if you don’t count some of the best private schools in the state.) The city isn’t for everyone, but it isn’t as lacking as the suburbs may think. There is a major national trend of people from multiple demographics moving back to the city centers. Cleveland is seeing redevelopment and renovation despite a horrible economy.
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 3:32 PM EST up reply actions
I’m sure there are many nice places in Cleveland, just like In Columbus. My points were that people have different needs and interests and what may be a crappy place to live to one person can be great to another.
I’ve never said anything bad about any city on here. But many other people have said some awful things about Columbus, including calling it a ‘hellhole.’ I think it’s a very nice place to live and I don’t understand all the hostility. But I’m just not like that, I guess.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I’m guessing Matt Yglesias
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by Gradyforpresident on Dec 10, 2008 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
ok, seriously.
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by Gradyforpresident on Dec 10, 2008 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
I very much agree. I guess we’ll see what happens when I have kids, but really have a hard time seeing myself living anywhere but a city or maybe the most central of suburbs.
I’m not sure why I thought moving to Tucson would be a good idea. It’s kind of a giant suburb. Only a couple more years here though, then I really want to come back east. Or, failing that, to a dense city on some water.
by Logodaedalus on Dec 10, 2008 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
You would love PIttsburgh. You can literally walk across town in 15 minutes. (excluding the North and South sides)
Geography dictates how a city grows, regardless of how many ‘planners’ are involved. If you look at Cleveland (bordered by a Great Lake) and Pittsburgh (rivers, sizable hills), sprawl has been limited by geographical factors. Most new cities in the flat Midwest have ample opportunity to grow outward, and do. Indianapolis is very similar to C-Bus.
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Saying that transit in Columbus sucks is an understatement. The bus system only works if you want to go Downtown, and then only if you’re going there from within the Outerbelt. If you want to go elsewhere, you pretty much have to go Downtown first. There is no Downtown circulator route. Voters have refused to pony up for light rail, primarily because they see the bus system is horrible and they don’t want to give them any more of their money. Transit is a tough sell here – as has been noted elsewhere, Columbus is a product of car culture and suburban sprawl and it has been only within the last 10-15 years that people have been trying to reclaim and expand on whatever urban nature Columbus has left.
by woodsmeister on Dec 10, 2008 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
the only problem is, that economic model may not be particularly feasible in the coming decades
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by Gradyforpresident on Dec 10, 2008 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Y-town’s got character and history that rivals any city in Ohio. You’re from PA so you’re forgiven for you dislike of cross border communities. Outwardly, I hate Pittsburgh (even though it’s one of my favorite midwest cities to visit.)
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 3:06 PM EST up reply actions
Except that people are moving away in droves and there’s not much there any more. Not only did I go to college there, but my in-laws live just outside of Y-town and many of my friends are from there. But there really isn’t anything to do there and most people growing up there leave because there aren’t any jobs.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 3:28 PM EST up reply actions
I don’t disagree with you on the trouble the city is seeing, but I also don’t give up on places that easy. I know Youngstown pretty well and had some life-altering experiences there. The city has clearly seen better days, but there’s still alot to like about the town that shouldn’t just be abandoned and left to rot.
by PatBordersHelmet on Dec 10, 2008 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I agree completely. I know we’ve talked about this on here earlier, but Y-town has recieved some recognition the past few years about trying to embrace its smaller size (rather than trying to bring people back) by moving people out of empty blocks to tear down houses and make parks and such. They have a new arena downtown which has hockey and concerts.
Y-town would be hurt immensly by the collapse of the auto industry. GM has a big plant in Lordstown and many other poeple in the area work for suppliers. My father-in-law works for a trucking company which delivers parts and would probably lose his job if GM went under. Y-town certainly doesn’t need to lose any more jobs than it’s already lost the past few decades.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 3:50 PM EST up reply actions
There certainly is upside to what YSU has been doing in buying up blocks of property around the school and re-developing them.
Yes, Y-town has character and history, not all of it bad … but it is a product of a derelict political culture and rust-belt nostalgia (meaning most people who grow up and stay there seem to think that manufacturing jobs are the only valuable barometer by which to judge an economy)
Sharon, by the way, is exactly the same on a much smaller scale.
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PIttsburgh is great to visit and is awesomely livable. I called Squirrel Hill home for around 6 years, and loved it. (Carnegie Mellon grad)
The blend of ethnic communities, history, architecture and geography is what’s nice about Pittsburgh. And the sports scene isn’t so bad, either. And it still has that small-town feel to it.
And Sophie Masloff engineered hassle-free one-bag recycling, which I still cannot do 15 years later in Columbus.
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Actually, I think the history of the name comes from when Ohio became a state and they were looking for a place to build the capital. It was Chillicothe at the beginning, I believe, but they wanted to build a new capital city near the middle of the state. They chose the site of what is now Columbus and chose to name it after the explorer, I guess because there were no other major cities named after him.
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by Buckeye Brad on Dec 10, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
Those unis are …. meh. I don’t know why they are a slave to the C and the ship being a part of the logo.
I believe Ken Schnake (General Manager) does a decent job with the tactical and day-to-day things hitw e Clippers. Their local marketing efforts, however, are pretty awful.
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