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Signed 3B/UT Casey Blake to a one-year, $6M contract

The dollar figure is not tied to the Indians' generosity, but to the history of arbitration contracts. Players with more service time are going to be paid more than players with less service time. Hence Blake will be paid more in 2008 than Victor Martinez ($4.25M), Grady Sizemore ($3M), Jhonny Peralta ($2.25M), Ryan Garko, Fausto Carmona, etc, etc. That the Indians are paying him $6M does not mean that they think Blake better than the above players, it means they are paying him because the system in place dictates it. Merit-based pay happens rarely in baseball.

I would guess that Shapiro would have loved to have stuck a team option on the end of the one-year deal, if only to serve as an insurance policy on Andy Marte. Hopefully this looming problem means that the team will give Marte a reasonable shot at winning the job.

Signed RHP Rafael Betancourt to two-year, $5.4M contract (2010 team option)

In this instance Shapiro got his team option, allowing the Indians to buy out a free agent year if Betancourt remains healthy and effective. If they pick up the $5.4M option, they'll have spent nearly $12.5M for seven years of outstanding relief.

Signed RHP Jorge Julio to a minor-league contract; Invited him to Spring Training

It's now been five seasons since Julio's been really good. He hung onto the closer's role with the Orioles into 2004, and later got a closing opportunity with Arizona, but his penchant for giving up home runs (10+ in 2003, 2004, 2005, and 2006), and his generous walk rate has finally tarnished his early-career reputation. I presume the deal includes an "up or out" clause, where the Indians would have to bring him to the majors by a certain date or release him; if he is brought up, it should be because of injury, not performance.  

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In other news, I have reason to believe I turfed the competition for an autographed Jason Stanford glossy at a silent auction I went to with my parents tonight. Minimum bid was $5; I laid out $8. Big players make big plays. I'll keep you posted.

by fleerdon on Feb 2, 2008 9:42 PM EST   0 recs

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Success! I've got my inspiration for 2008.

by fleerdon on Feb 5, 2008 7:28 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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preface- i'm very drunk right now. I just watched the ufc fights and they were very entertaining, but I can barely type right now.

I cannot wait for the season and talk about actual baseball instead of the projections and the minor moves.  I am excited about Masa and I think having Julio in the background can only be a good thing.  Borowski, Betancourt, Lewis, Perez, Kobiyashi, Mastny, Julio, Lee? this has the making of a pretty solid pen.  

I also got in a big argument tonight with a Tigers fan who said he thinks the Indians have one starter and no chance with M. Cabrera.  My response was largely to talk about the bullpens of each team--- which makes me a little worried, because even though our pen looks awesome and their pen looks pretty bad on paper, pens can be so iffy from year to year that i'm worried that we are relying on it.

finally, our infield- marte, peralta, barfield, cabrera, blake, carroll.  hm, I don't know what I think. I've seen people suggest that Peralta should be at 3B, 2B, or stay at SS.  I really like Cabrera, but not as much as most on LGT.  To me, it all comes to to what yoiu think of Jhonny.  I think his hiting at SS is key.  He ends up at avg. or below avg for hitting as a 3B guy and then you bring in Barfield or someone with less batting prowess at 2B?!  I just think moving him makes our lineup too weak.  

Hopefully Travis Hafner will find his inner pronk and have a .320/45/130 line going something like .320/.450/.625 and nothing else will matter.

Go tribe, sorry for drunk post. i miss baseball.

by DaytonDogg on Feb 3, 2008 1:06 AM EST   0 recs

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Oh man, now I can't wait for the first Spring Training game - I'm gonna get so sloshed. Jesus I can't wait.

ALSO WHERE IS THE WIRE THREAD. I am a junkie and need to talk about it.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Feb 3, 2008 1:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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A friend convinced me to watch the UFC fights tonight as well.  Brock was really killing that guy for a while, eh?

by nickjs21 on Feb 3, 2008 1:29 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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yeah, Brock is going to be a force if he isn't on the juice and he keeps is head into training and getting his jiu jitsu better.  He is simply the strongest guy I've ever seen in the sport.

by DaytonDogg on Feb 3, 2008 11:24 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Anyone who thinks the Tribe has "one starter" doesn't know baseball.

by JulioBernazard on Feb 3, 2008 9:47 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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 Look, it's gonna be a new year, and just like every new year we're in for another wild ride.  Last year wasn't one long march of success.  Our closer designate - who we signed for big bucks - doesn't even throw pitch one in Spring Training.  In April first base looks shaky - real shaky - until that kid from Stanford shows that the tail end of '06 wasn't a fluke.  Then our number's 2 and 3 starters go down and we bring up a kid who failed miserably in the closer's role to start, hoping - dear God please - that he can give us 2-3 league average starts.  Instead he becomes the most dominant pitcher in baseball.   And our two hotshot, can't miss prospects flop.  One is replaced by our designated super-sub who proceeds to put up the worst RISP average I can remember while the other runs a butcher shop at second while failing away at a .243/.270/.324 clip and striking out almost 20% of his PAs.  Then the most horrendous Indians bullpen since Ernie Camacho morphes into a team strength with a broken down short stop leading the way while other pre-season pillars get DFA'ed.  And the corner outfield spots - let's just say they were not too critical to last year's success.  But still we get within one win of winning the Holy Grail.

That's just a very long-winded way of telling you that nobody knows nothing - especially in February.

And this moron from Detroit tells you that we've got only one starting pitcher - is that right?  And you thought this jadrool knew anything about baseball?  Brother, you musta been drunk.  Clearly that pendejo doesn't know squat about baseball in general and the Indians in particular.  Let that dubiyosh wallow in his own ignorance and stop by here to get your off-the-wall mindless baseball blatherings.  At least here you know you're loved.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 3, 2008 9:54 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I know- he wouldn't give me Carmona because he thought it was a fluky one year thing for him.  Oh well, some people are idiots.  

You are right that nobody knows anything in February.  Heck, for all we know Adam Miller and Ben Francisco could be come more valuable than Grady Sizemore and Raffy-R.  It sounds incredible, but would anybody guess last year at this time that Jensen Lewis and Asdrubal Cabrera would be integral parts to an ALCS run, while Foulke retired before spring training, Barfield sucked big time and Hafner had his worst season as a pro.

Thanks for entertaining my drunken post.

by DaytonDogg on Feb 3, 2008 11:33 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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In the same vein, think of the following. Suppose someone had come on here in the winter of '05-'06 and predicted that TWO teams from the AL Central would make the playoffs (in '06) and that NEITHER the White Sox or the Indians would be there. That individual would have been e-laughed off this site (unless it was E5). It's the unpredictability that makes this fun!
Having said that, I think that it will be Dontrelle's performance which determines how Detroit is affected by that trade. I suspect most Tiger fans see a Cy Young winner and most Indians fans hope he repeats '07.

by CaptainPenny on Feb 3, 2008 11:41 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Royals in '08!

Er...

Aw shit.

Officially starting up and driving the trade for Bedard bandwagon. Also, local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer."

by mjmarble on Feb 4, 2008 5:11 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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P.S. - 9 days, 18 hrs and 48 minutes.  Or so.  Just an estimate.  YMMV.
Officially starting up and driving the trade for Bedard bandwagon. Also, local "Barfield Bounces Back Believer."

by mjmarble on Feb 4, 2008 5:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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finally.  man, this winter has dragged.

by jhon on Feb 4, 2008 5:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

AL Central - Winter Rankings...
I am using my baseball simulator that I wrote last year to rank all 6 baseball divisions based on 2008 ZIPS Projections.  The simulator uses advanced sabermetric algorithms to pit two teams against each other taking into account nearly every facet of a baseball game.  It is still light on modelling defense, as there doesn't seem to be any one defensive metric that the great minds can agree to.  In this study I took roster depth charts from both Rototimes and Yahoo and played each team against each of the other divisional teams, with #1 pitchers going up against #1 pitchers and #2 pitchers going up against #2 pitchers etc..., each game was simulated 2000 times, played at both home and away (park factors involved).  All the games are summed up and an average winning percentage is calculated.  Below are the AL Central Results.  I am waiting for the Bedard trade to be official before posting the AL West/East rankings.

  1. Detroit .5459
  2. Cleveland .5230
  3. Minnesota .5112
  4. Kansas City .4639
  5. Chicago .4586

AL Central - Winter Rankings

vr, Xeifrank

by Xeifrank on Feb 5, 2008 12:32 AM EST   0 recs

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Wow this was before my time but apparently a playoff simulation was done last February? Reading the game 7 synopsis kills me.

by supermarioelia on Feb 5, 2008 10:32 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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"One of the most exciting series' ever simulated"

by jhon on Feb 5, 2008 12:21 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Heh, Cudduyer had seven homers that series. I have lost all faith in simulations.
Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Feb 5, 2008 4:31 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: AL Central - Winter Rankings...
See what happens when you wrap BS in that "advanced sabermetric" BS.  It's still BS but you look like more of a geek in cyberspace than you do in real life.  Quite an accomplishment there Xi!  
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 6, 2008 1:46 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Re: AL Central - Winter Rankings...
Gotta agree with you Chuck.

by hans on Feb 6, 2008 1:55 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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That's a great link there.  I love the part where SABR Matt calls Tango Tiger an ignorant slut.

by Jay on Feb 7, 2008 9:43 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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