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Spring Training Roundup

Today's shining example of kinesiology in action comes courtesy of Cliff Lee, who's been doing what it takes to prepare for the 2008 season.

Lee, whose contract status could make him a favorite to win the fifth spot, hopes his days of playing catch-up are behind him. While abdominal strains are fluky, he's made a concerted effort to prevent another one by doing as many extra sit-ups as his body can muster.

And just in case the sit-ups don't work, he'll have to locate his pitches better, especially if he doesn't alter his pitching mentality.

But in '07, Lee struggled to move the fastball in and out of the zone. His insistence on using that pitch came back to bite him.

"That's his aggressive nature, going right after guys," Willis said. "It's hard to find a happy medium, because you never want to take away a guy's aggressiveness."

Lee is the favorite to be the Indians' fifth starter by virtue of his guaranteed contract, although there is a limit to the Indians' patience. What worked in 2005 isn't necesarily going to work in 2008: unless a pitcher is blessed with unhittable stuff, hitters will eventually catch onto your patterns. And if you can't locate the one pitch you rely on, well, 2007 happens.    

Masa Kobayashi made his Spring Training debut on Friday, and the batters that faced him came away impressed - if that means anything:

"I saw his two-seam fastball, his four-seam and his slider," Blake said. "He seemed to have good location."

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"It looks like he's deceptive and he has pretty good control," said Michaels.

Probably the most interesting story of Spring Training, though, is the resumption of a long-simmering feud between Casey Blake and Travis Hafner. The feud, strangely enough, surfaces only in Spring Training, when stories are sparse. This year's point of contention: talking on the cell phone.

He still bickers with teammate Casey Blake on subjects ranging from car pooling to dogs. An example: Hafner and Blake usually drive to Chain of Lakes Park together every morning in spring training.

"I can't take this anymore," said Hafner. "He's getting a cab. I give him a ride, and he's on his cell phone all the time. I can't listen to the radio, and I can't talk to him."

Hafner, seemingly plotting revenge, said he's trained his 20-pound Australian terrier, Rudi, to attack Blake.

"The dog tried to bite my pinky toe," said an unconcerned Blake. "When we first got down here, I'd send my girls over to walk it. They're 4 and 6 so what does that tell you about the dog?"

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Re: Spring Training Roundup
There are many more exercises that are more useful to avoid abdominal strain then sit ups.  A few good ones to train with are holding side obliques, leg lifts, V's, twisting crunches, and sit ups with a medicine ball throw.  There are of course many more then this but to keep it simple this is the main ones more useful then sit ups.  The rest of the story sound encouraging but only time will tell.
All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident LGT kinesiologist! Straw,Drink

by E5 on Feb 24, 2008 4:22 AM EST   0 recs

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Last year C.C. gave up golf to avoid strain on the obliques.  As an aside and completely unrelated to anything we've ever talked about, I think this shows real palpable dedication to improvement and we should all commend C.C. for it.

by nickjs21 on Feb 24, 2008 10:10 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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"Palpable dedication" huh?  Maybe we should run him of ta the Imaging Lab for an ultra-sound.
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 24, 2008 10:18 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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You know I was gone for about a week and missed whatever lead to the new tagline on the front page.  Is there a joke I'm missing?

by nickjs21 on Feb 24, 2008 10:46 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Here ya go.  Check it out upthread of the siting for more of the etiology.
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 24, 2008 10:59 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I would be willing to bet ANYTHING YOU WANT that Cliff Lee, a professional athlete, and the Indians' training staff are well aware that there are other exercises besides sit-ups for your abs.  Do you know how obnoxious it would be to read something like, "Cliff Lee is doing as many holding side obliques, leg lifts, V's, twisting crunches, and sit ups with a medicine ball throws as he can do" in the morning paper?  Or how much space it fills in a newspaper, a limited space resource?

Give it a rest.  Your obnoxious insistence on this line of comments is insufferable.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Feb 24, 2008 10:29 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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You're out of your element. The key to a World Series championship will be whether or not Cliff Lee can master 8 minute abs. One week in, I'm already ripped.

by supermarioelia on Feb 24, 2008 11:47 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Do you honestly thing he doesn't know that? Or are you just trying to impress us all like the new kid at the lunch table?
I swear, next year is it.

by fwembt on Feb 24, 2008 5:29 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Ya know I've been pondering the issues surrounding E5's creditials for some time now and I've decided that establishing his acedemic background is irrelevent.  Nope we need to test his theories in the field.  I figure that the one person we know who has benefited the most from his expertise is E5 himself.  N'est pas?  So here's my challenge.  I can be just about anywhere in the US given two weeks notice.  I think my boy E5 is somewhere in Maryland.  I'll go there.  We'll do bench presses with 225 for reps.  Whoever does the most will be the official LGT arbitrator of "integrity, passion, effort, improvement, character, (and) mental toughness"

And let me present my bona fides.  I'm old - very old.  I haven't touched a weight in over four years.  I've never done exercises with any kinda beach ball.  When I was seriously lifting weights it was almost exclusively old school - benches, squats, militaries, dead lifts, good mornings, cleans and jerks.  None of this "kineseology" stuff - strickly neanderthal lifting with a bunch of sweatly guys in smelly gyms.  

So there's not much left of me - probably can't do 50% of my previous max - be lucky to do 35% of my maximum reps with 225.  But here's the bet: even in my extremely debilitated state I can do more bench presse with 225 than E5 can.  You interested E?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 24, 2008 6:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Would that make you the grittiest member of LGT then?
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Feb 24, 2008 7:27 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I would challenge E to a foot race, but don't feel like traveling.

by Roger Dorn on Feb 24, 2008 8:34 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Maryland?  I would have placed E about a block from Fenway.

by nickjs21 on Feb 24, 2008 9:06 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I'm pretty sure he lives in New Hampshire.  He replied to a post of mine where I mentioned that I live in New Hampshire and he wanted to meet up.  I can't find it though....

by Nat on Feb 24, 2008 10:09 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I picture chuck lifting those pyramid shaped weights.

by hans on Feb 24, 2008 9:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Awesome.
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Feb 24, 2008 9:57 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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225 is actually really heavy, i think.  now, this is coming from someone who is 160... but still, it's friggin heavy.

by kwoog on Feb 24, 2008 10:47 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Good morning clean and jerks? Solid way to start the day if you ask me.

by supermarioelia on Feb 24, 2008 11:08 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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That being the case, if Lee can't spot his fastball, it doesn't matter how many sit-ups or ab crunches or whatever miscellaneous kinesiological exercise he does.

by Ryan on Feb 24, 2008 9:53 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Kobayashi's windup being called, "a curious mix of baseball and ballet" worries me.  Whatever that means, I hope it's more parts baseball than ballet.

I hope Miller is able to get through Spring Training with his finger in shape.  No news is good news there.  

Last year at this time I mocked Grit, but this year I find myself pleased at what I hear from Delucci.  I hope he does find a way to win ballgames.  

by jhon on Feb 24, 2008 7:14 PM EST   0 recs

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I believe he intends to pitch mostly from the stretch.

by nickjs21 on Feb 24, 2008 9:02 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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From another Hoynes piece:

"Rookie left-hander Chuck Lofgren made a nice running catch in right-center field on a long drive by Jhonny Peralta."

Am I missing something here?  Why is Lofgren playing the outfield?

by NickFantana on Feb 25, 2008 9:32 AM EST   0 recs

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Cuz he's our new Rich Ankiel?
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 25, 2008 9:32 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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i think he was in the top 2 or 3 in terms of batting power amongst high schoolers in his draft class.  good lord i hope that remains an irrelevant factoid.

by ironmanatee on Feb 25, 2008 11:04 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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"I absolutely have no desire to go and pitch in Buffalo ever again," Lee said. "I do have another [Minor League] option left, but if that's what it comes down to ... I haven't even really thought about that. But I know it's not something I'm considering in my mind."

What am I forgetting here?  I could have sworn they used up the last one last year?

by Brick. on Feb 25, 2008 11:24 AM EST   0 recs

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Hey what happened to E5?  You guys haven't been mean to him again have you?
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 25, 2008 2:48 PM EST   0 recs

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He's working out in his garage with his Bowflex, Rocky soundtrack blaring, determining if 1 rep at 225 is good or bad.

By the way, I will fly from San Francisco to the site of this contest and film the event, should it happen, so it can be viewed by everyone.  While it would probably work as a PPV event, in the spirit of genorisity, I would post it free of charge.  (That said, it would be nice if this event was actaully in Maui.)

by Fredward on Feb 25, 2008 7:43 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Two and a quarter ain't a bad bench.  I once won a power lifting contest with two and a quarter - when I was 13 - and Truman was president.
"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 25, 2008 8:14 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Just an aside here Fred, but when I was living in Marina Del Ray I bumped into the other Fred Ward when he was working out at Gold's Gym and getting buffed up for the Remo Williams movie.  

Now that was the weirdest gym I ever went to.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 26, 2008 9:06 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Odd career for that guy.  Has been a string of really awful movies, but also some pretty good ones on the artsy side.  Some highlights:

  • played Henry Miller
  • solid roles in a couple Altman flicks, Short Cuts and The Player
  • also in The Right Stuff, Silkwood and Bob Roberts
  • played Joe Dirt's dad

by Jay on Feb 26, 2008 11:19 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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All I can really remember him for is his role in the seminal film about underground killer worms, Tremors.  

Although my screen name was never intended as a tribute to the great Mr. Ward, perhaps now it is.

by Fredward on Feb 26, 2008 11:41 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I always thought he would have been perfect to play the Punisher.

by mrich on Feb 26, 2008 3:20 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I can vouch for Fredward's qualifications to judge this event, and that he is game enough to fly somewhere to do it.

by Jay on Feb 25, 2008 11:18 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Hafner-Blake is reason enough to keep Blake around indefinitely. I love Hafner-Blake.

by afh4 on Feb 25, 2008 3:00 PM EST   0 recs

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He's busy remote-diagnosing diabetes and glaucoma in dead athletes, curing joint problems, and researching how to fake a "World's Greatest Kinesiologist" award from the AMA.
Lhet's Gho Thribe!

by BostonWahoo on Feb 25, 2008 3:10 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Bah.  Wrong parent comment.  Should be one up.
Lhet's Gho Thribe!

by BostonWahoo on Feb 25, 2008 3:11 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Ladies and gentlemen, your 2009 3rd base coach, Casey Blake.

by nickjs21 on Feb 25, 2008 7:04 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Why does that sound like a way better idea than it should?
Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Feb 25, 2008 10:15 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I think Casey will make one hell of a 3rb base coach when his career is over.  We bash the guy all the time for being unclutch and not being that great of a player.  We whine about why the front offices keeps him around but he is a very intelligent, gritty and determined player.  The guy should have failed to make the majors and he has made the most of his limited opportunities that he had here.  Even though he isn't a great player plenty of organizations would be happy to have a player of his effort and personality.  When Marte failed he was our back up plan, the Twins wish they had that kind of production from a 3rb and haven't had it since Gary Gaetti.
All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident LGT kinesiologist! Straw,Drink

by E5 on Feb 25, 2008 10:27 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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how did that not pan out?

by Brick. on Feb 25, 2008 10:49 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I believe it is supposed to be "nonclutch" or "clutchless".

by dgcambridge on Feb 26, 2008 11:17 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Completely O/T but Dave did you see this from Sam Smith's February 14 column in MSNBC?

 Q: I noticed you recently said LeBron James has become "much less of a difficult person to be around." What exactly do you mean? What was he like before? -- Paul Hayes, Melbourne, Australia

A: He had been very difficult, especially at the World Championships. He was ordering staff members around and it got to a point where one player even yelled out on the team bus one day that maybe James would say thank you on occasion when some poor kid did something for him. Youth, I guess, and wealth too fast. It had gotten to a point there was even some talk about leaving him off the team. Staffers and everyone said he was a different guy last summer, humble and helpful.

I know it's just one data point and all, but......

Eventually you'll see, this humble, helpful stuff is just an act.  He's a punk.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Feb 27, 2008 6:45 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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That is what playing in Cleveland is supposed to do...humble you. :)
Tribe fan from far, far away

by LGT Patrick on Feb 27, 2008 7:36 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I have a feeling this will never be off topic with you and I.  No problem.

Obviously, I haven't met James.  I've known one person who has worked with him on the agent side, and only reported good things about him.  I have met Maverick briefly, and he was fairly down to earth.  I've also met Chuck briefly, and he was a very nice guy too.  Anyway, I have no reason to discount Smith's story.  It's good to hear that a veteran player was willing to shout him down a little.  I don't know who might do that on the current team.  My money's on Eric Snow.

by dgcambridge on Feb 27, 2008 10:07 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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This post brings up something that I have never understood.  How does Casey Blake not get more love from the media/fanbase?  He is an overacheiver, engaging, white, gritty, midwestern, and decent at baseball.  This is usually a guy that the media eats up.  I guess all this isn't enough to overcome the called 3rd strikes and BA w/ risp.

by ClarkM on Feb 26, 2008 8:08 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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That's...that's a good point. Huh.

by Voltaire on Feb 26, 2008 8:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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It is a good point.  He also has maybe my favorite baseball name ever.  His parents must have known he was going to play ball to name him that.  Its just too bad they didn't name him Rispy McRbi.
Lhet's Gho Thribe!

by BostonWahoo on Feb 27, 2008 10:58 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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"Gritty and determined" are my two favorite adjectives for an average to below-average player.

Honestly though, I like Casey from a human being and a versatility standpoint.  He's just meh with a bat.

by nickjs21 on Feb 27, 2008 9:53 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Let me get this straight.  You want to put Casey Blake in charge of all runners in scoring position?  Wow, that really does not sound good at first blush.

by Jay on Feb 25, 2008 11:17 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I can just imagine Casey locking up in fear as the runner is approaching third and then just tackling him as he rounds for home.

"Oh, sorry dude, I guess I'm just that unclutch."

by NickFantana on Feb 26, 2008 9:04 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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We can always sub someone in for him when a runner is on. Otherwise I think he'd be a perfectly fine third base coach as long as the bases are empty.

by hans on Feb 26, 2008 5:26 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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A) Keeps Casey-v.-Travis alive for years to come, while
B) Not letting Casey actually play, and
C) Replaces everyone's favorite third base coach.

It was obviously just a bit of sarcasm.  I'm sure he could grittily determinate a bullpen catching job if coaching third doesn't suit him.

by nickjs21 on Feb 27, 2008 9:55 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Latest from Spring Training:

  • Adam Miller reopened the famous middle finger blister and is now straight shut down until it is completely healed.

  • Jake Westbrook scratched from first Grapefruit League start tomorrow due to general arm soreness.

  • First intrasquad game results: we won! Peralta and Garko go deep off Borowski in the first inning. Michael Aubrey with a double and a 3 run dinger off Laffey. BenFran 3-3 with a double and 2 SB's.

  • Aubrey is actually healthy and has a new custom "cross your fingers" 1B mitt that he hopes will last the season. Wedge has already noted early on that he has MLB quality tools on offense and defense and simply needs to stay on the field this year, wherever he plays.

  • Second intrasquad today rained out. Play against teams begins tomorrow at 1:05. Get yer mlb.tv!

by mcrose on Feb 27, 2008 2:54 PM EST   0 recs

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Man, I hope Aubrey lands on his feet in the majors, with us or somebody else.  He always seemed like a good guy to me.

by mkwng on Feb 27, 2008 10:05 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Not that anybody asked in this thread, but I've noticed there's a bit of confusion about Aubrey's option status.  He will use up his third option year this season, but he will be eligible for a fourth option year in 2009.

Odds are we will find a way to keep a space for him on the 40-man at least for one more year, so if he can stay healthy, he just might be a significant player for the Indians, even after all this time.

by Jay on Feb 28, 2008 12:18 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Jay, do you just figure these out one at a time or is there a list somewhere I should know about?  I am always curious about this and hate always asking you.  Like Cliff Lee, I swore he used his last last year, but said himself a week or so ago that he had one left.  I wanted to look it up, but didn't know where to begin.

by Brick. on Feb 28, 2008 10:22 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Well, this page seems to be pretty accurate, but it doesn't seem to be fourth-option savvy (which is tricky!), and I always figure it out for myself when I'm not sure.  Aside from the fourth-option exception, figuring it out means determining two things:

  1. When was he added to the 40-man roster?
  2. In which seasons has he used up an option?

The first question is answered by researching the transactions history, sometimes via Google and often ending up browsing through Transactions at indians.com.  It helps to have an understanding of when a player's Rule 5 protection wears off, because generally any significant player is added to the 40-man either at that moment (in November) or at the moment of his first call-up.

The second question is basically just looking to see when, after his contract being purchased, he spent time in the minors.  In Cliff's case, you can actually tell just at a glance that he probably has an option left.  He had what appears to be a September callup in 2002, and there would have been no reason to add him to the 40-man before that moment, since that was the end of only his third pro season.  Remember that September callups don't get sent back down in that season, so no option is used up.

After that point, he clearly used up options in 2003 and 2007, but that's it.  So he must have one option left, but the Indians are not completely free to use it.  As with last season, he'd have to clear revocable waivers first -- the same kind a player has to clear in order to be traded in August.  (This requirement is based on several years having passed since his debut, too complicated to get into here.)  This could turn out to be the mechanism by which he's traded, and in fact there's even a small chance they'd just dump his contract on the claiming club.

The other hindrance on that option is that Lee will reach five full years of service time in mid-June, assuming he isn't demoted by them.  At that point, he'll have the right to refuse any optional assignment, and players generally do and Cliff likely would.  The team's hands really are tied at that point, as they are still on the hook for the guaranteed contract even if they release him.

The fourth option thing is a little hairy, but it only really comes up in situations where either (a) a prospect has been chronically injured, and (b) a prospect was signed to a major league deal and started using up options immediately.

A player only gets a fourth in a situation where he (a) has used up three options already, but (b) hasn't spent five "full seasons" on the active roster of a minor league club.  "Active roster" means not on the DL, but you also have to know what does and doesn't count as a "full season," and that is:  (a) at least 90 days on the active roster, or the first 60 days of the season, (b) there's no fractional credit for a season like with big-league service time, each season is either a 1 or a 0, (c) short-season leagues don't count, so we're talking about A, A-advanced, AA and AAA only.

So here again, you can generally eyeball this just by looking at a guy's stat page, though occasionally you'd dig for more research just to be sure whether a season counts as a full season, based on what dates specifically he was active.  Here again, in Aubrey's case, it's actually pretty clear-cut.

  • Added to 40-man after 2005 season when his Rule 5 protection ran out (three years for college players under the old CBA)
  • Options used in 2006, 2007, third one in 2008.
  • 2003 -- not a full season, even if you signed and reported on the day of the draft, you still couldn't get in 90 days before the season ended.
  • 2004 -- full season, obvious, played in 98 games.
  • 2005 -- not a full season, only played in 28 games, highly improbable he spent 90 days or the first 60 off the DL.
  • 2006 -- not a full season, only played in 14 games.
  • 2007 -- dubious with 65 games played, but probably not.

I did research the 2007 season and determined that it would not count, but it actually doesn't matter either way.  By a year from now, at best, Aubrey's full seasons would include 2004, 2007 and 2008.  That's only three, and as long as he doesn't have five, we get the fourth option on him.

Looking at it another way, once a player is added to the 40-man in November, he usually will have two full seasons credited already.  If he doesn't, he likely will get a fourth option, because at that point, the player has used 0 options and has only 0 or 1 full seasons credited.  Three seasons later, he'd have 3 options used and at most 4 full seasons credited, so the fourth option kicks in.

Based on that, we essentially already knew when Aubrey was added to the 40-man that we would get four option years on him -- if we needed them.

by Jay on Feb 28, 2008 11:29 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

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  1. Thank you so much for this.

  2. This is great stuff.  I'm not sure why I find this stuff so fascinating, but it is.

  3. I have bookmarked this as I will need it again.

  4. I need to read this about 10 more times when I'm not at work, then still might have a follow up question or two.

  5. The second to last paragraph confused me a bit.  I may choose not to look at it another way because the rest of it seemed to make sense.

  6. That frist link is very handy.

by Brick. on Feb 28, 2008 12:10 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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Also, the June thing with Cliff.  Do you expect that to come into play this year - in a 'got till then to figure it out' type thing?

by Brick. on Feb 28, 2008 12:13 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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I guess.  I mean, what else can it be, really?  But it also depends on how others are doing in Buffalo.

Another wrinkle is that you rack up service time even when you're on the DL.  So if Cliff goes on the DL sometime before the end of May, don't be surprised if they option him to Buffalo once he comes off the DL, even after completing a rehab assignment.  They would have every reason to be cautious in that situation, letting him work out any injury or performance kinks before bringing him back up to the majors.

As an aside, the Indians have no service-time incentive to keep Cliff in the minors, since they already hold a club option for an "extra year" (2010) beyond his expected free agency.

by Jay on Feb 28, 2008 12:33 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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