Foulke signs
Keith Foulke signed a contract with the Athletics Friday. The A's expect him to make the team as a setup guy, along with Alan Embree, for Huston Street. Foulke also considered Arizona, San Diego, and the Mets among the more than 20 teams he auditioned for.
Here is the link to the article on the A's website.
Assuming he makes the team, the Indians will get to see the guy who was almost their teammate last year when they play in Oakland the first weekend of the season.
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The guy changed his mind. He had every right to do that.
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Please read the post I responded to, the reread my post. Pay special attention to the words "some" in my post.
It was a bit odd the way he hung 'em up, we were all surprised - that is pretty close to fact. My other two statements tried to explain why others may feel animosity towards him, since that was the original question.
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by JulioBernazard on Feb 9, 2008 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
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Foulke retired on 2/16/07.
Guthrie was designated when Trot Nixon signed on 1/19/07.
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by Jay on Feb 9, 2008 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
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by APV on Feb 9, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
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Elarton's first-inning numbers actually are not good, but being a reliever is not like being a one-inning starter. As a reliever, you don't have to establish your fastball and then work off it -- and your fastball is better anyway. He may be able to change speeds a lot better, or his control might be more stable.
Over his career (93% as a starter), he's got good numbers against first batters, and the difference between first PA and second PA (same batter in the same game) is significant -- a little more K, a little less HR -- which suggests batters adjust to his deception and movement over the course of a game. Take only those PA, and add in a little more velocity and separation, and who knows?
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His best work at the major league level is arguably his time spent in the Houston bullpen in parts of his first two years in the big leagues.
Then you look at his numbers in Buffalo last year. Granted, it was only 18 innings and he was probably used in not-so-close games, but he had a little success.
I'm not saying I'd keep him over Tom Mastny, and guys like Jorge Julio might figure something out, but Elarton's not a bad last man on the staff.
by rick @ Let's Go Tribe! on Feb 9, 2008 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
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He signed a free agent contract with Kansas City, was vastly overpaid, gladly took the money, and was the Royals
opening day starter in 2006, if memory serves me. Later was injured.
He gets by, barely, on questionable stuff. Fastball is a real feast for hitters. ERA over 10 last year, limited innings.
May be able to get 1/2 the batters out emerging from the bullpen. Wonder why we bother with such signings. It's not a serious attempt to improve.
Great remarks by APV and DixonCayne.
by DenverIndian on Feb 10, 2008 3:31 PM EST reply actions
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2001 - 79 IP, 4.69 ERA
2002 - 69 IP, 4.19 ERA
2003 - 4 IP, 12.46 ERA
2004 - signed by Indians to a minor league deal
Now I wonder what a sharp guy like you was saying when we signed Howry. I imagine it was something brilliant like this:
Wonder why we bother with such signings. It's not a serious attempt to improve.
Howry pitched 1.5 seasons for the Indians with a 2.57 ERA. He was guaranteed less than $100,000 and eventually paid about $1.1 million.
Betancourt has pitched 4.5 seasons for the Indians with a 2.80 ERA. He was guaranteed less than $100,000 and has been paid only about $2 million so far. The Indians also control his rights for another three seasons at bargain rates.
Blake has been an everyday player for the Indians for five entire seasons, with all-around production that is almost exactly average for major league starters. He has been versatile -- 443 games at 3B, 238 games in RF and 64 games at 1B -- and rather durable, spending only seven weeks on the DL (in 2006) and starting all but two games per month outside of that. He was guaranteed less than $50,000 and has been about $10 million over those five seasons. The Indians control his rights for one more season at a reasonable rate.
And that, my friend, is why we bother with signings like this. It takes work to scout minor league free agents looking for a spot, work to recruit former major leaguers and failed prospects into a non-roster contract, work to rehab or develop them. The Indians put in the work, for 20 or 30 guys, hoping to dig up three.
But I guess you'd rather they just sign a guy like Carlos Lee for $100 million. I guess that's the kind of thing you would consider "a serious attempt to improve."
I respect the work, beating the bushes, trusting your scouts, building an organization that's becoming known for rehabbing guys and resuscitating careers. That is a serious endeavor, as I see it, and I don't see anything particularly serious about writing a big check.

















