Fausto's mechanics
Maybe others here know more about Chris O'Leary, or have opinions of his work. But I found this link about his analysis of the mechanics of 20 top young pitchers, as identified in a recent SI piece.
Since predicting Fausto's future is a cottage industry here and elsewhere, I thought I'd pass along O'Leary's take:
"2. Fausto Carmona: Carmona's a gangly guy whose mechanics are a bit hard to read as a result (which always makes me cautious). I like the hip/shoulder separation. However, he's showing the ball to Center Field (which is bad for the elbow), his PAS elbow is a little high, and his timing is a bit suspect. Notice how his GS foot is about to plant but his PAS arm isn't vertical. My gut won't let me be very positive about such a flailing, gangly guy. Yes, Bob Gibson flailed around, but after he release the ball."
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Frankly I'm getting bored with all of the minutia analysis - let's get the goddamn season started already!
by mauichuck on Mar 19, 2008 3:30 PM EDT 0 recs
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Total non sequiter here, but what's your specialty?
by BostonWahoo on
Mar 19, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Mar 19, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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My "specialty" now is taking apart chemical munitions and destroying the chemical agent, usually one of the nerve agents, Vx or GB. But sometimes it's mustard agent, either HD or HT.
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Mar 19, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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Cue anyone who has met Chuck retching...
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by Harry Doyle on
Mar 19, 2008 5:06 PM EDT
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Mar 19, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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(apologies for lowering the tone....)
by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on
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... Ever been in a Turkish prison?
... Ever seen a grown man naked?
by Harry Doyle on
Mar 19, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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I hope you earn a hefty amount of hazard pay for a gig like that.
by Harry Doyle on
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He's big on keeping the elbow of the throwing hand below the shoulder during delivery because he says it reduces the risk of shoulder injuries.
Meanwhile, every other coach, trainer, and orthopedic surgeon I've heard speak on this wants kids to keep the pitching hand high (with the elbow, of course, following) fingers on top of the ball and palm facing the outfield (what this guy calls showing the ball to CF). The idea here is to reduce the bend in the elbow as you throw and limit stress to the ligaments and growth plates around it.
I'll risk the unsubstantiated shoulder injury over the likely elbow injury when it comes to my kids pitching. My oldest son drops his elbow all the time, and it's a habit we're working very hard to break.
His pitching coach was in the White Sox organization but never made it to the ML, he coached Bobbie Brownlie, a 14 year old team that made it to the final four of the national championship, and a couple of the Kean University pitchers who won the Division 3 national championship last year. I'll take that guy's view on the subject over this yahoo.
I don't trust his insights when it comes to kids, and I don't see what the point of this analysis is when it comes to grown ups.
by Harry Doyle on
Mar 19, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
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He tells a great story about being the last guy sent down during Spring Training every year, and another about giving up home runs to Carl Yazstremski.
He works in North-Central NJ, mostly with kids from around this area from around age 9 up to college. He's really good at working with kids, teaching them mechanics and strategy for pitching.
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Which isn't to say that pitching injuries aren't very real, but when a guy is whipping his arm around like that a hundred times every couple days (plus all the off-mound work), it doesn't matter how good your mechanics are, your arm is going to freaking hurt.
by CU Adam on
Mar 20, 2008 10:36 AM EDT
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Re: Fausto's mechanics
And we all know how that turned out - Onion link
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Mar 20, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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