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Why We'll Win

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My real prediction:  Another long season for Tigers fans.

I learned something from my post yesterday, from the way it not only didn't provoke much discussion, it actually seemed to chill discussion everywhere on the site.  It just seemed to trigger the latent resignation that flows in our veins as Cleveland fans.  Maybe I've should have known better, maybe I thought your intelligence would kick in, maybe I owe you an apology.

But people ... how could you fall for that?

Have you forgotten who and what this team really is?

The guys who went 96-66, the best record in baseball.

The guys who played through snow-outs, who played three home openers and won all three.

The guys who set the tone early by sweeping the Tigers in Detroit.

The guys with the best and deepest rotation, the most dominant 1-2 punch, the Cobra, the best big three, and the goddam Cy Young winner.

The guys who beat the best pitcher in the game five times in one season, when no other team had ever beat him three times.

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These guys.

The guys who stalled out in June and July but never collapsed, and the guys who charged back to dominate down the stretch.

The guys who took a surging Twins team, coming off a 9-3 run and threatening to get back in the race, and swept them both home and way, six wins over ten days , to end their season.

The guys who unceremoniously booted the Tigers out of the race with yet another sweep, sending them 7.5 games back when they could have been 1.5 games back.  That's the photo at the top, the first game of that series, Casey Blake with the walkoff in the 11th.

The guys who delivered a vicious beatdown to the Yankees in the playoffs, chilling and silencing a Yankee Stadium crowd.  The guys who – let's just put it out there – nearly sent the best team in the game home early.

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The guys with the fists.

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The guys with the grit.

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And the clutch.

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And yes, the guys who know all about pi ... and all about pie.

(Purely as an aside, when you do an image search for Chris Antonetti, one of the first results to pop up is this, which I take as just further proof that people must really, really love being a part of the Indians organization.)

Yeah, that's right ... those guys.  You love those guys, remember?  And they're more or less awesome, remember?

Those guys are back.  Those guys have gotten better.

Those guys are going to win this year, and this is why.

  1. Pure talent.  Seriously, did you really think the Tigers had more pure talent than the Indians?  Sure, the Tigers had some injuries, but they had a bunch of fluke seasons, and all it got them was 88 wins.  They had to import Miguel Cabrera just to try to close the gap.

    Let me tell you about a difference in talent.  On our club, we make Cliff Lee fight and practically grovel for the last spot in the rotation.  On their club, they trade for "the Cliff Lee of the NL" and hand him the #3 starter job.  When your #7 starter is about as good as their #3, that isn't just us having depth, it's them being in trouble.

    People ... half our roster was born in the 80's.  We aren't on the wrong side of 30, we're on the right side of 28.  Our roster is younger, less injury prone, and full of guys who could take small or large steps forward.  Garko or even Peralta could hit 30 home runs, and Sizemore could make a run at an MVP.  Our catcher created 109 runs last season, theirs only 59 – and our guy is 29, while theirs is 36.

    The Indians won 96 games last season, and our players as a group are on the rise.  The Tigers won 88 games last season, and their players on the whole are in decline.  MIguel Cabrera isn't enough to close that gap, and they traded most of their best young talent to get him.  The Tigers may have a hair more raw talent than the Indians on their roster, but too much of that talent is old and breaking down.

  2. Regression is a bitch ... for the other guys.  It's the most clear-cut, powerful and undeniable force in baseball – stronger than the age curve and more reliable than platoon splits.  The Tigers may seem poised to bounce back from a down year, but their 88 wins were propped up by a number of flukey career seasons, while our 96 wins by and large were not.

    Just look at the BABIP for the two teams' regulars.  The bottom of the list is Sheffield, who wasn't so much unlucky as he was playing hurt.  Then there's Hafner, who definitely suffered some bad luck even if that wasn't his only problem.  Then there's Inge, who won't be a factor, and Victor, who will.  Check it out:  Victor put up downballot-MVP type numbers despite hitting into some of the worst luck on either team.  It would be hard to bet on him improving on 2007, but his luck probably will.

    Now look at the top of the list – Ordoñez at .381, Granderson at .360, Polanco at .346, compared with their career marks of .314, .344 and .314.   And not even listed there – Renteria at .375, against a career mark of .322.  The snapback to reality on these guys is going to be enormous – PECOTA is mean-projecting a 56-run drop in production from Ordoñez alone – essentially negating the upgrade from Inge to Cabrera – to go with a 40-run drop for Granderson and a 30-run drop for Renteria.

    In fairness, PECOTA predicts every player to drop after a good season, but this is an extreme case.  Granderson production rate is not expected to fall off much – he will be 27 after all – but then again, Sizemore's high-looking .333 BABIP is actually below his career average, meaning he too was slightly unlucky, and Hafner also is a good bet to improve at least somewhat on 2007.  As for the Tigers, their best bounceback candidate is a 39-year-old who's missed 150 games over the past two seasons.

    So regression is a bitch for the TIgers, who won't score 900 runs this season, let alone 1000.  But for the Indians, regression helps our lineup and work out about even in the rotation, where stellar seasons from Sabathia and Carmona were evenly matched by trainwrecks from Lee, Sowers and Westbrook.

    And you know who else is due for some good luck with the balls in play?  Joe Borowski.

  3. Stellar depth.  Another one I can't believe you fell for.  How many teams have Josh Barfield as their 4th middle infielder, or Ben Francisco as their 6th outfielder, or Andy Marte as a backup third baseman, or Jeremy Sowers as their 7th starter, or Tom Mastny as their 9th reliever?  I'll tell you how many, none.  Every one of those guys would be playing in many other teams' lineups, rotations and bullpens.  It's totally ridiculous, and it's a great advantage, and it will absolutely matter this year, as it matters every year for almost every team.

  4. Stellar youth.  Of course young players are inconsistent, but they improve more often than they decline.  Our youngest and least experienced key players will start at 2B and RF this season.  Any risk there is strongly mitigated by the fact that for both players, much of their value is in their exceptional defense, which is far more predictable.  And besides, the bar is incredibly low for each – the chance that we'll get less production out of those two positions in 2008 than we did in 2007 is practically nil.

  5. Babied arms.  We have the best medical staff in the game, and they know how to protect pitchers.  Case in point:  Westbrook has never been more effective than in the second half last season, and this Spring he looked even better.  Carmona is going to be fine, he breezed economically through almost every start last year, hardly ever pitching under stress.  C.C. may show a little wear, but it won't break us.  And as for the other guys, who cares?  Our guys break down less than on any other team, and besides, we've got that stellar depth, too.

  6. Wacky bullpens – not a problem.  You don't ever really know about bullpens.  Some years they collapse, some years they're stellar.  Here's the thing though ... last year, our bullpen collapsed and was stellar.  Just look at the body count:  Foulke, Oldberto, Matt Miler, J.D., Fernando – and most of the flame-outs were happening while Sowers, Lee and Westbrook were struggling to get into the 4th inning.

    That's enough to break most teams' bullpens, which in turn is enough to break most teams – but not the Indians.  They planned ahead, stocked up.  Spent most of the decade acquiring and developing arms, then picked up four veterans in the offseason – and they took good care of Rafael Betancourt.  That gave them a full boat of experienced guys in Cleveland, plus 4-5 young guys on the brink in Buffalo – plus Jensen Lewis in Akron.

    So despite all the flame-outs, the Indians finished with the 6th best bullpen ERA in the majors – not only didn't the bullpen sink the Indians, it was actually a strength.  The Indians keep 21 pitchers on the 40-man roster for just 12 big-league jobs, and this is the reason why.

    And now they've done it again, picking up Kobayashi, Julio, and Breslow to replace Oldberto, Miller and Fultz.  And this year, we've got Perez and Lewis taking the place of two multi-year head-scratchers.  And young'uns Mastny, Mujica, Santos and Stevens in Buffalo.  And who's to say we won't have another surprise breakout like Lewis' last year – Scott Lewis?  J.D. Martin?  Tony Sipp?  Adam Mller?  It's not that any one of these guys is likely to contribute, but the Indians have a ton of pitchers in various states of development and repair, and they basically never trade any.  At some point, it becomes more likely than not that one or more will contribute, even from the rehab bin.

    The Indians start off with a strong bullpen, full of guys with strong track records and hard-to-hit stuff, and it's considerably more stocked than Detroit's .  But more than that, the Indians are very well prepared for the inevitable struggles, injuries and flame-outs, and the Tigers are not prepared at all.  Wacky bullpens can sink almost any team, but they'll have a lot of trouble sinking these Indians.

  7. Good timing.  Wedge finally figured out how to beat Pythagoras last season, so we're all good now.

  8. That guy, finally.  It's an even-numbered year, and that can only mean one thing:  Miller Time.  I don't know if it'll be in the bullpen or the rotation, but Atom Miller will be healthy this year, and that means a bunch of big-league hitters are going to be striking out.

  9. Lack of Vizquel, Thome, Manny, Millwood, and soon Sabathia, too.  It may be strange to say that losing Sabathia is part of why we'll win, but it is.  This team, as much or as any team in professional sports, is run by grownups.  They respect players, and their affection is palpable, but when it comes to making decisions, they leave their sentimentality at the door.  They don't kid themselves – they know you can find great insights in statistical analysis, but they know it doesn't have all the answers.  They're rigorous.  They're pros.  They've avoided the Big Mistake that sinks the season – or multiple seasons.  And they've never, ever made decisions based on trying to save face with the fans.

    They've built a great team with that approach, and I'll tell you just one more thing about them ...

  10. Grit.  Dammit, I'm telling you these guys got a lot of grit.  Victor's got grit.  Shoppach is brimming with grit.  Sizemore will be diving in the outfield when he's 50.  Stomp Lewis has to take medication just to keep his grit under control.  Borowski has nothing but grit, but he'd never complain about that, because he's so damned gritty.  Betancourt, he's got all that and a bag of grit.

    And our much-maligned left field platoon, Dellucci and Michaels, those guys've got more grit than most entire rosters.  You people should be worshipping at their gritty, clutchy, diving, ass-slapping feet.

    And what I'm trying to tell you here, and I don't even know if it's right or natural or legal, but ... Diamondview's got grit.  I don't know how they did it, but they got grit into the Diamondview somehow, and now it's spitting out chemistry and intangibles and That Elusive It Factor along with the usual performance projections and market undervaluations.  We've never seen anything like it, but I'm telling you ... Diamondview's got grit.

    And by the way ... Scott Elarton?  Tom Mastny?  Ben Francisco?  That's right, even our depth has grit, which means that even our grit has depth.  If somebody gritty were to go down – and they often do, because that comes with playing the game the right way, you know – we've got someone else ready to step in and play just as gritty – someone gritty enough to start on most teams.  It's totally out of control.  It's enough to make Darin Erstad retire and Joe Morgan's head explode.

So let me sum it up for you.  We've got the talent, the timing, the grit, the smarts, the chemistry and the momentum.  We've got everything worth having on a ballclub, and the only question to be settled is whether we're the best team in the game or merely the best in our division.

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It's our year.  And it starts today.

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HELL YEAH

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 11:09 AM EDT   0 recs

Post of the year, and it won't be close.

Awesome pic of Casey Blake, though I have to say that Peralta's game-tying opposite-field bomb stands out even more in my mind. That was the moment when I shed my queasy "In the back of my mind I dread a Tigers sweep" mindset and just said, "F it, we are the best team in baseball and we're not going to lose."

Well, we are the best team in baseball, and we're not going to lose.

by tabler84 on Mar 31, 2008 11:12 AM EDT   0 recs

Sox fan here....

Two things: 1) The Tribe looks darn good this year (yes, I'm the spokesman for the obvious); and 2) How does the weather look for Opening Day today? Are we going to get this thing in today? Good luck to you in 2008.

by palehose67 on Mar 31, 2008 11:12 AM EDT   0 recs

Southsiders see hope
Clevelanders see lake effect
Cloudy, chance of bombs

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by BostonWahoo on Mar 31, 2008 11:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is there another team out there with a better combination of age, talent, and depth? No.

Go Tribe!

by APV on Mar 31, 2008 11:18 AM EDT   0 recs

So you really think Antonetti is interested in girls?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 11:28 AM EDT   0 recs

I do believe that we have a good season of Indians baseball ahead of us.

Go Grady, Vic, Pronk, Droobs, Franklin, CC, Fausto, Garko, Raffy L&R, Westbrook, Blake and all the rest!

Let's go Tribe '08!

by cclemens31 on Mar 31, 2008 11:32 AM EDT   0 recs

Goosebumps. I'm sufficiently fired up.

by bogey021 on Mar 31, 2008 11:35 AM EDT   0 recs

is it weird that i just made that pic of anton, wedge and shap my desktop wallpaper?

by Brick. on Mar 31, 2008 11:40 AM EDT   0 recs

no.

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 11:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would say that's slightly weird, but it's Opening Day, so who cares.

by gte619n on Mar 31, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jay - nice work on deciding to put "Why we'll win" second in the series. Best sequel...ever.

by Thommy on Mar 31, 2008 11:44 AM EDT   0 recs

BTW, can anybody tell what my little icon is?

by gte619n on Mar 31, 2008 11:47 AM EDT   0 recs

wild thing rick vaughn

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 11:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

little front/back action going

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by BostonWahoo on Mar 31, 2008 11:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Excellent. It's hard to find a picture that shows up nicely.

by gte619n on Mar 31, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

All righty, I feel like we let you down a little on your "losing" post. Several of those items are plenty easy to deal with:

1. Tigers have a more talented lineup, but this statement: "several of our key players are over 30 (Dellucci, Michaels, Hafner, Borowski, Byrd, Kobayashi)" ... well it's not a particularly tight definition of "key players". There's one key player in there, and he's a DH, who was good, but not great last year. Anyway, it's all relative, and I'd put our list of under 30 key players up against anybody's.

And if you're going to use the idea of a "solid bet" - well the Tigers are far from a solid bet to stay healthy.

2. This one worries me the most, but we were much better last year, youth is on our side, and doesn't defense seem like a skill that wouldn't wildly fluctuate, but develop over a young players career and then slowly being to subside after 27 or 30 or 33.

3. Sure, but that's the point about depth. Cabrera's struggles are poisonous only if paired by another year of Barfield failure. Looking at it another way, a whole year of Cabrera, even with him falling back some, will still be an improvement over last year.

I think our expectations for Gutz in 2008 are still reasonably low, by which I mean somewhat replaceable. Worse case scenerio: Hello? Kenny? Are you busy?

4. Well now, this one, combined with the bullpen depth comments in 6, is like bemoaning the talent level on the Indians Top Prospects Lists, without recognizing the young talent that was recently brought up. Of the 4 relievers we waiting in Buffalo in April 07, 3 are still on the depth chart. But the main point is that the ML pen is in much better shape. Yeah, it's a bullpen, so who knows? - but what else can you do but assemble a group of arms that have been successful. And you left out Stevens. Stevens.

5. Wedge's biggest challenge. Marte is a distant #2.

6. Let's say we have 7 players (Aubrey and Snyder are just let's-see-what-happens guys). They aren't the core of the offense, they are complementary. You're playing word games here. Even if they are each only a 25% shot at being production (which is pretty low), the odds that they all suck (or all but a couple) are not great. And even then, we'd need some of our core hitters to drop off too for the offense to really suffer. It could happen. It's not a solid bet.

7. That guy. If he's good and healthy, we'll have a spot for him. If he's not, well, actually, we don't have a spot for him.

8. Fine OK.

9. First we win the game. Then the pie comes. That's the order.

10. I say we go get Omar.

by dgcambridge on Mar 31, 2008 11:51 AM EDT   0 recs

Completely irrationally of me, I would LOVE to get Omar back as a utility man/ubergrit leader. I want him to be pouring champagne on Sizemore come late October.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Mar 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

1/3 of our games were ONE RUN games in 2007. (29-24 record in those games)

The most entertaining season .. ever!

by Toxicadam on Mar 31, 2008 11:52 AM EDT   0 recs

I was just taking a look at BP's PECOTA-based 2008 standings and I noticed something a little odd - Detroit is projected to score only 849 runs and give up only 757 runs. Seriously?

I don't begrudge anyone for picking the Tigers to tie or beat the Indians. I think its a perfectly reasonable prediction. While I agree that case can be made for the Tigers scoring only 849 runs because of an aging roster, how in God's name is the Tigers' pitching expected to be as good as ours or Boston's?

On another note, I got really bored yesterday tabulated the Net Win Shares Values for each team, in each class. Guess who the kings of bang for your buck were - the Indians.

(figures are in thousands of dollars)
NWSV

by crazymoloh on Mar 31, 2008 11:55 AM EDT   0 recs

awesome

by APV on Mar 31, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's a mismatch somewhere there on Detroit's RS-RA. Sheehan's AL preview article, dated yesterday, lists them at 921RS, 726 RA, which does seem more reasonable. This makes them a 93 win team, and not a 91 per the depth charts. The tribe is just behind at 91 (833 RS 734 RA - again a slight difference from the depth chart #). Which team will win the division this year is a toss-up, they're both great squads.

by Thommy on Mar 31, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone want to provide us with a composite comparison of the PECOTA breakout%-collapse% for the two teams?

by APV on Mar 31, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think they do it for teams, just players, and I'm too lazy to do the math.

by Thommy on Mar 31, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wait, wait, Detroit's pitching gives up fewer runs than the Tribe's staff? What the hell is this guy smokin'?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree. The DEA needs to crackdown on the baseball stat community for abusing the reefer.

by crazymoloh on Mar 31, 2008 12:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Even this local Maui stuff won't give you the requisite pre-senile dementia necessary to believe this kinda crap. And we grow some powerful stuff out here, in case you haven't heard.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hahahaha

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

haha, just caught this post. Epic.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Apr 1, 2008 11:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

726 RA? Did you mean 826? 726 RA would probably make them the best pitching team in the AL. I'm starting the to think too many people are buying the Tigers' pitching a little too soon.

by crazymoloh on Mar 31, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry

Wow, bad time for a typo...sorry. 796 RA, not 726. Gotta be sharp around here.

by Thommy on Mar 31, 2008 12:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Don't let it happen again!

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 12:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How does anybody get anything done today? I was just going to take the afternoon off, but I can't think about anything else. Opening day rules.

by Thommy on Mar 31, 2008 12:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Also, could Ned Colletti be a worse GM? The Dodgers young talent is mostly the work of Dan Evans and Paul DePodesta. Almost all the free agent screw ups were Colletti's doing - Jason Schmidt, Juan Pierre, Luis Gonzalez, Brett Tomko, Nomar Garciaprra and Esteban Loaiza. The Dodgers' Net Win Shares Value for free agents looks even worse when you consider that Brad Penny, a DePodesta acquisition, had a Net Win Shares Value for +$10 million. So Colletti's signings really underperformed their salaries by $30M - IN ONE YEAR!

p.s: I might stop making fun of Bill Bavasi given that has managed to squeeze some decent performance out of his free agents.

by crazymoloh on Mar 31, 2008 12:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So what's the over/under for the game thread today...700?

by cclemens31 on Mar 31, 2008 12:18 PM EDT   0 recs

I'd take the over on 1400.

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by BostonWahoo on Mar 31, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

way, way over.

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We'll be close to 500 by the National Anthem.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Mar 31, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

also, this post belongs in the game thread, not here. haha.

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 12:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can't help it, the anticipation is getting to me!

by cclemens31 on Mar 31, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed, we're pushing 2000 today. This site, and the other quality ones, are just going to keep growing. It might be a whole different story in a year or two.

by dgcambridge on Mar 31, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm so pumped for this year, more so than any other since I've followed so many of the players come up thru the minors. My Dad lives in NY and I already have tix to the early Yankee Stadium (final year for the house that Ruth built) series in May pinned to the fridge. I was there last April when A-Rod hit the three run bomb to send us scurrying out to jeers. I'd like nothing better than to get on the Bronx train after the game having kicked their ass.

Next step is the series and the ring - we got a great shot this year. Go Tribe!

Annnnnnnd.... what's the weather like on the lakefront right now?

by mcrose on Mar 31, 2008 12:18 PM EDT   0 recs

I got for seats in the nose-bleed section for the May 6 game. Wanna meet at Mario's in the Bronx and manga before the game?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 12:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Chuck... any chance you could snag a few more tix for that game? John and I and my roommate would love to go.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Mar 31, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah sure. How many?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 12:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lemme get back to ya. I think three... me, John and my roommate. But I gotta talk it over with them since it's a weeknight.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Mar 31, 2008 12:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe we'll organize a LGT trip to the Heart of Darkness - pimp it on the Fanshots?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 1:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'd be up for that!

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Mar 31, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Im still serving in southeast CT, and will DEFINITELY be going to that series in NYC as it is my last chance to see the current Yankee stadium before they tear it down. Hope to see you guys there.

God truly does hate cleveland sports.

by Gradysmanldy on Apr 1, 2008 11:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Chuck, I'm coming in to town just before the Thursday day game, praying for sun. You going to that game as well? I got tix second row top tier, just to the 3B side of home. Wanna get some pix of the whole stadium - if I recall from last year, you can't really walk around the whole park anymore, they cordon people to their sections.

Just noticed the flaming cap - you find that on the net or did you flambe it yourself?

by mcrose on Mar 31, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Brick found that for me after a floundered around looking for an avatar. Thursday huh? Let me look into it. I'd love to get 20-30 guys to go to the game. Ya think Julio's up for it?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Mar 31, 2008 1:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm going, I'll have upper deck seats.

by Voltaire on Mar 31, 2008 9:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

OK, drop me a line, my email address is in my personal data file. I'm going to Mario's on Arthur Ave. before the game. We can meet up there.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Apr 1, 2008 7:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Still updating ... see main article ...

by Jay on Mar 31, 2008 12:19 PM EDT   0 recs

what's 4?

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There is no 4, unless proceeding directly to 5. 5 is right out.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Mar 31, 2008 12:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but I thought this one goes to 11?

by APV on Mar 31, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the holy hand grenade of antioch?

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by Gradyforpresident on Mar 31, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Instead of relying on my faulty memory, I should have looked it up, and then posted this:

"Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out."

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on Mar 31, 2008 1:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And I thought I couldn't get more pumped!

LET'S GO TRIBE!!!

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Mar 31, 2008 12:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Is it too early to start putting up Images of our Magic Number?

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on Mar 31, 2008 12:34 PM EDT   0 recs

What a post. WOOOOOOOOOOOO! GOOSEBUMPS!!!!

by supermarioelia on Mar 31, 2008 12:36 PM EDT   0 recs

Jay, how many words have you put out in the last 3 days? Incredible. You are making Joe Posnanski look lazy.

by oxforddave on Mar 31, 2008 12:51 PM EDT   0 recs