Game Fourteen: Red Sox 5, Indians 3
| Highest WPA | Lowest WPA | ||
| Paul Byrd | .219 | Jensen Lewis | -.341 |
| Victor Martinez | .207 | Asdrubal Cabrera | -.220 |
| Ryan Garko | .203 | Jorge Julio | -.172 |
Different night, same late-inning collapse, but with a bit less vitriol. Unfortunately, a loss is still a loss.
Again, the Indians' starter did much better than expected. Again, the Indians' offense had opportunities to break the game open but failed, and again a Tribe reliever committed the cardinal sin of relieverdom, the 9th inning home run.
The seeds for tonight's loss were sown yesterday. For after Rafael Betancourt threw 1.2 innings on Monday, he wasn't going to be available tonight. Which normally wouldn't be that big a deal, but after Joe Borowski was shunted to the Disabled List, the Indians were left with a thin back end of the bullpen. And because Paul Byrd rarely goes deep into games even when pitching well, Eric Wedge was going to have to steal an inning or two with guys not inducted into the Circle of Trust.
Fortunately, Paul Byrd pitched as good a game as he's capable of, allowing 6 base runners in 6 innings. The obvious change from his first couple outings was the command of his pitches. Byrd always has a definite plan to get hitters out, but those plans require intricate placement of pitches. Tonight he stayed on the corners or just off, and fooled Boston's lineup for six innings.
Meanwhile, the offense wasn't helping much, though they didn't lack for opportunities. They left a runner on third in the second, runners on the corners in the third, and runners on first and second in the fourth. They finally got that big hit in the fifth, when Victor Martinez drove home two runs, the culmination of an excellent at-bat. But true to form, Jhonny Peralta ended the inning by grounding into a double play.
So when Paul Byrd left the game, it was just a 2-1 contest, meaning that the Indians' depleted bullpen would have to hold Boston scoreless for the next three innings. Wedge tried to sneak in Jorge Julio in the seventh, as the Red Sox had up the bottom half of their order, but Julio couldn't hit the strike zone, and was removed after walking the first two hitters he faced. Rafael Perez limited the damage, but again, this left a gap in the relief coverage for the rest of the game. Jason Varitek was the sixth batter Jensen Lewis faced.
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Can we all just take a moment and admire Ryan’s prose?
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Cool. Thanks, Ryan!
by fleerdon on
Apr 15, 2008 11:12 PM EDT
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I still love you baseball … even when you smack me and call me names.
by Toxicadam on
Apr 15, 2008 11:21 PM EDT
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ah hell.
so, wedge was holding masa in the event the indians took the late lead? indicative of his closer rankings?
by emil minty on
Apr 15, 2008 11:44 PM EDT
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Lewis pitched well. Sometimes, despite what they tell us, good hitters hit good pitches.
by SuddenSam on
Apr 16, 2008 12:00 AM EDT
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Perez pitched well, too. Unlucky.
Julio, I’m not saying.
by SuddenSam on
Apr 16, 2008 12:04 AM EDT
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It’s a good pitch to most hitters, but Jason Varitek loves pitches low in the strike zone. I’m pretty sure Lewis wanted to stay up with that pitch, but missed.
by Ryan on
Apr 16, 2008 12:04 AM EDT
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I have to find some fault with Vic. Lewis hit the mitt, and Victor had it set up low and on the outside corner. It wasn’t REAL low, but enough that it found Varitek’s zone. Also, I found a bit of a problem with the locations during the Vartiek AB. Even though they’re (Willis, Wedge, etc.) are surely going on a book on Tek, 3 consecutive pitches (including the homer) were almost in the same location. (Away and below the belt) I was hoping they’d come high and inside on him at least once to shake things up. m
It was still a good pitch, but it was in too much of Varitek’s ‘wheelhouse’ I guess.
by emd2k3 on
Apr 16, 2008 10:58 AM EDT
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JakeSinger makes much the same point in his post below.
Mix LOCATION and speeds!
by emd2k3 on
Apr 16, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
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Hello everyone,
Another disappointing loss – it seems like all of our luck of late is bad. Every time we make a mistake (Gutz’s error in RF,) the other team scores. Every time we don’t take advantage of a great scoring opportunity, we always seem to lose the lead (Peralta’s DP.) Every mistake the other team makes, seems to work out against us anyway (Lugo’s poor bunt that moved the runners up and got him on board as well.) Every poorly hit ball by the other team, they still benefit (Lowrie’s near DP ground ball and his seeing-eye 2-run single.) Argh!
Sooner or later (preferably sooner,) we have to turn this around – it would be nice if CC finally pitched a good game.
Also, this story is not encouraging for the following reasons.
JoeBo’s weak excuse for facing the Red Sox when he knew he wasn’t 100%.
Wedge’s intentions of putting him back in the closer’s role when he returns and “is healthy.” He also wanted to see if Borowski could get out of that mess, since he’s “gotten out of worse,” which is why he left him in there.
So far, I’m not all that thrilled with Wedge’s decision-making this season, just like I often wasn’t 2 and 3 seasons ago. As I mentioned in the game thread, there’s only so far you should take “loyalty” and “decisive roles”; once it interferes with your ability to win ballgames, you should mix it up and not stick to “decisive roles” and “loyalty.”
And like I’ve said before, JoeBo is not signed beyond this year; Betancourt, Perez, Lewis, and Kobayashi are, so eventually, Wedge is going to have move past JoeBo – why not start now and stick with it, especially if it’s working?
I really can’t see why you’d take Betancourt out of the closer’s role if he’s doing well to very well in that role to put the enigmatic Borowski back in there. I’m not sure Borowski’s own teammates are that confident in his ability to get the save; I know most of the fans aren’t (not that our opinion should really matter, but even watching the other Indians, I bet they even think, “Here goes JoeBo again,” when he gets in one of his own messes and coughs up runs.)
Come on Wedge – wake up and smell the coffee! :-)
Just my 2 cents – no offense.
The "cream of the crop" doesn't always rise to the top.
by indiansfan on
Apr 16, 2008 12:08 AM EDT
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I’m a bit scared.
I think relief is, of all the uncharted territory in baseball, one of the scariest. The statistics don’t make any sense and don’t translate well year to year and everyone within baseball is obsessed with reliever “mentalities.”
Frankly, I’m afraid bullpen destruction is an insidious force that systematically wrecks a group of 6 pitchers once it’s taken hold, with a level of disregard to their ability or track record. I’d be interested to see if terrible bullpens aren’t sometimes composed of decent pitchers that got sucked into a spiral of doom in the first few months of the season.
I’m just scared. I think the bullpen is sick and I don’t know that there’s any cure, except for “get better, pitchers.” And I’m not sure that’s possible.
by afh4 on
Apr 16, 2008 12:37 AM EDT
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My take on Jensen’s pitching tonight:
He pitched to lowrie and got him swinging on 3 identical fastballs (at the same, low/outside spot that Varitek took him deep with). Then he got one swinging strike by Varitek (or maybe it was 2) on the exact same pitch.
Before the homerun pitch, my friend and I, watching the game, had the following exchange:
Him: That’s a nice pitch.
Me: Yeah, he’s thrown that four times already and gotten them to swing over it!
Him: You gotta wonder how long that’s gonna last.
Me: Yeah, he’s gotta mix something up here, I’m not sure he could get that same pitch by him again.
[As Victor sets up at the exact same spot] Me: Uh-oh, it looks like he’s going back there..
The rest is history. Basically what I’m saying is he threw the same 88 MPH fastball (granted with what looked like some pretty nice movement) at the same spot 5 or 6 times to 2 consecutive batters and Victor should have known better than to call for it again. At least throw the batter off balance or something!
Anyone else see it the way I saw it?
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on
Apr 16, 2008 1:34 AM EDT
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I also thought he pitched well. Jensen seemed to throw at least one pitch right past a swing of each batter he faced. Coco looked particularly helpless in two of his swings, before lucking into a defensive single.
by jhon on
Apr 16, 2008 10:13 AM EDT
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Yeah, the bullpen was bad. But how about the offense? For the homestand, they were 40/164 with 5 doubles, 1 HR (.244 AVG/.293 SLG). The last extra-base hit was a double in the eighth inning on Sunday, 18 innings ago. The only HR, a solo shot by Peralta, was back on 4/11.
Meanwhile, they have 21 walks, so it doesn’t appear that the offensive miscues are a result of impatience.
Here’s how they scored their 24 runs for the homestand
On a single: 15
On a double: 2 (on 4/11)
On a HR: 1
BB: 2
HBP: 1
WP: 1
It’s probably just one of those things. Just a coincidence. A run of bad luck. A meaningless sequence of events with no common causality. Right?
by InfiniteMonkeyTypists on
Apr 16, 2008 8:47 AM EDT
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I hope it’s just bad luck, but I’m unpleasantly reminded of a recent season when the Indians seemed to lose all the close games. Sometimes it’s little things that beat you in close games—a bad pitch location, a shortstop who doesn’t get to a ball (???), an error. You can call those bad luck, but it can also be the difference between a really good team (which the Sox appear to be) and one that just doesn’t quite get there (I really hope that’s not the Indians 2008 version).
Two things that really struck me last night. Victor Martinez is great (and is really trying to put the team on his back). He had some of the most brilliant at-bats I’ve seen lately and just seemed to be willing the team to win. And, he produced!!!
Travis Hafner’s at-bat in the 9th was the WORST at-bat I’ve ever seen. He looked like he’d been hypnotized.
P.S. Do we have to add “free Masa” to the “free Marte” drumbeat?
by peter m on
Apr 16, 2008 9:09 AM EDT
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Sometimes it’s little things that beat you in close games
My favorite solution to that is to open up bigger leads. And it’s not like we got railroaded by a pitching staff on fire, like the Royals’. These were hittable pitchers. I’m saying it: We choked.
by fleerdon on
Apr 16, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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They were hittable, but I’m not sure about the choke argument. When guys who haven’t been hitting continue not to hit it’s hard to describe that as a choke. More like a hitting slump, a bad approach, or just plain bad hitting. Or else Blake, Gutierrez, Michaels, Cabrera, Peralta and Hafner have been “choking” for 2+ weeks.
by peter m on
Apr 16, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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absolutely. 1 for 10 with RISP. The bull pen could have been better, but with JoBo and Raffi out, you’ve gotta blame this loss on the bats.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on
Apr 16, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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Was at the game last night. Too many annoying Boston fans, not enough Indians runs.
Hafner’s AB in the ninth was pretty ridiculous. I have no idea why his bat didn’t leave his shoulders and I don’t think I want to know.
While I realize the Cobra’s effectiveness is limited to some algorithim of times he faces each batter, he only had thrown around 80 pitches after 6 innings. Was anyone else at least a little surprised we didn’t see him come out in the 7th on account of our thin back end?
by painaxl on
Apr 16, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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Yes, I was surprised. Good point about the challenge he faces each succession through the batting order after the second time. Maybe Wedge didn’t want to take a chance of putting Julio into a situation when his back is already against the wall (e.g., after Byrd gives up a lead-off double).
In the end, I can’t fault Wedge for pulling Byrd. How can a manager expect a veteran pitcher to walk the first two batters?
Spidey
by Spidey on
Apr 16, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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Byrd was pulled because he only managed to throw about 40 pitches in his last outing and the Indians didn’t want to stretch him too far.
by RachelAnn on
Apr 16, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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Another question for you – did the fans ever face off?
I’d love it if we can start a “Red Sox Suck” chant, or a “Yankees Suck and Red Sox Swallow” chant. I know we will sound as pathetic as the Red Sox fans did 3-5 years ago, but it’s time to treat them as part of the Axis of Evil that they are…
Spidey
by Spidey on
Apr 16, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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The fans in my sections seemed to face off a bit. Whenever a “let’s go Red Sox” chant was started up, fans got really loud in attempt to drown them out. It’s always annoying to listen to fans of the champions when the breaks are going their way.
Personally, I’ve always been a fan of more positive chants rather than “Red Sox Suck” type of stuff. I think that just getting louder and being louder in support of your own team (in your own park, no less) is the classy response.
by painaxl on
Apr 16, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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I am trying to imagine myself ever starting a chant for my team in another team’s home park. Nope, I just couldn’t ever do it, and I would be embarrassed at any other fan of my team who was.
by Jay on
Apr 16, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
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That’s the difference between you and similarly inclined fans of The Nation and the Empire, etc.
We wouldn’t do it. They think it’s their right to do it.
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on
Apr 16, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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I went to a red sox game 2 years ago and started a “Yankees Suck” chant. That was both A) acceptable to the fans and B) really fun for me
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
Apr 17, 2008 9:11 AM EDT
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I don’t think it’s fair to crucify Travis for one bad AB (lord knows he’s had entire weeks that looked like that). He has looked much better overall the past few games.
by Toxicadam on
Apr 16, 2008 10:17 AM EDT
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here: http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/G/armando-galarraga.shtml
in case anyone wants to know who’s will be complete game 2-hitting us tonight. i looked at the preview and thought detroit was trotting out the big cat.
and yes, i no longer know how to post a link on this site.
by emil minty on
Apr 16, 2008 10:51 AM EDT
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Here’s another starter who could CG 2-hit us right now:

by fleerdon on
Apr 16, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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If she can throw a breaking pitch on the outside of the plate, you’re right.
by peter m on
Apr 16, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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You know something, I’m calling myself out for irrational negativity. This is getting ridiculous. I’m joining Roger in self-imposed suspension. See you in 2 weeks. Could somebody do me a favor and feed my Hiremarte Fish while I’m out?
by fleerdon on
Apr 16, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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yep
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.
by Gradyforpresident on
Apr 16, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
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I’ve got a kid on my 7 year old little league team who may be able to no hit the Tribe
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on
Apr 16, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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The bullpen will look a lot better if CC and the offense get untracked
by palcal on
Apr 16, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
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I didn’t read/participate in the game thread, but did anybody point out that Lewis was only hitting the mid-80s on the gun? That is Borowski territory. Lewis has deception and all, but is this not worrisome?
by oxforddave on
Apr 16, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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It’s worrisome and I believe it has been noted before. I know our resident velocitologist, TribeJay, has commented that Jensen is traditionally a slow starter. So the hope is he warms up by May and starts throwing faster, I guess.
The real question is how his inability to throw full speed in April is affecting his relations with the young ladies that Mario always sees waiting for him. They must be patient.
by NickFantana on
Apr 16, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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Most young ladies I have known actually prefer a reduced velocity.
by Jay on
Apr 16, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
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Lewis also makes up for a lower velocity with his mechanics. His motion (often called herky-jerky) makes it hard to pick up the ball coming out of his hand.
so, he’s got that going for him…
"It's hard to win when you don't score." Cliff Lee, 9/28/05.
by Harry Doyle on
Apr 16, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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It’s kind of like he’s a 33 being played at 45 rpm once he gets in his motion, no?
by jhon on
Apr 16, 2008 5:30 PM EDT
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Velocitologist – very nice. Can I put that on my resume?
Yes, his velocity is down from last year. He was 89-90 regularly last year (Fangraphs has him at 90) and 86-87 this year (Fangraphs has him at 87).
Jensen himself claimed he was a slower earlier in the year so he didn’t run out of gas at the end. I wouldn’t know, I had never seen him pitch prior to his promotion last year.
He does hide the ball well, but obviously 90 is better than 87.
by TribeJay on
Apr 16, 2008 7:20 PM EDT
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Forgot to add that it seems like he’s better now than he was in the spring or in the first week. No data to back that up, however.
by TribeJay on
Apr 16, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
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Chill
Too early to worry. Baseball is a marathon, not a sprint, yada, yada, yada… But really.
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Apr 16, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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