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The Game

Unlike most sites, we were "lucky" in that the game we'd have been Game Threading was delayed by rain.

The game has been rescheduled for today, 6:10 p.m., with Carmona still scheduled to start.  Today's originally scheduled 8:10 p.m. game has been pushed back to 9:40 p.m., with Lee still scheduled to start.

The Rotation

Jeremy Sowers will make the spot-start on Saturday, filling in for Jake Westbrook.  This is a mild surprise, as Aaron Laffey has slightly better numbers so far this season for Buffalo.  Wedge has said that Francisco is likely to be sent down to make room for Sowers ("I told Benny it's more than likely just a couple days.")

An unfortunate side-effect of the postponement of last night's game is that, if two games are actually played tonight, the Indians will need not just one spot starter on Saturday, but also a second spot starter on Monday.  With no rest day until May 5, the Indians would have to start Carmona on short rest on Monday in order to keep the five-man rotation in order, even with Sowers added.

Instead, the Indians will need another spot-starter on Monday, and that game's starter will also be lined up to take the mound the next time he's needed, on Saturday, May 3.  In other words, if both games are played tonight, then Sowers likely will be sent down to after this Saturday's game, to be replaced by another pitcher who can start on Monday and the following Saturday.

One would think that would be Laffey, but Laffey is scheduled to start for Buffalo tonight, which would put him on short rest for a Monday start.  Tantalizingly, Monday will be Adam Miller's turn in the rotation in Buffalo.  Miller emerged from March's rehab and April's extended spring training to make his official 2008 debut last night, pitching five innings and giving up three runs, though none earned, throwing 84 pitches and looking "completely healthy."  He has never pitched in the majors.

After May 3, the fifth starter could be skipped until May 12, but if Sowers is demoted this Sunday, he will not be eligible to return until May 17.  Given the Indians' fondness for playing with a 27-man roster, with four reasonably good spot-starter options in Buffalo and on the 40-man roster – these three plus Brian Slocum – we may well see three different spot starters over the next month if Westbrook remains out that long.

Westbrook is eligible to return from the DL as early as May 6.

The Site

As you probably noticed, the site was down last night, along with the entire SBN 2.0 network.  There was a massive but intermittent failure following a significant server upgrade performed the night before, and the network couldn't be brought back online without making significant changes and diagnostic tests.  The problem turned out to be bad RAM, but as those with an IT background can attest, it's very rare to have bad RAM cause intermittent problems rather than immediate failure, which made it hard to track down.

Naturally the SBN folks are deeply disappointed and frustrated to have had these problems, and naturally we all were annoyed by it — and naturally, this whole experience has the technical team already planning out deeper redundancies and "more paranoid" upgrade processes (their words).  On the other hand, I believe there's been less than ten hours of downtime on SBN over the past 30 months since I got involved, and the technical ambition of the 2.0 network speaks for itself.

Things may be a bit spotty for the next day or two, but we're told that the major failures should be over.  For future reference, we'll post updates on the LGT Facebook group forum in the event of a significant outage.

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Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Apr 24, 2008 10:44 AM EDT reply actions  

lmfao, gfp

I saw there was one comment and I figured it was someone posting exactly those two words. And yet you make even a two-word post expressive in the artful ommission of punctuation.

by tabler84 on Apr 24, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

brick’s fault. somehow.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Apr 24, 2008 11:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

the biggest annoyance last night was that i was dying to see the continuation of the genesis argument. it was driving me crazy wondering what was next.

by Brick. on Apr 24, 2008 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

I was able to put the Genesis argument out of my mind without a whole lot of trouble, but I’ll have to admit I found the construction sign-go and get a hot dog, we’ll be back momentarily-infuriating after the first 4 or 5 hours.

by ken from alexandria on Apr 24, 2008 11:10 AM EDT reply actions  

POTW.

They’ve really gotta change that graphic.

by supermarioelia on Apr 24, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

is there an official POTW system now? I saw that part of the week in review story. if so, are we to “actions” “rec” the comment?

by Brick. on Apr 24, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just thought it fortunate that the site was down during a rain delay then postponement.

That meant I didn’t have to go cold turkey on Let’s-Go-Tribing during a game, which may have caused me physical distress and an Inability to Root.

by Julie on Apr 24, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Question: would it make more sense to call up Laffey for the start tonight against the Royals, and then have Carmona ready to go on extended rest next Monday? Carmona would be missing a start either way, and I think the matchups would favor the Indians. Granted you lose 1 game of Francisco in OF, but I would take that.

by millionairesrow on Apr 24, 2008 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

That’s the last straw. I’m going back to chiseling stone tablets.

by elsandito on Apr 24, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Jay – what was your secret alternative forum for today’s Game Thread? Royals Review? (But wasn’t it all of SBN that was down …? Hmm …)

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Apr 24, 2008 11:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I had a few ideas, but my favorite was that we’d invade the SBN Buckeyes blog, Around The Oval, unaffected by the outage since it’s not yet on the new platform.

by Jay on Apr 24, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

wow, that would have been pretty cool. It would be very retro.

by Ryan Kelsey on Apr 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

hostile territory for me, I’m afraid…

by APV on Apr 25, 2008 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

giving up three earned runs, though none earned

Huh?

by JulioBernazard on Apr 24, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Adam Miller

Somebody remind me how calling up Miller for 1 start would affect his options and arbitration time.

If he’s just up a few days, that barely counts against arbitration, but it uses up one option regardless?

LeCavs!
If you were good enough, maybe we'd name it after you.

by Matt in LA on Apr 24, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

man. options are used up when a player is sent down (whether they were UP in the birst place or not, not brought when a player is brought up. Any player in the minors this year, has used his option for the year already.

by Brick. on Apr 24, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

man.

options are used up when a player is sent down (whether they were UP in the birst place or not, not brought when a player is brought up. Any player in the minors this year, has used his option for the year already.

by Brick. on Apr 24, 2008 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

From ESPN

“Options”
After three years as a pro, a player must be protected on a team’s 40-man roster, or he is eligible for the Rule 5 draft (more on that later). Once he’s served those three years, and assuming he is added to the 40-man roster, his club then has what are called “options” on him.

When a player is on the 40-man roster but not on the 25-man Major League roster, he is on “optional assignment.” One common misconception about the rules is that a player may only be “optioned out” three times. Actually, each player has three option years, and he can be sent up and down as many times as the club chooses within those three seasons.

When you hear that a player is “out of options,” that means he’s been on the 40-man roster during three different seasons, beginning with his fourth as a pro, and to be sent down again he’ll have to clear waivers (more on those below).

by Brick. on Apr 24, 2008 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

if they were to choose Miller, and he went on to shut down the yankees, can we start bloviating about him in a joba-esque manner?

by Brick. on Apr 24, 2008 11:58 AM EDT reply actions  

No. Because Joba was a gift from Lord Tyron of the Andromeda galaxy, sent to earth as a child to help liberate the Milky way from the awful free agent bullpen acquisitions of the New York Yankees in the star calendar year forty six, ninety two point five.

Or some s**t like that, if you’ve ever talked to a gushing Yankees fan.

NBR (No Borowski Run): Refers to that run which puts the Indians up by 4 over an opponent, thereby drastically reducing the chances of Joe Borowski pitching in a game.

by crazymoloh on Apr 24, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, if Laffey throws 90-something pitches tonight, we’ll know that Monday is MILLER TIME, baby!

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on Apr 24, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m already scouting ticket availability for Monday.

You know Selig? Ombudsman.

by rolub on Apr 24, 2008 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s get that Adam Miler Show™ going! Aside from some troubles with working with runners on base last year, Miller proved all that he needed to prove (non-health wise) last year.

p.s: Don’t look at his season ERA. Before getting hurt he started 11 games with 2.50ish ERA and a WHIP close to 1.00. AAA couldn’t touch him. He’s ready!

NBR (No Borowski Run): Refers to that run which puts the Indians up by 4 over an opponent, thereby drastically reducing the chances of Joe Borowski pitching in a game.

by crazymoloh on Apr 24, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Eeep

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Right now, I'll take .500 and run. I'm a cheap happy.

by vbc3 on Apr 24, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

game thread?

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on Apr 24, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, I hate when IF singles hurt Fausto. Not that they have a ton but they’re frustrating.

by afh4 on Apr 24, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I was up til 3 a.m. getting ready for a morning exam. Four hours later, just before my alarm went off, I was having this dream.

The Royals had declared today Ross Gload Day. Figuring the more, the merrier, a bunch of us LGTers decided to honor the holiday as well with a (non-internet) party. I was going to bring the cake. The cake appeared to be raw ground turkey covered with an inch of chocolate frosting. I had left the cake on the top shelf of the pantry. I tried to get it down, but it was heavy, because it was large and made of poultry. I dropped it. The ground turkey and the chocolate frosting were all mixed together now. The cake was ruined. But I decided to bring the cake to the party anyway. It was a party, and I was going to make the best of it.

I only wish I was making this up. Happy Ross Gload Day, LGT.

by fleerdon on Apr 24, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks, you guys, for getting that SBN graphic changed. Much obliged.

by ken from alexandria on Apr 24, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

You might be surprised how much discussion of that there was on the SBN blogger forum.

by Jay on Apr 24, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, thanks again. I think I reacted so strongly because it reminded me of the Washington Metro, where they provide assurances that “we’ll be moving momentarily” whether they even know what the problem is, much less the cause.

by ken from alexandria on Apr 25, 2008 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

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