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Game Thread: April 27, 2008

New York @ Cleveland




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Sizemore out of the lineup. Dellucci leading off. Gutz in CF.

by xrickx on Apr 27, 2008 12:18 PM EDT   0 recs

What? Isn’t his consecutive game streak on the line?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 12:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is curious.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He did seem to pull/hyper extend something in the 9th inning yesterday. Would a Sizemore injury explain the Snyder call up? I don’t see how, but that’s all I have.

NBR (No Borowski Run): Refers to that run which puts the Indians up by 4 over an opponent, thereby drastically reducing the chances of Joe Borowski pitching in a game.

by crazymoloh on Apr 27, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yea, it is. But keeping him healthy is more important than some streak. He turned his ankle yesterday, and it must be sore. Explains the Snyder callup…

by xrickx on Apr 27, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He still stayed in the game. Let’s hope it’s not that serious.

As for the Snyder callup… that’s just weird. Even if you needed an emergency OF, you’ve got the Blake/Marte/Carroll switcheroo

CALL UP MILLER.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

is it me or have Wedge and Shap seemingly forgotten Blake can play the OF?

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on Apr 27, 2008 12:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s not you.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 12:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, but this way we get michaels in rightfield against a tough righthander! woo-hoo!

by macasson on Apr 27, 2008 12:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, I imagine playing the field (at a major league level) isn’t exactly like riding a bike. Blake had to do A LOT of work in the offseason before he played OF. Now that he was penciled in for the year at 3B, he didn’t see ANY time in the OF during spring training.

NBR (No Borowski Run): Refers to that run which puts the Indians up by 4 over an opponent, thereby drastically reducing the chances of Joe Borowski pitching in a game.

by crazymoloh on Apr 27, 2008 12:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can only hope that there’s something about Blake in the OF we don’t know, because if there isn’t, then it seems like a huge and stupid mistake not to have him ready to play there.

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You know, I looked at Blake’s career splits by month yesterday. He seems to peak in April and June and fall off pretty dramatically from there. So might this support your theory that Marte is going to start seeing regular time in the early summer; i.e., the Indians figured they’d only need a few months of Casey Blake anyway? No? Grasping?

by fleerdon on Apr 27, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate consecutive game streaks.

by SuddenSam on Apr 27, 2008 12:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

seconded. i hope this ends it.

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well yeah they’re meaningless, but it’s kind of a cool thing to have our own “iron man.”

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There’s no benefit in it. Just don’t get me started on Cal Ripken.

by SuddenSam on Apr 27, 2008 12:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, haters.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Some genius over at one of the PD blog sites said, and I quote, “I hate haters” Talk about self loathing.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Apr 27, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s not “hating” to note that baseball is a team sport.

by SuddenSam on Apr 27, 2008 1:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know, I know. And that’s why Grady’s out… he’s not selfish. Just saying it’s cool to have guys that are that durable, but not to the point where it gets detrimental to the team (Ripken).

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 1:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How confident are you that Sizemore’s streak hasn’t hurt his performance?

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow, didn’t expect people to jump on me for an innocent statement about his games played streak. How would anyone know if the streak has affected his playing? He’s had rests here and there with occasional pinch-hit appearances. But seriously, who would know if/how that has affected his play?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Turk, stop being so goddam sensitive, that’s what I’ll jump on you for!

I am not jumping on you, I was asking a valid goddam question!

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ah, my bad. Don’t know why I’m being such a baby. Apologies all around.

Anyway, though, it would be difficult to tell if it had affected him. For a guy as young and healthy as Sizemore, I’d say no, but I’ve got nothing to really base that on. What’s your take on it?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My take is, we don’t really know.

April was his best month last season, especially in terms of power, and he lost a lot of power in September.

HR by month … 5, 4, 4, 5, 5, 1.

He stole 17 bases in April/May, 16 the rest of the way.

It doesn’t probably mean anything, but it’s enough to bug me a little.

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Power numbers are pretty striking, but how much of the base stealing dropoff was Wedge being more conservative, though?

It’s funny, I’ve never really thought about how these consecutive games streaks can affect teams. I hadn’t heard until a couple of days ago that the consensus on Ripken was that he hurt the team quite a bit in his later years.

Also!

Did ya get my e-mail about Philly?

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 2:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, I did, I just have no idea what I’m doing.

I doubt Wedge had much to do with it, but again, it means nothing statistically, just an inference.

1st half :: 24 SB, 3 CS
2nd half :: 9 SB, 8 CS

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 2:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ouch at the CS numbers. Interesting. Do you know, in general with a guy like Sizemore, how often is it the player’s choice to steal and how often does the manager call for it?

As for Philly, no worries. Just drop me a line if you think you’d be up for it.

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 3:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Man what a great weekend up in Cleveland. Was at the game yesterday… absolutely perfect. Best taunt of the night came from my friend Soko:

(as Jeter came to bat): “Hey Jeter, your defense is below average!”

Burn on, big river, burn on...

by Turkmenbashi on Apr 27, 2008 12:23 PM EDT   0 recs

God I hate the Yankees.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 12:42 PM EDT   0 recs

how does bbtn manage to open with a feature on the yankees without mentioning the indidans?

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 12:46 PM EDT   0 recs

OT: Pittsburgh released Matt Morris today and the ESPN headline was ‘Pirates make struggling vet Morris walk the plank’. Awesome.

by ASP on Apr 27, 2008 12:48 PM EDT   0 recs

The wire story says that releasing Morris costs the Pirates $10 million.

This is simply false. Releasing Morris costs the Pirates nothing.

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 1:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sigh. Can we for once call up a guy and just say, whatever, you’re playing. Just for fun, maybe? This seems pretty egregious to me. Michaels, in right field, against a right-handed sinkerballer, with a left-handed premium defender on the bench?

by fleerdon on Apr 27, 2008 12:49 PM EDT   0 recs

I hate this.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 12:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Snyder’s a premium defender?

by ASP on Apr 27, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that’s what the cool kids are saying these days…

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

in 08 michaels has 31 PA v RHP against 25 v LHP. not really how you want to use him.

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In ‘08, Michaels has 56 PA. Not really how you want to use him.

by fleerdon on Apr 27, 2008 1:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so who goes down for Laffery, Mastny or Snyder?

by palcal on Apr 27, 2008 12:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Probably depends on Grady’s ankle.

by SuddenSam on Apr 27, 2008 12:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mastny hasn’t pitched in 11 days. we could give him an effing start a this point.

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 12:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe we will!

Just like last season, anyway. Fungible.

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 1:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hope we get good CC tonight.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 12:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Yes, Buck, exactly. The Indians have won five games in a row because of C.C. Sabathia.

by Jeffrey R on Apr 27, 2008 1:02 PM EDT   0 recs

is it just my TV or does it sound like the TBS guys are broadcasting from inside a cave?

by ASP on Apr 27, 2008 1:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Actually they are inside a cave – the NORAD complex to be precise. That way they’re insulated from contact with anybody who actually knows anything at all about baseball. Can’t you tell from their broadcasts?

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mine too. Buck Martinez >> Tim McCarver

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We didn’t want to be greedy, so we thought we’d hand a game to NY.

by elsandito on Apr 27, 2008 1:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Saturday was the first game since Opening Day that an Indians reliever has won a game, ending a streak of 10 straight victories by starters

by palcal on Apr 27, 2008 1:06 PM EDT   0 recs

Roll, Big Wahoo, roll.

by elsandito on Apr 27, 2008 1:07 PM EDT   0 recs

yes network trumpeting garko’s errorless streak?

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 1:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Kinda neat that we’re watchin three different broadcasts today.

by supermarioelia on Apr 27, 2008 1:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

1st pitch strikes make me smile

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 1:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Seriously, nobody likes the Yankees.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:08 PM EDT   0 recs

nice cleats, CC

by ASP on Apr 27, 2008 1:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Down in Atlanta, I’ve got my TV on the Tribe, PIP on the Cavs and Braves/Mets on the retune. It’s tough.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Check Damon for substances

by elsandito on Apr 27, 2008 1:09 PM EDT   0 recs

Like excessive Axe bodyspray.

by fleerdon on Apr 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wait…you can put on too much

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah, spray on too much, and girls actually just sexually gratify themselves off your scent as opposed to hook up with you. It’s a fine line, obviously.

by fleerdon on Apr 27, 2008 1:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

1st pitch strikes still make me smile

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT   0 recs

DP Watch in effect

by SuddenSam on Apr 27, 2008 1:10 PM EDT   0 recs

What was wrong with that

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:11 PM EDT   0 recs

SQUEEZED

by ASP on Apr 27, 2008 1:11 PM EDT   0 recs

Anyone think they’re playing Michaels a lot in the hope that he’ll make himself trade-able again? It hasn’t worked well, obviously, but it would at least be rational to try that (and would help me understand why he’s on the field today against Wang).

by peter m on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM EDT   0 recs

I’ll buy it.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no…the potential value of anything we could get for Michaels wouldn’t make up for playing him now if the Indians truly think we’ve got a better internal option

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It’s 162 games long dude – you can play a stiff for a coupla of ‘em and not hurt the club. He can only screw up so much.

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on Apr 27, 2008 1:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well, Wedge did say it won’t be long before Francisco is helping out at the major league level, and Choo will be back eventually. That’s what makes me wonder/hope that they’re trying to move Michaels.

by peter m on Apr 27, 2008 1:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what is going on

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM EDT   0 recs

ERA below 10 alert.

by bogey021 on Apr 27, 2008 1:12 PM EDT   0 recs

Good sign… CC is really pounding the strike zone.

by Jeffrey R on Apr 27, 2008 1:13 PM EDT   0 recs

C’mon CC.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM EDT   0 recs

nice

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM EDT   0 recs

NasCC

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:14 PM EDT   0 recs

CC has a 88mph change

by elsandito on Apr 27, 2008 1:16 PM EDT   0 recs

What the f was that AB, CC?

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:16 PM EDT   0 recs

squeezed or just balls?

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on Apr 27, 2008 1:17 PM EDT   0 recs

young Shelley Duncan? Really?

by APV on Apr 27, 2008 1:17 PM EDT   0 recs

The average life expectancy for an American Born Zombie-Person is 75 years… so sure, he’s young.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he’d be one of the oldest guys on our team

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

28YO ROOKIE

by palcal on Apr 27, 2008 1:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It is incredible that professional baseball broadcasters don’t know the difference between a 24-year-old rookie and a 28-year-old rookie.

by Jay on Apr 27, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

paul oneil thinks CC’s topping out in the high 80s. anyone?

by emil minty on Apr 27, 2008 1:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Fox has him at 92-93mph.

by gte619n on Apr 27, 2008 1:18 PM EDT