Game Thread: April 8, 2008
by Ryan
on Apr 8, 2008 9:25 PM EDT
Cleveland @ Los Angeles
Gametime: 10:05 (STO)
To salvage some fragment of hope from last night's debacle, consider this: last April 19th, Joe Borowski couldn't hold a four-run lead at Yankee Stadium, giving up a walk-off home run to Alex Rodriguez. (You remember the game, but here's the box score if somehow you've excised that painful experience from your memory). The loss brought the Indians' record to 6-6, which was the low-water mark for the season; the Indians won 10 of their next 12 games and never sniffed .500 again.
Jamey Carroll's back in the lineup, still at second, but this time subbing for Jhonny Peralta. Asdrubal Cabrera will play shortstop, which will improve the infield defense behind Jake Westbrook, tonight's starter.
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At .228, Indians are 12th in AL batting average. slightly ahead of Seattle (.225) and Oakland (.218)
The Angels are tops at .298
by palcal on Apr 8, 2008 9:33 PM EDT 0 recs
I clearly recall that game. I listened to Hammy's call on the radio and tore apart my dorm room in disgust. Last night when Hunter hit his GS, I just hung my head and laughed a little bit. It's still early, no need for me to get too worked up yet.
However, gentlemen now would be a good time to bring the lumber out of hiding.
by mjschaefer on Apr 8, 2008 9:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Delucci is 6 for 12 against Santana. Can he finally get a hit tonight?
by palcal on Apr 8, 2008 9:37 PM EDT 0 recs
Droobs at SS will be interesting to me. I still feel he is HIGHLY overrated defensively here on LGT (and other Indian fan forums).
I want to be wrong.
by Toxicadam on Apr 8, 2008 9:38 PM EDT 0 recs
On this forum and every other forum that speaks of defense? Seriously, I have never heard he is overrated defensively.
by JesseAK on
Apr 8, 2008 9:46 PM EDT
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I think his range might be a tad overrated...but his hands are what makes him a good defender.
by TribeJay on
Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Ervin Santana is a solid 0-5 against the Tribe with a 7.59 era. and a .322 BAA.
Might be the medicine we need.
by mjschaefer on Apr 8, 2008 9:43 PM EDT 0 recs
Last night reminded me immediately of that meltdown last year. I went to the game in the Bronx one or two nights before (Sowers got rocked) so I remember thinking, "Well, at least we picked up one" as the game headed into the ninth. Oh well.
Here's hoping for a similar turn around. If they win tonight, I'll engage the usual selective memory for JoeBo performances.
by baergagaga on Apr 8, 2008 9:48 PM EDT 0 recs
The only thing worse than a game like last night are the awful 1-0 losses, like we had last year against the Reds. Tonight's gonna be better by default. Excited for Cabrera at SS.
by maledicta on Apr 8, 2008 9:51 PM EDT 0 recs
for suckitude or excessive use?
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a little stitious.
by jakesinger777 on
Apr 8, 2008 10:08 PM EDT
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Reuters is claiming that Raffy B. officially broke one off in Borowski's.....well, you know. Day-to-day with broken ankles and rears.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on
Apr 8, 2008 10:10 PM EDT
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Single by Hafner! hard hit or bloop??
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a little stitious.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 8, 2008 10:10 PM EDT 0 recs
Time to smack one clear to Pasadena.
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by vbc3 on
Apr 8, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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(he said in the way wrong part of the thread)
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen
by vbc3 on
Apr 8, 2008 11:24 PM EDT
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Underwoood said he ran through a stop sign. Even Skinner wouldn't have sent Hafner there. Sheesh.
by Fiddlesticks on
Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Skinner held him, Travis went anyway according to STO.
by Fundamentals on
Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT
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Guys, Undermanning said he ran through the stop sign
by Roger Dorn on Apr 8, 2008 10:12 PM EDT 0 recs
Maybe he just assumed he could score on Guerrero's wet noodle arm.
by Captain Pabst on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Gamecast: Hafner thrown out at home, RF Vlad to 1B Casey Kotchman to C Jeff Mathis..
What actually happened?
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a little stitious.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Victor singled just inside the bag at first, into the bullpen. Hafner ran thru the stop sign at third and was thrown out at home by 30 feet.
by Fiddlesticks on
Apr 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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Its never good when the catcher gets the ball before the runner is even in view of the camera.
by Fundamentals on
Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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That was a bad time machine
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Bizarro gamecast summary of that sequence:
Hafner singled to center.
Martinez singled to right, Hafner out at home.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Clearly, Skinner made this face:
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on
Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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Most non-hobbled runners get a 2B out of that hit
by Captain Pabst on
Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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It was well hit right on the 1st baseline. Vlad got over there slow, but still inexplicable to go from 1st to home
by Roger Dorn on
Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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What, you didn't expect that? It's such a logical outcome.
by Julie on
Apr 8, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
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Let;s not lose sight of the fact that Victor is awesome
by Roger Dorn on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
On replay, according to Underwood, Skinner gave a "subtle go sign" to Hafner. Whatever that means.
by Fundamentals on Apr 8, 2008 10:13 PM EDT 0 recs
Slow bouncer down the first base line, Guerrero wasn't very deep, threw to the first baseman, relay had Hafner by 15 feet.
by TribeJay on Apr 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT 0 recs
Stop being negative, Jay.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on
Apr 8, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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Wheeee.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen
by vbc3 on Apr 8, 2008 10:16 PM EDT 0 recs
boy - has this been an absolutely hideous 1st innning
by westbrook on Apr 8, 2008 10:17 PM EDT 0 recs
Westbrook is a great defender, made a bad throw. Pretty rare
by Roger Dorn on
Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM EDT
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This is getting fun. And by fun I mean I have a headache.
by supermarioelia on Apr 8, 2008 10:18 PM EDT 0 recs
From espn Page 2: Fun Fact: Third baseman Chone Figgins' first name is actually pronounced "Shawn." And his last name is actually pronounced "Weinberg" (it's a silent "Figgins").
by Julie on Apr 8, 2008 10:19 PM EDT 0 recs
among matthews, westbrook, martinez, and the home plate umpire, the only person who thought that 1-2 pitch wasn't the third strike was the umpire. nice.
by xrickx on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM EDT 0 recs
Well, at least the ugly goes both ways.
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"I love baseball. You know it doesn't have to mean anything, it's just beautiful to watch." - Woody Allen
by vbc3 on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM EDT 0 recs
Dellucci just barely made the throw from LF to the cutoff guy. Figgins tagged to 3rd on a fly ball to LF. Has he always had that weak of arm?
by Fundamentals on Apr 8, 2008 10:20 PM EDT 0 recs
dellucci was running into the LCF gap, and Figgins is one of the fastest runners in the game.
i'm game to bitch about everything worth bitching about, but this just isn't one of 'em.
by xrickx on
Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM EDT
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So fast that even when freezes on line drives, he's halfway to the next bag.
by FranklinScott on
Apr 8, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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I'm not necessarily complaining about him not getting Figgins out. The throw was THAT bad though. It was a lob. It was a Kenny Lofton/ Coco Crisp/ Johnny Damon-esque throw. I knew Dellucci didn't have a great arm, but I didn't think it was that bad.
by Fundamentals on
Apr 8, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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He was going in the opposite direction. Your choice is either to stop, plant and throw strong or just lob it back. Either way, there's no way to get Figgins.
by FranklinScott on
Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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I feel like that should tell us to all kind of settle down. We're fine!
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a little stitious.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM EDT 0 recs
wow. that was lucky. without the infield in that likely gets a run home. all is right with the world again (for now)
by mpstable on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM EDT 0 recs
z
what just happened? I'm on duty, watching on gamecast that doesnt live update.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on Apr 8, 2008 10:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Line drive to Cabrera at short. Figgins, running on contact, doubled off third.
by Fiddlesticks on
Apr 8, 2008 10:22 PM EDT
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Never mind, it caught up and I caught the jist. Woot.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on
Apr 8, 2008 10:23 PM EDT
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You know, it looks like Skinner actually sent Hafner. Egad.
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by vbc3 on Apr 8, 2008 10:23 PM EDT 0 recs
I think I jinxed it in the game summary thread from yesterday saying I was glad that we kept Skinner around to coach third
by Roger Dorn on
Apr 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
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Yeah, a season of overcompensation awaits.
This year, EVERYBODY gets sent.
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by vbc3 on
Apr 8, 2008 10:26 PM EDT
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Is tonight the night our left fielders get a hit?
by Captain Pabst on Apr 8, 2008 10:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Second AB Delooch bounces one up the middle. He'll also draw a base on balls late in the game.
God truly does hate cleveland sports.
by Gradysmanldy on
Apr 8, 2008 10:25 PM EDT
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I don't like outs very much.
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by vbc3 on Apr 8, 2008 10:26 PM EDT 0 recs
That's the way to make him work!
I'm not superstitious, I'm just a little stitious.
by jakesinger777 on Apr 8, 2008 10:26 PM EDT 0 recs