I kinda like this.....I had always sort of leaned towards Spiders as a potential replacement, but wasn't too enthusiastic. I could see this as an option.

I've always liked the Spiders idea, but the "worst team ever" stigma is really hard to get around.

I think the Chief is on the way out (5 years or less) but they'll ultimately stay with "Indians" as the nickname, which scares me because I really dislike the script "I" hat.

I've always been partial to Spiders as well, but you make some good points, particularly the Cleveland/Cincinnati dichotomy and the C/B logo possibilities.

Personally, I think "Forest Cities" would be great, but I understand that it would be fairly ridiculous long term. Also, Broncos (or Bronchos, I think) should be right out. I don't understand why you dismiss Naps off the bat. We could have a hammock in centerfield and one lucky fan per game gets to go out and watch from there or something.

Let's embrace the midge. The Fightin Midges.

No one is currently using Rockers. ; )

and to think the team was named IN HONOR OF an american indian.

while the logo may be offensive and outdated, a transition to the script "I" resolves the problem. changing the name defeats the purpose of honoring the man for which the team was named.

To me, Chief Wahoo and the Indians name are two very separate issues. I'd have less problem moving away from Chief Wahoo caps... I really don't want to be called anything other than the Indians though.

The Cleveland Blues? I guess, but it doesn't really do much for me. Tradition? eh, it was the current frachise's name for 1 season and it was a former National League team that was in Cleveland for a few years in the late 1800's. I guess the Blues/Browns thing is kinda neat, as is the Blues vs. Reds. But what are we a state of colors? Are we really sad? There isn't really a tradition of blues music in Cleveland, is there?

Unless someone can come up with a decent name relating to a big lake, a crooked river, Rock N Roll, etc. than I guess I'd prefer the Forest Citys. It has a real connection to the city, it is the official nickname of the city, I believe.

In the end, I agree with Adam, above- the Chief might go, but the name won't/shouldn't. I hope the block C hat on this year's new Alternate unis or maybe the crooked C hat from the 70's catches on, because I also don't like the script I.

Am okay with the Blues, but I think that actually fits better with New Orleans or Chicago, towns that embrace the Jazz and Blues scene.

Something alluding to Rock N Roll would be cool. And no not the Rockers .... association with an WNBA team would be easy pickings for opposing fans.

While the Naps is cool because Lajoie, the connotation of Naps would also be bad I think. Maybe something about Feller would be more appropriate?

I have no problem with the Script I myself, but I may be in the minority there. But I do believe the Chief logo is on its way out. I don't think they will rename the team though.

Maybe the Cleveland Cuyahogas? Nah, too many would just recall that river fire I guess.

I like the script I, for what it's worth.

My wish is that they stick with Indians and ditch the Wahoo (even though I have fond memories of the one that adorned Municipal Stadium) -- make him a small sleeve patch if nothing else.

I also would like a hybrid retro uni ... button-up, off white with the crooked C and the greek/caveman typeface on the front.

I like the Spiders. Worst team in history or not, I don't care. It is at least something. I get annoyed by teams like the Reds, Red Sox, White Sox, etc. They aren't anything. I want the team to be named something. Plus, I'm entirely okay ditching interleague and the "rivalry' with the Reds, which is severely contrived. Making it the Reds v. Blues only makes it sound like a gang war and nothing more.

The Spiders name has some history to it, although not necessarily positive, and would continue to allow for a hat/logo that was more than a letter or two. Some of those logos are nice. The Yanks, Cards, Cubs are symbolic hats. Outside those few teams, its simply teams playing it safe with the logo. They aren't logos, they are simply letters. With the Spiders, you could at least steal it from the U. of Richmond and have something that is passable.

Plus, I really don't understand the love for the crooked C. It has nothing to do with the team and looks really bad, IMO. Plus, if we're worried about the tie to bad teams, that wasn't exactly a shining beacon in Indians history.

What about going waaaay back and calling them the Infants? They could still use the script i hats.

I would not miss Chief Wahoo at all, and AFAIC, the sooner the Chief goes, the better. Indians as the team name can stay or go, but let's get rid of the Chief first and then discuss the team name. One step at a time.

I cannot for the life of me remember where I read this (maybe the DiaTribe?) but we can keep the Indians name and drop Wahoo AND preserve tradition. Make the primary logo not the current script I, but an I formed by the feather from Wahoo's cap. Something like this (very rough idea):

The I could stand alone as the primary logo with some additional attention.

Can anyone link me to the original source of this?

If you thought the uproar over "Progressive Park" was bad, I can't imagine how many people would go apepoop over changing the actual nickname of the team.

I'm somewhere in between. I definitely don't want to change the name of the franchise (don't hear them Irish complaining), but I can't stand the red-faced Chief Wahoo logo. Its no different from other ridiculous racial caricatures (tiny-eyed east asian characters or huge lipped black characters). It never used to bother me as a kid, but somewhere along the line I started to feel a little ridiculous wearing anything with Chief Wahoo's face on it. Haven't worn an Indians hat or jersey since. I'm starting to get into the script 'I' hats and definitely love the old school jerseys the Indians wore on opening day.