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Game Thread: May 10, 2008

Toronto Blue Jays at Cleveland Indians, May 10, 2008 7:05 PM EDT





W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Dustin McGowan 2-2 7 7 0 0 0 0 42.2 40 15 14 2 17 34 2.95 1.34


W-L G GS CG SHO SV BS IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP
2008 - Aaron Laffey 0-2 2 2 0 0 0 0 12.2 7 5 4 0 3 6 2.84 .79

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On an unrelated note, Jason Michaels is batting in the 3-hole for the Pirates tonight. Even with all of our offensive struggles, we were never forced to do that.

by nomar363 on May 10, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

When did Delichaels officially separate? When we DFA’d Michaels or before? Cause our half of the platoon has hit in the three hole for about over a week now

by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Omar 2-for-4 in his 2008 debut!

by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Vernon Wells will not be in the lineup tonight, or tomorrow, or any other time in May or (probably) June. He broke his wrist last night and is out 6-8 weeks. Jeremy Accardo also joins the ever-expanding Toronto DL, with Super Joe Inglett and Armando Benitez getting the call-ups.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

was Joe able to join Syracuse before he was recalled?

by palcal on May 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

HIRE ANDY GOD DAMN MARTE

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Casey’s been pretty decent hitting the last couple days. His 5 RBI over the last three games have been pretty nice.

by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

RBI?

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I missing something here?

by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let’s get Laffey a much-deserved win here.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Toronto:
Rios CF
Wilkerson RF
Rolen 3B
Mench LF
Stewart DH
Overbay 1B
Scutaro SS
Zaun C
Velandia 2B

Cleveland
Sizemore CF
Carroll 2B
Dellucci LF
Martinez C
Gutierrez RF
Hafner DH
Garko 1B
Cabrera SS
Blake 3B

I saw Scutaro again called “former Indians farmhand Marco Scutaro” in the paper today. That clumsy nickname has stuck to him as well as “former Panamanian strongman Manel Noriega.”

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions  

former Indians farmhand Marco Scutaro

people really do like calling him that, don’t they…

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

HAMMY SAYS IT

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

laffey taffy

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

hooray for new acquisitions hitting 2 and 4.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

K

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

niiiiice

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually,

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

umm, hire laffey

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE LEADOFF HOMERS

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

yeaaa grady!

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

RUNS!!!

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Two of them, in total!!

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hire No Out First Inning Rallies!

by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

YOU’RE DOING IT WRONG

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

damn it Zaun – stop blocking these

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

That was a great pitch (diving grab by catcher to prevent wild pitch).

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Show no mercy. Score 4.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Three (3) total runs. One out. Me likey.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE #S NOT USUALLY SEEN ON OUR LINE SCORE

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

EXCEPT IN THE TOTAL HITS COLUMN

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOLTRUE

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

More multi run innings start with a walk or a HR?

by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Hafner will hit a rally-killing HR here.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or get hit. Whatever.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sizemore already did that. This rally is entirely imaginary.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was wondering why the runs didn’t really “feel” right.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

C’mon, Asdrubal. Keep the inning alive!

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn. He’s slow.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

O YEA

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions  

YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE MENCH’S ARM

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Can we bat around? It all comes down to Casey Blake.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Thank you!

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

HIRE GOOD BASERUNNING!

by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions  

I value the bloop hit.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work team. Now Laffy go to work.

by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

come on – bookend HRs…

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions  

manning, i like blake’s rbi as much as anyone, but i will NOT call him “mr clutch”

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Hammy simply complemented he’s leading the team hitting 9th and left it at that.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we call him Captain Clutch?

by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

So, now that that’s finished:

HIRE 37 PITCH 5-RUN FIRST INNINGS

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

6?

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did the pitching coach even come out of the dugout once that inning to try and kill the momentum (if you believe in that kind of thing)?

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions  

unless i missed it, no.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

He came out during Victor’s at bat

by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope Laffey doesn’t give up a few runs to get back that old feeling

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions  

The worst out in that inning was Garko’s groundout the 2nd which pushed Vic and Haf to 3rd and 2nd, respectively. That makes it a fiiiiine inning.

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions  

YES LAFFEY. He just doesn’t like giving up baserunners early in games.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

That was deliciously quick.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions  

i love aaron laffey

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

17 pitches so far!! HEY OH!

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions  

How awesome has Martinez been this year, by the way? This awesome:

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Oh come on. It deleted my answer.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeter hit his first HR today. Vic will too.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Please don’t turn into a boring shut-out from now-on game.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I’ll take a 6-0 win.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, me too, but that’d be boring from now on.;

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh victor, i love you to death, but you are sooooo slooooow

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I see we’ve found an offense.

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions  

someone pointed this out before, and its manifestly obvious, but it is absolutely incredible that aaron laffey is our number 6 starter. our starting rotation is so good that laffey sowers and miller are in the minors if everyone is healthy.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I have a sneaky feeling that Byrd goes to the pen when Jake comes back.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

that may be. i imagine its hard to send laffey down if he stays this hot.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

what good would he be in the pen with a rotation like that? we already have 2 guys out there who never get to pitch.
if jake comes back and is healthy, byrd’s vest value to us might be as a trade piece. but i doubt that happens. most likely they give laffey a pat on the back, send him down and say “great job kid, you’ll be up here to stay next year”

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Byrd will be traded to the Mets or Phillies in June.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

can you imagine having byrd and moyer in that rotation. in that park?

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

The word you’re looking for is “ludicrous.”

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

And by the way, a year ago, we were having the identical discussion about Carmona. “How can this guy be our sixth starter? That doesn’t even make sense.”

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love aaron laffey

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

jay – care to venture an educated guess about what happens to laffey when westbrook returns?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think in fact he’ll be going back to the minors. Keep in mind that our entire rotation has injury questions. I think they would have to really like a trade in order to give up a piece of that depth.

If they’re going to make a trade, making a more substantial one, for a non-rental player, generally will make more sense. Sowers is the likely target in that deal, it seems to me. As for shipping Byrd off in a lesser deal, I think depends not only on the return but on the continued health of Miller and progress of Huff.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is probably correct. because we may in fact not need a bat (how crazy did that seem on wednesday?)

and are you suggesting Laffey will be our #2 next yr? ;)

I wonder if Fausto would have turned out differently if he had actually been forced to pitch a game in the minors after his send-down last year.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am on record, I think, as pencilling Laffey into the 2009-2013 rotation. As for #2, there are a few other candidates.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes I agree that Laffey should/will be in there. As for #2, I was just running wiht the Carmona comparison u made.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Laffey turns into a lefty Carmona, I am just going to freak out. Guys with low strikeout numbers are not supposed to succeed. It’s against nature!

Laffey is 16 months younger than Carmona, by the way, so he’s on a very similar path so far. He’s the youngest guy on the roster except for his personal catcher, AbaCab.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

well played

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

dude if we had fausto, westbrook and laffey giving us groundball goodness i would be damn near engorged

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re right. It’s not even fair.

And the other two apparently will be Lee and Miller.

Which brings us back to: ludicrous.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

If we really had all three of those guys in our starting rotation on a regular basis I would really want to the FO to make an effort to move ‘drub to short and get a slick-fielding 2B into our lineup, even if they’ve got a subpar bat. But then again, maybe I’m overestimating the synergistic value of great infield defense and a ridiculously ground-ball focused pitching staff.

by APV on May 11, 2008 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was talking in the offseason about moving Peralta to 2B long-term for exactly this reason, but there is a need for AbaCab to prove he can stay in the majors first.

On the other hand, if 3/5 of our rotation is going to stay lefthanded, does it really matter all that much to swap them?

by Jay on May 11, 2008 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still just thinking of someone better than Peralta in the infield, period, regardless of whether it’s at 2B or SS. I agree that we need to see if Asdrubal can hit at the big-league level first, though.

by APV on May 11, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tough to get equal value for Peralta, and regardless of that, tough to find that other guy. I mean, what guy are you talking about?

by Jay on May 11, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

that’s the thing…I don’t have anyone in mind. There aren’t exactly any Robbie Alomar’s floating around…

by APV on May 11, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

We said the same thing last year, I remember the conversations distinctly. And then Lee followed Westbrook to the DL, and the rest is history. It would be fine with me if Byrd had to visit the DL and then Laffey has more time to make himself too good not to keep on the big league roster.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’ve gotta figure that the way Byrd’s been pitching that he still has some value to other teams, no? If he can keep this up until the trading deadline at least we’ll get something for him from pitching-starved teams.

by supermarioelia on May 11, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not to get totally crazy over three starts, but Laffey certainly looks to have already made himself that good.

by Jay on May 11, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Makes so much sense that a trade for hitting has to happen. Doesn’t it? Unless the offense gets really hot.

by JK in CBus on May 10, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Greg Zaun has been a pretty decent hitter for a few years running, and nobody knows about him.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Jhonny looked pretty good there.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Jhonny looks good in pearls

by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

i am so excited about aaron laffey

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Just read the thread. Tremendously enjoyed the “rally” talk.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way, what did that Garko groundout look like? The log says groundout to 3B, but with Victor and Hafner advancing to 2B and 3B … that sounds like a weird play.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions  

No idea – I’ve been listening to Hammy.

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

IIRC it was a squibber; 3B charged in, fielded, bobbled, fell over, broke his wrist, dropped the ball and kicked it towards first base, and still beat Garko by a step. Well, anyway, it was a squibber, which allowed the runners to advance.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense. Until Grady ended the inning on a groundout, that was the least productive PA of the inning—an accidental two-base sac bunt. The first out was Cisco’s RBI sac-fly.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

how was haf’s last ab?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions  

it seems like our babip is evening out all at once tonight.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Underwood flashing the iPhone.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m hardly even paying attention tonight, just sort of lying back and smiling like a moron. It’s nice.

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Grady!

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Good to know the booth has the mentality of a 12 year old.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

What’re they doing?

by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

They’re having a birthday party for Underpants. I’m waiting to see if he gets a pony ride.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

It’s Underwood’s b-day, and Manning asked him to smell the cake. Pretty ridiculous in and of itself, until Manning tries to push Underwood’s head in the cake. Then, they’re both on their cell phones trying to take pictures of the cake, but I think they were actually texting to get some new ringtones.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m kind of sad I missed this.

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Underwood describes a “great quote” on Wedge’s office wall and manages to do it concisely in 1000 words or less.

by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Asdrubal is a ridiculous defensive SS, by the way

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions  

No kidding, he’s fun to watch. I like him out there at SS with Laffey groundballing it up out there.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

he looks worlds better than jhonny over there. i just mean aesthetically. i’m sure that statistically drub is a better ss, but the difference in the numbers is probably less than the difference to the eyes

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure the difference will show up pretty big in the numbers, actually.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

does that mean asdrubal is just a superstar defender? bc i remember looking at a bunch of different defensive metrics in the offseason that never had JP lower than just below the middle. a few even had him in the top 3rd i think. the problem might be that there are no perfect ways to measure defense, which might be illustrated by the fact that jhonny looks like he sucks, some numbers say he does, and some say he doesn’t

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you may not be looking at some of the most refined metrics. Jhonny scores solid-average on some and terrible on others. AbaCab is something like a 70-75 on the 20-80 scale.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

This just in…Eric Gagne: not that good.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Actually, that’s not “just” in … that came in last August.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

mcgowan is at 78

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

McGowan is at the showers.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man, Wilkerson looks like shit in RF out there.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is to say, go Victor!

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Wilkerson appears to have some sort of aversion to catching the baseball on the bounce.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Remember when we almost pulled the plug on the Colon trade because we wanted Wilkerson but they’d only offer Sizemore? At least, I think I remember that…

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, I’d never realized that, but the NY Times says it’s true:

Shapiro wanted a player from the major league roster along with Phillips and Cliff Lee, a left-handed pitcher. Neither general manager identified the player, but he was Brad Wilkerson, the Expos’ rookie center fielder. ’’We realized they’re trying to win this year and they couldn’t do it,’’ Shapiro said. He agreed to take Grady Sizemore, a minor league outfielder and another top prospect, instead of Wilkerson.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Would have been better for PR at the time. My Lord that guy signed up for a public beating when he made that deal. I honestly was in awe of him that day, much moreso than on any other day of his tenure.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

At the time, I was pretty pissed. But I was also pretty young – and had little knowledge of anybody in the minor leagues.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is entertaining

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

The Blue Jays uniforms are stupid and ugly.

by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Subway better fire their advertising firm…

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

tender steak melty cheese … GAWWD I HAATE THAT

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

so nice. cracked their pen by the fourth. our pen can relax. lgt.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey look! Offense! I love when that happens!

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey everybody, I brought beer.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

me oto

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dude, you always bring beer…

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

just got here myself. found some estrella at the store and pretending i’m watching the tribe bludgeon the bluejays from barcelona.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought the Bluejays were from Toronto…

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah. they left when the expos went to DC

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did I miss anything??

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Cavs up 12-4 with 6 left in the first quarter

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lebron Go Tribe?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We’ve (or they’ve) gotta do something about all these broken bats. It’s time.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions  

hire aluminum bats?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hire ceramic bats, I can’t stand the “ting” of aluminum

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can’t stand the "ting" of aluminum
agreed.

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’ve never seen or used a ceramic bat. Are they used in NCAA?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

that had to have been a joke, right? ceramic is like the most brittle material ever

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually, you can find ceramic-reinforced bats, I think they mix with plastic or something, I’ve held one in my hands, but never used it.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

ive heard of doping ceramic with other stuff – because ceramic is a great insulator and can sustain a ton of tensile stress. that’s interesting, using them in bats.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

er, compressive, not tensile

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

A little something from an answers.com article

The Future

In spite of manufacturers’ assurances that the supply of ash trees is not decreasing, the development of composite and aluminum bats continues. The wood composite bat typically consists of a plastic foam core surrounded by woven layers of resin-impregnated synthetic fibers. One of the newest innovations is a bat made of “lanxide,” a ceramic-enforced material. Proponents of non-wood bats point to their resistance to breakage. These bats also greatly alter hitting power: a player’s batting average increases markedly with an aluminum bat.

Although the composite and aluminum bats are popular with amateur and college base-ball players, they are required to use all-wood bats if they advance to the major leagues. It is doubtful that Major League Baseball will ever allow anything but pure wood for bats. The sport is steeped in tradition, and the use of aluminum or composite materials would alter the record books dramatically.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

good stuff. material properties are sweet. how hilarious would a fiber-wrapped bat be in the pros.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love that line about “In spite of manufacturers’ assurances that the supply of ash trees is not decreasing”...at least in my state we got this thing called the Emerald Ash Borer which is devastating the native Ash Tree population…

by APV on May 11, 2008 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think the fear that someone will be killed by a rocket launched by a major leaguer swinging an aluminum bat exceeds the fear that someone will be impaled by a shattered maple bat, so that’s no solution. Go back to ash bats, or some other wood, or maybe a less lively aluminum, or something. But the way those maple bats fly apart, they’ve gotta go.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

you figure? im not sure how much danger anyone in the field is of sustaining any sort of trauma. the losses the bat takes in breaking – plus air resistance – make them, im guessing here, essentially harmless. i was at a game last year, however, with my brother, and someone (opposing team) let go of his bat mid-swing. it flew into the stands and nailed this mom in her stomach. she was totally hurt, had the wind knocked out of her and everything.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ah yes, the old “I think they’re harmless because my buddy’s mom was hurt by one” argument. QED.

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

wait. you didnt get it – the point is the bat didnt shatter. all that plastic deformation when the bat shatters takes away a lot of kinetic energy. if you just let go of a whole bat, however, without breaking it, then it packs a punch. but that is independent of bat material, obviously.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some coach got hit in the dugout the other day, and it was one of those “if he’d been an inch to the left, he’d have lost an eye” things. The problem is that the potential victims (pitcher and infielders, but primarily coaches, dugout personnel, camerapersons and fans) are not likely to be watching the bat shards, focusing instead on the ball. So while there may be time to duck, not everyone will—like this coach. I’ll see if I can find the link.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jeff Passan on maple bats.
Now, granted, this is the same guy who can’t decide if Ervin Santana or Brandon Webb has been the best pitcher in baseball so far this season…

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

come to think of it, the barrel is massive enough to wreak havoc. probably not on a position player, but obviously someone in the dugout/stands.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hire Mark-Buehrle-Career-Path for Aaron Laffey.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

as long as he doesn’t follow the douche path

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

brick he’s not a white sox

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Who are they talking to on the radio? I missed the intro when I went to get a soda. :(

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Just heard the “Charlie” after I posted. Thanks. :)

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

sounds like nagy

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

so, i love the way wedge has been cycling in carroll and francisco. if he can do the same with marte, i’ll be beside myself.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought for sure marte was starting tonight

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is actually really interesting. With Shoppach, Carroll, and BenFran, Wedge shows he understands that he is allowed to use his bench guys. I used to think some sort of “Gotta go with my guys” stubbornness explained Marte’s banishment, but clearly that’s not the case.

So, now that we know Wedge is willing to start backups, why won’t he play Marte?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because it’d be “unfair” to Casey.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

58 through 5 for laffey

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions  

We get Nagy now at the Underwood party. I don’t think he’s the pony, though.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Nagy, “I used to give up nine runs and win all the time”

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

He didn’t actually say that, did he?

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha. No, he didn’t. And I was trying to make reference to the offense of that era, not Nagy’s pitching.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on rick, work with me here. I’m trying to get Jay to go off on a Nagy rant.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nagy sucks.

How's that?

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, it’s definitely a reference to both of those things—end of 90’s at least.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In 98 and 99, indeed. Who decided to let Nagy throw 252 innings in 1992?

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

geeze, even garko is hitting.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Garko: that’s refreshing.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Ok. The Manning/Nagy eroticism in the booth was unexpected.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Just about to post that:
Manning: You looked hot out there.
Nagy: Oh, come here you…

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh god, it keeps going
“you don’t look a day over 20. you still run, keep in shape, right?”

by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Manning: “So, Chuckie, where are you staying after the game?”

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

man, marte should be hitting here, up 9-0.

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s a crime really

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. hire john law

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish i was a pro athlete so my listed height would be like 5’8”

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE BLANKETS

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously. I think it’s time for Pronk Jumbo Blanket night. ASAP.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cavs up 32-13 after 1

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

And Grady’s trying to make the Tribe’s margin of victory comparable

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

What’s not to love about Grady!!!!!!!!!!!

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

My name is Dr. Erik Brady and I approve of Grady Sizemore.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions  

And he’s safe to handle by women who are pregnant or who may become pregnant.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grady Sizemore may make you experience feelings of dizziness, elation, or nausea. If any of these symptoms last longer than 4 hours, consult your physician.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you find yourself sportin’ your ass up around your shoulder blades, check for possible interactions with Cliff Lee.

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another one!!

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Inefficiently successful.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions  

FUCK my internet died just before that at bat

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

That’s why I have XM.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Season high on runs?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Interleague play starts soon.

I think the Indians should start sending up their starters as pinch-hitters, good chance to get some swings in a real game situation.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

or HIRE MICAH OWINGS

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

And Marte should get to throw an inning or two.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

ala Brooks Kieschnik

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

and Tim Laker

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was at the white sox game that laker pitched in

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome. who is Brooks Kieschnik?

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

jose canseco had a huge game. no joke. starting pitchers dave burba vs. rocky biddle

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

And I want to say Mark Whiten, too, right?

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really? I didn’t remember that.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

...and Mark Witten.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember those crazy times the Indians actually let Jose Jimenez pitch in a game?

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, Grady. That’s just uncalled for.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE .500!

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions  

What’s are WPA look like right now?

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions  

our, god. why do i always do that/?

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another six schlitzes, sir?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

“Why am I always reading these damned crime novels?”

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

110%

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flatlined — in a good way.

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s kind of what happened to my hairline.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

aaron laffey fucking hates opposing batters

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I used to think J-Lew was most disdainful of the young pitchers, but Laffey may be eclipsing him.

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

GFP and Jay, re: the thought of Fausto, Westy and Laff in the same rotation…. That just makes me salivate.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

groundballs are the sexiest non sex related thing ever.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

in my facebook interests for god sakes

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not to get political on you guys, but …

Groundballs are more democratic.

And more entertaining, too.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

If only we knew how Marte felt about groundballs…

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to reply to this comment, but I thought better of it.

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Jhonny Peralta at shortstop and a normal offensive output, results will vary.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Look up higher in the thread Brick, Jay was talking about that. Throw in Lee and Miller. Ludicrous.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

joe inglet is going to be a fine major leauger some day. he should be hitting leadoff or us right now.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

All this time, I just knew you were one of indiansfan’s many sock puppets.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

did he used to pine for him? that was before my time at LGT

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hire Cream Uniforms and Block-C caps!

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Reading that post made me hungry for ice cream.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bought myself a block-C cap today, in fact. Clearly good luck.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I may have to follow suit Mike.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

hammy calling rolen one of the best 3rd basemen ever

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions  

was that not like 2 hours ago that he said that?

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he’s said it like 10 times now

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i missed it just now.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Fearless Leader agrees with this sentiment.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

68 through 6 for laffey

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

OT: hard foul on lebron, flagrant pending?

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

not watching

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and for the record i really like the NBA

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i dont get the tribe game, unfortunately. but i like the cavs.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

national announcers saying not flagrant. this makes me hate them.

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Celtics can do no wrong as far as these clowns on ESPN are concerned. I’ve been screaming at the TV the last couple games in frustration at these morons.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

see, this is why if I watch ESPN I mute those fuckers, no matter who is on

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, unfortunately the lag of listening to Joe Tait over the internet is too hard for me to deal with when I can actually see the game.

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

reason for cheer.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Celtics:Lebron :: Manning:Nagy

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

From the Only In a 12-0 Game Dept.

I wonder how this happened?

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

safari kicks ass. nice use of apple shift three.

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the tip

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

four.

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like my life…but damn, it must be good to be Grady Sizemore.

by xrickx on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

but do you really want to be noticed at the bookstore?

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell yes

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

grady im dialin up a colt 45 right now. i think im peacin out

my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.

by joeee on May 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So uh….pretty good game thus far? I’ve been watching away from the comp here. Can we get Wilkerson to play right field for every team we play?

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

if he keeps getting DFAd and signed, maybe.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and what the fuck, put Marte in there. I demand this as his father.

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE GAMES WHERE MARTE GETS BURN

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Mench fouls one off his leg; Vic makes a visit to the mound so Mench can shake it off. Ergo, Vic is a mensch.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions  

can someone please explain the above graph? i’ve never seen it before

by eakazura on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Basically, it tracks the statistical probability of each team winning the game, updated for each plate appearance. It’s a product of fangraphs.com, at whose site you can find out a lot more.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Laffey person…I’m not sure what to make of him.

by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, I love me some Laffey Taffy and his democratic ground balls.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions  

ok get mastny and breslow up

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Breslow sighting!

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, I realize that Franciso is a little old to be much of a prospect & his ceiling’s probably not too high, but I like that dude.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Asdrubal bails him out. Love it.

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

DROOB

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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Cabrera is slick out there, man.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

HIRE PERSONAL CATCHER!

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m calling leadoff hit for Hafner here.

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I will second that, because why not?

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

HIRE .500 BASEBALL

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

gamecast, what?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garko nailed on the hand. Remains in the game.

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garko took the pitch right at the base of the hand/wrist. They showed a slo-mo to see where it hit him & the expression on his face when he got hit looked less than happy.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is not how I wanted Andy to get more playing time. Fuck.

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Is this a time machine of nothing’s broken? Please?

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Garko hurt?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I think it’s too late to go get falafel. :(

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In a perfect world, it would never be too late to get felafel.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree. :( I guess I’ll have to save it for tomorrow. The falafel dude is really nice, too.

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

i love falafel but it’s got nothing on chicken schwerma

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

MARTE

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Not much to say there. Other than Andy, please get closer to the plate for fuck’s sake.

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions  

He shoulda listened during tee ball, eh pops?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a nephew named andy and his mother is telling him that verbatim at the dinner table on a regular basis

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

SHIT

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

BRESLOW HIRED.

The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.

by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Apparently, a 12-run lead is sufficient enough to let Craig Breslow pitch for the Cleveland Indians.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Tom mastny just looked over at Breslow and said “fuck, really? Even you’re before me?”

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Tom’s closing tonight.

by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Upper deck fan makes a good catch of a foul ball, leaning over the railing. But then, evidently forgetting that it was a meaningless play in a 12-0 blowout in May, he goes into a celebratory routine. Tsk tsk.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

What a prima donna. Apparently he’s been watching LeBron. /rimshot

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didnt mean that sports god sniffle dont punish us

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That’s just the way he is. That’s just his personality.

by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everybody should know that.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just Fanny being Fanny?

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

This Asdrubal Cabrera guy can play shortstop a little bit.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

You know, Asdrubal is kinda good at doing shortstopping

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

jhonny is my boy, but wow

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Hire Venezuela.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

it’s probably looking or work

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

fire chavez!

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Careful, he might fire back.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hahha remember that LGT’er that questioned Asdrubal’s range and positioning? What a maroon .. what a nicompoop …

oh yea .. it was me.

by Toxicadam on May 10, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, in fairness, I’ve never seen a second baseman play so far to the right as Asdrubal is tonight.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

By my count, Toronto now has three Former Indians Farmhands in the game.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

and one on the DL

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tallett and Inglett were actual Indians

by palcal on May 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

So they saw Paree, we still pretty much kept ‘em down on the farm.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Scutaro was damned close. Played 250+ games for Buffalo. Man, we must have hated that guy.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, well, somebody has to play shortstop in Buffalo, even if you do have Omar Vizquel.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

i find it odd that carroll’s walk-up music is “Ants Marching”

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

He’s got high hopes.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gootz with the extraordinarily low-WPA double.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Damn, I think Mike Rouse might even get into this game.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

nice work.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blue Jays uniforms are stupid and ugly.

by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Now we’re just getting petty

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Blue Jays have had some rotten luck this year. I was hoping they could contend in the East, but with Wells going down for 2 months .. I just can’t see it.

by Toxicadam on May 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Why the hell didnt Mastny get into this game?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

We’re saving him for tomorrow’s twelve-run lead.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t needed.

by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

And hey, the game’s not over yet!

by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what “need” drives a Mastny appearance? Is there Quiznos involved?

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it’s best we save him for the nationally televised games. That way, announcers can get there “Guess who’s from Indonesia?” fun in.

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

MMMMM, chicken carbonara, mmmmmm

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

i heard quiznos was in financial trouble

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

like a year ago I realized that every sandwich at quiznos that doesnt have prime rib tastes the same. And makes you fat.

"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"

by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

not if you eat the small once every 3 months or so

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Twins fall 5-2, for what it’s worth

by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m not sure I like this bizarro MLB: the AL Central has become the NL Central and vice versa. Up is down, down is up. Cats and dogs, etc…

by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

eastside-westside

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

that shit was really trippy

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the division is down a little this year, but surely our magic number is higher than that.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

ballgame!

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Good game, good game, good game

-Erik

by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

I don’t know why I let this stuff bother me:

Big League Stew claims that Cliff Lee “has been the most impressive pitcher in the AL, throughout the first month of the season.” (emphasis mine.) The clear implication is that he’s still not as impressive as Brandon Webb, whose only statistical advantage is that he has 8 wins. So I go to the comments to read those by people setting him straight, and get this one:

i dont care what the numbers say, cliff lee is terrible. unless he signed a contract with satan prior to the 2008 season, expect him to start getting shelled real soon.

Yeah, whatever, dude.

by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Satan has some bad news for you.

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by AngG on May 10, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHOOO

I need a second computer

by afh4 on May 10, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Boo just got home so missed the entire game. Good looking result.

One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play

by new zealand tribe fan on May 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

baseball is a results oriented game.

by Brick. on May 10, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

This might be more fitting for a diary, but is it time to finally start considering moving Peralta to 2b? I started banging this drum a couple of weeks ago when Peralta made a few weak throws to first, but he’s been fine since. But Droobs….wow just wow. Combinatin of range and arm…just incredible.

And I really think Jhonny would thrive at second since he does manage to get to a ton of balls despite what people say about his range. His issue from what I can see is balance once he does get to a difficult ball…which being a bit closer to first might help with.

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

are we the only SBN site to go way down in numbers of posts per game thread since the transition?

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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Most SBN sites are way, way up—as we are.

We had two Saturday night games last year in May, and those game threads had 77 and 279 comments.

This year, it’s been 512 and 398.

by Jay on May 11, 2008 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

ahh. i just feel like we’re down in posts

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by Gradyforpresident on May 11, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I imagine you’re just comparing it with the most hyped-up days of last season. We are way, way up.

by Jay on May 11, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

If you ever feel like we’re not getting enough posts, head over to Bluebird Banter during a game thread. It’s usually just one guy posting to himself.

by supermarioelia on May 11, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Or Bless You Boys – the Tigers blog also has pretty sparse game thread posting activity.

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 12, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Some stats looking towards Mr. Burnett tomorrow…assuminng that tomorrow’s lineup includes Grady, Dellucci, Pronk, Vic, Garko, Jhonny and Blake. Here are these guys’ collective career numbers against Burnett:

22/53, 6BB, 8 2B, 4HR, 17 RBI
avg .415
obp .475
slg .792
OPS 1.27!!!!!! In 53 atbats!!

Yeah I might’ve just jinxed them, but I doubt it. Hell even Carroll is 3 for 9 career with a double.

by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry if it’s been mentioned, but reportedly Mastny seen shaking hands with players after the game; back to Buffalo?

by cheech99 on May 10, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

J-Mike 3-4 with two runs scored in his starting debut with the Bucs.

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