Game Thread: May 10, 2008
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On an unrelated note, Jason Michaels is batting in the 3-hole for the Pirates tonight. Even with all of our offensive struggles, we were never forced to do that.
by nomar363 on May 10, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When did Delichaels officially separate? When we DFA’d Michaels or before? Cause our half of the platoon has hit in the three hole for about over a week now
by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vernon Wells will not be in the lineup tonight, or tomorrow, or any other time in May or (probably) June. He broke his wrist last night and is out 6-8 weeks. Jeremy Accardo also joins the ever-expanding Toronto DL, with Super Joe Inglett and Armando Benitez getting the call-ups.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was Joe able to join Syracuse before he was recalled?
by palcal on May 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HIRE ANDY GOD DAMN MARTE
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 6:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Casey’s been pretty decent hitting the last couple days. His 5 RBI over the last three games have been pretty nice.
by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RBI?
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s get Laffey a much-deserved win here.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on May 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Toronto:
Rios CF
Wilkerson RF
Rolen 3B
Mench LF
Stewart DH
Overbay 1B
Scutaro SS
Zaun C
Velandia 2B
Cleveland
Sizemore CF
Carroll 2B
Dellucci LF
Martinez C
Gutierrez RF
Hafner DH
Garko 1B
Cabrera SS
Blake 3B
I saw Scutaro again called “former Indians farmhand Marco Scutaro” in the paper today. That clumsy nickname has stuck to him as well as “former Panamanian strongman Manel Noriega.”
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
former Indians farmhand Marco Scutaro
people really do like calling him that, don’t they…
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on May 10, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAMMY SAYS IT
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
laffey taffy
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hooray for new acquisitions hitting 2 and 4.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
niiiiice
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, 
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm, hire laffey
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HIRE LEADOFF HOMERS
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeaaa grady!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RUNS!!!
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn it Zaun – stop blocking these
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a great pitch (diving grab by catcher to prevent wild pitch).
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Three (3) total runs. One out. Me likey.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HIRE #S NOT USUALLY SEEN ON OUR LINE SCORE
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOLTRUE
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More multi run innings start with a walk or a HR?
by SanD on May 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hafner will hit a rally-killing HR here.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sizemore already did that. This rally is entirely imaginary.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering why the runs didn’t really “feel” right.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
C’mon, Asdrubal. Keep the inning alive!
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
O YEA
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HIRE MENCH’S ARM
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we bat around? It all comes down to Casey Blake.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you!
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice work team. Now Laffy go to work.
by mjschaefer on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on – bookend HRs…
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
manning, i like blake’s rbi as much as anyone, but i will NOT call him “mr clutch”
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hammy simply complemented he’s leading the team hitting 9th and left it at that.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, now that that’s finished:
HIRE 37 PITCH 5-RUN FIRST INNINGS
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6?
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did the pitching coach even come out of the dugout once that inning to try and kill the momentum (if you believe in that kind of thing)?
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
unless i missed it, no.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope Laffey doesn’t give up a few runs to get back that old feeling
by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The worst out in that inning was Garko’s groundout the 2nd which pushed Vic and Haf to 3rd and 2nd, respectively. That makes it a fiiiiine inning.
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES LAFFEY. He just doesn’t like giving up baserunners early in games.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i love aaron laffey
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
17 pitches so far!! HEY OH!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How awesome has Martinez been this year, by the way? This awesome:
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeter hit his first HR today. Vic will too.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please don’t turn into a boring shut-out from now-on game.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’ll take a 6-0 win.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, me too, but that’d be boring from now on.;
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh victor, i love you to death, but you are sooooo slooooow
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I see we’ve found an offense.
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
someone pointed this out before, and its manifestly obvious, but it is absolutely incredible that aaron laffey is our number 6 starter. our starting rotation is so good that laffey sowers and miller are in the minors if everyone is healthy.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 7:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a sneaky feeling that Byrd goes to the pen when Jake comes back.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that may be. i imagine its hard to send laffey down if he stays this hot.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what good would he be in the pen with a rotation like that? we already have 2 guys out there who never get to pitch.
if jake comes back and is healthy, byrd’s vest value to us might be as a trade piece. but i doubt that happens. most likely they give laffey a pat on the back, send him down and say “great job kid, you’ll be up here to stay next year”
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd will be traded to the Mets or Phillies in June.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you imagine having byrd and moyer in that rotation. in that park?
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The word you’re looking for is “ludicrous.”
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And by the way, a year ago, we were having the identical discussion about Carmona. “How can this guy be our sixth starter? That doesn’t even make sense.”
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love aaron laffey
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jay – care to venture an educated guess about what happens to laffey when westbrook returns?
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by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think in fact he’ll be going back to the minors. Keep in mind that our entire rotation has injury questions. I think they would have to really like a trade in order to give up a piece of that depth.
If they’re going to make a trade, making a more substantial one, for a non-rental player, generally will make more sense. Sowers is the likely target in that deal, it seems to me. As for shipping Byrd off in a lesser deal, I think depends not only on the return but on the continued health of Miller and progress of Huff.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is probably correct. because we may in fact not need a bat (how crazy did that seem on wednesday?)
and are you suggesting Laffey will be our #2 next yr? ;)
I wonder if Fausto would have turned out differently if he had actually been forced to pitch a game in the minors after his send-down last year.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am on record, I think, as pencilling Laffey into the 2009-2013 rotation. As for #2, there are a few other candidates.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes I agree that Laffey should/will be in there. As for #2, I was just running wiht the Carmona comparison u made.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Laffey turns into a lefty Carmona, I am just going to freak out. Guys with low strikeout numbers are not supposed to succeed. It’s against nature!
Laffey is 16 months younger than Carmona, by the way, so he’s on a very similar path so far. He’s the youngest guy on the roster except for his personal catcher, AbaCab.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well played
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude if we had fausto, westbrook and laffey giving us groundball goodness i would be damn near engorged
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right. It’s not even fair.
And the other two apparently will be Lee and Miller.
Which brings us back to: ludicrous.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we really had all three of those guys in our starting rotation on a regular basis I would really want to the FO to make an effort to move ‘drub to short and get a slick-fielding 2B into our lineup, even if they’ve got a subpar bat. But then again, maybe I’m overestimating the synergistic value of great infield defense and a ridiculously ground-ball focused pitching staff.
by APV on May 11, 2008 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was talking in the offseason about moving Peralta to 2B long-term for exactly this reason, but there is a need for AbaCab to prove he can stay in the majors first.
On the other hand, if 3/5 of our rotation is going to stay lefthanded, does it really matter all that much to swap them?
by Jay on May 11, 2008 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still just thinking of someone better than Peralta in the infield, period, regardless of whether it’s at 2B or SS. I agree that we need to see if Asdrubal can hit at the big-league level first, though.
by APV on May 11, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough to get equal value for Peralta, and regardless of that, tough to find that other guy. I mean, what guy are you talking about?
by Jay on May 11, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that’s the thing…I don’t have anyone in mind. There aren’t exactly any Robbie Alomar’s floating around…
by APV on May 11, 2008 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We said the same thing last year, I remember the conversations distinctly. And then Lee followed Westbrook to the DL, and the rest is history. It would be fine with me if Byrd had to visit the DL and then Laffey has more time to make himself too good not to keep on the big league roster.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve gotta figure that the way Byrd’s been pitching that he still has some value to other teams, no? If he can keep this up until the trading deadline at least we’ll get something for him from pitching-starved teams.
by supermarioelia on May 11, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to get totally crazy over three starts, but Laffey certainly looks to have already made himself that good.
by Jay on May 11, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes so much sense that a trade for hitting has to happen. Doesn’t it? Unless the offense gets really hot.
by JK in CBus on May 10, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Zaun has been a pretty decent hitter for a few years running, and nobody knows about him.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i am so excited about aaron laffey
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just read the thread. Tremendously enjoyed the “rally” talk.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way, what did that Garko groundout look like? The log says groundout to 3B, but with Victor and Hafner advancing to 2B and 3B … that sounds like a weird play.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No idea – I’ve been listening to Hammy.
by Voltaire on May 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC it was a squibber; 3B charged in, fielded, bobbled, fell over, broke his wrist, dropped the ball and kicked it towards first base, and still beat Garko by a step. Well, anyway, it was a squibber, which allowed the runners to advance.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes sense. Until Grady ended the inning on a groundout, that was the least productive PA of the inning—an accidental two-base sac bunt. The first out was Cisco’s RBI sac-fly.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how was haf’s last ab?
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by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it seems like our babip is evening out all at once tonight.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Underwood flashing the iPhone.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m hardly even paying attention tonight, just sort of lying back and smiling like a moron. It’s nice.
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Grady!
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good to know the booth has the mentality of a 12 year old.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They’re having a birthday party for Underpants. I’m waiting to see if he gets a pony ride.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s Underwood’s b-day, and Manning asked him to smell the cake. Pretty ridiculous in and of itself, until Manning tries to push Underwood’s head in the cake. Then, they’re both on their cell phones trying to take pictures of the cake, but I think they were actually texting to get some new ringtones.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m kind of sad I missed this.
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Underwood describes a “great quote” on Wedge’s office wall and manages to do it concisely in 1000 words or less.
by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Asdrubal is a ridiculous defensive SS, by the way
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by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No kidding, he’s fun to watch. I like him out there at SS with Laffey groundballing it up out there.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he looks worlds better than jhonny over there. i just mean aesthetically. i’m sure that statistically drub is a better ss, but the difference in the numbers is probably less than the difference to the eyes
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure the difference will show up pretty big in the numbers, actually.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does that mean asdrubal is just a superstar defender? bc i remember looking at a bunch of different defensive metrics in the offseason that never had JP lower than just below the middle. a few even had him in the top 3rd i think. the problem might be that there are no perfect ways to measure defense, which might be illustrated by the fact that jhonny looks like he sucks, some numbers say he does, and some say he doesn’t
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you may not be looking at some of the most refined metrics. Jhonny scores solid-average on some and terrible on others. AbaCab is something like a 70-75 on the 20-80 scale.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, that’s not “just” in … that came in last August.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mcgowan is at 78
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by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man, Wilkerson looks like shit in RF out there.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Which is to say, go Victor!
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in leave him in
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wilkerson appears to have some sort of aversion to catching the baseball on the bounce.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember when we almost pulled the plug on the Colon trade because we wanted Wilkerson but they’d only offer Sizemore? At least, I think I remember that…
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, I’d never realized that, but the NY Times says it’s true:
Shapiro wanted a player from the major league roster along with Phillips and Cliff Lee, a left-handed pitcher. Neither general manager identified the player, but he was Brad Wilkerson, the Expos’ rookie center fielder. ’’We realized they’re trying to win this year and they couldn’t do it,’’ Shapiro said. He agreed to take Grady Sizemore, a minor league outfielder and another top prospect, instead of Wilkerson.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would have been better for PR at the time. My Lord that guy signed up for a public beating when he made that deal. I honestly was in awe of him that day, much moreso than on any other day of his tenure.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the time, I was pretty pissed. But I was also pretty young – and had little knowledge of anybody in the minor leagues.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is entertaining
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Blue Jays uniforms are stupid and ugly.
by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Subway better fire their advertising firm…
by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tender steak melty cheese … GAWWD I HAATE THAT
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so nice. cracked their pen by the fourth. our pen can relax. lgt.
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by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey look! Offense! I love when that happens!
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey everybody, I brought beer.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
me oto
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you always bring beer…
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just got here myself. found some estrella at the store and pretending i’m watching the tribe bludgeon the bluejays from barcelona.
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Bluejays were from Toronto…
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah. they left when the expos went to DC
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cavs up 12-4 with 6 left in the first quarter
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lebron Go Tribe?
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve (or they’ve) gotta do something about all these broken bats. It’s time.
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Hire ceramic bats, I can’t stand the “ting” of aluminum
-Erik
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I can’t stand the "ting" of aluminumagreed.
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I’ve never seen or used a ceramic bat. Are they used in NCAA?
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that had to have been a joke, right? ceramic is like the most brittle material ever
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, you can find ceramic-reinforced bats, I think they mix with plastic or something, I’ve held one in my hands, but never used it.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ive heard of doping ceramic with other stuff – because ceramic is a great insulator and can sustain a ton of tensile stress. that’s interesting, using them in bats.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
er, compressive, not tensile
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A little something from an answers.com article
The FutureIn spite of manufacturers’ assurances that the supply of ash trees is not decreasing, the development of composite and aluminum bats continues. The wood composite bat typically consists of a plastic foam core surrounded by woven layers of resin-impregnated synthetic fibers. One of the newest innovations is a bat made of “lanxide,” a ceramic-enforced material. Proponents of non-wood bats point to their resistance to breakage. These bats also greatly alter hitting power: a player’s batting average increases markedly with an aluminum bat.
Although the composite and aluminum bats are popular with amateur and college base-ball players, they are required to use all-wood bats if they advance to the major leagues. It is doubtful that Major League Baseball will ever allow anything but pure wood for bats. The sport is steeped in tradition, and the use of aluminum or composite materials would alter the record books dramatically.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good stuff. material properties are sweet. how hilarious would a fiber-wrapped bat be in the pros.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that line about “In spite of manufacturers’ assurances that the supply of ash trees is not decreasing”...at least in my state we got this thing called the Emerald Ash Borer which is devastating the native Ash Tree population…
by APV on May 11, 2008 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the fear that someone will be killed by a rocket launched by a major leaguer swinging an aluminum bat exceeds the fear that someone will be impaled by a shattered maple bat, so that’s no solution. Go back to ash bats, or some other wood, or maybe a less lively aluminum, or something. But the way those maple bats fly apart, they’ve gotta go.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you figure? im not sure how much danger anyone in the field is of sustaining any sort of trauma. the losses the bat takes in breaking – plus air resistance – make them, im guessing here, essentially harmless. i was at a game last year, however, with my brother, and someone (opposing team) let go of his bat mid-swing. it flew into the stands and nailed this mom in her stomach. she was totally hurt, had the wind knocked out of her and everything.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah yes, the old “I think they’re harmless because my buddy’s mom was hurt by one” argument. QED.
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait. you didnt get it – the point is the bat didnt shatter. all that plastic deformation when the bat shatters takes away a lot of kinetic energy. if you just let go of a whole bat, however, without breaking it, then it packs a punch. but that is independent of bat material, obviously.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some coach got hit in the dugout the other day, and it was one of those “if he’d been an inch to the left, he’d have lost an eye” things. The problem is that the potential victims (pitcher and infielders, but primarily coaches, dugout personnel, camerapersons and fans) are not likely to be watching the bat shards, focusing instead on the ball. So while there may be time to duck, not everyone will—like this coach. I’ll see if I can find the link.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Passan on maple bats.
Now, granted, this is the same guy who can’t decide if Ervin Santana or Brandon Webb has been the best pitcher in baseball so far this season…
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come to think of it, the barrel is massive enough to wreak havoc. probably not on a position player, but obviously someone in the dugout/stands.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hire Mark-Buehrle-Career-Path for Aaron Laffey.
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as long as he doesn’t follow the douche path
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brick he’s not a white sox
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who are they talking to on the radio? I missed the intro when I went to get a soda. :(
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Just heard the “Charlie” after I posted. Thanks. :)
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sounds like nagy
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, i love the way wedge has been cycling in carroll and francisco. if he can do the same with marte, i’ll be beside myself.
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought for sure marte was starting tonight
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is actually really interesting. With Shoppach, Carroll, and BenFran, Wedge shows he understands that he is allowed to use his bench guys. I used to think some sort of “Gotta go with my guys” stubbornness explained Marte’s banishment, but clearly that’s not the case.
So, now that we know Wedge is willing to start backups, why won’t he play Marte?
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
58 through 5 for laffey
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We get Nagy now at the Underwood party. I don’t think he’s the pony, though.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nagy, “I used to give up nine runs and win all the time”
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha. No, he didn’t. And I was trying to make reference to the offense of that era, not Nagy’s pitching.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on rick, work with me here. I’m trying to get Jay to go off on a Nagy rant.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, it’s definitely a reference to both of those things—end of 90’s at least.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 98 and 99, indeed. Who decided to let Nagy throw 252 innings in 1992?
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok. The Manning/Nagy eroticism in the booth was unexpected.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just about to post that:
Manning: You looked hot out there.
Nagy: Oh, come here you…
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh god, it keeps going
“you don’t look a day over 20. you still run, keep in shape, right?”
by mpstable on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Manning: “So, Chuckie, where are you staying after the game?”
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
man, marte should be hitting here, up 9-0.
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yep. hire john law
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i wish i was a pro athlete so my listed height would be like 5’8”
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HIRE BLANKETS
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Seriously. I think it’s time for Pronk Jumbo Blanket night. ASAP.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Grady’s trying to make the Tribe’s margin of victory comparable
by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What’s not to love about Grady!!!!!!!!!!!
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My name is Dr. Erik Brady and I approve of Grady Sizemore.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And he’s safe to handle by women who are pregnant or who may become pregnant.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grady Sizemore may make you experience feelings of dizziness, elation, or nausea. If any of these symptoms last longer than 4 hours, consult your physician.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you find yourself sportin’ your ass up around your shoulder blades, check for possible interactions with Cliff Lee.
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another one!!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
by jakesinger777 on May 10, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUCK my internet died just before that at bat
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interleague play starts soon.
I think the Indians should start sending up their starters as pinch-hitters, good chance to get some swings in a real game situation.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or HIRE MICAH OWINGS
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Marte should get to throw an inning or two.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ala Brooks Kieschnik
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Tim Laker
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was at the white sox game that laker pitched in
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
awesome. who is Brooks Kieschnik?
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jose canseco had a huge game. no joke. starting pitchers dave burba vs. rocky biddle
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I want to say Mark Whiten, too, right?
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? I didn’t remember that.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and Mark Witten.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember those crazy times the Indians actually let Jose Jimenez pitch in a game?
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, Grady. That’s just uncalled for.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HIRE .500!
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“Why am I always reading these damned crime novels?”
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
110%
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s kind of what happened to my hairline.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaron laffey fucking hates opposing batters
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I used to think J-Lew was most disdainful of the young pitchers, but Laffey may be eclipsing him.
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GFP and Jay, re: the thought of Fausto, Westy and Laff in the same rotation…. That just makes me salivate.
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
groundballs are the sexiest non sex related thing ever.
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in my facebook interests for god sakes
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to get political on you guys, but …
Groundballs are more democratic.
And more entertaining, too.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only we knew how Marte felt about groundballs…
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to reply to this comment, but I thought better of it.
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Jhonny Peralta at shortstop and a normal offensive output, results will vary.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look up higher in the thread Brick, Jay was talking about that. Throw in Lee and Miller. Ludicrous.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
joe inglet is going to be a fine major leauger some day. he should be hitting leadoff or us right now.
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All this time, I just knew you were one of indiansfan’s many sock puppets.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he used to pine for him? that was before my time at LGT
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hire Cream Uniforms and Block-C caps!
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reading that post made me hungry for ice cream.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bought myself a block-C cap today, in fact. Clearly good luck.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, I may have to follow suit Mike.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hammy calling rolen one of the best 3rd basemen ever
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was that not like 2 hours ago that he said that?
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he’s said it like 10 times now
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i missed it just now.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Fearless Leader agrees with this sentiment.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
68 through 6 for laffey
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: hard foul on lebron, flagrant pending?
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not watching
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and for the record i really like the NBA
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont get the tribe game, unfortunately. but i like the cavs.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
national announcers saying not flagrant. this makes me hate them.
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Celtics can do no wrong as far as these clowns on ESPN are concerned. I’ve been screaming at the TV the last couple games in frustration at these morons.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see, this is why if I watch ESPN I mute those fuckers, no matter who is on
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, unfortunately the lag of listening to Joe Tait over the internet is too hard for me to deal with when I can actually see the game.
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
From the Only In a 12-0 Game Dept.
I wonder how this happened?
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
safari kicks ass. nice use of apple shift three.
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the tip
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
four.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like my life…but damn, it must be good to be Grady Sizemore.
by xrickx on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but do you really want to be noticed at the bookstore?
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yes
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
grady im dialin up a colt 45 right now. i think im peacin out
my helmet has, like, no pine tar on it.
by joeee on May 10, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So uh….pretty good game thus far? I’ve been watching away from the comp here. Can we get Wilkerson to play right field for every team we play?
by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if he keeps getting DFAd and signed, maybe.
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and what the fuck, put Marte in there. I demand this as his father.
by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mench fouls one off his leg; Vic makes a visit to the mound so Mench can shake it off. Ergo, Vic is a mensch.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can someone please explain the above graph? i’ve never seen it before
by eakazura on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Basically, it tracks the statistical probability of each team winning the game, updated for each plate appearance. It’s a product of fangraphs.com, at whose site you can find out a lot more.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Laffey person…I’m not sure what to make of him.
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Man, I love me some Laffey Taffy and his democratic ground balls.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok get mastny and breslow up
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Breslow sighting!
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, I realize that Franciso is a little old to be much of a prospect & his ceiling’s probably not too high, but I like that dude.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Asdrubal bails him out. Love it.
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DROOB
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by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cabrera is slick out there, man.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I’m calling leadoff hit for Hafner here.
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I will second that, because why not?
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HIRE .500 BASEBALL
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gamecast, what?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko nailed on the hand. Remains in the game.
by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko took the pitch right at the base of the hand/wrist. They showed a slo-mo to see where it hit him & the expression on his face when he got hit looked less than happy.
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by zempf on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is not how I wanted Andy to get more playing time. Fuck.
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Is this a time machine of nothing’s broken? Please?
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garko hurt?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s too late to go get falafel. :(
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by AngG on May 10, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In a perfect world, it would never be too late to get felafel.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. :( I guess I’ll have to save it for tomorrow. The falafel dude is really nice, too.
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i love falafel but it’s got nothing on chicken schwerma
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MARTE
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not much to say there. Other than Andy, please get closer to the plate for fuck’s sake.
by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He shoulda listened during tee ball, eh pops?
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have a nephew named andy and his mother is telling him that verbatim at the dinner table on a regular basis
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SHIT
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BRESLOW HIRED.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on May 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, a 12-run lead is sufficient enough to let Craig Breslow pitch for the Cleveland Indians.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tom mastny just looked over at Breslow and said “fuck, really? Even you’re before me?”
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Upper deck fan makes a good catch of a foul ball, leaning over the railing. But then, evidently forgetting that it was a meaningless play in a 12-0 blowout in May, he goes into a celebratory routine. Tsk tsk.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a prima donna. Apparently he’s been watching LeBron. /rimshot
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt mean that sports god sniffle dont punish us
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s just the way he is. That’s just his personality.
by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everybody should know that.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This Asdrubal Cabrera guy can play shortstop a little bit.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, Asdrubal is kinda good at doing shortstopping
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hire Venezuela.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fire chavez!
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hahha remember that LGT’er that questioned Asdrubal’s range and positioning? What a maroon .. what a nicompoop …
oh yea .. it was me.
by Toxicadam on May 10, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, in fairness, I’ve never seen a second baseman play so far to the right as Asdrubal is tonight.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By my count, Toronto now has three Former Indians Farmhands in the game.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tallett and Inglett were actual Indians
by palcal on May 10, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they saw Paree, we still pretty much kept ‘em down on the farm.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scutaro was damned close. Played 250+ games for Buffalo. Man, we must have hated that guy.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, well, somebody has to play shortstop in Buffalo, even if you do have Omar Vizquel.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i find it odd that carroll’s walk-up music is “Ants Marching”
by Brick. on May 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He’s got high hopes.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 10, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gootz with the extraordinarily low-WPA double.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I think Mike Rouse might even get into this game.
by Jay on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice work.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Blue Jays uniforms are stupid and ugly.
by SuddenSam on May 10, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Blue Jays have had some rotten luck this year. I was hoping they could contend in the East, but with Wells going down for 2 months .. I just can’t see it.
by Toxicadam on May 10, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell didnt Mastny get into this game?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We’re saving him for tomorrow’s twelve-run lead.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what “need” drives a Mastny appearance? Is there Quiznos involved?
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s best we save him for the nationally televised games. That way, announcers can get there “Guess who’s from Indonesia?” fun in.
by baergagaga on May 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MMMMM, chicken carbonara, mmmmmm
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heard quiznos was in financial trouble
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like a year ago I realized that every sandwich at quiznos that doesnt have prime rib tastes the same. And makes you fat.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on May 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not if you eat the small once every 3 months or so
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure I like this bizarro MLB: the AL Central has become the NL Central and vice versa. Up is down, down is up. Cats and dogs, etc…
by aufrank on May 10, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eastside-westside
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that shit was really trippy
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know the division is down a little this year, but surely our magic number is higher than that.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ballgame!
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good game, good game, good game
-Erik
by drerikbrady on May 10, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know why I let this stuff bother me:
Big League Stew claims that Cliff Lee “has been the most impressive pitcher in the AL, throughout the first month of the season.” (emphasis mine.) The clear implication is that he’s still not as impressive as Brandon Webb, whose only statistical advantage is that he has 8 wins. So I go to the comments to read those by people setting him straight, and get this one:
i dont care what the numbers say, cliff lee is terrible. unless he signed a contract with satan prior to the 2008 season, expect him to start getting shelled real soon.
Yeah, whatever, dude.
by Fiddlesticks on May 10, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Satan has some bad news for you.
Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.
by AngG on May 10, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo just got home so missed the entire game. Good looking result.
One day I'll get over to watch the Tribe play
by new zealand tribe fan on May 10, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This might be more fitting for a diary, but is it time to finally start considering moving Peralta to 2b? I started banging this drum a couple of weeks ago when Peralta made a few weak throws to first, but he’s been fine since. But Droobs….wow just wow. Combinatin of range and arm…just incredible.
And I really think Jhonny would thrive at second since he does manage to get to a ton of balls despite what people say about his range. His issue from what I can see is balance once he does get to a difficult ball…which being a bit closer to first might help with.
by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
are we the only SBN site to go way down in numbers of posts per game thread since the transition?
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by Gradyforpresident on May 10, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Most SBN sites are way, way up—as we are.
We had two Saturday night games last year in May, and those game threads had 77 and 279 comments.
This year, it’s been 512 and 398.
by Jay on May 11, 2008 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh. i just feel like we’re down in posts
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by Gradyforpresident on May 11, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine you’re just comparing it with the most hyped-up days of last season. We are way, way up.
by Jay on May 11, 2008 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you ever feel like we’re not getting enough posts, head over to Bluebird Banter during a game thread. It’s usually just one guy posting to himself.
by supermarioelia on May 11, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Bless You Boys – the Tigers blog also has pretty sparse game thread posting activity.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on May 12, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some stats looking towards Mr. Burnett tomorrow…assuminng that tomorrow’s lineup includes Grady, Dellucci, Pronk, Vic, Garko, Jhonny and Blake. Here are these guys’ collective career numbers against Burnett:
22/53, 6BB, 8 2B, 4HR, 17 RBI
avg .415
obp .475
slg .792
OPS 1.27!!!!!! In 53 atbats!!
Yeah I might’ve just jinxed them, but I doubt it. Hell even Carroll is 3 for 9 career with a double.
by supermarioelia on May 10, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry if it’s been mentioned, but reportedly Mastny seen shaking hands with players after the game; back to Buffalo?
by cheech99 on May 10, 2008 11:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
J-Mike 3-4 with two runs scored in his starting debut with the Bucs.
by supermarioelia on May 11, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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