Game Thread: May 12, 2008 - 8th Inning
by Ryan
on May 12, 2008 6:08 PM EDT
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Toronto @ Cleveland
Toronto at Cleveland, 1:05 PM (STO)
POSTPONED
Game to be made up tomorrow as the first game of a double-header, 4:05 p.m.
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what’s the weather like in Cleveland today? Is it raining?
by APV on
May 11, 2008 12:12 PM EDT
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I’m not in Cleveland but from a glance at the Doppler, I’d guess this one isn’t getting played.
by NickFantana on
May 11, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
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Gonna be tough, looks like it’s supposed to rain most of tomorrow too. These aren’t games I want to be rescheduled…these Jays look dead in the water right now.
by supermarioelia on
May 11, 2008 12:25 PM EDT
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Especially with Tyner, who’s a monster at the Prog:
Tyner spent the entire 2007 season in the big leagues with the Twins and hit his first Major League homer last July at Progressive Field.
by SuddenSam on
May 11, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
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off of ‘me’.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 12:36 PM EDT
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I’m sure someone could look this up, but I don’t need to. Has anyone else ever noticed that when Jake gives up homers, it’s usually to guys who don’t hit them?
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
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Not so much this year, but in past years
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 12:51 PM EDT
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nasty. As in windy and dark.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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I’m not in Cleveland but a quick look at the Doppler has me believing this game isn’t going to be played.
by NickFantana on
May 11, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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Surely you’ve had time for more than a quick look by now.
by Voltaire on
May 11, 2008 12:28 PM EDT
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I was attacked by a glitch. On my end, I posted it the first time and then it disappeared. So I re-posted and now I look like a wanna-be meteorologist. Good times.
by NickFantana on
May 11, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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Marte not hired against a really hard thrower, either.
Toronto Blue Jays
Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO AVG
B Wilkerson RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .222
A Hill 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .262
A Rios CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
S Rolen 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .320
M Stairs DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .275
L Overbay 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .280
M Scutaro SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
R Barajas C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .226
J Inglett LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0
Toronto Blue Jays
Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
A Burnett 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 5.19
Cleveland Indians
Hitters AB R H RBI BB SO AVG
G Sizemore CF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
B Francisco RF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333
D Dellucci LF 0 0 0 0 0 0 .241
V Martinez C 0 0 0 0 0 0 .346
J Peralta SS 0 0 0 0 0 0 .216
T Hafner DH 0 0 0 0 0 0 .215
R Garko 1B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .239
A Cabrera 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .194
C Blake 3B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .236
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0
Cleveland Indians
Pitchers IP H R ER BB SO HR PC-ST ERA
F Carmona 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 2.95
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 12:37 PM EDT
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Two straight days off for Gutierrez, anybody have a quote on that?
by NickFantana on
May 11, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
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Someone (Jay?) predicted that Francisco would take AB’s away from Gutierrez. They’re obviously going by “the book”—Francisco is supposed to be the better hitter against right-handed pitching, so he plays. I like Francisco well enough, but I hope they don’t reduce Gutierrez to a guy who only plays against lefties. Who knows, maybe they really are showcasing Francisco and plan to try to trade him before the league adjusts to him.
by peter m on
May 11, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
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Yes, Wedge in effect said so. He indicated that Francisco wouldn’t play every day, but he would get AB’s at the expense of Gutz. I think he used the word ‘proect.’ By this he means that Gutz likely won’t play against any right-hander with an average or better breaking ball. This was a good lineup for today, Gutz would’ve had very little chance against Burnett.
And though Wedge said that Ben Fran wouldn’t play everday, if he hits, he will play every day. Especially with the way this team has started out. Then we’ll have a Dellucci/Gutz platoon. I speculated about this in ST when I wondered if Ben Fran would play well enough in Winter Haven to take a job and force a trade of Michaels and a platoon of DD/Gutz. I was just a month-and-a-half early in my speculation.
As you can tell, I think this is going to happen. I also picked up Ben Fran on my fantasy team and dumped Gutz.
by TribeJay on
May 11, 2008 3:26 PM EDT
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Call me crazy, but although Gootz may well still have some struggles ahead, I doubt that Cisco will hit that much better (for very long) to outweigh the very significant difference in range, and a smaller difference in arm.
by Jay on
May 11, 2008 10:14 PM EDT
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not crazy
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 11, 2008 11:55 PM EDT
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I disagree with you a bit, Crazy. :)
I can tell that Gutz is improving, he’s having better AB’s against RHP…but he’s still got a ways to go since he was so awful to begin with. I still think Gutz has the higher ceiling, because if he can continue his improvement against RHP he could well have 30 HR power. But I think Francisco will likely be significantly better against RHP in 2008.
by TribeJay on
May 12, 2008 7:01 AM EDT
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So, by the way, what’s with the last-guy-to-get-an-avatar act?
by Jay on
May 12, 2008 10:23 AM EDT
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The weather forecast says showers (not steady rain), so I’ll bet they try to play the game today. It’s not raining (hard, anyway) right now. Just miserable, that’s all. The radar shows a lot of rain out by Toledo, but I don’t know if it’s supposed to head here or will go North or South of the city. I think the forecast for tomorrow is actually not as bad (at least the last one I saw was more positive). No snow, anyway.
by peter m on
May 11, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
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pouring now.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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Too bad, Kruk just predicted a no hitter by Fausto today. Guess they’re on a tape delay.
It's the Arizona talking, really.
by RD74 on
May 11, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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Since the Jays aren’t going anywhere today they can wait a long time.
by palcal on
May 11, 2008 1:01 PM EDT
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transplanted fan with no access to STO…can anybody tell me how long they said the delay will last?
by xrickx on
May 11, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
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they were on EI long enough to say they don’t know anything, but would check in every half hour.
by Brick. on
May 11, 2008 1:16 PM EDT
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Man…I finally am in at a time when I can watch a game and its delayed…at least our weather is better than yours for once…
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by Luis (Tribe Fan in London) on
May 11, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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Rain....
Was told here in the press box about 3pm….overall does not look all that good though
Matt
by mslprod on
May 11, 2008 1:19 PM EDT
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so, weird. the homepage is down (another tab) but i seem to be able to post here.
by Brick. on
May 11, 2008 1:26 PM EDT
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not down for me.
screw all these delays and postponements.
by afh4 on
May 11, 2008 1:36 PM EDT
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It’s working for me…although it loaded slowly.
by NickFantana on
May 11, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
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Perfect timing after the Indians went short on relievers.
by xrickx on
May 11, 2008 1:50 PM EDT
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AND with no off days soon, we’d run into the same problem with the rotation that gave Sowers a start earlier this season.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
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Meh…Laffey will pitch on the 15th against OAK, get sent down, and Sowers gets called up to start on the 16th in CIN. Sucks for Laffey, but it’ll have to happen.
by xrickx on
May 11, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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then Sowers down for Westbrook?
BUT – nothing has been cancelled yet.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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ATL/PIT delayed as well.
The Disabled List just called ... it was trying to unload Joe Borowski. I offered a bagel but balked at giving up a ham sandwich. It wanted to keep Westbrook.
by westbrook on
May 11, 2008 1:50 PM EDT
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Impromptu Buffalo Bisons game thread!!!
So we can follow, uh, umm…Barfield, I guess?
by APV on
May 11, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
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Aubrey’s pissed he got passed over. Two doubles today so far.
by APV on
May 11, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
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Rissi Palmer is one of my favorite rising stars in the minors.
by afh4 on
May 11, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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Should have a much more productive career than Pissy Ralmer, who was appropriately enough, a clubhouse cancer.
by emd2k3 on
May 12, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
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damn
Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.
by Gradyforpresident on
May 11, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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Wow am I nuts or did yesterday’s forecast for Cleveland suddenly change? I could’ve sworn that a few hours ago they were calling for rain all day tomorrow.
by supermarioelia on
May 11, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
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And by “yesterday’s”, I mean “tomorrow’s”. Eek.
by supermarioelia on
May 11, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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Oddly, the sun has just come out on the East side.
by peter m on
May 11, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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...and it hasn’t rained since like 2 PM. Aaaggh.
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by vbc3 on
May 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT
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In retrospect, they could very easily have played this game today – there was a clear window from around 3 o’clock through right now, only a bit of light rain. I wonder why the postponement to the DH, it’s not like they had anywhere to go today.
by DaveE on
May 11, 2008 6:54 PM EDT
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I thought we might have a shot at 1st place even without this game, but the Twins are up 5-0.
by dgcambridge on
May 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT
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Sigh. That was boring. Still, HIRE TRADITIONAL DOUBLEHEADERS
by Voltaire on
May 11, 2008 9:11 PM EDT
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Nathan making things interesting in Minneapolis.
by dgcambridge on
May 11, 2008 11:07 PM EDT
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Coco and Manny may be about to push us into first place …
by Jay on
May 11, 2008 11:11 PM EDT
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No, just a screwy play.
Crisp just made like Dave Roberts, tying run in scoring position now for Manny, two outs.
by Jay on
May 11, 2008 11:14 PM EDT
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Manny grounds out to shortstop … Twins still lead by 1 game.
Almost had a three-way tie at 18-18.
by Jay on
May 11, 2008 11:15 PM EDT
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How’s the weather in Cleveland today (it’s crappy in Philly, we’re getting your weather from yesterday)? I assume they’ll get these in, right?
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 12, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
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It’s supposed to clear up. Right now, it’s grey, but dry. Was raining off and on this morning.
by peter m on
May 12, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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the double header changed what wedge decided for the lineup from yesterday:
INDIANS (18-18): CF Grady Sizemore, 2B Jamey Carroll, LF David Dellucci, C Victor Martinez, RF Ben Francisco, DH Travis Hafner, 1B Ryan Garko, SS Asdrubal Cabrera, 3B Casey Blake.
by Brick. on
May 12, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
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