Game Thread: May 12, 2008 (Game 1)
Toronto Blue Jays @ Cleveland Indians
Toronto at Cleveland, 4:05 PM (STO)
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Blue Jays (17-21)
1. Brad Wilkerson rf
2. Aaron Hill 2b
3. Alex Rios cf
4. Scott Rolen 3b
5. Matt Stairs dh
6. Lyle Overbay 1b
7. Marco Scutaro ss
8. Rob Barajas c
9. Joe Inglett lf
Starting pitcher: RHP A.J. Burnett
Indians (18-18)
1. Grady Sizemore cf
2. Jamey Carroll 2b
3. David Dellucci lf
4. Victor Martinez c
5. Ben Francisco rf
6. Travis Hafner dh
7. Ryan Garko 1b
8. Asdrubal Cabrera ss
9. Casey Blake 3b
Starting pitcher: RHP Fausto Carmona
by dwight on
May 12, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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This Blue Jays lineup is amazing. Outside of Hill and Rios, its pretty much the lineup for the fictional 2008 expansion Portland Pioneers.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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I’ll take it. Seriously, bring Portland baseball. Damned Florida teams will probably make the playoffs just to spite us.
by pdxtribefan on
May 12, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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So today’s doubleheader is kind of big, yeah? Chance to go 2 games above .500 and possibly into first place, or fall 2 games below .500 and fall 2.5 games out of first…
by APV on
May 12, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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So I guess we see Peralta, Gutierrez and Marte in game 2? Or - gasp - Jason Tyner?
by peter m on
May 12, 2008 3:33 PM EDT
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if we see Tyner, he better be wielding a pie…
by APV on
May 12, 2008 3:34 PM EDT
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I propose that “Gasp – Jason Tyner” should be used every time we refer to him on this site for the next week or so while he is with the team.
Free Andy Marte!
by woodsmeister on
May 12, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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+1
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:05 PM EDT
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Game 1 is big…the lineup for game two will most likely be…
CF – Grady Sizemore
LF – David Dellucci/Ben Francisco/Jason Tyner
RF – Franklin Guitierrez
3B – Andy Marte
SS – Jhonny Peralta
2B – Jamey Carroll/Asdrubal Cabrera
1B – Ryan Garko/Casey Blake/Victor Martinez
C – Kelly Shoppach
DH – Travis Hafner/extra 1B
Basically, 4 positions up for grabs…
Thoughts?
by Tribe Alive on
May 12, 2008 3:35 PM EDT
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Marcum’s a righty, so it’s got to be Dellucci. And we’ll see Marte, and Peralta/Cabrera. And then I would think Travis sits for Victor.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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Agreed…
Who plays 1B then…Garko or Blake???
by Tribe Alive on
May 12, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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If only we could decide via text message voting.
by NickFantana on
May 12, 2008 3:55 PM EDT
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These are 1-866 numbers, not 1-800 numbers.
I’m so ashamed.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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Yeah, I was avoiding that one. Does Garko get the pink bats today? I say Garko.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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hire marte
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 3:38 PM EDT
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I’m starting to get nervous about Cabrera at short…..no matter how much Peralta struggles he’s one of our best hitters and a really good power threat. I hate to see him lose playing time.
by NickFantana on
May 12, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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I don’t think they’re going to replace Peralta at short any time soon. He’s been hitting poorly of late (although he had a good series in NY) so they’re resting him a bit. Plus, it’s a doubleheader, and Carmona is an extreme ground ball pitcher, so it makes sense to play Cabrera at short in this game rather than the second one.
by peter m on
May 12, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
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Should have clarified irrationally nervous…..I just like home runs too damn much.
by NickFantana on
May 12, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
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wait this game starts in like 10 minutes?
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
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4th traditional DH in history of the park, 1st since Aug 13. 1997
by palcal on
May 12, 2008 3:55 PM EDT
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We worry about not having enough power from our corner OF spots…..but the Blue Jays have our old utility infielder playing LF this afternoon. Or is there another Joe Inglett?
What am I missing? Where's Lind? Is he on "Hollywood Squares Leave"?
by Nat on
May 12, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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That’s weird I didn’t try to make that any different than the first couple lines…..
by Nat on
May 12, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
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It’s happened to me too. No idea.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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They sent him down to AAA! Apparently they were unimpressed by the 19 at-bats they’ve given him this year.
For all the complaining about Marte, just think, the organization could be run worse.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 12, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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a lot, lot worse, in fact.
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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You’re thinking of Super Joe Inglett. This is plain Joe Inglett.
by odradek on
May 12, 2008 6:51 PM EDT
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I’m watching “The Naked Gun” in German right now and man, German is not a funny language…
by APV on
May 12, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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yes.
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:06 PM EDT
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speaking of beer what did you see over the weekend?
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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I’ve been here before, so I wasn’t too thrilled to do tons of sight-seeing. But I went through the English Gardens on Saturday and spent a fair amount of time in the biergarten there (2nd largest in the city). Some museums, etc…
by APV on
May 12, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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i really liked the ethnology museum FWIW …
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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ever get a chance to go to the Federsee museum? Amazing regional archaeology museum, with house-replicas of each time period in the valley. Quite cool.
by macasson on
May 12, 2008 5:48 PM EDT
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Trapped at work. Dialup internet. No radio.
Help me, Obi-LGT. You’re my only hope.
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:04 PM EDT
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remember when we drafted brad snyder and people (e.g. gammons) were raving about the pick, comparing him to brad wilkerson? yup.
by macasson on
May 12, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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There are 14 people in the bleachers.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
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fly ball to opposite field? how?
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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And for the record, Carmona loks to have found the strike zone
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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where was that 0-1 pitch?
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:08 PM EDT
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Inside corner.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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I think Fausto+AsCab(SS)=Fun Potential
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by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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Hire groundouts.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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Oh my, i’m getting excited. Fausto is pounding the ball on the corners with good downward motion.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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good inning for fausto
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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Game started at 4:05. This comment at 4:09.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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Hire 9 pitch innings, too.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 12, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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Fausto looked 2007-ish in that inning. Worked quickly, too.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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I think this is the first game I’ve listened to on the radio since spring training, since I’m too lazy to go downstairs in front of the TV & should probably do some work anyway. Looking forward to hearing Hamilton go on a rant against something, though.
Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.
by zempf on
May 12, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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It shouldn’t be long now.
Great signature by the way.
by painaxl on
May 12, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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I’d like to get him started out with a run now, too
by APV on
May 12, 2008 4:11 PM EDT
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Burnett’s really 31? Man…doesn’t seem like he’s been around that long…
by APV on
May 12, 2008 4:12 PM EDT
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If you bunch his healthy seasons together, he’s really been around for like 3 years.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:13 PM EDT
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Jules update: Burnett mows down grady with some very fine looking moving fastballs and sliders. 3rd pitch was looking on a ball that started at him and moved over the inside half.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Flails weakly at a fastball on a 2-2 count. Strike 3.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Hegan with the understatement “Part of the problem is that he has a tough time staying healthy”
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:14 PM EDT
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Same pitch Grady drilled for a leadoff homerun two days ago, he watches for strike three today.
by xrickx on
May 12, 2008 4:15 PM EDT
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Carroll just K’d swinging.
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by zempf on
May 12, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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Looch rips a ball down the line that the first baseman got a peice of, held him to a single vs. a double.
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by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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i’m just glad it didn’t hold him to a single vs. a homerun.
by Brick. on
May 12, 2008 4:17 PM EDT
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Sportsline’s gamecenter doesn’t have too horrible a delay. It’s a bit inconsistent, but tolerable.
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:18 PM EDT
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How in the world did Burnett have a 10 pitch inning with a hit and two strikeouts?
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:19 PM EDT
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Delucci and Vic swung at the first pitch.
by xrickx on
May 12, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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Scott Rolen looks like my grandpa in his Gamecenter photo. Unfortunately for him, my grandpa’s dead.
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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To open both innings, Fausto has thrown picture perfect strikes, both called balls. I’m not talking pitches on the corner. I’m talking down the middle of the plate.
by xrickx on
May 12, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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Other than saying “the umpire is human,” there’s no excuse. And even then, 99.9% of the humans would have called it a strike.
by xrickx on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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the obligatory, “one of the best 3B to ever play the game” comment from Hammy
by APV on
May 12, 2008 4:20 PM EDT
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DP!
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by westbrook on
May 12, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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reporting.
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May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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And mother** Carmona looses the strike zone and isn’t close on 4 of 5 pitches to Rolen.
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by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:21 PM EDT
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And then spits in my face as Baboo turns a very nice DP off the first pitch. He got a kind of shit feed from Ascab, but turned it very nicely.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Im ascab’s favor, he got to the ball behind the second base bag moving towards RF.
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by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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“A shit feed from Ascab,” as in “Wow! Incredible! I can’t believe that shit!”
by Fiddlesticks on
May 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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It was low. and shitty. The fact that he got to the ball is stupendous, incredible, prodigious.
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by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Hi all.
I really love Asdrubal the SS.
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Right now, I'll take .500 and run. I'm a cheap happy.
by vbc3 on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Ha ha ha. I’m glad FC is on our team.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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ok honestly gameday has like 3/4 of fausto’s balls as perfect pitches
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Holy smokes, Lyle Overbay looks like a character in deliverance in his gamecenter photo.
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:22 PM EDT
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Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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by vbc3 on
May 12, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Holy crap, that was an unbelievable double play!
Keep AsCab at short!!!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
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May 12, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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i hope they put up a video of that on mlb gameday
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:23 PM EDT
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julie: more good defense, inning over.
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May 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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ump is calling the low strike – bodes well for Fausto!
You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person
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May 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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Fausto’s ball looks to be moving downward A LOT. Tough to call that a ball.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
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May 12, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Garko makes a SOLID diving grab on the line and saves a double, inning over.
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by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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That’s it. Move Garko to 2B. His bat will play fine there.
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May 12, 2008 4:24 PM EDT
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He will have more range than Baerga.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
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May 12, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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Blake our every day 1b? :X
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May 12, 2008 4:25 PM EDT
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What is this, March?
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May 12, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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shockingly, this has never been brought up, before.
by Brick. on
May 12, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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the question should honestly be whether Peralta can play 2B.
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May 12, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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he’d probably overthrow the 1B every time.
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by westbrook on
May 12, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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I’m sure it’s been brought up a lot. So, can he?
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:30 PM EDT
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He has in the past, but it’s been a few years.
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May 12, 2008 4:31 PM EDT
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yeah…one of the year’s he was together with Phillips in Buffalo he split time between SS and 3B. The problem is he goes from an above-average offensive SS to a marginal/average offensive 3B without increasing his defensive value at all in the move.
by APV on
May 12, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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Thanks. I figured they must have tried him at 3rd at some point, but I didn’t know.
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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The interesting thing (I think) is that he has never played an inning at 2b—at any level. I’d like to know why.
by ken from alexandria on
May 12, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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Peralta’s best defensive skill is his arm strength (his one defensive skill unquestionably above average). That skill gets wasted on the right side of the infield.
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May 12, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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exactly what I wanted to say.
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May 12, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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But I’m not buying it. Arm strength (with more of a short-arm motion, I’ll grant you) is what a 2b needs to turn the double play. That and quick feet carried Mazeroski to the H of F.
by ken from alexandria on
May 12, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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Stupidly, the Indians haven’t given him enough practice to be any good.
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May 12, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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I don’t think they will until a SS can prove they can hit in the big leagues
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May 12, 2008 4:32 PM EDT
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None of this makes sense. Who’d play 2B? If someone suggested Jhonny at 2B, that might fly (I think Jay has been pushing that, mildly). But, I think our infield defense is actually adequate, at worst, at the moment. It’s the hitting that’s awful (from all of the infielders, in varying degrees).
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May 12, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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it isn’t a huge problem – just the product of us seeing Droobs play gold glove SS.
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May 12, 2008 4:36 PM EDT
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In 2004, he played 59 games there in Buffalo and 2 with the big league club that year, totalof 9 games in 2003. That’s it.
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May 12, 2008 4:34 PM EDT
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Manny Ramirez = the best left fielder to ever play for Boston. Just ask him.
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May 12, 2008 4:27 PM EDT
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Without actually hearing manny, I think he may be joking.
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May 12, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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I sure hope so. :)
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May 12, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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ben fran looked terrible in that at bat
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by Gradyforpresident on
May 12, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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Its because of the uniform. It says “indians” on it.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
by Gradysmanldy on
May 12, 2008 4:28 PM EDT
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hafner below the mendoza line
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May 12, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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/wubs wittle nubbuws.
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May 12, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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Many players used them yesterday for Mother’s Day/Cancer awareness. As this game is replacing yesterday’s game for us … it’s fitting we are using them
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I don’t have video. So they are using them today?
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Am at work watching on gamecenter … no idea. Am guessing yes based on your comment.
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they are.
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May 12, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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choo begins his rehab assignment on wednesday. will likely be in buffalo for the max 20 days.
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May 12, 2008 4:33 PM EDT
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In those 20 days, will Tyner get more AB’s than Marte?
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May 12, 2008 4:35 PM EDT
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Thanks again, Droobs!
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Droobs shows Inglett why he’s an ex-Indian
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Caroll E-4.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
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May 12, 2008 4:37 PM EDT
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Gamecenter says Barajas infield single. Is that the same play?
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May 12, 2008 4:38 PM EDT
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Yea. Top-spin liner, tried to backhand it, kicked away from him.
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May 12, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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Damn. Shoulda had him.
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Blah. Walk.
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FIRE WALKS
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May 12, 2008 4:39 PM EDT
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they pretty much all looked like strikes on gameday
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May 12, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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Last one was down and in when vic set up away. Second pitch was a belt high, just right of the middle of the plate. Manning is in awe of this umpire.
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May 12, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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I’ve had issues the last THREE games with umpires. Cleveland’s been playing well in these games, so I assure you it’s not losers griping. These guys have just not had a clue.
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May 12, 2008 4:42 PM EDT
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Carmona looks like a different pitcher AB to AB.
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May 12, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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He’s the Rich Little of the AL-C.
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by vbc3 on
May 12, 2008 4:41 PM EDT
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And I’m old.
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May 12, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Yay!
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see below.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
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May 12, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Strikeout. :)
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May 12, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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here’s my guess: fausto’s pitches move so much that umpires have no idea whether they are strikes or not
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May 12, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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And maybe last year, the batters swung at more of them?
by Julie on
May 12, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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It looks like a farking curveball it’s breaking so much.
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May 12, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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Strike 3 to whoever that was was ABSOLUTE FILTH. He could swing at that pitch 10 times and miss it.
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May 12, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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it’s not filthy, THAT’S NASTY!
ESPN needs to die.
by Brick. on
May 12, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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More of us on this board today than actually in attendance at the Prog.
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May 12, 2008 4:44 PM EDT
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Hammy said over the weekend that day games were outdrawing night games for the Tribe. Maybe just because this is a makeup game
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May 12, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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Being its an unplanned Monday game. I can see why.
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May 12, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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And this is like a once-in-a-decade pitching lineup on our side, too. Having to listen to this instead of being down at the field is killing me. Sadly, the girlfriend has to work and I would be in the doghouse for weeks if I went and saw Fausto and Cliff without her.
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by vbc3 on
May 12, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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shall we start the generic cheer … Here we go Offense, here we go …..clap clap
by talonk on
May 12, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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False correlation. Day games are mostly weekend games.
by peter m on
May 12, 2008 4:45 PM EDT
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Anyone know if this first game is on MLB Extra innings?
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May 12, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Misread that as MLB TV. I retract my answer.
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May 12, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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Yup, it is. Our channel guide didn’t list it, but it’s on #6 in the lineup.
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May 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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FIRE BUNTS.
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by zempf on
May 12, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Cabrera’s such a good fielder, he scared Burnett into making an error!
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May 12, 2008 4:47 PM EDT
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OK, here we go. 2nd time through the lineup.
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May 12, 2008 4:48 PM EDT
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That sounds like some kind of eye infection.
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by vbc3 on
May 12, 2008 4:49 PM EDT
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They’ve been collecting our borderline middle infielders for years. It’s well know that Aaron Herr has been seen around Buffalo wearing a personalized Blue Jays uniform.
by dgcambridge on
May 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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Burnett’s scowling is hard to take seriously on the close up shots.
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May 12, 2008 4:50 PM EDT
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Curve must be wicked. Wasn’t close to being a strike, and he’s hacking.
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May 12, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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Burnett’s 12-6 Curve is second only to Sheets when he is on.
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May 12, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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third to Sheets and Zito … but “when he is on” is soooo 2005 for Zito.
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May 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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I know he is gritty and all, but Carroll is hitting less than Cabrera. Do we have to see this much of him?
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May 12, 2008 4:51 PM EDT
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agreed …
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May 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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He’s on base more than Cabrera. But, agreed.
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May 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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Yeah. And, that’s 4 K’s in the first 10 guys.
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5/11
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May 12, 2008 4:53 PM EDT
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It’s just like having Adam Dunn without giving up Laffey or Sowers.
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May 12, 2008 4:55 PM EDT
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and Lee.
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May 12, 2008 4:56 PM EDT
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outside?
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the zone suddenly includes low and outside.
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i’ve seen it called a strike before. carroll was not happy about it.
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May 12, 2008 4:54 PM EDT
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YAHHHH!!
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May 12, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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One-hop liner to Francisco who then threw a strike to third, taking down Rolen (who was heading around 2nd when the ball was fielded).
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May 12, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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BENFRAN
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May 12, 2008 4:57 PM EDT
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People will eventually stop running on our RF’ers.
"Mixed emotions. Rather see him hit PEDroia [with that pitch]. I don’t care if he is in the dugout"
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May 12, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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I shall continue my irrational love for Francisco.
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May 12, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Irrational? He’s the greatest ever!
by mjschaefer on
May 12, 2008 4:59 PM EDT
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benfran guns rolen at 3B on a stairs single to RF. one-hop, no doubter.
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May 12, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
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Weak groundout to 2B to end the inning.
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May 12, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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Not terrible considering he’s walked a couple.
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by zempf on
May 12, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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Time to load up AJ’s pitch count.
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May 12, 2008 5:01 PM EDT
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Didn’t see a thread on this elsewhere…who goes down when they call up Sowers for the Reds series? BenFran?
Man…Burnett’s sharp today.
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May 12, 2008 5:02 PM EDT
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Probably has to be Laffey, unless the Indians jettison Tyner. But why keep Laffey and Sowers up with the team? And if Westbrook is almost ready by that point, no reason not to jettison Laffey.
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May 12, 2008 5:05 PM EDT
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Tyner doesn’t make a ton of sense to DFA so soon…it’s not like they’d need to open up a slot on the 40-man, and there are plenty of guys with options they could do without for a week or 10 days or whatever the minimum is for optioned players.
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May 12, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Yikes.
Burnett made Vic look completely silly on that one-strike curveball.
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I just had to look & make sure we’d managed a hit today so I didn’t have to worry too much about the no-hitter, at least.
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at least having a no-no would put some pressure on AJ
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May 12, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Last time he did it I think he also managed to walk 8 or so. Wish he was doing that today.
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May 12, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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Yay. Pitcher’s duel. I guess I can organize my socks for an inning or so.
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May 12, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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Scutaro, Inglett…it’s like Ex-Indians-Farmhand-Utilityguy Day for the Blue Jays.
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May 12, 2008 5:09 PM EDT
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and to think McDonald is on the DL
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man, have they played them as their starting 2B, 3B, SS together yet?
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May 12, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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They’ve got Hector Luna stashed away at Syracuse, too. Just think of all the mediocre ex-Indians they could have in their infield right now.
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May 12, 2008 5:12 PM EDT
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Mediocre ex-Indians? Let’s see: McDonald, Inglett, Scutaro, Luna…My tally is one.
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May 12, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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I don’t get it, are you denying their mediocrity?
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by zempf on
May 12, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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Inglett, Scutaro, and Luna could only dream of mediocrity when they were in the Cleveland system.
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May 12, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
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Ah, OK. I thought you were going to try & tell me how great these guys are & what a fool Shapiro is for letting them all get away.
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May 12, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
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I’m no Joe Inglett apologist – okay, maybe I am – but he was pretty damn good as an Indians minor leaguer. He was never a real prospect, but the guy was an OBP machine who could play passably everywhere but pitcher and catcher.
Of course, there’s a difference between being a good minor league utilityman and a player that can help an MLB team. But as a minor leaguer, Inglett was rock solid.
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May 12, 2008 5:20 PM EDT
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Perhaps. But as far as the big-league club is concerned, only McDonald of that quartet approached mediocrity, and even that may be a bit generous. (Did Formerindiansfarmhandmarco Scutaro ever even get to Cleveland?)
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May 12, 2008 5:24 PM EDT
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Nah, I looked it up, he was a PTBNL in the Wickman trade.
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May 12, 2008 5:25 PM EDT
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Every day is EIFU Day in Toronto.
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May 12, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
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This is your future, Rodney Choy Foo.
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Ha ha, but he’s going to be busy playing football.
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May 12, 2008 5:13 PM EDT
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Hey, if he’s like every other Hawaii QB he’ll put up insane numbers in the run & shoot offense and get drafted in the late rounds to hold a clipboard for a few years. Not a bad gig if you can get it.
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May 12, 2008 5:16 PM EDT
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Wait, is Rodney actually playing quarterback at Hawaii? He’s like J.R. House without the talent.
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I seem to recall that I read that somewhere, yeah. Maybe not, though.
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Hawai’i has a new coach this year; June Jones is gone to SMU.
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Brennan will wind up starting after getting some experience sitting for a little whhile. And you can hold me to that.
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May 12, 2008 5:28 PM EDT
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what in the fuck
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May 12, 2008 5:14 PM EDT
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Underwood hangs with Inglett and Johnny Mac in the offseason? Man, Westlake is like the epicenter of mediocrity in the Winter.
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Does Larry get a windfall from the Newsday purchase? Maybe we can re-sign CC with that
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3 outs. Pitch count starting to rise, though.
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65 pitches through 5? I’ll take this every time.
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May 12, 2008 5:22 PM EDT
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Seriously, 13 pitches/inning is not bad at all.
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May 12, 2008 5:23 PM EDT
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True. I just meant he wasn’t going to pitch a complete game at this point.
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was that a spectacular play by BenFran, or a “why’d he make it that hard?” play?
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tw’eener. pulled by wilkerson, slicing away, with top-spin. not an all-out dive. probably should have just kept running.
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Somewhere in between. He did what he had to to make the play on a ball tailing towards the corner. Not sure I’d call it “spectacular,” though.
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This makes me so sad.
Due Up: T. Hafner (.213, 0-for-1), R. Garko (.237, 0-for-1), A. Cabrera (.192, 0-for-1)
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Game is half over and we have yet to even look like we are interested in making Burnett work … one baserunner .. .and 5 Ks. At least Toronot has had 6 baserunners.
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Three walks, an infield single, and a bloop hit. One hard hit ball (Stairs’ single) that found a hole.
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Burnett’s pitch count is pretty similar to Carmona’s, though (despite the walks). Neither team is channelling the Red Sox, let’s put it that way.
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We have absolutely torched Burnett every other time he’s appeared in Cleveland. Sad.
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Shadows crawling across the field.
Cue memories of the Bulldog/Moose 1997 ALCS game. One of my fave games evar.
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My bachelor party was during that game. I watched baseball…everyone else partied. And then I bitched out my best man for scheduling a bachelor party during something as important as an Indians playoff game.
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I had my best plan plan my bach party around an Indians game (of course it wasn’t the playoffs). Started drinking at 11AM for a 1PM day game, partied unit 2AM .. .great day.
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