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Hafner hitting 5th

by palcal on May 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Had a feeling it was long, but after posting in the Asdrubal thread, I think the new sig has to go. Concur?

Summary: HIRE KLIFF, HIRE LAFFEY, HIRE CC, HIRE WESTBROOK, HIRE FAUSTO. FIRE BYRD. HIRE BRESLOW, HIRE JENSEN, HIRE PEREZ. FIRE BETANCOURT IN NON-SAVE SITUATIONS. FIRE MASA IN 1-RUN GAMES. HIRE V-MART, HIRE SHOPPACH. HIRE GARKO. HIRE UNASSISTED TRIPLE PLAYS, BUG-EYED INFIELDERS AND FAT SHORTSTOP BATS (NOT GLOVES). HIRE LOOCH, HIRE BENFRAN, HIRE GUTZ. FIRE TYNER. fire wedge.
FIRE PROON. HIRE PRONK.
FIRE BLAKE. FREE MARTE.
(yes, 2 men were left out ... for obvious and opposite reasons)

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, that’s long.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fired.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FREE MARTE

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha ha, Byrd struck you out.

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m not a Byrd hater, not even close. But you have to feel like every 1-2-3 inning he gives us is like a little surprise present you find in your mailbox.

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good AB for Grady to start it off

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not such a good AB by Jhonny to follow.

by Jeffrey R on May 13, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the subhead for the current lead story on mlb.com:

After dropping three games to the Twins, the Sox turn to reigning AL Cy Young winner Josh Beckett.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

postseason, maybe.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I remember loading Paul Hoynes’ blog on cleveland.com the minute the Cy Young award was announced, and the headline was “CC unable to edge Beckett” or something. Then the page failed to load and it was immediately fixed.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow. Hegan just pointed out that over the last games, the Indians team batting average is .199. Yet, the team is 6-4.

by Jeffrey R on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hegan— 6-4 in last 10 games while batting .199

by palcal on May 13, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This franchise has a history with the player-manager. I nominate Victor Martinez for player-hitting coach.

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh, I bet he’d start Marte if he were the manager too.

by Jeffrey R on May 13, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On the board. Nice.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

run!

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by Gradyforpresident on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Way to go, Pronk!

by Jeffrey R on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hafner must feel some relief.

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pronk!!

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HOoray for a RUN

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Normally I think Underwood is reading too much into things, but hopefully this team was at least a little embarrassed when Wedge called them out last night.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What did he say? I must have missed that..

You have no idea the physical toll that three vasectomies have on a person

by jakesinger777 on May 13, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Now maybe I’m reading too much into this.” and then pointed out that Hafner slammed his fist into his open palm after rounding first. As if to suggest he’s relieved over getting something going early.

Writing it does make it seem silly. I just like that we’re on the board early.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Jake was asking what Wedge said. At any rate, that’s what I’d like to know.

by NickFantana on May 13, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Our approach was as poor if not the poorest I’ve seen here all year,” Wedge said. “No excuses for it. No excuses. We were giving away at-bats all night long.”

LINK

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoops. Didn’t even think that maybe someone didn’t see it. It was my favorite quote from yesterday’s sports world other than “Lebron James, with no regard for human life…”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i thought that line was fucking hilarious

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Amen. And delivered right on time.

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ve probably used it conversationally four or five times since it happened.

“Anyone want a beer? I’m going to grab one with no regard for human life.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like this one:

“It was a triple play,” Wedge said matter-of-factly, as if such a thing happens every night. “I’m not going to talk about it. We didn’t win the game.”

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I want to know is, what about YOUR approach, Eric Wedge? Do you think that you can just play Jason Tyner without everyone else giving up?

by NickFantana on May 13, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

amen, sir.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

one run. cliff lee jealous.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Paul Byrd will not be shown up by the rest of this staff.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And immediately gives up a hit.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

uh oh – Byrd thinks his pitch count is in the 90s.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just catching up.

stomp, stomp, hiss.
nice ab by grady.
come on hafner, do something here.
FINALLY.
fine, let Blake play 1B and FIRE GARKO

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep, I mean if Wedge is dying to play Blake, he can sit Gark for a little while, and give Marte a week of starts. But that would be CRAZY.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zz

Oops, missed that one.

Ha ha, Byrd struck you out.

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If Westbrook is healthy, it’s appropriate to deal Byrd in the next month. Laffey is ready, Sowers deserves another shot, Brian Slocum wouldn’t be awful for a few starts, and that’s before I even discuss Adam Miller and David Huff.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Peralta is now the 8th Indian to bat 2nd in the order this year

by palcal on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wtf? hammy?
VIC – hope you’re ok

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shit, that did not look good

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

vic blocked thomas, but might have gotten his leg yanked into a pulled muscle in the process.

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clog the bases, indeed.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

victor is hurt????

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by Gradyforpresident on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

blocked thomas’ slide. vic kinda got spun around.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1) defense is a beautiful thing.

2) grady’s arm looks fine when frank thomas is running.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

frank thomas looked friggin ridiculous “sliding” into home. like when a cartoon character starts running but the legs just churn and he goes nowhere

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The third base line is pushed back like bad carpet.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he probably did that on purpose to injure vic

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do you actually believe that? Really?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its my frank thomas hate coming out.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cabrera roped one to third….bad luck.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mule (trivia answer)

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hire Delucci!!

by Nat on May 13, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’d be unfair to tyner.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m sure Wedge will find a way to use Buffalo’s Worst Hitting Outfielder™.

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, nice basketball game last night, eh?

by dgcambridge on May 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Silly, the Rockers haven’t existed for years. Whatever could you be referring to?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Pipers

"the most vehement Yankee-hating guy I know" - Jay

by mauichuck on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WOW, stomp, hiss

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

1. Yay, a run.

2. Boy I wish we’d scored that one two or three innings earlier.

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Right now, I'll take .500 and run. I'm a cheap happy.

by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

damn it jhonny.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wasn’t a strike. shouldn’t swing it at.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pay for my cable, and I’ll tell you that :D

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its those kinds of innings that bother me

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KKK Byrd – uh oh

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is the whatever-happens-I’m-not-walking-you aggressive Paul I liked from last year.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lordy.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great game, Frank

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Byrd’s trying to get into the Indians’ ace discussion

by baergagaga on May 13, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Joe Thomas is a part of Outdoor Ohio now? Boy, does that kid fit here.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anybody else hear about the indians trying to get Rockies 3rd baseman garrett atkins for Laffey and Barfield? heard on STO who heard it from Buster Olney

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Didn’t hear this. Was it from Bruce Drennan? Careful there.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep from Drennan. apparently olney wrote about it somewhere, dont know where

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ESPN’s Buster Olney makes a point to say that this trade idea is pure speculation rather than anything he’s heard.

Here.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know its a rumor, but an interesting rumor

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But it’s not a rumor. It’s speculation.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its a speculative rumor

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. It isn’t. Buster Olney flat out admits just pulling this one out of thin air. It’s no more a rumor than if you or I said “The Indians should trade Adam Miller to Toronto for Alex Rios.” That doesn’t become a rumor because someone opined on it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least it opened up a rousing discussion

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’re trading for Rouse?

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s not really what I’m arguing.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

atkins is largely a product of coors field.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and he just got expensive this year.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not so… according to STO he has 37 homers at home and 37 homers away. he does have some more RBIs at coors though

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His career OPS+ is significantly lower away from Coors Field

by Jeffrey R on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

again, just a rumor, but something to think about

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

let me summarize: for the right price, hell yea. but that price, in my opinion, doesn’t include aaron laffey. atkins can’t be had for free. but with byrd and sabathia leaving after this year, i think laffey will be needed in 2009.

then you have the issue of atkins being arb eligible and a free agent after 2010, so he’ll be making be making in the neighborhood of $15M the next two years. and then there’d be the disposal of andy marte.

and atkins isn’t a good third baseman. basically, he’s the kind of guy you love to develop yourself, but who it pain you to acquire by other means.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it goes a little deeper than that. consider 2005-2007: (AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS)

Home: .345/.407/.541/.948

Away: .275/.346/.446/.792

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats still better than the larger part of our lineup now

There's always next year...and the next year...and the next year...

by HireRockyColavito on May 13, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

... in the NL …

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on May 13, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watching the rockies’ playoff games last year, I thought to myself - honest to god - “I’d love for this guy to be our 3b.”

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and the hardball times finds him a pretty shitty third baseman.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuck that shit. i wouldn’t trade laffey straight up for atkins.

Sizemore-Shapiro 2008. The Official Red Bull of Let's Go Tribe Game Threads.

by Gradyforpresident on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I guess the point would be to insure less playing time for Marte.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I dont like it, but I don’t know anything about Atkins.

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on May 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this offense sucks.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zzzzzz

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Right now, I'll take .500 and run. I'm a cheap happy.

by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously. This game (and thread) is barely disturbing my crossword puzzling.

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yay! hire simulated game!

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha — facing Tyner, Marte and Carroll. Yeah, that’s a simulated game all right.

by baergagaga on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hehe.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Today’s Hammy rant: Florida doesn’t deserve MLB

by baergagaga on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

billy beane has to be seething after that display of managing

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welcome to the Cobra KKKKKai dojo, Mr. Murphy. You may be seated.

by Joe Charboneau on May 13, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By goodness he looks Clifftonian tonight.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For the record, mlb.com still claiming Beckett as the reigning Cy Young winner.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking of which, reigning AL MVP Victor Martinez has made some nice plays in the field tonight.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, I’m glad reigning AL MOY Eric Wedge found a spot for him in the lineup tonight.

Wait.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m ready to chalk this up as a 1-0 victory and move on.

by Joe Charboneau on May 13, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll take it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I pine for Grady.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now THATS a legitimate dive.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay, who hasn’t made a spectacular play in the last few games?

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meh, that one only counted for one out. Yawn.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Manning must be a hero in the old lady community the way he constantly gives them birthday shout-outs.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, Byrd really doesn’t want to be forgotten on this staff.

Stomp stomp hiss.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This just in: Beckett downgraded to “ace.”

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

even though tonight he is actually pitching like a reigning cy young winner

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

CC-style!

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s given up nine runs?

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

five. to baltimore.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You guys do know that CC has been pretty darn good his last four starts, right?

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Try it this way, it’s more fun.

by Jay on May 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that’s amazing. tribe starters with 33 consecutive scoreless innings.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s make it 3 straight nine-inning SHO efforts. Pretend we’re the October version of the 2005 White Sox.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You had me, then you lost me. Ick.

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No one was sicker over the results than me.. But that was an impressive postseason.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We really have become the Twins. Any minute now Ron Gardenhire is going to remove his Eric Wedge mask and reveal his true identity, followed quickly by Johan Santana removing his Cliff Lee mask.

by Joe Charboneau on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I’d go postal if Ron Gardenhire was ever affiliated with the Cleveland Indians.

"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series

by Eric Plunk on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Casey Blake revealing he really is Nick Punto. To collective shrugs.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Jason Tyner will remove his Jason Tyner mask

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Actually Tyner should feel comfortable in this 1920’s offense.

We should start taking trains to west coast trips.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We’re not in the PCL, we just play like it.

by Fiddlesticks on May 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I feel you should know that “Jason Tyner will remove his Jason Tyner mask” has been making me snicker every time I think of the line for… since I backread this post last night.

Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on May 14, 2008 10:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey, a hit!

"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series

by Eric Plunk on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

zzzzzzzzzsnurk huh what where

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Right now, I'll take .500 and run. I'm a cheap happy.

by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

grady to left field. i approve.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can Jhonny bhunt?

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i’d rather not find out.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His BA at home is about .140. Amazing.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

-ly bad.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

his batting average on the year is .200

do you really think he’s a .200 hitter?

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. But, that’s what he’s hitting now. I wouldn’t bat him second until he shows he can make contact with some regularity.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

alternatives: blake, gutierrezm garko?

the only alternative i can think of is to just skip the second spot in the lineup and go right from 1st to 3rd.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Mets tried that the other day (or something like it ). It results in an out. But, so does having the regular #2 guy bat.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Easy Grady! That was close

"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series

by Eric Plunk on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hahe grady was leaning man…whew.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who would have guessed that Byrd’s season-high in Ks is 2 higher than Fausto’s at this point? Wow.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to go, twanny twanny.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rick Manning just said he would bunt MORE if he were managing. MORE.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

At this rate, I would be bunting more in hopes of yielding throwing errors

"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series

by Eric Plunk on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In fairness, he said he’d bunt more because we can’t hit for shit.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Right, that’s an excuse for making the dumbest comment imagineable.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he could have said he’d play marte less.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, that is really, really funny and a great reference.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s still not in fairness.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s solid. Nothing helps a struggling offense than having less outs to work with.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

another uninspiring at bat from JP. i am starting to lose my phatience

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAMMY: Obviously, more breaking pitches means more hangers.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How can the guy with the worst OBP on the team bat second? Not a rap on Peralta, but really…

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I’d have committed myself to an asylum is Carroll was in there again.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t make me cut you! (Though I kinda agree.)

by Julie on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eh that last pitch was outside

"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series

by Eric Plunk on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

to his credit, this guy’s been pretty good all night though.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Be a hero, Travis.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m feeling a 3-run bomb right here.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hafner is going to hit a ball hard here. that IBB will wake the sleeping giant

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let’s hope so. No-brainer move by Oakland though

"Albert Belle blooped the ball over the fence." -- Atlanta Braves manager Bobby Cox after Game 5 of the 1995 World Series

by Eric Plunk on May 13, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It might just. Significant disrespect.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you can’t disrespect somebody who doesn’t deserve any respect.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Happens all the time. Hafner just earned another helping of the same.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitch 3 was the mistake and he missed it.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gawd. Sure was.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm, pitch 5 was a hanger, just outer half, and he rolled it over trying to pull it. It’s been nearly a month since his opposite-field homer against Detroit, which was the moment I thought he was back.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was uneventful.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he’s mastered the meaningless groundout to the right side.

by xrickx on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now he is just matt lawton, but at twice the price

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New “shift” hits the books: all infielders step forward about 20 feet.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know, I can remember back when…....

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Overlooked by that awful outcome was the comment preceding it by Underwood.

“I don’t have the data to back this up”-which you know means it’s going to be fun-“but it seems to me more home runs are hit on full counts than any other count.”

I have to find this out.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wait, he said that? Seriously? During which at bat? I have to go back and listen.

I mean, you can’t look it up yourself or just ask someone to?

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s hard to look things up when your mouth is moving compulsively.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The pitch before the groundout.

Mannings response was, “I would have no idea.”

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’ll bet having men on base when these happen results in an increased amount of total runs, too.

Dunno if I’d stake my reputation on that, though.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shall we look it up?

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as long as we doesn’t include me, yes.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And walks lead to more runs than homers.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only if the batter is more Casey than Jeter.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My money’s on 0-0, but 2-1 and 2-0 are probably high up on the list.

by Jay on May 13, 2008 9:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice Byrd, but I’d have a very quick hook ready.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And Underwood has been denied.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For the record:

87 home runs this year on full counts.
100 on 2-2 counts.
175 on first pitch.

That’s just this year however, per STO.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did STO post that on screen following Underwood’s BS? Did he admit he was an idiot? I’m salivating here.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

“Redbird,” who I believe is their producer, looked it up for him and had it ready for Underwood to read on air within about 6 minutes of Underwood saying it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have to go back and see this. Did he also say, “Wow, turns out I’m an idiot who has little intuition for this game”?

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Not quite.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HA HA.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That’s pure numbers but not rates.

There are far more 0-0 counts than 3-2 counts.

by Jay on May 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

UPDATE: Yep, Underwood said exactly that.

I mean, Christ, he doesn’t even seem remotely interested in finding out. He just felt comfortable enough making a stupid claim. Even Manning seemed dumbfounded, which is really saying something.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There’s a fair amount of ego involved to just throw a fact out that you admit may or may not be true.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And it’s not even logical. He just felt it, said it, and doesn’t seem concerned with whether or not he was close to correct.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matt and Joe Morgan would call a good game. Wasn’t Joe wrong sometime last year when recalling something that happened in his own career?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does Byrd pitch the 8th? He’s in the mid-80s (number of pitches, that is). Wedge usually pulls him pretty early, probably with reason.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He’s done; gotta be.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus, Sweeney is up, and he kills Byrd.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garko is making Hafner look like Victor.

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Weirdly enough, even though we didn’t score ANYTHING last night, this feels like a new low ebb for us.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

(he says with two men now on base)

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

indians right handed hitters are 1 for their last 41. how is that possible?

by mpstable on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don’t you know that this is a Cleveland sports franchise? Anything is possible.

Disappointed by the Indians since 1995.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah yes, a title.

Disappointed by the Indians since 1995.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No way do we have one hit in our last 41 AB. Who got it? I’d have guessed zero.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

8-16. How the hell did we ever win 8?

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It’s a miracle.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even a blind squirrel…

by peter m on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Byrd doesn’t appear to be done.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m usually the loudest PULL BYRD shouter, but I’d keep him in there at least to start the 8th.

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You mean you don’t have confidence in our bullpen? Blasphemy.

Disappointed by the Indians since 1995.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 13, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Welcome to Cleveland, Justin. Where opposing pitchers post fabulous losses/NDs.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Going back to Underwood’s comment, I have to point out something that seems obvious to me. Maybe the analysts here can take a whack at it.

Very few at-bats actually make it to a full count. Every single batter sees a first pitch. Logically, the most home runs HAVE to come on the first pitch, right? Just because there are so many more opportunities?

by Chemo on May 13, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would agree and I’m thinking hitters usually have more defensive approaches with two strikes

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In fact we could go into significant depth as to why 3-2 home runs are much less likely to occur than on other accounts. Many many logical reasons. But it’s not worth refuting such a retarded claim.

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You seem to be on the right track.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Matt Underwood doesn’t understand Base Ball-Related Happenings.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFudge.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Underwood: “Not surprising that Grady’s one for three, considering his career average against Oakland coming in was .328.”

I mean, I could compile a list long enough to get a Single A announcer canned.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And he probably thought that was brilliant.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

at least he has more of an understanding of math than most announcers

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My hatred for Alan Embree is exceeded only by my hatred for our hitting this season.

Disappointed by the Indians since 1995.

by FaustosSinkingFastball on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

noooooo not masa

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who inspires confidence for you in the bullpen now?

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You sounded like Edward G. Robinson right there.

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im afraid to ask who that is.

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on May 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just making a silly Ten Commandments ref. :)

“Where’s your Moses now?”

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by vbc3 on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rick Vaughn.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HIRE DEFENSE!

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barfield could hit .400 in Buffalo and he probably wouldn’t have anywhere to go at this point. Cabrera’s just endearing himself too much.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I tell ya, I don’t buy that range factor stat if AbaCab is at the bottom. Okay, I find it somewhat credible, but I love watching him make the spectacular play.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was a far better play than the TP last night.

by SuddenSam on May 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

our defense is balls awesome.

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Defense, Defense, Defense

Had to chime in. I’m lovin’ the D all home stand, their making me eat my post from last week.

by JoeyBelleRedux on May 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

can one hit .200 and win a gold glove?

It's the Arizona talking, really.

by RD74 on May 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

jeter does it every year

(i know, i know)

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

from my short-lived signature:
FIRE MASA IN 1-RUN GAMES

Give Marte a Chance.

by westbrook on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I’d suggest we try to develop some sort of CofT this season.

by tabler84 on May 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Our starters have been so good, that Wedge has to make meaningless changes to get everyone time

by Roger Dorn on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why is perez suddenly being used as a loogy? did he get shelled by righties in april when i was gone or something?

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I know this is the right call from a matchup standpoint. But they’ll probably pinch-hit a lefty anyway. In a 1-0 I just think maybe we should have the thought of extra innings in the back of our mind.

But still the right call.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In a 1-0 game, that is.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FIRE JAGOFFS IN THE DUGOUT BOX SEATS TRYING TO WAIVE TO THE CAMERA

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mine would have been up first if I hadn’t typed a thesis on it.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i gain speed by ignoring all typos

by Brick. on May 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I respect the efficiency.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on May 13, 2008 9:13 PM EDT