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Game Forty-Four: Reds 6, Indians 4

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Highest WPA Lowest WPA
Jamey Carroll .131 Cliff Lee -.287
Casey Blake .084 Michael Aubrey -.130
Jensen Lewis .028 Victor Martinez -.106

Let's get this out of the way first: the Indians cannot win a game as presently constituted if the starting pitcher does not go at least six innings and allow less than four runs. And three runs allowed is pushing it.

Cliff Lee finally came back to earth, giving up 10 hits and five runs in 5.2 innings. Last year, we would have taken that kind of outing from Cliff, and besides, the offense was actually capable of winning a shootout. Those fastballs which were formerly kept to the edges of the plate found their way to the middle of the zone, and most of them got hit hard somewhere.

The Indians' offense "exploded" for four runs on eleven hits. with most of those hits spread throughout the starting lineup. Michael Aubrey got his first major-league hit in the fourth inning, a home run. Jamey Carroll was on base three times; sadly, he's had one of the better on-base percentage on the team.

Yes, they were facing NL ERA leader Edinson Volquez, but at what point do we stop clinging to the desperate idea that the Indians have faced twenty straight great pitching performances? And when are other fans going to catch on that their pitchers aren't actually shutting down a good offense?

 

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the only thing worse than getting swept, is having an off day after getting swept.

by Brick. on May 19, 2008 11:13 PM EDT   0 recs

At what point do we stop clinging to the desperate idea that the Indians have faced twenty straight great pitching performances?

I think that moment has already passed, based on the level of despair at LGT. Though Shawn Marcum was good.
And when are other fans going to catch on that their pitchers aren’t actually shutting down a good offense?

I would say never. “That’s a big-league team over there,” as the bromide has it.

by odradek on May 19, 2008 11:31 PM EDT   0 recs

All true Tribe fans should come to expect some sort of collapse, lull, what have you. I mean ITS CLEVELAND, I have been waiting for this for a while. In 06 my boys did not let me down. This year, its just “the Tribe being the tribe”, Wedge being Wedge, Buffalo being Buffalo, the short, skinny Cabrera being Cabrera, pudgy fatstop being Peralta. Capt Klutch being bearded and playing third. I just wish we had held on to Manny being Manny or Thome being Thome, or Brandon Phillips being a Red.

by lesterjl on May 19, 2008 11:54 PM EDT   0 recs

One more thing, using a quote from my uncle whenever I get upset at a bad golf shot, The tribe’s not good enough to get mad at poor play.

That being said, please prove me wrong. I really do not want to have only V-Mart’s/Sizemore’s All Star appearance and stat watch to look forward to the rest of the year.

by lesterjl on May 19, 2008 11:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Congrats on your no-hitter last night!

by Roger Dorn on May 20, 2008 7:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Shoot, I was gonna make that joke.

by Denver Tribe Fan on May 20, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks. Don’t tell anybody I am a Triber fan though. Lord knows we don’t want another speculation definition debate.

by lesterjl on May 20, 2008 6:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I’m just going to take a flyer here, but I think one or two of our starting pitchers might make the All-Star roster. Not that that’s much consolation.

by Denver Tribe Fan on May 20, 2008 11:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

A severe case here. If only they hadn’t demolished Municipal Lakefront. They never let us down, those teams of Ernie Camacho and Miguel Dilone.

by odradek on May 20, 2008 8:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

IT[‘]S CLEVELAND
IT’S BASEBALL
IT’S CLEVELAND BASEBALL

Of course, this is pure speculation.

by Fiddlesticks on May 20, 2008 10:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You have fun with that.

Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on May 20, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Agree whole heartedly with Brick. Ugh. Especially for those of us that are bigger fans of Cleveland than Lebron. At the same time, though, I remember some rough times early last year, too. I don’t think we were this bad offensively, but we weren’t hitting. Pronk sucked. Barfield was our 2B, for crying out loud. And we did alright. It’s a long season. And we’re second place to the White Sox. If that’s not a team that won’t come back to you, then God Speed, Chicago.

I guess I’m just going on record as saying it’s not time to worry just yet.

Il faut d'abord durer.

by CU Adam on May 20, 2008 3:27 AM EDT   0 recs

I agree. It’s May 20th. With a disastrous bullpen, the Indians lead the AL in team ERA. Our anemic offense has scored 183 runs while the pitching staff has allowed 157. According to the James Pythagorean theorem, our winning percentage should be .567, which would put us at roughly 25 wins instead of 22. The team that was supposed to be our strongest competitor for the AL Central is currently 10 games under .500. We’re on our way to Chicago. It’s dark. And we’re wearing sunglasses.

by Denver Tribe Fan on May 20, 2008 12:11 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Hit it!

Free Andy Marte!

Pronk Needs You

by woodsmeister on May 20, 2008 1:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

To get back to the playoffs, you have to win these divisional series.

The next 5 out of 7 series are against divisional foes (16 games total). So, these next three weeks are going to determine a good chunk of our fate. The key is not letting any team (other than us) run away with this thing. Stopping the White Sox is the first step in that.

It’s a terrible stretch to go through without any idea who the closer is or who even our #3 hitter is on any given day. This team needs to get some semblance of order before it gets too late.

by Toxicadam on May 20, 2008 8:33 AM EDT   0 recs

Just a few words in defense of our boys.

Volquez now has a 3.00 ERA against the Indians, 1.12 against everybody else. 10.6 K/9 against everybody else, 7.5 against us. Indians: one HR, one 2B. Everybody else: one HR, three 2B — that’s not the average, that’s the total for his other seven starts.

So we did very well against Volquez. Harang, not so much. But Cueto, we actually hit very well.

Cueto faced 24 batters, got 7 K and 2 BB, and gave up three HR. That leaves 12 balls in play, and not one of them dropped for a hit. That is some rotten luck. The next ten batters, against middle relief, we got two doubles, two strikeouts, one walk, four more outs on balls in play. Over all, we probably weren’t patient enough, but we hit enough balls hard and just couldn’t buy a single all day long.

The hitting is in sorry shape, don’t get me wrong. But it wasn’t as miserable in the Reds series at it appeared to be.

by Jay on May 20, 2008 11:28 AM EDT   0 recs

We can take solace in knowing that although Masa blew the game the other night, aside from that he has pitched well. Once these jitters are gone, I see him becoming an effective MLB pitcher. He has proven that thus far. I see him maturing and being used more. Of course I am biased and want nothing more than him to succeed in the bullpen.

by lesterjl on May 20, 2008 6:13 PM EDT   0 recs

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