Game Forty-Five: White Sox 4, Indians 1

by Ryan on May 21, 2008 12:02 AM EDT in Game Recaps Comment 39 comments

Highest WPA		Lowest WPA
CC Sabathia	.134	Grady Sizemore	-.122
Ryan Garko	.039	Ben Francisco	-.115
		Jensen Lewis	-.100

The word of the day is...

listless adj. Having or showing little or no interest in anything; languid; spiritless; indifferent

Related forms: listlessly, listlessness

[Origin: 1400-50, late Middle English]

Examples:

1. The Indians' offense was listless; their only run of the game came on the most listless of scoring plays, the ground out.

2. C.C. Sabathia was not listless, striking out eight White Sox in seven innings of work.

3. Andy Marte sat listlessly in the dugout, knowing that even with the entire lineup trapped in a vortex of suck, he wouldn't get a chance to play.

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I asked this before the game, but did we really think Frisco in the 2-hole was going to pay dividends? He’s a free swinger, and up to this point in his major league career he’s thrived in the role of the “we’ll take whatever we can get from you” guy. I know we don’t exactly have better options for that spot in the lineup, and maybe it was an effort to just shake things up. And maybe I’m being overly critical. And maybe I should go to bed.

by supermarioelia on May 21, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I think it’s just more of trying to get about the only guy who is swinging (and hitting the ball) with any authority as many at-bats as possible. I don’t think he’s looking at it from a “taking pitches” perspective.

by TribeJay on May 21, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It seemed to me that the tribe did a good job “working” the count, and was ahead in the count often against Contreras. But then when it came time to actually hit the ball, nothing. Why? I have no idea.

by oxforddave on May 21, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

It’s true he doesn’t walk a lot, but at least in his minor league career, he didn’t really strike out a lot either. He’s a high-contact guy. Which may or may not be what we need in the 2-hole, but it’s what he provides.

by APV on May 21, 2008 7:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was kind of in-and-out of the game all night .. but what I gathered could be summed up in a sequence of plays.

Dellucci begins an inning with a double.
Casey Blake doesn’t get a bunt down (then they take off the sign on the next pitch?)
Dellucci makes a poor choice trying to be aggressive and gets out.
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A few innings later, Dellucci is up to bat with runners on base. He strikes out.

If Dellucci gets his double in the later inning .. its a different ball game. If Blake gets that bunt down, who knows what could happen?

Whenever we have something positive happen in this offense, it just seems like it happens at the wrong time. It’s just all going wrong.

by Toxicadam on May 21, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It looked to me that he wasn’t squaring around in a straight sacrifice. He either planned to go for a hit or was just going to take the pitch anyway.

by TribeJay on May 21, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Kinda amazing that even despite his awful start, C.C. is still tied for second in MLB in strikeouts.

by maledicta on May 21, 2008 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hey, in less than 20 hours, we get to experience this all over again!

by Toxicadam on May 21, 2008 1:35 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I wanna experience something a bit more than this past week. Like a 12-2 rout. When do we play the Royals again?

by lesterjl on May 21, 2008 2:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Texas is coming up. They are quite capable.

by Toxicadam on May 21, 2008 3:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Texas has been hot lately and have the same amount of wins as us. Oof.

by ahowie on May 21, 2008 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Texas IS Josh Hamilton. Good gravy.

by fleerdon on May 21, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and I love how the Yahoo recap of the game is titled “Contreras outpitches Sabathia”. That’s a little bit of a stretch.

by ahowie on May 21, 2008 8:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Sigh ….. at least I got the Contreras win in my fantasy league …. sigh …...

by talonk on May 21, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Free Andy Marte

by Pronk33 on May 21, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Positivity Alert:

Think of how fun Ozzie’s blow up will be when we pass them agian in the standings.

by Brick. on May 21, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

...Ozzie and blow up in the same sentence…

Give Marte a Chance. FIRE SHELTON. Find Wedge a Hot Seat.

by westbrook on May 21, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

http://instantrimshot.com ?

Disclaimer: this post doesn't mean what you think it means.

by AngG on May 21, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I approve of this link.

by gte619n on May 21, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wow -

Over on Camden Chat, part of SB Nation, there is this rule for joining:

If you ever, ever post "FIRST!" as a comment with no text behind it, and it doesn’t have anything to do with anything other than your comment being the first one posted, I will ban you on the spot, I kid you not.

Much more intense than LGT rules. I feel safe and warm over here.

by steincat on May 21, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

FIRST!

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 21, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Which is to say, I’m glad we don’t have a run of people trying to post firsties that would lead to this sort of rule.

Despite all of my best intentions, I have not, in fact, grown up to be a debaser.

by zempf on May 21, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Many blogs do that.

But why were you on Camden Chat?

by gahnki on May 21, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You’ve never been?

by steincat on May 21, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I’ve been to a few other SBN baseball sites but I didn’t think there was anything worthwhile at Camden Chat. So, is there?

by gahnki on May 21, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dunno. I only read that one article. It wasn’t all that great – more of a rant.

They use their comments as lead-in to their statement, which I find terribly annoying and inefficient.

by steincat on May 22, 2008 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Seriously though.

All this talk about Barry Bonds, and I saw on the side panel from “Other SB Nation sites” something about Barry Bonds and the union.

Link

And so I went to read about ol’ Barry – not all that interesting. But I also noticed the rules for posting there and thought it was pretty funny.

As an aside – does anyone know why those stories show up on that grey box for stories from around SB Nation?

by steincat on May 21, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

FIRST! I think that’s pretty funny.

SECOND! Why were you reading Camden Chat? I’m just curious.

Also! I think think this is a little off topic.

by Brick. on May 21, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I could support an automatic ban for anyone who uses the phrase “I kid you not.”

"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."

by Fiddlesticks on May 21, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you’re kidding, right?

by Brick. on May 21, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is blatant “I kid you not” baiting, which also will not be tolerated.

by steincat on May 21, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As long as it isn’t “Demolishing a Bathroom” or “Firing a NounVerb” .... it’s cool.

by talonk on May 21, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

OK -

I’m heading to the game tonight and this is the gear I’m wearing. Over / Under on Sox fans commenting some version of “The Indians suck”?

I’m going to say 10, just because the Sox are in first place and they just beat CC last night.

by steincat on May 21, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I’ll take the under. People are non-confrontational. I remember being at Comiskey and having this crazy old guy next to me yelling filthy things at Belle. Then he learned I was a Tribe fan and was totally friendly and backed down. Although he did share this winner with me: “How are Michael Jackson and Albert Belle alike?” Answer: “They both wear one glove for no particular reason.”

I also remember throwing away a promotional White Sox towel in disgust as I was walking on the ramps and hearing a kid behind me whisper: “Did you see that, Dad? That guy just threw away his towel?” I like to think that kid’s world got just a little bit sadder.

by dgcambridge on May 21, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree – at the seats you don’t get too much harassment.

I find it typically on the ramps and hitting the trough, or grabbing something to eat. People passing by like to spout off with their friends around and laugh.

At any rate, I’ll track it and give the feedback. We’re also heading over there pretty soon and hanging out in the parking lot for an hour, so that provides some trash-talking opps that normally wouldn’t exist.

by steincat on May 21, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So was it fun watching a game at Comiskey with Chuck?

"A good body with a dull brain is as cheap as life itself."

by Fiddlesticks on May 21, 2008 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

WAYYYYYY Under.

Absolutely no one mentioned anything to me all night, which was really disappointing.

I think it was because it was such a bizarre game – the first half was a no-hitter by Paul Byrd, and the second half was a good ol’ fashioned a** kicking.

The only comment that I heard was “THAT’S the Paul Byrd I know” when Dye hit the 3-run shot. And my brother’s girlfriend told me that my wife was going to get in a fight with “Konerko”, who was a guy sitting in front wearing a Konerko jersey. But I never did find out what that was all about.

by steincat on May 22, 2008 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs